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*Let us have a quick look at the major admin actions. |
*Let us have a quick look at the major admin actions. |
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**Blocked for 72 hours for making 1 revert in 5 days. {{U|Swarm}} had blocked 3 more editors for making 1-2 reverts in last 3 days, even after accepting that everyone was reverting an obvious sock |
**Blocked for 72 hours for making 1 revert in 5 days. {{U|Swarm}} had blocked 3 more editors for making 1-2 reverts in last 3 days, even after accepting that everyone was reverting an obvious sock.[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/3RRArchive276#User:TCKTKtool_reported_by_User:Padenton_.28Result:_5_users_blocked.29] It was so quick, that he even went back to change the block settings, systematically it counts 2 blocks.[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=block&user=Swarm&page=User%3AOccultZone&year=&month=-1&tagfilter=] 3 blocks including mine were overturned. |
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:::UTP before the block.[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:OccultZone&diff=prev&oldid=653080049](someone else was reported) |
:::UTP before the block.[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:OccultZone&diff=prev&oldid=653080049](someone else was reported) |
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:*Blocked for 24 hours, for having a finally stale edit war on IP sock talk page, with 100% guarantee that no revert is going to take place.([https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:72.196.235.154&diff=654061887&oldid=654057485 diff]) {{U|Bgwhite}} was [[WP:INVOLVED]],[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Rape_in_India&diff=653227359&oldid=653226477][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rape_in_India&diff=653232070&oldid=653220102][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Rape_in_India&diff=653266384&oldid=653257524] who also {{blue|protected article where he was involved}}, not just once but twice,[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rape_in_India&diff=653996980&oldid=653996938][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rape_in_India&diff=654007498&oldid=654007439] after reverting to his version[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rape_in_India&diff=653996938&oldid=653994024][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rape_in_India&diff=654007439&oldid=654005687] and misrepresented the edits as "vandalism", though they were not.[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rape_in_India&diff=654005687&oldid=654001381] All that happened in 16 hours.([https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:OccultZone#Further_examination discussion]) Block was overturned by {{U|Diannaa}}. |
:*Blocked for 24 hours, for having a finally stale edit war on IP sock talk page, with 100% guarantee that no revert is going to take place.([https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:72.196.235.154&diff=654061887&oldid=654057485 diff]) {{U|Bgwhite}} was [[WP:INVOLVED]],[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Rape_in_India&diff=653227359&oldid=653226477][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rape_in_India&diff=653232070&oldid=653220102][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Rape_in_India&diff=653266384&oldid=653257524] who also {{blue|protected article where he was involved}}, not just once but twice,[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rape_in_India&diff=653996980&oldid=653996938][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rape_in_India&diff=654007498&oldid=654007439] after reverting to his version[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rape_in_India&diff=653996938&oldid=653994024][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rape_in_India&diff=654007439&oldid=654005687] and misrepresented the edits as "vandalism", though they were not.[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rape_in_India&diff=654005687&oldid=654001381] All that happened in 16 hours.([https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:OccultZone#Further_examination discussion]) Block was overturned by {{U|Diannaa}}. |
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Yes I have always adhered to the [[WP:FIVE]] pillars of en.wiki. I can be convicenced otherwise if I hadn't. Had someone asked me only once? I would do what they wanted and especially after having such a history, it was obvious that I was always capable of handling any of the matters. Question arises, why they never tried any alternative measures? Or they didn't tried because there was no justifiable reason for their admin actions at first? We will see. [[User:OccultZone|'''<span style="color:DarkBlue;">Occult</span><span style="color:blue;">Zone</span>''']] <small>([[User talk:OccultZone#Top|Talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/OccultZone|Contributions]] • [[Special:Log/OccultZone|Log]])</small> 08:32, 23 April 2015 (UTC) |
Yes I have always adhered to the [[WP:FIVE]] pillars of en.wiki. I can be convicenced otherwise if I hadn't. Had someone asked me only once? I would do what they wanted and especially after having such a history, it was obvious that I was always capable of handling any of the matters. Question arises, why they never tried any alternative measures? Or they didn't tried because there was no justifiable reason for their admin actions at first? We will see. [[User:OccultZone|'''<span style="color:DarkBlue;">Occult</span><span style="color:blue;">Zone</span>''']] <small>([[User talk:OccultZone#Top|Talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/OccultZone|Contributions]] • [[Special:Log/OccultZone|Log]])</small> 08:32, 23 April 2015 (UTC) |
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:@<u>Worm</u>: It is a requirement to ask an oversighter first, if they cannot, then one can go for Arbcom, I had contacted them for oversighting the block right away and they said no because summary was not truly libelous and they said that they see how and why you were blocked, they disregard "unwarranted" blocks. Nonetheless, I knew that this block is going to make sound. |
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:Furthermore, you talk about "18 admins/checkusers" without diffs? Weren't they 12 last time[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:OccultZone&diff=657500765&oldid=657496682] according to you and you had refused to prove it? That's the point. [[User:OccultZone|'''<span style="color:DarkBlue;">Occult</span><span style="color:blue;">Zone</span>''']] <small>([[User talk:OccultZone#Top|Talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/OccultZone|Contributions]] • [[Special:Log/OccultZone|Log]])</small> 09:10, 23 April 2015 (UTC) |
:Furthermore, you talk about "18 admins/checkusers" without diffs? Weren't they 12 last time[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:OccultZone&diff=657500765&oldid=657496682] according to you and you had refused to prove it? That's the point. [[User:OccultZone|'''<span style="color:DarkBlue;">Occult</span><span style="color:blue;">Zone</span>''']] <small>([[User talk:OccultZone#Top|Talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/OccultZone|Contributions]] • [[Special:Log/OccultZone|Log]])</small> 09:10, 23 April 2015 (UTC) |
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Review of admin actions
Initiated by OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) at 08:32, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
Involved parties
- OccultZone (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log), filing party
- Swarm (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA)
- Bgwhite (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA)
- Worm That Turned (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA)
- HJ Mitchell (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA)
- Nakon (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA)
- Confirmation that all parties are aware of the request
- Confirmation that other steps in dispute resolution have been tried
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Statement by OccultZone
I think I have done a mistake by not addressing the problems when they started to appear. I thought of letting it go and concentrate elsewhere, but now it has become necessary to address each.
We can know the background. One minute before my first block on 23 March 2015, I had over 186,000 edits, there was no prior warning or notice for edit warring, incivility, copyvio, and other offenses since the day I had joined en.wiki.
- Let us have a quick look at the major admin actions.
- Blocked for 72 hours for making 1 revert in 5 days. Swarm had blocked 3 more editors for making 1-2 reverts in last 3 days, even after accepting that everyone was reverting an obvious sock.[1] It was so quick, that he even went back to change the block settings, systematically it counts 2 blocks.[2] 3 blocks including mine were overturned.
- UTP before the block.[3](someone else was reported)
- Blocked for 24 hours, for having a finally stale edit war on IP sock talk page, with 100% guarantee that no revert is going to take place.(diff) Bgwhite was WP:INVOLVED,[4][5][6] who also protected article where he was involved, not just once but twice,[7][8] after reverting to his version[9][10] and misrepresented the edits as "vandalism", though they were not.[11] All that happened in 16 hours.(discussion) Block was overturned by Diannaa.
- UTP prior to the block.[12]
- Topic ban, where WP:ABAN could be the choice, and there was not even a single disruptive edit from me. Upon numerous examinations, T-BAN was removed. (discussion)
- Blocked 72 hours for "not dropping stick". While WP:STICK is a different essay, WP:DR is the policy. Even that essay is failing to justify the reason since there was no trace that I was pursuing the previous matter at all. Neither anyone had reported. Block was overturned by Magog the Ogre
- UTP prior to the block.[13]
- Reinstating previous block without any discussion, thus engaging in wheel warring. Block was made[14] for making this edit, though it was never discussed or pointed ever before, it was irrelevant to the previous block.
- UTP before.[15]
Clearly, all of these actions contravene the policy, they are non-policy based. Not even a single discussion was made before blocking for the given rationale, none of the block bears any resemblance to previous block per their rationale. Upon close analysis, I question if I even deserved a 'warning', blocking was just far.
After Nakon's block, Worm That Turned started to discuss his proposal to topic ban me from all administrator boards and requesting admin actions.[16] I asked WTT to supply diffs of the behaviour that would be applicable for a topic ban, and he never provided any.[17] Furthermore WTT has told that "needful is to up your block to "indefinite" for escalating the situation again. I'm very tempted to".[18]
Not only I have remembered, but I have also found that such objectionable actions, undertaken by the named parties are not limited with what I have mentioned above. More can be found elsewhere, and they vary from wikihounding, incivility, false accusations, misrepresentation of diffs, blocks, protections, etc.
Yes I have always adhered to the WP:FIVE pillars of en.wiki. I can be convicenced otherwise if I hadn't. Had someone asked me only once? I would do what they wanted and especially after having such a history, it was obvious that I was always capable of handling any of the matters. Question arises, why they never tried any alternative measures? Or they didn't tried because there was no justifiable reason for their admin actions at first? We will see. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 08:32, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
- @Worm: It is a requirement to ask an oversighter first, if they cannot, then one can go for Arbcom, I had contacted them for oversighting the block right away and they said no because summary was not truly libelous and they said that they see how and why you were blocked, they disregard "unwarranted" blocks. Nonetheless, I knew that this block is going to make sound.
- Furthermore, you talk about "18 admins/checkusers" without diffs? Weren't they 12 last time[19] according to you and you had refused to prove it? That's the point. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 09:10, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
Statement by Swarm
Statement by Bgwhite
Statement by Worm That Turned
OccultZone appears to be in full meltdown and has been for a month or so. I honestly believe the best thing for him would be to take a break from the encyclopedia until such time that he can return to his standard gnoming work. I've suggested a three month break from drama, but unfortunately he's chosen this path. I would recommend a declining this case.
For the record - OccultZone has spent a lot of time off-wiki adminshopping over the period - there are 18 admins/checkusers that I am aware of at the moment who have been brought in, largely contacted off-wiki. I myself was contacted by OccultZone with a request to oversight his first block.
Don't get me wrong, there have been failings - but none that rise to the level of an arbcom case. WormTT(talk) 09:01, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
Statement by HJ Mitchell
Statement by Nakon
Statement by {Non-party}
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