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OH!? Please ♥ Mister Postman

That was a naruto episode... Yes the name is strange but thats kinda how kana can be. --Cat out 16:15, 8 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks again!

Thanks again for checking out my articles on a few baseball players that I felt deserved articles. I truly appreciate the encouragement! :) As far as being an admin, that's honestly something that hasn't interested me much. But I appreciate the kind words on that front as well. :) —Wknight94 (talk) 22:40, 8 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Unblocking Zzzzz

Are you sure that the person who sent you the email was Zzzz? and not the vandal. Because if your not then you've just unblocked WOW. Theresa Knott | Taste the Korn 15:37, 9 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

User:Smithy john

Hello.

I saw that you blocked this user indefinately as a "vandal-only account." However, I am somewhat confused as to why you feel that this person is beyond reform even at his/her first block. I would appreciate it if you could explain this to me. Thanks! -- Where 19:07, 9 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your quick reply :). However, I disagree with you on three counts. First of all, I still think there is a substantial chance that s/he could become a good-faith editor; look at benon. Second of all, the user does not know about the unblock template. Finally, I do not think an indefinate block for first-time vandals is consistant with the blocking policy. Please let me know what you think, and, as always, happy editing! -- Where 19:23, 9 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Good luck

Brookie here - hope the surgery is succesfull Brookie :) - a will o' the wisp ! ^(Whisper...) 20:02, 9 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hello there...

Just wanted to stop by and say that I'm thrilled that you're an admin (I'm sorry to have missed your RfA)! Best luck with your arm, and I hope that you recover fully and as soon as possible. Take care, Snoutwood (talk) 20:50, 9 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Comments at Super Bowl XL

I had a couple questions about your comments at Super Bowl XL regarding Good Article status. Could you respond? Thanks... Aplomado ^talk 22:08, 9 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Selena

I just a left a message as well: let me know if you want me to do them, but I do them manually -- I really dislike citeweb. Sandy 23:15, 9 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I need a few minutes to finish up a few other things, and then I'll do them. Sandy 23:31, 9 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I did 1, 3, 5 and 6. If you like this format, I can continue. I didn't do 2 and 4 yet, becasue I've been looking for that information from a verifiable source -- those are from a personal website, and I haven't been able to locate the content online elsewhere. Any ideas ? Let me know if I should continue, or if you prefer the old format (if so, we can revert). Sandy

I'm a little more than halfway through ... found another problem. Something is referenced to Answers.com, but Answers.com is a mirror of Wikipedia, so that's not a reference (circular reasoning). See if you can find another one for that one? Sandy 00:43, 10 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

OK, that's all I can do. Don't know what to do about 2 and 21, as they are personal websites. Good luck with it ! Sandy 01:01, 10 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, you should reference the book (and remember you must include the page number on books). Just put it inside the ref brackets, with Last name, First name. Name of book. Publisher, location, copyright date, p. number. Then, if you want people to be able to also see the online version, put it at then end in a link like [ url full-text ] Sandy 04:09, 10 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Reference 8 (Menloschool.org) should have a more "reliable" primary source, like a news source or book ... keep up the good work! Sandy 04:47, 10 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Jason Taylor

Thanks for the revision on the Taylor page. I'm definitely still feeling my way around here. Erechtheus 00:33, 10 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

armking vandal

i noticed on the recent ip block list that you are hitting the nail on top of teh head good job much on that. do you think that the armking vandal is on higher priority than the pelican shit vandal or willy on wheels?...is there any imediate danger? -Micheal Mathews 207.69.137.41 02:17, 10 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

more armking info

I know he does circular redirects, he must have a massive web ego to stand up to mods. That in my oppinon almost makes him brave however he should be using his bravery to fight vandalism not to vandalize and then be out right tenacious when banned for it. -Micheal Mathews 207.69.137.41 02:27, 10 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Jaranda and Superman Lives

You broke the three-revert rule, Don't try to ignore it, and don't cover up your mistakes by blocking another user. I'll be watching; don't let this happen again. _72.200.147.16 06:58, 10 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I never broke the 3rr rule, and I blocked you for severe WP:OWN vandalism. Jaranda ^{wat's sup} 16:07, 10 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Please look in on this again. That IP has now created an account under the name Wumbo and began the same pattern of OWN behavior that he has been blocked twice for now. – Someguy0830 (Talk | contribs) 05:52, 13 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sigh, report back to me when he breaks 3rr or makes personal attacks again and I would block him. Thanks Jaranda ^{wat's sup} 05:57, 13 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Fancy buttons rock the casbah

From my userpage's Deletion log:

23:36, 9 July 2006 Jaranda (Talk | contribs | block) deleted "User:Jeffrey O. Gustafson" (content was: '[...]' (and the only contributor was 'Rartybungle')) .

Good catch (lasted less than a minute). Thanks. --Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - <*> 16:57, 10 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Your recent vandalism to the AIV

Why dd you remove the complaint about ed g2s? He was giving both blanking warnings and asked to talk on the talk page he ignored it and proceeded to begin his war. Matthew Fenton (contribs) 21:27, 10 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It was an obvious content dispute, not vandalism, report it else where Jaranda ^{wat's sup} 21:29, 10 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

User:Luka Jačov blocking

Jaranda I think you blocked User:Luka Jačov unjustly cause his first two edits are different then from his second two. Also you should check User:Telex's blacmailing on Talk Page of Macedonia. Do acknowledge. Thank you--TheFEARgod 21:42, 10 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

quote: "if you persist in removing the Greeks from here, I will be removing any reference to Macedonians from Greece" (by User:Telex) --TheFEARgod 21:44, 10 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

3rr is any 4 non vandalism reverts and Luka Jačov has 4 similar reverts, they all involved removing greek from the aricle so that 3rr, I would look at the Telex situation. Thanks Jaranda ^{wat's sup} 21:48, 10 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, doesn't 3RR count for SAME reverts?--TheFEARgod 21:55, 10 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No from WP:3RR:

Reverting, in this context, means undoing the actions of another editor or other editors in whole or part. It does not necessarily mean taking a previous version from history and editing that. A revert may involve as little as adding or deleting a few words or even one word. Even if you are making other changes at the same time, continually undoing other editors' work counts as reverting. "Complex partial reverts" refer to reverts that remove or re-add only some of the disputed material while adding new material at the same time, which is often done in an effort to disguise the reverting. This type of edit counts toward 3RR, regardless of the editor's intention.

Luka Jačov reverts all involved removing greek from the article so that violates 3rr, as for Telex, I would give an warning. Thanks Jaranda ^{wat's sup} 22:04, 10 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, so that's what he was referring to (you can see me on the talk page enquiring into the blackmail accusation, I didn't know what he was talking about). I'm sorry he took it that way - I was making the point that the existence both minority communities is based on the same (or similar) sources, so it would be inconsistent to not mention the Greek community but only the Macedonian. What I was basically telling him that it should be either both or none - anything else is double standards. There may have been a better way of saying it though :-( --Tēlex 22:13, 10 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well he didnt know it applies for similar reverts aswell so could u be little loosen up. Thank you,--TheFEARgod 22:27, 10 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Backlog?

You recently added an admin backlog tag to Category:Protected deleted pages... but it doesn't seem like a 'work' category. The instructions on the page say to add {{deletedpage}} to pages in the category... but that template adds pages to the category. So following the instructions will never 'clear the backlog'. --CBD 23:18, 10 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Questioning Recent Deletion

Hi Jaranda, you recently speedily deleted a page that I wrote called "Rhino Mocks". I thought that it was genuinely useful, can you please tell me why you deleted it? BTW, I have no association with Rhino Mocks other than being a user. Curyous1 02:39, 11 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Lack of content, article was basiclly a instruction manual, I would undelete if you add more content. Thanks Jaranda ^{wat's sup} 02:53, 11 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

A little advice

Here is a little advice. When you block accounts, don't use anything except a standard edit summary. You're encouraging more vandalism accounts to be created by using provocative edit summaries. Chicken Wing 02:42, 11 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Umm, alot of admins do that, anyways most of my summarries are go away and stuff like that, user... is silly, block summarrys don't encourage more vandalism accounts, blocking them in anyway does. Jaranda ^{wat's sup} 02:49, 11 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I somewhat agree with Chicken Wing; while I sometimes use weird summaries just to amuse myself (my personal favourite was "blocked "Johnny NCV WOW Milkman Communism Pelican S. (contribs)" with an expiry time of indefinite (looked at me funny)"), sometimes with "sigh", "you are starting to annoy me," and blocked a JewsDidWTC account with "No they didn't, terrorists did," I wonder if you're inadvertently "feeding the trolls." CanadianCaesar Et tu, Brute? 03:53, 11 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

But I'll add, you are doing a good job blocking these guys. CanadianCaesar Et tu, Brute? 03:55, 11 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I want to add that, too. I'm not attacking you, and I think you're doing a good job of making blocks. I'm just saying that by basically talking to the vandals, that acknowledges them and gives them a reason to keep creating vandal accounts. Chicken Wing 15:45, 11 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

un-sprotect

Can you please un-sprotect Alzheimer's disease please? There have been several good IP contribs to that article. Thanks, -Ravedave 03:33, 12 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Done Jaranda ^{wat's sup} 06:16, 12 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Why exactly?

My Mad at the World entry was deleted without even enough time to contest the deletion much less properly finish the entry to show the band's merit. The user who requested the deletion in fact deleted the contestation I put there with a note claiming that I did not read the directions for the request for deletion. However, the directions clearly state that I can contest this request which will give me TIME to explain my reasons. In fact I was in the process of doing so when I found that the article had unscrupulously been deleted. Why? Cultureshocklewis 06:14, 12 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

See WP:MUSIC, band with no claim of notabilty can be deleted under A7 as well. Recreate using the WP:MUSIC guidelines Thanks Jaranda ^{wat's sup} 06:16, 12 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Kenneth Lay

Hi. I'd like to request the un-semi-protection of the above article. Seems like there hasn't been any vandalism lately and the sock-puppet attack should have ceased by now. GWS btw. _└ ^VodkaJazz / _talk ^┐ 14:53, 12 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Kent-Meridian High School

Per Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kent-Meridian High School, I just thought you'd like to know that the consensus for High School articles now appears to be swinging back in favor of deletion. So this may indicate the beginning of another campaign to remove most High School articles. Your opinion on the AfD article would be appreciated. It might be helpful if a notability standard for High Schools could be agreed upon. Thank you. — RJH (talk) 16:41, 12 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

3RR

Hello, could you review [1] again, I have added a comment. Thanks! Intangible 21:56, 12 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Zered Bassett

You commented that you were tempted to speedy delete this article, but I believe that it has improved since your original remarks were made. Please review and see if you would like to change your mind. RFerreira 00:07, 13 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Front National (France)

By coincidence I looked at the behavior of those two editors, Intangible (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log) and Tazmaniacs (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log) and decided to give them both a bit of a rest from editing. It should be okay to lift the protection now. --Tony Sidaway 00:47, 13 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

User:CAYA

I hate bringing this back to you, but I'm not sure what else to do. CAYA spent most of his 24hr block continuing his edit war on Foo Fighters using the sockpuppet LOTAFOO (talk · contribs). (The piece he's insisting on removing exists in similar form on Learn to Fly, so he's taken action there as well.) The other editors of the Foo Fighters article are pretty much at a loss as to where to go from here. Any advice you could offer would be immensely appreciated. -- ChrisB 03:22, 13 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Many thanks for your help! Would it be okay if I contact you if he returns as a sockpuppet? (I meant to ask this earlier, figuring it was inevitable, and it's already happened: diff.) -- ChrisB 18:03, 14 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Blocked pages: Fazed

Now, I don't have much ability to write pages, but I know a few people around Fazed who do. We were interested in having a wiki page, but it's a locked page. When I took a look at the deletion log, I got the feeling that many of the original entries were written by banned members of the forum. I just wanted to find out if this would be reversable, and we could get a chance to have someone with some experience in write wikipedia pages from the site do the write up for it. -- ChocolateJesus 05:25, 13 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I deleted the deletedpage tag. Try to make a better page other than the recreated nonsense. Thanks Jaranda ^{wat's sup} 05:30, 13 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Worthy use of your new admin powers

Congratulations on your recent granting of admin powers. I would like to draw your attention to a worthy use of those powers - the closing of copyvio reports listed on WP:CP. As you'll see there are many tens of such reports that need dealing with each day, and the backlog is barely being kept under control despite a couple of us spending lots of time working on them. The process is pretty easy and sorting a few only takes a little time and with a group of people helping, we can keep the backlog under control easily - just review the article & the source to ensure it is a copy, and then delete. Any help would certainly be appreciated - any questions, ask away. Kcordina ^Talk 09:03, 13 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Froggy RfA thanks

Frogs got me started, and here I am!

Samsara (talk • contribs) 17:32, 13 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Daniel Brandt

Hi Jaranda, please do not abuse your position of authority and let this be discussed. If it is the will of the people to keep this article despite what is happening with the other article, fine. I have no personal relationship to Brandt, contrary to what you may think. Hypοkrysis 21:42, 13 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Dwyane Wade

Hi. I'm wondering what my options are here. I started at topic at Talk:Dwyane Wade about the officiating controversy, but the anonymous user who makes the most edits about it hasn't discussed anything there. I even left a message at the user's talk page, and the editing continued. He contends that the information is true, which it may be, but that's not my point.

The user's edit history leads me to believe him to be from Dallas, which only strengthens my beliefs that he is not acting in good faith; also, he has not made the same effort to add this information to any other equally or more appropriate article. I don't want to be the only one who's reverting him, and I'd end up 3rr'ing constantly. At some point, does a refusal to discuss the issue turn his edits into vandalism? I mean, what should I be doing here? --Maxamegalon2000 22:13, 13 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

For unvandalising my userpage and banning that headbutting Tojo sock. JFW | T@lk 23:22, 13 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

My RfA

Hi, I would like to express my gratitude for your participation at my recent RfA. The final vote was 68/21/3 and resulted in me becoming an admin!

For those of you who supported my RfA, I highly appreciate your kind words and your trust in me. For those who opposed - many of you expressed valid concerns regarding my activity here; I will make an effort in addressing them as time goes on while at the same time using my admin tools appropriately. So, salamat, gracias, merci, ありがとう, спасибо, धन्यवाद, 多謝, agyamanak unay, شكرًا, cảm ơn, 감사합니다, mahalo, ขอบคุณครับ, go raibh maith agat, dziękuję, ευχαριστώ, Danke, תודה, mulţumesc, გმადლობთ, etc.! If you need any help, feel free to contact me.

PS: I took the company car (pictured left) out for a spin, and well... it's not quite how I pictured it. --Chris S. 23:29, 13 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Courtesy note - deletion review

New guy appears to want to contest the speedy deletion of Talifan which you deleted. As far as I can see, your deletion was a perfectly proper speedy under CSD A5 (transwiki'd articles), and the issue to debate is whether it was right to transwiki, but it's always recommended to let admins know when their speedies are contested. I've placed it on Deletion Review. David | Talk 09:46, 14 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

User:Micoolio101/Supporters in the death of OrphanBot was submitted to deletion review. FYI because you were involved in this deletion, 217.251.173.136 13:34, 15 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Barnstar.

It's Invisible!		An amazingly cool invisible barnstar.
		For your now amazingly cool invisible tumor, and in hopes that that scar will become a amazingly cool invisible scar. Or something like that. I dhunno. --Avillia ^{(Avillia me!)} 03:41, 15 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

re:AFDs

Hi please don't close delete AFDs unless your an admin, even if you placed an speedy in the article afterwards. Thanks Jaranda ^{wat's sup} 03:41, 16 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't know there was anything wrong with doing it. Check here. Alphachimp ^talk 03:42, 16 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yea but still the template db-afd is for if an admin closes an AFD as delete and forgets to delete the article. The problem with closing delete and close call AFDs is that it makes people belive that you are an admin, which you aren't. Thanks Jaranda ^{wat's sup} 03:55, 16 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Whatever. That wasn't my understanding of what it was saying...perhaps you could rewrite that section of the document to clarify. Anyway, I was just trying to help out with the backlog. I won't do that anymore. Alphachimp ^talk 04:05, 16 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Out of interest, was my decision correct? Alphachimp ^talk 04:08, 16 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

OK, so I need further clarification. Can I close this AfD? You speedily deleted the article, but did not close the afd. I've seen a bunch of non-admins, particularly User:Yanksox doing this. Alphachimp ^talk 04:47, 16 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

My RfA thanks

Hello RenamedUser jaskldjslak904, and thank you for your support at my Request for Adminship, which succeeded with an overwhelming final count of (105/2/0). I was very pleased with the outpouring of kind words from the community that has now entrusted me with these tools, from the classroom, the lesson in human psychology and the international resource known as Wikipedia. The Free Encyclopedia. Please feel free to leave me plenty of requests, monitor my actions (through the admin desk on my userpage) and, if you find yourself in the mood, listen to some of what I do in real life. In any case, keep up the great work and have a fabulous day. Grand master ka 07:39, 16 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Protection on parkinsons page

Please re-protect the PD page, GT is having a field day. I don't think it should be un-protected until his IP range is blocked. --PaulWicks 11:55, 16 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I second that. -- Netsnipe ^(Talk) 12:49, 16 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Block on wowowo

This user has contacted the unblock list seeking an unblock. Her note states:

I was blocked for some rediculous reason

"You were blocked by Jaranda for the following reason (see our blocking policy): Autoblocked because your IP address has been recently used by " Wowowo". The reason given for Wowowo's block is: "

Your username (Hank_Williams) has been blocked indefinitely because it is either inappropriate or too similar to an existing username (see our blocking policy for more information). You are encouraged to create a new account and contribute to Wikipedia under a more appropriate username, and in a constructive manner. See Wikipedia:Username for guidance on selecting an appropriate username. You may also edit Wikipedia without creating an account. You are not allowed to edit Wikipedia under an inappropriate username. If you would like to discuss the block, you may edit your talk page or email the administrator who blocked you. "

MY username is wowowo

IP is 129.25.135.115"

I assume the reason for the block is it is thought to be an abbreviation of Willy on Wheels. Could you please confirm that this is the case? I have currently got the user on defer.

Regards

Capitalistroadster 19:38, 16 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I blocked because I thought it was a possible Willy on Wheels sock. Thanks Jaranda ^{wat's sup} 19:43, 16 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Selena

I'm more than happy to lend whatever help I can offer. I've already reworked the lead a little bit, reordering some sentences and including a few more links. Also edited the discography section slightly to remove some odd line breaks. I was surprised and happy to see the Alison Krauss article used as an example for discography so soon after my working on it! Staxringold _talk^contribs 20:22, 16 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your support!

Hello Jaranda and thank you for your support and especially thank you for your expertly-crafted nomination at my Request for Adminship, which succeeded with a final tally of (67/0/0)! Please don't hesitate to let me know what I can do for you (or what I can generally do better) regarding admin-related duties or otherwise! :)

Wknight94 (Talk | contribs)

AfD

um... is there a particular reason you closed this AfD a few minutes after it was relisted? Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dafna Arad. Thanks. - CrazyRussian talk/email 02:27, 17 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I count a keep and two weak deletes, including one from Haham hanuka, who is not exactly the world's most trustworthy user. Blocked multiple times over israeli articles, and banned from he:WP. So if you would reopen it for another five days, I think it would be splendid. Thank you. - CrazyRussian talk/email 02:34, 17 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

George Aznatsoc

I am curious. Why was my work on Dr. Aznat'soc on the page "George_Aznatsoc" deleted. I just wanted to contribute a page about a man who could become a significant figure in the future. It was a work in progress. I have been looking through wikipedia's guidlines for the last few days and still dont get it. Why did you delete the page? Thanks for your concern.

Please see WP:BIO, there was no google hits for him. Thanks Jaranda ^{wat's sup} 01:20, 18 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hydnjo's response to the blocking proposal

I thank one and all - Jarandal, Antandrus, Titoxd, Xaosflux, TenOfAllTrades, mboverload, PseudoSudo, Knowledge Seeker, Haukurth, Deathphoenix, Zzyzx11, Tyrenius, Zscout370, AnnH, Rick Block, Tyrenius (again), Zscout370 (again) and NoSeptember for your support.

To Jeffrey O. Gustafson who initiated this block request I ask why? We have had no interaction until now so how do you come to this requested action at WP:AN? Did you come across my account during your own research or are you acting as a proxy for another admin/user with whom I've caused to be angry with me? In reviewing your contributions I see no such "letter of the law" before now and so I feel singled out by you and I have no clue as to why - that to me is most disturbing. If you've come to this action on your own then should I be always wary of another admin challenging the legitimacy of my account?

For TenOfAllTrades who advised me not to worry and Rick who made me laugh I give special thanks, you've helped me to not take this so personally. And to Jeff, thanks for being courteous in informing me of your action and for letting me feel that your heart wasn't for blocking me.
Except for my one explanation above, I haven't edited for a few days now so as to allow y'all to comment about this based on my history of contribution rather than my reaction to it.

I wanted to say all of this before it all goes to archive heaven. I still have a lingering concern that this may arise again and don't want to go through WP life looking over my shoulder or worrying that I might piss-off some admin and cause another inquiry about the legitimacy of my account. If any of you who have been so gracious as to take the time to support me here have any suggestions to prevent such an action, please drop your thoughts on my talk or by email.

Finally, on a personal note to all, I never ever expected so much supportive response from all of you. I know that I've been moody at times and have spoken in ways that I have regretted the next day. I hoped otherwise but it seemed that those unfortunate responses might end up being my legacy as they were the foremost in my mind. And so far as this being a "role account", I think that I'll let the descriptions of AnnH and NoSeptember (both above) stand as the most intuitive descriptions of this account. My (and our) warmest regards to all of you for your understanding and outward support for the continuation of hydnjo's user account and future contributions. Again, my delighted and humble thanks :-) --hydnjo talk 02:03, 18 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Selena

It's looking much better: but I'm troubled by a red link in the lead. Do you think you could Wikify the Tejano Music Awards, to solve that? [2] You could put up some basic info about them from that link. The prose is improved, but the referencing is still weak: for example, where's a reference for the Tom Brokaw comment? Sandy 03:17, 18 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It's better, but you've really got to go through the *entire* article and check every single statement as to whether it needs a refernce. I'm on a slow dialup connection (my house was hit by lightening), so I just can't quickly check things, but every time I look, there is still info that is not referenced. Here is one paragraph:

In 1997, Jennifer López played Selena in the film of the same name directed by Gregory Nava, which opened with mostly positive reviews^{[citation needed]} (What is meant by "mostly positive"? what were the negative? Give us some sources, so we can see these "mostly positive"). More than 12,000 people auditioned for a role in the film. [19] The film stirred controversy in the Mexican-American community,^{[citation needed]} since López is Puerto Rican and played the role of a singer of Mexican descent. But Selena's fans supported the biography,^{[citation needed]} and López's role in the film helped elevate her career.^{[citation needed]} Although López would succeed as a pop star herself a few years later, Selena's voice was dubbed in for all the songs in the movie.^{[citation needed]} For her role in the film, López was nominated for a Golden Globe award for Best Actress.[20]

That's just a sample paragraph. Remember, she's a star who was murdered young, and all kinds of legends can grow: you've got to be sure everything is sourced. How do I know Selena's fans liked the movie? How do I know it help JLo's career? Etc ... Sandy 03:55, 18 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks...same song and dance

I stated I had never edited their articles and I haven't...the nonsense about me creating a name there and also one for Ed Poor is also nonsense. I guess that this is now the second time for this and it's someone using AOL...I am pretty sure I know who it is. Thanks for your efforts.--MONGO 06:47, 18 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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 :That's just a sample paragraph.  Remember, she's a star who was murdered young, and all kinds of legends can grow:  you've got to be sure everything is sourced.  How do I know Selena's fans liked the movie?  How do I know it help JLo's career?  Etc ... [[User:SandyGeorgia|Sandy]] 03:55, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
+== Thanks...same song and dance ==
+I stated I had never edited their articles and I haven't...the nonsense about me creating a name there and also one for Ed Poor is also nonsense. I guess that this is now the second time for this and it's someone using AOL...I am pretty sure I know who it is. Thanks for your efforts.--[[User:MONGO|MONGO]] 06:47, 18 July 2006 (UTC)