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* Wikipedia guidelines state that, when deemed appropriate, a link to one web directory listing can be added
* Wikipedia guidelines state that, when deemed appropriate, a link to one web directory listing can be added
* the link gives additional references for the user of Wikipedia to follow up the subject and thus adds value to the article
* the link gives additional references for the user of Wikipedia to follow up the subject and thus adds value to the article
* the link can be used to clear up multiple minor links (see [[WP:WPSPAM#What_to_do_with_linkfarms]])
* as a choice of an open directory Chainki.org is more open than the other probable choice, [http://dmoz.org Dmoz], since ''anybody'' can edit the links and all work on the links is completely transparent through the wiki history and talk pages
* as a choice of an open directory Chainki.org is more open than the other probable choice, [http://dmoz.org Dmoz], since ''anybody'' can edit the links and all work on the links is completely transparent through the wiki history and talk pages
* though I am personally involved in Chainki, I am of the opinion that the external link which you have perhaps seen to Chainki is valid content, but I invite you to verify that this is the case
* though I am personally involved in Chainki, I am of the opinion that the external link which you have perhaps seen to Chainki is valid content, but I invite you to verify that this is the case
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'''Occasionally acceptable links'''<br>
'''Occasionally acceptable links'''<br>
2. Web directories: When deemed appropriate by those contributing to an article on Wikipedia, a link to one web directory listing can be added, with preference to open directories (if two are comparable and only one is open).
2. Web directories: When deemed appropriate by those contributing to an article on Wikipedia, a link to one web directory listing can be added, with preference to open directories (if two are comparable and only one is open).
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Here too is some relevant guidance from [[WP:WPSPAM#What_to_do_with_linkfarms]] which explicitly encourages the replacing of existing links to an open content directory:

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|'''What to do with linkfarms'''
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|* Wikipedia [[WP:POL|policy]] states that Wikipedia is [[WP:NOT|not a web directory]] of anything. Sometimes, the easiest and best way is replace the link farm with a reference to a web directory, such as the [[Open Directory Project]] ({{tl|dmoz}}) and the [[Yahoo! directory]] ({{tl|yahoo directory}}. For example, see my edits to [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Model_United_Nations&diff=34347584&oldid=34346987 Model United Nations] and [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Online_shopping_directory&diff=34351754&oldid=33703932 Online shopping directory]. It works!: check the date - until now, no one has added links to these two pages. --[[User:Perfecto|Perfecto]] 03:39, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
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Ouch!

The text below the photo in the article on blood blisters said it was caused by a pair of long-nosed pliers. How did you manage to do that? Scott Gall 07:42, 2005 May 29 (UTC)

It's in the history if you check it out - IKEA furniture! Though someone thought this detail was not relevant to the entry :-( and removed it. Brusselsshrek 10:26, 17 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

RFA

By your request, your RFA has been reinstated. The "snowballing" was done to protect new users from a negative pile-up, not to keep them from running (note that we have in fact lost editors because of their RFA failed). Best of luck. Yours, Radiant_>|< 10:26, 17 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Now that you've withdrawn, let me say that I look forward to supporting your next RfA, when you are ready for it. NoSeptember talk 21:35, 18 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Though since I've been through it, I've learnt so many new adminie things to "play" with, it'll be a long time before I'm back in RfA! Brusselsshrek 21:38, 18 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wiki School proposal

This is now on Wiki School

Excellent idea. Good places to start may be Category:Wikipedia maintenance, Category:WikiProjects, and Category:Wikipedia backlog. Radiant_>|< 11:21, 17 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You're very welcome. If there's anything else I can help you with, I'd be delighted to do so. James James 12:16, 17 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Am planning to start a counter copyvio unit ala CVU some time next month - this would not require admin abilities, but lots of work would be needed. Would you be interested in joining me on this one?? --Gurubrahma 17:24, 17 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You're a good person!

Saw you withdrew your RfA... Hey, it takes a fair bit of courage to decide that withdrawing is the right thing to do. Props to you and best wishes. ++Lar: t/c 21:53, 18 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Please don't let the RfA process intimidate you, and I certainly hope my vote did not discourage you. I really do think you could be a shoo-in, in time. Jonathunder 23:16, 18 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wiki School

Without wishing to sound rude, when it comes to things like wikis, I'm a fan of finding your own way rather than being drilled. Also, I believe new editors should be encouraged to contribute, rather than to concentrate on "admin-type" tasks. I'm enjoying RC patrol at the moment because I lack time, but when I have more, you'll see me contributing more content.

Does your home town have an article? Can you add anything to it? How about your school (I'm guessing you're at school, my apologies if you're not)? What about the books you've read and enjoyed? The music you listen to? Why not spend some of your time researching and writing about those things as well as trying to do adminny things? You'll pick up the other stuff in time. You don't need a formal course of study. Trust me on that. James James 23:40, 18 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No problem

If you need anymore help, give me a holler.--Max Talk (add)Contribs 00:44, 27 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wrapped text in boxes

In response to your question on the help desk, is this what you're looking for?

But what do I do if I want a really large amount of text in a box, because then I would really rather like Wikipedia to wrap the text for me? I know by starting the line with a space I asked it to ignore formating, but how do I get the effect I want?

This is done by putting the text in a table, here is the code:

{| class="toccolours" style="border: 2px solid; margin: 0 0 1em 1em; width: 100%; background-color: white;"
|-
|valign="top"|<center>But what do I do if I want a really large amount of text in a box, because then I would really rather like Wikipedia to wrap the text for me? I know by starting the line with a space I asked it to ignore formating, but how do I get the effect I want?</center> |}

Hopefully, this is what you are looking for. If this isn't what your looking for. It's good idea to ask on the help desk where a lot of expert users answer questions such as this. - Akamad 23:37, 24 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thought I'd experiment myself

But what do I do if I want a really large amount of text in a box, because then I would really rather like Wikipedia to wrap the text for me? I know by starting the line with a space I asked it to ignore formating, but how do I get the effect I want?

Brusselsshrek 23:41, 24 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Random idea on Image:Palm TX.JPG

Brusselsshrek, I saw your Image:Palm TX.JPG today...I had a thought that it would be cute if you were to replace the image with one where the site on the PDA is the Main Page or the Palm (PDA) article. Just an idea :) -- stillnotelf has a talk page 01:30, 23 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately the Wikipedia website looks like a dog's breakfast on my Palm. Brusselsshrek 22:39, 24 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

chainki.org

You may well be reading this because of an external link I have made, or propose to be made, to chainki.org. The link would be added with the following reasoning:

  • Chainki contains a large number of external links on the subject (I am not linking to Chainki when the number of external links which it contains on the subject is less than 10, and often, including links in sub-categories, the number is significantly more)
  • Wikipedia will not add many external links because it is not a repository of links
  • Wikipedia guidelines state that, when deemed appropriate, a link to one web directory listing can be added
  • the link gives additional references for the user of Wikipedia to follow up the subject and thus adds value to the article
  • the link can be used to clear up multiple minor links (see WP:WPSPAM#What_to_do_with_linkfarms)
  • as a choice of an open directory Chainki.org is more open than the other probable choice, Dmoz, since anybody can edit the links and all work on the links is completely transparent through the wiki history and talk pages
  • though I am personally involved in Chainki, I am of the opinion that the external link which you have perhaps seen to Chainki is valid content, but I invite you to verify that this is the case

You will know that Wikipedia is not a repository of links. Often, however, there are many other links about an article which would be useful but which would be too much like simply a collection of links for the subject. What to do? The guidelines say that you can link to the appropriate page on a single web directory, with preferece to open directories. One such directory is chainki.org.

I give below the guidance from Wikipedia:External links

...adding a small number of relevant external links can be a valuable service to our readers.

Occasionally acceptable links
2. Web directories: When deemed appropriate by those contributing to an article on Wikipedia, a link to one web directory listing can be added, with preference to open directories (if two are comparable and only one is open).

Here too is some relevant guidance from WP:WPSPAM#What_to_do_with_linkfarms which explicitly encourages the replacing of existing links to an open content directory:

What to do with linkfarms
* Wikipedia policy states that Wikipedia is not a web directory of anything. Sometimes, the easiest and best way is replace the link farm with a reference to a web directory, such as the Open Directory Project ({{dmoz}}) and the Yahoo! directory ({{yahoo directory}}. For example, see my edits to Model United Nations and Online shopping directory. It works!: check the date - until now, no one has added links to these two pages. --Perfecto 03:39, 16 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I declare openly that I am involved in Chainki. Nonetheless, the guidelines of self-promotion, state:

You are free to write about yourself or projects you have a strong personal involvement in. However, do remember that the standards for encyclopedic articles apply to such pages just like any other...

I therefore commend to you the external link which I have made/proposed.


I am not overly happy about the chainki.org links for the following reasons:
  • although you have stated your vested interest, you should have encouraged a neutral editor to verify the links have a good case for inclusion
  • this should should have been discussed before the event not after
  • a trial on rather fewer articles would have ben advisable - nine in one go looks to the untrained eye very much like spam.
  • the double linking of "page.chainki.org" at "www.chainki.org" looks suspiciously like undue advertising, and is not necessary.
As a next course of action, I would suggest you put your case to the people over at the talk pages of WP:EL and WP:WPSPAM, who will happily give good advice. I will leave it to your discretion to remove the links until there is a community consensus either way.
Many thanks, Aquilina 17:53, 17 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
That's fine. I have wanted to be as open as possible; I was sure sooner or later (and probably sooner rather than later) there would be a debate somewhere about this. I will post to WP:EL and WP:WPSPAM to get some sort of opinion.
Brusselsshrek 18:20, 17 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks muchly! There's been a couple of similar debates there recently. and they will hear your case out - if it's felt this site does add sometihng to the articles, it's got a good chance of being incorporated. See you around, Aquilina 18:40, 17 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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