User talk:Callanecc

Move

Hi. Can you move N. Chandrababu Naidu to Nara Chandrababu Naidu per WP:COMMONNAME? Thanks,ƬheStrikeΣagle ^sorties 08:22, 6 May 2014 (UTC)

Fine you seem to be quite busy....will get it done in some other way :) ƬheStrikeΣagle ^sorties 11:47, 11 May 2014 (UTC)

I have reverted this move. His common name does not include the expanded "Nara". See his own Twitter, for example.—indopug (talk) 04:00, 18 May 2014 (UTC)

disruptive editing??

Re this I have to wonder why you single me out, given what's been going on at WP:NCL. I'm not the one being "disruptive" there, I'm the one pointing out the disruptive attempts to block needed changes to that guideline; and now being targeted by that editor for yet more official harassment. The last ANIs against me were caused, if that's the word, by my (successful) attempts to refute disruptive behaviour by that same editor in countless RMs. Please watch where you're pointing the finger. I tire of being scapegoated in response to the high success rate of the RMs contested by that editor, and have been careful to only point out illogics and various manglings of what other people have said.Skookum1 (talk) 07:59, 8 May 2014 (UTC)

He may have just not gotten the right diff for this, but it's typical in many ways of the more subtle of his various misrepresentations: "Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: 188"m that diff being the very same one as given in the line before as No. 187. He made no attempt at all to "resolve dispute on article talk page". Generally his mispresentations and distortions and confabulations of what he claims others have said or called for are much more blatant; here it's just a technical point of "error"....like the claim that I had committed 3RR, which as you can see from that talkpage, is simply not the case. I get accused of "walls of text" as if being detailed in response to something overly simplistic or misleading were a crime, but what you will see there and at the WP:NCET talkpage are "walls of illogic"....he behaved similarly in the recent round of RMs, where he "spammed" the same post across dozens of discussions, and was similarly counter-logical in last year's RMs over St'at'imc/Ktunaxa/Secwepemc/Nlaka'pamux/Tsilhqot'in where it was also observed that he was baiting me, as well as fielding endless red herring arguments and counter-logical "ideas"....I'll save my breath; it's a long history of this kind of thing, and has wasted whole months of my time, and Wikipedia's.Skookum1 (talk) 09:23, 8 May 2014 (UTC)

You were alerted, which as the message I left you stated states that it doesn't apply misconduct on your part. I also stated at ANEW that as Kwamikagami has already been alerted you can file a request at WP:AE if you believe they have repeatedly not adhered to Wikipedia's standards of behaviour. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 01:36, 9 May 2014 (UTC)

the makings of a set of such diffs, a small part of them anyway, I added to the discussion re similar behaviour in the past, including in how NCL was changed and how NCP was lobbied, and what was said in edit comments. But given that I was put to an ANI for an interjection of much the same kind as I am replying to here, it's even more "odd" that what I am responding to completely misrepresents what I said (makes it up, actually), says I'm not talking about what everyone else is talking about when I clearly am, and also that a CANVASS has been made in very non-neutral terms, at WikiProject Languages. I realize it's not quite the same interjection as both my comments were signed and they were of different vintages (the upper one being newer than what follows, which I annotated to clarify that I am replying to Cuchullain, not Kwami, and to give context to the first phrases of that reply. Much about what is going is irregular; I see it as a filibuster; same as what was done to forestall changes at WP:NCET and also in the course of many RMs.....time, time, time, and yet I'm the one who's "not talking what anybody else is talking about" and have been roasted over the fire for speaking my mind and pointing to facts and guidelines....and having someone say to my face I've said things I didn't say; and I'm not the only one who's gotten that.Skookum1 (talk) 15:55, 10 May 2014 (UTC)

another violation-by-fabrication of something he claims I've said, which I haven't.Skookum1 (talk) 07:38, 11 May 2014 (UTC)

As I said before, if you believe there are grounds please make a request for sanctions at WP:AE so that it may be more thoroughly reviewed by other administrators. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 05:42, 13 May 2014 (UTC)

Semi protection of Brunei

Hi Callanecc, the Brunei article has become a target for vandalism recently, but given the similarity between the edits I think it's fairly likely they originate from the same person. Protecting the article indefinitely might be excessive, especially as similar restrictions are often forgotten and end up staying in place for years. Won't it be enough to protect it for a few months? Thanks--eh bien mon prince (talk) 09:54, 9 May 2014 (UTC)

There is a long term history of vandalism and disruptive edits to the article which make me believe that indefinite protection is necessary. I agree that sometimes indefinite semi protections can be forgotten, however that generally happens on lower profile pages (such as bands or musicians which are in the public spotlight and then slowly drift out but remain indef'd). If you look at the traffic stats for that article you can see that it receives a high number of views each day so it is high profile. So I believe the indef semi is warranted and that the vandalism (etc) isn't likely to slow down. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 05:46, 13 May 2014 (UTC)

ARBCC notice request

Hi Callanecc!

I am (still) picking on you for this request since you are the admin who formally notified me, in a friendly FYI sort of way, about ARBCC. Would you please do the same for John2510 (talk · contribs)? As we have discussed before, there isn't any backstory necessary before these notices can be formally sent to someone. But I'll provide a summation from my point of view anyway.

In the thread Talk:Global_warming#Continuing?, there seems to be a steadfast refusal on John's part to discuss RS content, but abundant implied and explicit references to other eds' POVs, and vague references to climate folks being "religious nuts". We have exchanged user talk comments (his page and my page) but that appears to be unproductive. I considered spending more time in user talk elaborating details, but John's response in the voice of the third person rather dashed my optimism. Thanks for reading. NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 09:31, 11 May 2014 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Callanec's been helpful to me so I've save him the job by doing this myself using the new template. Dougweller (talk) 11:54, 11 May 2014 (UTC)

Bless you, my son. NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 13:27, 11 May 2014 (UTC)

PS But waaaaiiiittt a second.... I've lost track with the ARB/DS review process and have two questions

• 1 Has the "new template" been officially activated? (I did test-administer it to myself, and of course Doug just used it so it works, but my question is about the status of our procedures and processes.)

• 2 Are we still logging notifications at the appropriate ruling page, in this case at Wikipedia:ARBCC#Notifications ? During the DS review I have participated in, there has been discussion of dispensing with that in favor of turning on some sort of new feature in the logs via tagging... (I don't have the vocab in my brain anymore so please read that for gist instead of precise summation of the proposal.)

NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 14:40, 11 May 2014 (UTC)

NewsAndEventsGuy Yes and no, see Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee/Discretionary sanctions and the template itself at Template:Ds/alert - which I presume you've seen, and the current Singpost Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Single. Dougweller (talk) 14:52, 11 May 2014 (UTC)

Thanks Doug. My question was answered by the signpost link. Although I supported the proposal during DS review, I quit paying attention and was unaware that the arbs had taken a vote, much less that it passed with 100%. That's great. NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 15:53, 11 May 2014 (UTC)

Regarding a sanction you imposed

Hello, would you please review my statement here to determine if the sanction you imposed has been transgressed?

This is an odd situation of a user who calls his imagined enemies "scoundrels" and "pisspoor bastards" in an off-wiki declaration of war, uses a sockpuppet to harass editors and inflame battleground sentiments, brings two arbitration requests and an ANI against those he perceives to be his opponents, and targets me especially with continual evidence-free attacks, all while espousing high-minded ideals on-wiki.

At the very least I would like these attacks to stop. As you know, this is a solid case of sockpuppeting (and there is even further off-site evidence confirming it), and there is no basis for Askahrc's claim of misconduct on my part for filing that SPI or any other SPI. Nonetheless we hear through Tumbleman's proxy Askahrc that Tumbleman denies the socking, and Askahrc does not understand that Tumbleman is not telling him the truth.

Had the Chopra representative not pinged me, I would not have even found Askahrc's attack on the Chopra page. There may be others, but the link to my statement should point to enough (the last arbitration request, his user page, and elsewhere). Please tell me if you need more. vzaak 08:57, 12 May 2014 (UTC)

I looked at that request and some edits around the same time and I think it's still borderline and won't likely result in a sanctions so it's still a matter of waiting until there is more serious misconduct. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 05:48, 13 May 2014 (UTC)

Since the off-site "pisspoor bastards" post, the attacks have been ongoing and completely without substance. I don't understand why my attempts at AE to stop this bullying have been ignored. He doesn't heed warnings from me, that's for sure. What can I do to stop this? vzaak 06:15, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

Can you show me some of the onwiki attacks (or if he's linked to off wiki attacks) you're referring to (or email them if you think that would be appropriate) and from there with those in mind I'll have a further look through his contribs and go from there. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 10:45, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

Here is a sample,

• Askahrc falsely claims that I called him a "liar".[1]

• "You're one thorough sneak, Vzaak."[2]

• "User:Vzaak appears to be disgruntled".[3] (No, I wasn't.)

• "Vzaak is trying to get me blocked".[4] (No, I have never said that.)

• "failed attempts since then by Vzaak to get me blocked".[5] (Again, no.)

• Askahrc has proxied blocked user Tumbleman's aspersions against me.[6][7][8][9]

• Askahrc suggests the first SPI was somehow equivocal, and falsely claims an admin told me to "stop".[10]

• Askahrc again suggests the first SPI was equivocal.[11]

• Askahrc suggests that I engaged in misconduct by filing SPIs.[12] (No admin has ever suggested this.)

• The bizarre arbitration request in which Askahrc says I harassed him because I caught him harassing users with a sockpuppet. The request is filled with falsehoods, for instance: I have never said there are "enemies", or that "anyone who has a different POV on the Sheldrake page should be blocked", or that Askahrc "needs" to be blocked, or made "barrages of blocking attempts", or violated WP:CIVIL.[13]

There is an ongoing effort, initiated from off-wiki, to discredit both me and the SPIs. None of it has any merit, or even makes much sense. The strategy, however, is exceedingly effective: create a barrage of baseless accusations. If I respond to every one, it's a WP:WALLOFTEXT that gets ignored. If I respond to a small sample, the sample gets rebutted with another barrage. Repeat. You're probably put off by the length of this comment, while there is so much more that could be listed.

Here is an example of how the process works. In the tabled AE I said: So many of Askahrc's points are not true...For instance it's not true that "the edit in question has been one of the most frequently changed on the page by nearly a dozen editors". Askahrc's response was to say "this paragraph in the lead I was referring to has been edited countless times" and to give examples like this. That is just fraud: I was talking about a particular quote -- what does a trivial punctuation edit have to do with anything? He lists other edits that didn't touch the quote in question -- again, no relevance. It reminds me Askahrc's "word for word duplicate" defense in his first SPI, which Atama called out.[14]

The lack of admin response appears to have emboldened Askahrc. A similar pattern is seen in his attack on Hipocrite: "you've been arguing pretty vehemently that I should not be allowed on WP at all".[15] That's just not true. Atama stepped in to get the statement retracted.

All that I ask is the same courtesy. Askahrc will no doubt continue the off-wiki bullying campaign (his recent off-wiki post calls me and others "dicks"), but the on-wiki bullying must stop. That means removing aspersions and balmy polemics on his talk page, and especially no more proxying aspersions from his off-wiki partner, an indef blocked user who admins called a troll. Is that too much to ask? vzaak 03:42, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Admin's Barnstar
	Especially for your work at WP:RFPP. You have made several wise decisions recently. Bearian (talk) 13:32, 13 May 2014 (UTC)

Please comment on Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)

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A question about Arbitration Requests Enforcement

Everyone is allowed to comment there? OccultZone (Talk) 16:25, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

Yes everyone can make a statement. Obviously as long as it contributes to the discussion such as adding evidence or policy/guideline which applies. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 03:39, 15 May 2014 (UTC)

Arbitration clarification request(Gun control :Gaijin42)

An arbitration amendment request(Gun control :Gaijin42), which either involved you, or in which you commented, has been archived, because the request was declined.

The original discussion can be found here. For the arbitration committee --S Philbrick(Talk) 23:36, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

WP:SPI

I was looking at some SPI cases, having just filed one and I'm puzzled by the outcomes. In this case, Ruhn950 had multiple accounts and received a one week block. I saw other editors who were found to have sock accounts who received similar blocks (1 week, 2 weeks, 1 month). But then there are many cases like Difulton where an editor receives an immediate indefinite block. When I've seen editors with these indefinite blocks for socking requesting to be unblocked, they are usually told to take the standard offer--no socking for 6-12 months and then try again. Also, editors receiving WP:DUCK blocks also usually receive indefinite blocks.

So, there is a great disparity between a one week block and, effectively, a 6-12 month block and I don't see that much different in the cases, there are two or three sock accounts, not a sockfarm. When considering how to react to a SPI that finds confirmed or likely socking, what factors influence the length of time of a block? I'm not arguing for leniency or harshness, I'm just trying to understand how SPI works. Thanks for any assistance you can offer. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 16:15, 15 May 2014 (UTC)

@Liz:, I don't think that there was anything wrong in that SPI. It was pretty obvious that one user(markdrows) had socked even after knowing about socking, so they have been indeffed. Rukn950 wasn't so aware about sock puppet guidelines. Other users didn't socked, meat puppetery is just an allegation, it is just many of the supporters of Mufaddal Saifuddin hails from a specific town. I am trying to say that it was pretty good decision. OccultZone (Talk) 19:46, 15 May 2014 (UTC)

I just read over the SPI of the cases, OccultZone, I don't know all of the details behind them or the editors. And I'm not criticizing the admins...I couldn't even tell you which admin administered which block! I'm just trying to understand the parameters that lead to one editor receiving a one week block while most editors (especially in WP:DUCK blocks) receive indefinite blocks. I'm asking several checkusers because they are the most familiar with sockpuppet cases and have the most experience. From what I've seen, it is often a different admin who comes along, determines the extent of the block and carries it out. I meant to ask this in as neutral a way as possible, I'm sorry if this didn't come across that way. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:14, 15 May 2014 (UTC)

I agree. OccultZone (Talk) 23:44, 15 May 2014 (UTC)

Please block User:Nerd in Texas

Heads up!

User:Nerd in Texas please block per WP:NOTHERE. After reviewing his history almost every edit is nonconstructive. Hosts hoax articles in his userspace. Seems like the editor is unhappy that his articles were deleted and is now trying to remove legitimate articles by improper tagging. Looks like WP:DUCK to me. Valoem ^{talk contrib} 16:40, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

Actually he moved the hoax article Gravioli into the mainspace. Valoem ^{talk contrib} 20:51, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

Nevermind, it's good, Bishonen took care of it :) Valoem ^{talk contrib} 18:51, 17 May 2014 (UTC)

Kombucha

Extend PC time? --George Ho (talk) 04:04, 18 May 2014 (UTC)

Clarify TBAN

This Arbcom enforcement action is a bit vague. How long is the TBAN? (Forever? Forever and a Day? Or something less?) Thanks. – S. Rich (talk) 06:08, 18 May 2014 (UTC)

Notification of a June AfC BackLog Drive

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Archiving locked page

Callanecc, you should revert the archive you did here. If you look at the history, I locked the page based on the edit war going on. That lock would of course apply to administrators as well short of exceptional circumstances. If you look at the effect of your archive, you'll see that what's there now makes no sense. I could revert you myself, but I'd rather you self-reverted. Thanks.--Bbb23 (talk) 22:39, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

Callanecc, I went ahead and reverted. I'm logging off soon, and it didn't look to me like you've been on-wiki for many hours. I didn't want to leave it in the state it was in, so ... Regards.--Bbb23 (talk) 01:04, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

No worries, I missed that until after I'd archived it then completely forgot to revert it. I've restored it to the main case page so that the report isn't lost in page histories. Regards, Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 10:35, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

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About Your Training program At WP:CVUA

Hello. I was wondering If you could take me in as a Trainee At WP:CVUA. Thanks! Dudel250 (talk) 03:38, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

Hi Dudel250, I've been quite bust for a while and will continue to be for at least a month or two so it would probably be best to ask one of the other trainers. If you can't find someone please feel free to let me know and I'll see what I can work out. Regards, Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 10:38, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

I would but you seem to be the only person in my time zone Dudel250 Chat PROD Log CSD Logs 01:56, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

The time zone doesn't really matter that much as you'd need to be on Wikipedia at the same time as me for it to make a difference. Also regarding your signature, there isn't really a reason to include a link to your PROD or CSD logs but rather link to them on your user page so that they don't add unnessary text to the page and make it easier to read. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 02:52, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

Good point. The Signature Is mostly because Some of the things i do needs other people to find pages that ive tagged. Mostly When i'm Doing New Page Patrol Related work. I'm Mostly Expermenting With What Works Right Now Dudel250 Chat PROD Log CSD Logs 03:12, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

I am helpless

please go through the details here [16]

Inspite of all my efforts darkness shines is getting sympathy and support. Please go through the first paragraph and last paragraph in details. i don't know where did i go wrong that administrator eatsshootsandleaves is rejecting my reference removal proof.--112.79.36.29 (talk) 14:35, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

Procedural question

You logged DS's topic ban here. I don't have a problem with that, but can't it also be logged at WP:Editing restrictions? I suppose it's not exactly imposed by the community, nor by the Committee, but, otherwise, one would have to look at all the arbitration pages to find out if a particular editor was t-banned. What do you think?--Bbb23 (talk) 23:39, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

AE actions have never been logged at WP:Editing restrictions except with the BLP special enforcement special case. I guess the main reasons would be so that the page isn't massive and that it would increase the workload of he sanctioning admin in that they need to log it at another place. It would probably need a community discussion or ArbCom asking for it because it would need the page to be changed and also change what is required of enforcing admins. I can definitely see the benefits of having a section there for AE sanctions but it does create extra work. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 03:25, 21 May 2014 (UTC)