User talk:Dawnseeker2000

edit-warring

As a long-term editor you should know far better than to start edit-warring, as you have at 1989 Newcastle earthquake. You should know to follow WP:BRD and discuss on the article's talk page. You shouldn't simply revert to your preferred version if another editor objects to your edits. It's up to you to establish consensus for the change and, while discussion is in progress the status quo reigns. Given how clear, and widely accepted the Bold-revert-discuss cycle is, it's rather hypocritical of you to leave edit summaries like this, telling others not to do exactly what you're doing yourself. --AussieLegend (✉) 14:28, 4 August 2014 (UTC)

Using an uninviting user-generated map when a USGS version is available is a poor decision. Tango/two. Dawnseeker2000 15:46, 4 August 2014 (UTC)

P.S. (for AussieLegend or anyoone else driving by)

Well, like I said, I was in a hurry because I was off to work. I didn't want to leave without saying something and one way to do that was to use the edit summary. I really didn't want to get into a discussion on the talk page, because there would be some never-ending take it out/leave it in back and forth battle, and I'm just not good at that. What I am good at is improving earthquake articles, and I found a rather glaring flaw in the homebrew isoseismal map in the 1989 Newcastle earthquake article. I did wind up posting to the talk page (more than 24 hours later) with a statement on why the image is not good for WP or the article, and with the same message about not wanting to go back and forth about it. I don't have the energy to do that. Next time, just save the previous page instead of using the revert button (which can come off as being rude) especially on an established editor. Thank you (no reply necessary) Dawnseeker2000 00:53, 7 August 2014 (UTC)

P.S.S (for anyone interested in mischief on WP)

Well, I just noticed something odd about our little back and forth deal on 1989 Newcastle earthquake the other day. Was ready to dust myself off and resume my other activities here, but had a look at the edit history on that article and noticed an editor that reverted my last edit there. It looks to be a WP:SPA that was created during our little edit war (a few minutes prior to their one and only edit). I doubt we'll see any more of Editor35714 (talk · contribs). Sure doesn't smell good. Dawnseeker2000 01:15, 7 August 2014 (UTC)

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Earthquake Prediction

Dawnseeker2000, I saw your Talk comment at Earthquake Prediction (EP) and, in response, I had a look at some of the earthquake articles you've been editing. I haven't looked at all of them, but those that I've seen are very nice -- for example, the Armenian Earthquake article. As you probably know, the EP article needs attention, or at least several editors (including me) believe that it needs attention. At the same time, there is also some substantial resistance from other corner to making pretty much any change of the EP article. I'm somewhat new to Wikipedia, and so I'm learning to navigate some of these issues of collaboration and disagreement. Of course, I understand that it is the content (and style) that counts, not the expertise of the editors contributing the content (and style). So, on that basis, seeing the earthquake articles on which you've been working, I wonder if you might consider devoting some energy to the EP article. Let me just say that the subject is controversial, which makes it interesting for an Wikieditor, and it is important, which makes it interesting for a Wikieditor. What do you think? Sincerely, DoctorTerrella (talk) 13:11, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

1975 Haicheng earthquake

The 1975 Haicheng earthquake figures prominently in earthquake prediction. While I understand that you might not want to weigh in on Earthquake Prediction page, your attention to the 1975 Haicheng earthquake would be appreciated. What do you think? Thanks, DoctorTerrella (talk) 13:37, 21 August 2014 (UTC)

IPCC

Hi, thx for your help. I have split the paragraph in two, as I believe Grundmanns research with Max Planck is a great achievement and the comparision of the IPCC activities with the Ozone layer problem of general interest . Serten (talk) 18:12, 22 August 2014 (UTC)

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Hey, thanks for creating the new template for earthquakes in the United States.

I like the idea, and I noticed you were adding it to several articles. It's a good idea in my opinion. Thanks. Dustin (talk) 20:18, 14 September 2014 (UTC)

What's strange is that I hadn't noticed that we were lacking the template for events in the United States until just this weekend. Thanks, Dawnseeker2000

Tsunami

I saw you started a sort of cleanup, and fully agree with the need for that. I however have restored the one and only book so far and put together the human triggered tsunamis resepctively speculations about these. I hope thats OK and in line with your intention. Cheers Serten (talk) 03:02, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

Yes, thanks for consolidating the bomb stuff. I hadn't seen that. I posted on the talk page also, and like I said there, I removed the book entry again. I just think that's out of reach for most readers, and I really don't think the authors will want their complete papers available on Google Books for free. Also, I don't think the bulk of our readers are looking for that kind of material. Thanks for checking in, Dawnseeker2000 03:05, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

Youre welcome. I would prefer people looked up the social science issues more and less the tekkie ghibberish, so I am sort of contradicting you in a single aspect. That said, go ahead with the good work, Novit enim Dominus qui sunt eius ;) Serten (talk) 03:21, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

Right, so we have the external links that will be available for everyone, and the further reading items that will be available to the small number of readers that have access to a library that would host that kind of material. All good, thanks. Dawnseeker2000 03:52, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

Maybe its a privilege to live in southern Germany. I would have no problem to get the books within one hours driving - even biking :) Serten (talk) 10:05, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

Replacement

I usually try to notify users when I either upload over their files (enhancements and whatnot) or create a new version, and I meant to bring up that I replaced your file with an SVG: File:1989 Newcastle earthquake ShakeMap.svg. Dustin (talk) 16:34, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

Also, since you seem to be a significant earthquake editor, I thought I would say, I am capable of converting some ShakeMaps to SVGs, so I'd like to know what you think. There is only about one other actual earthquake editor I know of to be active apart from you though, which is why I am just bringing this up here. Dustin (talk) 16:39, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

Yes, good change. Thanks for that, and I think it's fine to do more of the same. Dawnseeker2000 16:50, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

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Thanks for reporting this IP address in Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism. I was trying to dig into this IP's hostname in Robtex at https://www.robtex.com/, and found out that this IP was blacklisted in the Composite Blocking List blacklist. I then looked in there and found that it was infected with Conficker. I reasoned that since this machine was turned into a Conficker zombie computer, it could also be a patsy for other malware including possibly being hacked to being a zombie proxy. I have placed a check request at Wikipedia:WikiProject on open proxies so that it can be confirmed. If it is confirmed, I believe that it will then be escalated to being blocked an all Wikimedia sites. Jesse Viviano (talk) 17:40, 5 November 2014 (UTC)

I was just getting to work and pulled out my phone for a quick watchlist check, and that's the only reason I stumbled across this. Thanks for the update and for your help on this, Dawnseeker2000 18:28, 5 November 2014 (UTC)

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Mount Pinatubo crater lake depth

Good day. I would like to know why the change about the depth of mt. Pinatubo crater lake has been reverted? The average depth of 100 meters can be verified by both scientific sources and offical sources (capas, tarlac and botolan, zambales). Thank you. Volcanolover2014 (talk) 08:05, 18 November 2014 (UTC)

Escalation of user warnings

Hi, I see that you served three escalating warnings in five minutes to the same user. The first warning was justified; but the next two were not, because that user had not edited since your first warning - in fact, not for over 100 minutes before that. See WP:VAND#How to warn vandalizing users "A new warning generally should not escalate from a previous warning unless a user received the previous warning and failed to heed it." The second and third warnings were for edits to Wikipedia:Namespace (which they had not edited for 5 days) and Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring (which they had not edited for 18 days). --Redrose64 (talk) 11:54, 25 November 2014 (UTC)

That user is not here to help and needed a final warning, so I supplied it. We don't have time around here for that kind of crap. They're not an editor, they're either a vandal or incompetent. Dawnseeker2000 14:43, 25 November 2014 (UTC)

You could have gone straight to {{subst:uw-vandalism4im}}. --Redrose64 (talk) 15:10, 25 November 2014 (UTC)

OK, thanks, but a lot of the time I like (in this fast paced environment) to leave individual notices that serve to help anyone else following along. I don't really enjoy this part of WP, but leaving an alternate record of events (other than contribs) for an admin (or anyone else) seems to be a good idea. About four years ago it was suggested that I do it this way. Thanks for stopping in. Dawnseeker2000 15:39, 25 November 2014 (UTC)

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Wikipedia study- Thank you

Hello Dawnseeker2000, I hope you remember speaking to me in the summer of 2012 about your motivations for contributing to the health-related pages on Wikipedia. The great news is that the study got published this Wednesday in JMIR (Journal of Medical Internet Research). You can read it here: http://www.jmir.org/2014/12/e260 This would not have been possible without your contributions so once again, I would like to thank you for taking the time and sharing your experiences with me. I also wrote an entry about my own experience with the study, about additional observations and how I plan to further extend my research - published in the WMF blog today: https://blog.wikimedia.org.uk/2014/12/who-writes-wikipedias-health-and-medical-pages-and-why/If you have any comments or questions please get in touch.Perhaps see you at the next Wikimania conference in Mexico! Best Wishes Hydra Rain (talk) 21:12, 7 December 2014 (UTC)

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71.113.158.16 and final warning

Hello, just thought I would stop by and let you know that I saw 71.113.158.16 (talk · contribs)'s fourth edit and issued a level 3 warning after that for his third edit which was reverted by another IP, but no warning was issued for that one. Since he hasn't edited since the third warning, technically he should not receive a level 4. Additionally, the fourth edit was benign, merely removing a space. I leave it up to you, whether you want to remove the warning or not; it's not a huge issue either way. Just thought I would clarify what happened. Thanks --RacerX¹¹ Talk to me^{Stalk me} 01:07, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

I did look at each of their edits and saw that the last one was for the space removal. That's not malicious of course, but it's a taunt as well, so my message was "that's it, enough". Thanks, Dawnseeker2000 01:09, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

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I just saw you're already doing so. Thanks. Huon (talk) 20:25, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

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Hi, fine if that's the way that article is done, and I'll exclude running AWB on that article in the future, but unless there's a way to prevent AWB from making changes to the article, anyone else that makes an AWB pass with it will probably make the same change. Thanks for letting me know, Dawnseeker2000 18:55, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

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Earthquakes in Germany

Did you look at the talk page before you moved this to List of earthquakes in Germany? There was repeated relevant discussion, because the scope of the article is to explain the seismicity of the country as well as to list individual earthquakes, and it is not an exhaustive list. It wasn't moved before because those involved in editing it didn't seem to feel the "List" title was appropriate. Yngvadottir (talk) 20:20, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

I did not, and may not had I seen that, but I think the standardization of our earthquake article titles is fine. Dawnseeker2000 20:24, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

I'm going to move it back and start another talk page section on the issue, then. I'll leave it to you to notify the relevant wikiprojects. Yngvadottir (talk) 20:51, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

That doesn't sound like a good idea. You're going to argue over the words "list of"? A number of our earthquake lists include some discussion of the seismicity in general and are not always "pure" lists. It makes sense to use a standardized name. Dawnseeker2000 20:53, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

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A question

Hello Dawnseeker, I have a question for you (absolutely no criticism, an honest question). I looked at your edit to Sleep and noticed that you, more than once, reversed the order of two refs where they appear side-by-side. Is there a reason or a rule for which of two refs should come first? (I'm watching this page.) Regards, Hordaland (talk) 14:14, 12 April 2015 (UTC)

Sure, hello and good morning. For the most part I use AWB to do general fixes, and this includes ordering references. If it finds consecutive refs that are not in numerical order it will highlight that as a proposed change. There has to be a typo in the article for the program to (also) notify about these situations, but when it comes up I allow it to make the change. Dawnseeker2000 14:25, 12 April 2015 (UTC)

Thanks and good evening! (It's 19:28 here :) ) Learn something new every day. I've never used AWB and will study it; thanks for link. --Hordaland (talk) 17:28, 12 April 2015 (UTC)

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Some baklava for you!

Thanks for your immediate edit on "2015 Nepal earthquake" page, regarding the typo I pointed out. Thanks!!! Akshay.C.S (talk) 18:16, 25 April 2015 (UTC)

Earthquakes

Sorry to bother you, but who apart from you actively edits earthquake-related articles? I was trying to come up with a new way to organize information and sections on an earthquake swarm draft I have been working on (the organization is currently really bad in my opinion), but I can't seem to find anyone (apart from you) to ask for advice, but if possible, I don't want to have to bother you every time I have an earthquake-related question. Dustin (talk) 00:15, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

Well, Mikenorton is the guru, but I don't know of anyone else that's currently active. There used to be at least one other editor around, and sometimes more. But no worries, I can give you what I think about the draft. I've looked at it a couple of times since you started it, and at them moment it says what it should; I mean, it's complete. It's chronological, and I think you could stick with that strategy, but it would be nice to somehow break it up into other readable chunks. What are the other aspects of what's going on there? Human-related activities. If there's a way to pull whatever material is present into a new section or sections on the different takes on those aspect(s) that would be key. You're bounded by what the sources are saying, and how they say it.

Is there any one person or group that has a strong opinion on the matter? Sometimes sources focus on one person's perspective. You could compare perspectives, if there are any, in their own sections. Bah, I'm not saying anything you don't already know. The articles that I've done show that it really comes down to what the sources are, how they say what they say, and how they compliment each other. If those things come together then usually the article has good structure and continuity. Sorry, rambling now. Dawnseeker2000 00:45, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

I appreciate the response! I don't know how active WP:Peer review is, but I was thinking that I might go there to see what should be trimmed and where I should expand (but in a specific suggestion by suggestion way so I can publish this draft and get it to C class). They aren't as specialized though, so I thought I'd try to get some input from a specialized editor. I'll try to work drawing some of the information out into more specialized sections (causes, other research) and try to make sure that, in the chronological part, that information is organized by what the relevant time period is rather than only by the order in which information is published (sorry if that statement is hard to understand because of bad wording). Again, thanks for the suggestions. Dustin (talk) 01:00, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

I forgot to mention that before I can move this draft to mainspace, I am currently using a special infobox which I created for swarms since {{Infobox earthquake}} did not seem sufficient. I don't think I am allowed to transclude pages from userspace in mainspace, but I don't think this would be a great idea to have as a separate template from {{Infobox earthquake}} in template namespace considering that it would only really be of use on very few pages. Do you have any ideas there? Thanks. Dustin (talk) 01:16, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

Well first, I should say that I don't really review a lot of good articles. I like to create, but am not as good at reviewing other people's work. So peer review might be OK, but just make sure you've exhausted all possible sources to get a feel for every possible aspect to it. This is kind of different from what I normally do, since it's usually the same types of subheadings that come up for the different earthquake articles. Also, there is probably some existing article that covers at least some of what you're writing about right? There are some sources in your article that mention fracking but I didn't see any of the terms linked. We do have a number of articles on hydraulic fracturing. Are those going to be of use in the article. That would open up a whole new set of possible sections.

Shouldn't we consider modifying the existing infobox earthquake to include fields that are specific to swarms? There really could be some major improvement to the couple of swarm articles that we have, and could open up possibilities for more to be created. I am working on List of earthquakes in California and have found that the Imperial Valley has had intermittent swarms. Don't know if they're article worthy, but just saying that there's lots of events that could be considered if it were easier or more appealing. I know nothing of modifying infoboxes so we'd have to ping someone in that area for some help. I actually don't even know who made our infobox. Dawnseeker2000 01:33, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

Would you care if I created Category:Intraplate earthquakes? Thanks. Dustin (talk) 21:35, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

We might not ever have a need for that kind of categorization. The reason I say that is that I think we already have problems with the wrong categories being applied (Category:Megathrust earthquakes). That one alone will take some time to clean up. A similar issue would exist with interplate vs intraplate. What if it's a "plate marginal" event? Plate boundaries are much broader than they were once considered. In my way of thinking, I imagine the maintenance aspect of that kind of thing. Don't let me stop you though, those are just my thoughts. There was a proposal for, and you may have seen this, a structured category system for eq magnitude. What went through my mind at the time was an amplification of the back and forth editing that we have now (especially after the Nepal EQ) with editors blindly modifying the figures with no source and no edit summary. Total chaos. But again, that's my (pessimistic) view what might happen and the extra cleanup work that might result from it. I could very well be wrong. Dawnseeker2000 22:55, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

Bring it up at the talk page on WP Earthquakes for some other opinions :) Dawnseeker2000 23:08, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

Re Many thanks

Hello DAWNSEEKER2000. Not a problem in doing the work for this great site. I enjoy doing the articles. I saw that previously there was a big gap in the years from 2005 backwards so my aim is to get caught up. I will work hard over the coming weeks to get as much progress done as possible. I have been following earthquakes for a good number of years now and think they are a fascinating natural phenomenon. In Scotland we dont get very many and I certainly dont recall ever feeling anything. Obviously in light of the recent tragic events in Nepal they can create great destruction and death. Unfortunately that is nature and it was here long before us. Thanks for getting in touch and take care. Matt EK 87 21:09, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

"all of our earthquake articles follow this style"

Why is that? Was there a Wikipedia community discussion resulting in a consensus that the site-wide guideline doesn't apply to earthquake articles? Also, why did you undo the rest of my copyediting as well? —David Levy 01:31, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

Feel free to restore the remainder of your edit. Dawnseeker2000 01:33, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

Please answer my first two questions. —David Levy 01:35, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

OK, the event is being called the 2015 Nepal earthquake, so we bold it, just like the ~800 other earthquake articles that we have. Dawnseeker2000 01:36, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

Did you read the guideline and the related essay? "2015 Nepal earthquake" is a sensible description, just as Amish school shooting and April 2014 Abuja bombing are sensible descriptions of the respective articles' subjects. A description isn't the same as a formal or widely accepted designation.

Google News is showing 90 times more hits for "earthquake in Nepal" than for "2015 Nepal earthquake". Does that mean that we should add "earthquake in Nepal" (and every other descriptive phrase we find among reliable sources) to the lead?

Your citation of the other ~800 earthquake articles is an "other stuff exists" argument. (Maybe someone used the same justification when we had 50, 100 or 200 earthquake articles.)

Perhaps many of those articles' leads are formatted incorrectly. Or do you assert that literally every earthquake with an article in the English Wikipedia has one or more widely accepted names (as opposed to descriptions)? I don't doubt that some do, but all of them?

Until recently, several thousand articles about bird species contained title-case formatting of their subjects' common names throughout (page title, bolded mention in lead, and all other instances). For example, instead of "blue jay", was had "Blue Jay". Obviously, this didn't constitute a binding precedent (because that isn't how Wikipedia works). Certainly, the changeover required a great deal of time and effort. Modifying the leads of several hundred earthquake articles would be a far less daunting task. —David Levy 02:09, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

I think we have a handful of articles that aren't bolded because they're not major events and aren't covered by the media or by scientists (and no title given). For the most part, our articles are about large to great earthquakes that have been reported by the media and seismologists. That makes it easy for us to follow the name that's given. The same is going to be the case here, though we'll need to wait months to years for the scientists to publish their work. The boldtitle statement says to bold the accepted name and that's what we're doing. Dawnseeker2000 02:18, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

Unquestionably, numerous reliable sources have used the phrase "2015 Nepal earthquake". But as noted above, the same is true of other descriptive phrases. How has it been determined that this one is the accepted name? Realistically, how can such a thing even exist so soon? —David Levy 02:34, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

It's reasonable to use this name for now. We need to wait for the journal articles, at which time the article could go through a rewrite. It's expected that the seismologists will either use this name or one that reflects the nearest geological feature. Dawnseeker2000 02:38, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

If "2015 Nepal earthquake" is not yet the accepted name (and might not become the accepted name in the future), why is it appropriate to present it as such? Why not simply wait for the seismologists to settle on an actual name and then add it to the lead? In the meantime, what's the benefit of including a placeholder (which misleads readers and does nothing to enhance their understanding of the article's subject)?

How is that consistent with the aforementioned guideline? (To be clear, I regard "because the policy/guideline says so" as one of the weakest arguments that a Wikipedia editor can make. I'm citing the guideline not to claim that we must follow it for the sake of following it, but to convey the underlying reasons for its existence.) —David Levy 03:02, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

I don't know where you're going with this. It's fine. Have a great night. Dawnseeker2000 03:04, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

You don't understand my concerns, so you're curtly dismissing them? —David Levy 03:23, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

I'm trying to relax right now, and this isn't helping. Yes, I'm dismissing your concern. Goodnight, Dawnseeker2000 03:25, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

Understood. Good night. —David Levy 03:26, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

1992 Landers Quake edits

Hi

I just edited https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1992_Landers_earthquake and the edit has been moved, I assume for asthertic, layout consistency reasons.

When using the Wikipedia app most pages a have a beautiful representative image as a banner.(Note web users do not see this banner.)

For example the Big Bear Quake has the shakemap as the banner image: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1992_Big_Bear_earthquake

The Landers Quake also has a banner but instead of a topic-relevant shakemap it has a map of California that doesnt even show the epicenter location. (Once again, this is not about the web page layout)

I wanted to make the banner image be the relevant image, not something that appears to be unrelated.

Please let me know if this issue should be brought up as a wikipedia app "bug" that the only way to create the banner is to violate some other best practice.

Thanks

Ollie — Preceding unsigned comment added by OllieG-wiki (talk • contribs) 04:22, 10 May 2015 (UTC)

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Bruce Bolt

Thank you for merging the two articles on Bruce A. Bolt. Unfortunately, in doing so, you dropped the middle initial from his name. Bolt consistently used his middle initial "A." in his publications, it is in the name of the medal named in his honor, etc. Other sources refer to his full middle name.

A person's name is important. When merging two articles, the survivor should be the one with the more appropriate name (title) under Wikipedia's name guidelines, not which one was first. Because you did that, I now have to persuade an administrator to move the article back just to restore his initial.

How did you go about merging the content? Did you retain all the valid content and sources from both articles? Or, did you just make the Bruce A. Bolt article a redirect to Bruce Bolt.—Finell 05:06, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

You can look at the history of both articles to look at what they were beforehand. I think the merge went OK. Both articles were not too large at the time, and I think I retained the best of both. I don't think this should be an issue. Just use the process at WP:RM and we should be good. Dawnseeker2000 05:11, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

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2011 Tōhoku earthquake and tsunami

I'll spare you the standard template, but it sure looks from here like you're engaged in an edit war. Dwpaul ^Talk 02:54, 28 May 2015 (UTC)

Yes, thanks for the reminder. Dawnseeker2000 03:05, 28 May 2015 (UTC)

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Autopatrolled

Hi Dawnseeker2000, I just wanted to let you know that I have added the "autopatrolled" permission to your account, as you have created numerous, valid articles. This feature will have no effect on your editing, and is simply intended to reduce the workload on new page patrollers. For more information on the patroller right, see Wikipedia:Autopatrolled. Feel free to leave me a message if you have any questions. Happy editing! Beeblebrox (talk) 20:36, 2 June 2015 (UTC)

Thanks, and have a great day, Dawnseeker2000 20:38, 2 June 2015 (UTC)

Bantul earthquake

I took quite a strong interest in this in my early days as wp editor as I did my post grad fieldwork ( a few years before) at a place that more or less got destroyed by it - the 'Yogyakarta' thing is a constant problem on wp en- the range of ways that international or non local reporting and web sites that interplay Indonesia/Java/Yogyakarta to the point of severe annoyance is under-statement - then when Bantul enters, most geographically challenged need larger reference points - Indonesia, then Java, then central java etc. Keep up with the earthquake editing - it looks great - User:JarrahTree 01:15, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

Thanks, I hope to finish the article this year. I bought a book from Amazon that has a number of papers included, so I have plenty of sources for it, but just ran out of energy with all the writing. It's been bugging me that it's incomplete, and ideally I'd like to have it finished sometime this summer, with recognized content in mind. Dawnseeker2000 01:29, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

Warnings of 2602:30A:C07E:24B0:1C2A:D6D3:E15:8C8E

That IP did not make any edits between your first and second warnings, so why did you post two warnings? I'm not trying to be bothersome or anything, but I just thought I should ask. Thank you. Dustin (talk) 16:16, 6 June 2015 (UTC)

They made five vandalistic edits. I warned them twice. That's a fairly good deal for them, I think. Most admins will not block without numerous warnings so I usually leave plenty for them. I do it this way because an administrator advised me to. Dawnseeker2000 16:19, 6 June 2015 (UTC)

Okay. Thank you for your response. Dustin (talk) 16:27, 6 June 2015 (UTC)

1979 Bali earthquake

Hello, I was just wondering why there's a difference between the NGDC and ShakeMap magnitude measurements for the earthquake. The former gives an Ms of 6.5 but the latter gives a M (maybe Mw?) of 6.3. --Inoffensive dinosaw (talk) 20:50, 13 June 2015 (UTC)

There are always going to be a large variety of values for magnitude, coordinates, and intensity (especially for well-studied events). Just imagine all the scientists around the world that are using different equipment and different techniques. Each person's work is going to result in slightly different figures. Also, it would be preferable to use moment magnitude where possible across our articles for consistency. Dawnseeker2000 21:02, 13 June 2015 (UTC)

North Solomon Islands

The categories refer to (1) the 1885 creation of a German protectorate (which you kept); (2) the 1893 creation of a British protectorate on the other part of the islands; and (3/4) the 1900 treaty changing the area from the German New Guinea to the British Solomon Islands protectorates. If you wanted to keep something, the 1568 "discovery" by the Spanish makes more sense that the German creation of a protectorate while ignoring the British creation and the treaty itself. We can move this to the article talk page if you prefer. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 05:48, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

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I'm not planning on undoing your change or anything, but why exactly is the word "massive" not encyclopedic? Dustin (talk) 17:28, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

Dustin, I don't feel like it's necessary to respond to this question. Dawnseeker2000 17:30, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

I understand words like "big", but at least in this context, your words hold no value if you do not explain them! I myself would not use the word "massive" because it can be associated with mass, but that is not a reason for it to be called unencyclopedic. Dustin (talk) 17:41, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

OK, I read a lot of literature about earthquakes and scientists do not use those kinds of terms when describing them. Neither should we. Using a word like "massive" seems a bit juvenile and uninformed. If we're to use a set of words to describe shocks there are a set of words that are used for the different ranges:

• 5.0–5.9 Moderate
• 6.0–6.9 Large
• 7.0–7.9 Very Large
• ≥8.0 Great

Dawnseeker2000 17:47, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

Coming late to this debate, the term "giant earthquake" does get used for Mw9+. See this paper page 353. Other scientists use it to mean close to M9, including earthquakes like the 2010 Maule event in Chile (M8.8). However, a Google Scholar search shows quite a lot of usage for the M9+ meaning, so I think that you can add that to the upper part of the range. Mikenorton (talk) 18:56, 9 August 2015 (UTC)

Roger that. I've seen it used as well, recently even, probably on the 2004 Sumatra–Andaman earthquake. Thanks for pointing that out. This came up because I just want to avoid us using terms you might hear/read in the media. In general, I really want to avoid overstating the effects of earthquakes. On a side note, I saw Chris Goldfinger's talk here in Portland in February, but missed Thorne Lay's presentation while he was in town a couple of weeks ago. Dagnabit, saw the video on YouTube though. Dawnseeker2000 20:32, 9 August 2015 (UTC)

Here's another take on the naming, going from Moderate as you have it above, then Strong for 6-6.9 and Major for 7-7.9, I've certainly heard that being used, but it's tough to find anything definitive. However, they're all good descriptive terms that we can use. Mikenorton (talk) 21:51, 9 August 2015 (UTC)

Definitely on board with those standard descriptions (that have the right tone). Thanks for the link, Dawnseeker2000 05:35, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

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Vandalizing Wikipedia:User pages

I didn't (or, at the very least, not intentionally). Also, as you can see, I reverted them immediately. You should have seen that, coming here twenty minutes after I reverted them. My short and incomplete explanation was that it was an accident after a silly test which I didn't intend to publish, but if you'd like to know more, I can explain further. (By the way, I requested for my user page to be deleted after I had done the very same thing to it, because I would have preferred if it didn't show up in the edit history). Regardless, I apologize for the inconvenience. Encyclopedia Lu (talk) 00:24, 20 August 2015 (UTC)

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What do you mean? Encyclopedia Lu (talk) 18:30, 20 August 2015 (UTC)

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Hi, Dawnseeker2000. Two quick questions: Would you put the 847 Damascus earthquake in the Classic era or the Middle ages; and what is the cut-off date between the two? Reasons for asking: I wrote the article a while back as the 847 Antioch earthquake, when {{Earthquakes in Turkey}} had lots of redlinks (all blue now :) , and mikenorton moved it to its current name per the talk. I recently noticed that it now has a {{Earthquakes in the Levant}} template, in which the 847 event isn't included. So... where should it go? A number of articles tend to point towards the 5th-6th centuries as the start of the post-classical age, so does the 749 Galilee earthquake also belong in the Middle ages? :>MinorProphet (talk) 05:22, 24 September 2015 (UTC)

Hi MinorProphet, that is a good question. Those are really old events. Any uncertainty that I've had usually revolves around the geographical scope of the Levant, and whether to include an earthquake based on its location. I'm not all that up to speed on those old periods, but Greyshark09 set them up on the template. Maybe they'd be a good place to ask? Good luck, Dawnseeker2000 14:14, 24 September 2015 (UTC)

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Lists of earthquakes

Hi. Thanks for your feedback on the ongoing work I am doing with the earthquake lists. I will admit that as the number of events has increased over the years the time to complete each article is getting longer also. I tend to just work with the information I find in relation to all events above the magnitude 6.0+ barrier. I would agree that a lot of them (particularly events in the mid ocean ridges) are not noteworthy and I don't imagine there would have been much media interest when they occured.

Going forward to help increase my productivity Ill stick to the ones affecting the more populated areas. I understand that in particularly active years for earthquakes the lists probably look quite cluttered. With that in mind I appreciate that for the reader of the articles interest would wane somewhat as they work their way down the page.

I enjoy helping to collate this information and will continue in the coming weeks to get good progress made towards eventual completion.

All the best. Matt.

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I know how to spell Mississipi, but it is somewhat difficult how and where I have to stop. Thank you very much. --Fev 22:43, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

All good :) I probably would have misspelled it. Dawnseeker2000 01:06, 2 December 2015 (UTC)

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Indian Ocean Earthquake and Tsunami

Re: reverting my edit on Dec. 30th:

While I agree that substituting another synonym for the word "earthquake" would be useful here, I still strongly believe that introduction needs to be changed; it sounds very strange to introduce a topic with nothing other than the time at which it occurred and not a more general introductory statement - especially one that includes the magnitude, considering it was the third most powerful earthquake ever recorded.

Bomb319 (talk) 02:33, 31 December 2015 (UTC)

You're absolutely right. The introduction does not make the reader aware of the significance of the event right away. I have a method that I use on other earthquake articles, but haven't applied it to this one. Dawnseeker2000 02:39, 31 December 2015 (UTC)

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Elisa Lam reverts

I'd like to thank you for not just this edit but some of the other reverts you have made on that page as well, which I put a lot of effort into getting as right as I could and thus needs careful watching.

Actually, I think I know what the IP is doing: confusing, or perhaps trying to suggest, that the article link to the Japanese original of that film (as it does in the body) instead of the American remake. Or that we clarify that in the text. Daniel Case (talk) 19:14, 9 January 2016 (UTC)

OK Gotcha, I didn't think it was helpful to have the ref say one thing and the article another, but also left the door open by inviting the IP to make their case. Have a great weekend, Dawnseeker2000 19:38, 9 January 2016 (UTC)

The ref used actually explicitly mentions the 2005 film, which is, I think, because more people are familiar with it. Daniel Case (talk) 21:44, 9 January 2016 (UTC)

Yes, because it's mentioned in the ref is why I restored it. :) Dawnseeker2000 21:47, 9 January 2016 (UTC)

Oh, sorry, I thought you were referring to the way it was before the IP edited. Sorry. Daniel Case (talk) 04:31, 10 January 2016 (UTC)

Comma after "therefore"

Hi:

Can you tell me why Wikipedia insists that every instance of the word "therefore" be followed by a comma? I'm looking at the edits you made to the Parabola article last night. In British English, this comma is not considered necessary nor even generally desirable, unless the punctuation of the surrounding sentence demands it.

DOwenWilliams (talk) 19:39, 9 January 2016 (UTC)

I don't actually know if the reasons for what are considered "typos" are published. In the cases that I've let AWB make the change, it seemed appropriate, but hadn't considered different styles of English. If my change needs to be reverted for style or other reasons, please do. Dawnseeker2000 19:43, 9 January 2016 (UTC)

It's not worth reverting. but I do feel that AWB and other bots should be told not to make changes without the approval of a human, and the humans should be aware of the variations that exist in English. It's somewhat insulting for an editor to write something perfectly correctly. and then to be "corrected" by some mindless bot. Many articles say "use British English", but many people do not know what British English is. Using spellings such as "colour" and "centre" does not make English British. Compared with American usage, British punctuation is often different. For example, semicolons are hardly ever used. Oh well.... Enough said. DOwenWilliams (talk) 00:26, 10 January 2016 (UTC)

No, no. I'm glad you made the distinction. I would have never known otherwise :) I'll take your words into consideration when doing AWB runs. Dawnseeker2000 00:31, 10 January 2016 (UTC)

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Thank you

Thank you. I think. Was that for what I said at EP? Or .. maybe for what I didn't say?! ~ J. Johnson (JJ) (talk) 00:57, 23 January 2016 (UTC)

That was for being the steady voice of reason in that debate (and other areas of WP) and for being funny. Dawnseeker2000 01:08, 23 January 2016 (UTC)

Not that I am often accused of being a steady voice of reason (that's so tedious!), but I figure a little amusement lightens the chores. Thanks again. And thanks for being steadily on top of lot of drive trashing. It's always reassuring to see you in the history. ~ J. Johnson (JJ) (talk) 21:20, 23 January 2016 (UTC)

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Hello, Dawnseeker2000. Thank you for acknowledging my contributions to Wikipedia. I have enjoyed my input for the last two years and will continue to work hard to create and improve the earthquake articles. I have not progressed beyond 1956 for now because I have went back to the beginning and reviewed my work to date. The USGS has been kind enough to change the links and magnitudes of virtually all of the events on the lists. Updating this has been the focus of the last few weeks for me. Im also weeding out the events which are not significant enough to have been placed on the lists. Eventually once caught up I will start using the Mercalli scale for events as you have been encouraging for the 2016 list. I like that idea as I feel that this highlights the importance of sticking to the noteworthy events and not putting on ones which were remote. Matt EK 87 (talk) 21:28, 27 January 2016 (UTC)

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Meanwhile

A comma after meanwhile in not required by MOS, not is it necessarily standard Canadian English. In US usage it is optional, and in the sentence in question it is unnecessary to meaning. If it is added, it breaks the flow of the sentence. I do not plan to get into an edit war over this but would appreciate it if you would revert your addition. Dankarl (talk) 03:23, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

Hello Dankarl, I was recently made aware of the various usage of commas with the different varieties of English, so my follow up edit only removed the unnecessary space at the top of the page and the capital "A" in "See also". In other words, I didn't revert you. I hadn't heard of "comma splash" before, but I left the comma as it was. Dawnseeker2000 03:56, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

Sorry, jumped the gun there. Comma splash was what my 10th-grade English teacher called it; I do not know if it is widely used.

Best, Dankarl (talk) 03:31, 10 February 2016 (UTC)

Uiju county

On the Uiju County page you removed the bit on the earthquake that happened there, saying it's non-notable. However, if that was the largest quake on the Korean peninsula since such records have been kept, I'd think that would definitely be notable... 2Q (talk) 13:36, 14 February 2016 (UTC)

Hi, the period that Korean records have been kept is very short. That's why the event is not notable. Thanks, Dawnseeker2000 16:26, 14 February 2016 (UTC)

Not sure I understand the logic there, but alright. I am, after all, someone who thought an earthquake was a train going by, and rolled over and went back to sleep... :) Out of curiosity, how long a time would records need to be kept to make something like this notable? I mean, I'm sure Libya doesn't keep snowfall records, would then a flurry in Tripoli not be notable? Genuinely just curious - I don't really care enough either way to make an argument about it! 2Q (talk) 07:16, 15 February 2016 (UTC)

The notability claim on this event is "It is the largest earthquake by magnitude recorded in the Korean Peninsula since South Korea began official earthquake observation in 1978". Thirty-eight years ago is a speck in time. Organizations in other countries were actively monitoring shocks in the late 19th and early 20th centuries, and details of larger events are available that go much farther back than that. Dawnseeker2000 15:28, 15 February 2016 (UTC)

2005 Hindu Kush earthquake

I am sorry but I was unaware that I violated anything on the style guideline? I was solely just adding information and more links to the topic in order to complete an assignment for my Honors Natural Disturbances and Society class. Cchap23 (talk) 03:13, 1 March 2016 (UTC)cchap23

Hi @Dawnseeker2000: I want to acknowledge that I am aware of many of my students editing earthquake articles and there being some WP policy issues. To minimize frustration, I am addressing these issues in my class. I appreciate you highlighting where editing improvements are needed and directing the students to appropriate resources. I would be happy to discuss how we can work as a team to improve earthquake stub articles and provide students with constructive, but kind feedback. @Cchap23: the assignment is not to just put content on an article, but to also consider what is needed. If there is a component that does not fit, then we should discuss other options directly. The ideas is to improve the overall information. All together, we must work toward contributing to the knowledge, while keeping true to the WP publishing procedures. Let's chat about components that were not applicable to this particular article. BCarmichael (talk) 20:41, 13 March 2016 (UTC)

Seismic source

Hello Dawnseeker2000,

Thank you for your comments, I have polished the references provided by adding reference to the page in the Encyclopedic Dictionary where the concept or matter is explained. Also have relocated a few ones as to be more specific on which specific s of the article link to each portion of the reference. Hope this solves and answers your question. Regards Uruk — Preceding unsigned comment added by Uruk (talk • contribs) 06:50, 1 March 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for checking in, Dawnseeker2000 18:42, 1 March 2016 (UTC)

RE:1929 Grand Banks earthquake

Thank you for pointing that out to me. Cheers Kyle1278 ^{(talk) (Ctb) (log)} 15:54, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

Arabian_Plate

Thank you for your advice: much appreciated by this apprentice. ABZebra (talk) 00:08, 25 March 2016 (UTC)

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Edit summary

I noticed you made this edit which made two changes to he Optical Landing article and identified them as "typos" in the edit summary. However, neither of these changes were typo corrections. Please try to avoid misleading edit summaries. - Nick Thorne ^talk 01:51, 28 March 2016 (UTC)

I don't think it's a problem, but this is how we got here. What I do sometimes is set up an AWB run to replace redirects with their targets, but also let it make general fixes while doing that. Sometimes there aren't a lot of typos to fix, so while working on a page, I also take the time to do fix up the "See also" sections by replacing redirects with their targets and alphabetizing. If there's not a typo when I do that, then I just leave the default edit summary. On some (saved) runs I've got an edit summary that states what I'm doing (alpha & replace redirects) but I just didn't take the time to set that up this time. Sorry. Looks like there were less than 20 edits that had the default summary.

Again, really surprised that this was taken as a big deal. I also support the use of edit summaries, and I (often) remind people to use them, but my efforts around here never involve misleading other editors. Dawnseeker2000 03:49, 28 March 2016 (UTC)

I wouldn't call it a big deal, but I have had a bit of trouble with vandals using misleading edit summaries. In this case I was pretty sure what had happened was more or less what you said because the edit summary included the fact that AWB was used to make the edit. Nevertheless, I feel it is important to maintain appropriate edit summaries and if you don't have time to set them up for a particular run, then maybe you don't have time to do the run and it would be better to wait until you do. I don't want to make a Federal case about this, so I'm not going to comment further unless you ask me to. Happy editing. - Nick Thorne ^talk 06:19, 28 March 2016 (UTC)

Hi Nick Thorne. I'm Dawnseeker2000, and I am an active contributor here. Yes, I have seen vandals do the same, but you knew that that wasn't the case here. The time it takes to set up an edit summary in AWB is the same as in a browser, a few seconds, and it is worth leaving accurate edit summaries. I didnt do it for a tiny fraction of the total AWB edits that I make (that's about all I'm doing these days) and you caught me. And I agree, we shouldn't make a federal case about this either, but it's too late :)

See you around, Dawnseeker2000 06:46, 28 March 2016 (UTC)

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Hello! I edited a page recently and I got a message from you that my edits were revoked because they were unconstructive. I was really confused because I put a new disaster in that was deadlier than some on the list. I did research and the Tohuku Tsunami of 3/11/11 was more deadlier than 5 of the disasters. Can you please explain this to me?? Thanks!

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2012 Northern Italy earthquakes

My apologies for jumping into the middle of your edit stream; I didn't notice the "in use" template until after I'd saved my edit. ► Bgpaulus (WORDS & DEEDS) ◄ 23:01, 2 April 2016 (UTC)

All good, thank you! Dawnseeker2000 23:06, 2 April 2016 (UTC)

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Epsom

I do not suppose you know when or why the map on the Epsom article was deleted? Kind regards, EnigmaMcmxc (talk) 23:41, 3 April 2016 (UTC)

No, just what I found when double-checking that it was actually deleted (File:Epsom map.jpg). From July 6, 2014, it says "F7: Violates non-free content criterion #1". Dawnseeker2000 23:45, 3 April 2016 (UTC)

Ouch, that far back huh! Oh well, thanks for the info. Regards, EnigmaMcmxc (talk) 00:06, 4 April 2016 (UTC)

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Thanks, and sorry about the hard time with the vandal. If you hang in there, that will eventually go away, and you can experience some of the nicer aspects of WP :) Dawnseeker2000 01:59, 4 April 2016 (UTC)

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dear Dawnseeker2000 I used about 1:20 seconds of your song on youtube in this episode : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rn5sVKCi2pU to make a trailer for the previous episode I want to know if i can have your anti copyright permission

I have not used the entire song ! but is just 1 minute this minute ... youtube for copyright warned me and I want to remove that warning . I still do not earn money from youtube .. if i can do something to remove that warning .. i dont know.... I can write what do you want in description ...Notify me please .. mail: alexleul1998@gmail.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.26.10.211 (talk) 05:14, 12 April 2016 (UTC)

Revamping Talk Pages on Wikipedia

Hi Dawnseeker2000,

I'm a student at American University currently enrolled in a class about Wikipedia. I'm working with another student on a project to get input from Wikipedia users about talk pages and their usefulness as they currently stand. We believe they are difficult to use, track of and are not easy to follow. If you could make any improvements to Wikipedia talk pages overall, 1) Would you? 2) Why or why not? and 3) What would those improvements be?

Thanks, Spienciak (talk) 23:47, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

I think they're functional, but I don't really put much thought into these kinds of things. The interface is not really my focus, but I'm sure there will be some incremental changes to it as time progresses. I'm probably not the right person to ask, but I don't doubt that you'll get plenty of proper responses. Dawnseeker2000 03:50, 19 April 2016 (UTC)

1960 Valdivia earthquake

Wait it is not standard to include the type of Earthquake in lead? That does not make any sense megathrusts are the only type of quakes which can hit 9.0 Mw I think that is important, also you left the word "was most powerful" it still "is" the most powerful. Valoem ^{talk contrib} 03:37, 19 April 2016 (UTC)

Woops, I was working from my phone and didn't see that you'd changed that bit. I totally left the type in. Just moved it down to the second paragraph in the lead. Dawnseeker2000 03:42, 19 April 2016 (UTC)

I reworded again without repeating earthquake, do we have an FA quake article to reference, I think the type of earthquake should be important enough to be mentioned in the lead. Valoem ^{talk contrib} 03:51, 19 April 2016 (UTC)

I'm using this article 2011 Tōhoku earthquake and tsunami as a reference point since we don't have an FA? Valoem ^{talk contrib} 03:55, 19 April 2016 (UTC)

It necessary to include it, but saying "and earthquake was an earthquake" just does not read well and looks like an amateur wrote it. You'd never see that kind of writing in a book or journal article. Please feel free to give it another go. Hold on, let me look at the Japan article. Sorry, two edit conflicts. Dawnseeker2000 03:56, 19 April 2016 (UTC)

OK, please don't use that one as a template. That lead needs a rewrite. Dawnseeker2000 03:57, 19 April 2016 (UTC)

It is actually proper English to mention earthquake twice since 1960 Valdivia earthquake is a WP:PROPERNAME for example if a person's last name is Musician and he is a musician we could say John Musician is a musician. Valoem ^{talk contrib} 03:58, 19 April 2016 (UTC)

Valoem, it's nice to chat with you. I know I've seen your username around for quite a while. I've had a long Monday and I need to go start winding down. I apologize for undoing your last edit, but I feel strongly about that type of wording. Just a little while ago, I made and edit that might shed some more light on the subject. See the edit and edit summary on this change. Dawnseeker2000 04:00, 19 April 2016 (UTC)

2014 Peru Earthquake

Thank you for your help, I have cited my reference for the information added and rephrased the information in my own words. However, I am working as part of a class Wikipedia assignment and ask that you please refrain from removing the content I added. Thank you in advance. Jdauph2 (talk) 18:10, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

We can't accept copyrighted material. We also can't accept close paraphrasing. Thanks for your understanding. Dawnseeker2000 18:12, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

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Replay:April 2016

Thank you for using the talk page about the discussion of using Minor edits, about the edits I marked as minor is this edit that involves only a removal of empty field I added earlier, whereas edits that involved adding new content that required resource were not marked as minor edit edit, the only thing that was missing as it seems is adding a more precise summery instead of just point where is the section I edited, thank your for pointing that out for me. 967Bytes (Contact) 18:02, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

Re California earthquake forecast links

Why do want to avoid a redirect? As I thought I had previously explained, having all these other articles link to California earthquake forecast, and having that redirect to UCERF3, means that a single edit would suffice to update all these other articles when UCERF4 comes out. Less work, and less chance that some obscure link gets overlooked. And there are cases where a link to "UCERF3" should not be changed when UCERF4 comes out. Also, "UCERF" is not something most readers will understand, while "California earthquake forecast" is something they will. Are you really sure these changes are good? ~ J. Johnson (JJ) (talk) 21:30, 11 May 2016 (UTC)

I do read your talk posts (I even link to them) but it may have been a while back, and I became distracted with a need for something to do and applied my one size fits all approach. And yes, I'd thought about the familiarity factor, but dismissed that due to the speed with which we can soon know what that link is–just a click a away kind of thing. Well, I think I also hosed the talk page move: Talk:UCERF2 → Talk:UCERF3. Sigh, let me go through the redirects tonight; there's not many of them. Dawnseeker2000 00:40, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

Okay, arrange for a fresh sticky-bun with my coffee in the morning and I'll let you off easy. :-)

BTW, have you noticed that the UCERF3 sources include a list of Calif. earthquakes? I've wondered if that would be of interest to you. ~ J. Johnson (JJ) (talk) 22:08, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

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My adjustment of article "100,000-year problem"

Dear Sir or Madam:

 You mention that I did not supply a comment for my edit, but I did supply a comment.  

I can see it when I click on the "View History" tab for that article.

    Respectfully,
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Thanks Richard, I'm not sure how you made your comment look like a subheading, but thanks for pointing that out. Dawnseeker2000 22:39, 22 May 2016 (UTC)

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Magnitude template

It's coming together. It's still pretty messy, and in flux, but check User:J. Johnson/M/doc Template:M for a sense of where I'm going. ~ J. Johnson (JJ) (talk) 18:54, 4 June 2016 (UTC)

And I have been just charging along! Even works now. Bunch more work to do, including a close re-read of the sources. ~ J. Johnson (JJ) (talk) 23:07, 4 June 2016 (UTC)

Right on, I appreciated the work there. I occasionally re-read my work and find that I've used different styles here and there, so this should help. Dawnseeker2000 21:03, 5 June 2016 (UTC)

I hope so! Try it out in a bunch of places, let me know if you have any suggestions. I'll run it by the earthquake group soon, but only if you think it's good enough. :-)

I have to rework the table a bit. And go through all my sources to document everything. Not that anyone working on earthquakes would quibble about such stuff, but in a month I'll probably have forgotten where it all came from. And while I'm hot I want to augment seismic scales to explain some of those scales. ~ J. Johnson (JJ) (talk) 23:19, 5 June 2016 (UTC)

Wow, you are just charging along! (All power to AWB?) It did occur to me that trying to add an article to a category that doesn't yet exist might be "interesting", but, passing up that experience, I finished creating them. (I may add some text explaining them.) I don't think you hit any of those (mainly "??" and "R"?); let me know if you see any anomalies. I still have to sort out the table, but the template itself should be fairly stable in respect of the options listed. ~ J. Johnson (JJ) (talk) 22:22, 6 June 2016 (UTC)

Well, your work is looking pretty monumental. I'd say I've been easing into it; that first run with the lists seemed to be a quick way to get my feet wet. What I'm really liking are the categories. We'll have to see whether or not this gets adopted to any great magnitude, but if it does, at least that tool will be there that will help those that can clarify any erroneous usage. That would totally rely on newbies placing the right initial template though. They may be hesitant to do that, and instead, I think they may be more likely to place the template that they think is correct. Regardless of all that, this is a massive step forward. Dawnseeker2000 01:21, 8 June 2016 (UTC)

Yeah, the closer I get to it the more monumental it looks. (I've gotten nearly enough material to re-write seismic scales.) And still pretty messy. I am hoping to shape up the table and documentation so that simple cases are handled plainly and simply, with the categories indicating the appropriate degree of precision, and the more technical cases are a pretty straight forward lookup. The latter, however, is still a challenge. So back to work. ~ J. Johnson (JJ) (talk) 18:01, 8 June 2016 (UTC)

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Rfc?

Perhaps you might add your view to the Rfc at Talk:Earthquake_prediction#RfC re neutrality/POV issues? ~ J. Johnson (JJ) (talk) 23:06, 9 July 2016 (UTC)

JJ, I wish I had a better answer than this, but my activities on WP are not what they used to be and things IRL are rather unsettled here. Dawnseeker2000 17:49, 16 July 2016 (UTC)

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Minor edits

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Links to redirects are not broken

I have reverted some of your edits in which you have systematically changed links, apparently for no other reason than the link pointed to a redirect, sometimes to the detriment of the article text. I see your history shows over a thousand edits with similar descriptions. AWB users are required to abide by wikipedia guidelines; that includes WP:NOTBROKEN. Burninthruthesky (talk) 10:58, 7 October 2016 (UTC)

I think it's preferable to have the current article's title as what is shown to the reader and that's why I've been taking on that task. Dawnseeker2000 13:45, 7 October 2016 (UTC)

Ok. Have a look at what the guideline says: "Some editors are tempted, upon finding a link to a redirect page, to bypass the redirect and point the link directly at the target page. While there are a limited number of cases where this is beneficial, there is otherwise no good reason to pipe links solely to avoid redirects. Doing so is generally an unhelpful, time-wasting exercise that can actually be detrimental." I suggest you review WP:NOTBROKEN and WP:AWB#Rules of use before continuing with any further AWB edits. Burninthruthesky (talk) 14:56, 7 October 2016 (UTC)

I'm not piping links. The hundreds of edits that I've made are improvements, ans for the few instances when there's a special reason that another link is preferred, just restore it.

It isn't just about adding pipes to links. In some cases you are making detrimental changes to visible text. In others you are making edits that would be truly inconsequential, were it not for unjustified changes to to the text. I see you have already been warned above about making minor edits.

No matter how justified you may think these edits are, the onus is on you to get consensus for them, otherwise you risk losing your AWB privilege. Burninthruthesky (talk) 16:30, 7 October 2016 (UTC)

I mean no disrespect, but if you'd just relax, you would see that you misread the post about someone asking me to use the minor edits check box. I think that that system is misused and abused so I did not respond or comply with that request. As far as the unjustified claim; that's your opinion. I've made a ton of improvements to our articles, and if you come across another situation that I've changed that isn't preferred, just correct it.

Also, that I'm disagreeing with you on certain aspects of this doesn't mean I'm ignoring what you're saying altogether. I have sometimes pressed the save button with a question mark about whether that it might be challenged as inconsequential, so thanks for mentioning that. The work that I'm doing (hundreds of edits for sure, and probably over a thousand) is helping the reader, and a few instances where I've made a change to a link that was set a certain way doesn't constitute a reason to start talking about taking privileges away. We're on the same team with the same goals in mind. Dawnseeker2000 17:22, 7 October 2016 (UTC)

You were asked to mark minor edits as minor. I imagine that might be tricky, since "inconsequential" edits are forbidden by the AWB policy. Reviewing unnecessary edits consumes editor time. Even if they are not considered harmful enough to revert, there is real loss of information caused by systematically homogenising links to align with current titles. It is potentially useful to have a record of how many articles are linking to a redirect.

The change I described above as "unjustified" has removed an item from Special:WhatLinksHere/List_of_airliners and there is no reason on record for that removal. Your edit summary said, "Avoid redirects, replaced: List of airliners → List of civil aircraft using"; our guidelines say, "There is usually nothing wrong with linking to redirects to articles." It is therefore not a justification to say you made the edit to "Avoid redirects".

I've no doubt you are trying to help, and I'm not passing judgement on the majority of your edits. Do you now understand why removing links to redirects can damage the encyclopedia? Burninthruthesky (talk) 21:18, 7 October 2016 (UTC)

Reported to WP:ANI#Dawnseeker2000 AWB edits. Burninthruthesky (talk) 07:00, 9 October 2016 (UTC)

Editor of the week [8 October 2016]

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I nominate Dawnseeker2000 (talk · contribs · count · logs) to be Editor of the Week for his tireless efforts against vandalism and all the minor cleanup edits he does for numerous articles. Moreover, he writes excellent articles on earthquakes. I had the pleasure of interacting with him through a GA review, and I truly appreciate his polite and humble attitude. Indeed, he deserves this award.

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Thanks again for your efforts! Kevin (aka L235 · t · c) 03:12, 9 October 2016 (UTC)

Congratulations. Thanks for all you do and for the way you do it. Buster Seven Talk 13:27, 9 October 2016 (UTC)

Due to some major life stressors, I've been on autopilot these last couple of months with WP and have only been able to manage semi-automated editing and vandalism patrol, but maybe one day I can get back to content creation. That's what I really enjoy. Thank you Sainsf for this surprise. Dawnseeker2000 03:17, 11 October 2016 (UTC)

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1989 Malawi earthquake

Thanks for your clean-up work, earthquakes are a bit of a new area for me on Wikipedia. Re this, I actually didn't see your previous edit and just assumed I'd left that part out :). My first impression was that M_w isn't a completely intuitive abbreviation of "moment magnitude", so I thought I'd play it safe and make it clear what was being abbreviated. But if there's any ambiguity with that or it goes against the usual standard for earthquakes, feel free to revert. IgnorantArmies (talk) 17:25, 22 October 2016 (UTC)

It's not intuitive, but it's preferable keep the redundancy to a minimum since the acronym is linked by default to the Moment magnitude scale article in every earthquake article via {{Infobox earthquake}}. Good work with the expansion. Hope this one improves your score in the destubathon. Dawnseeker2000 17:33, 22 October 2016 (UTC)

re: Valdivia earthquake

Hello, I saw that you commented after my edit. I wanted to tell you that I tried to restore the vandalised page, but somehow I didn't manage to, and shortly after another user successfully restored it. I am not an expert user of Wikipedia. It was the person before me who wanted to vandalise Wikipedia. Regards, F. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:82.61.226.249&oldid=747343271&diff=cur — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.61.226.249 (talk) 11:25, 2 November 2016 (UTC)

List of earthquakes in Italy

If you had taken a second to actually browse through the edit history of that article, you would have seen that the indirectS mistake was done by a previous user, and I just attempted to edit the article afterwards, updating a casualty toll and fixing the typo. For some reason the latter was not properly corrected, and it remained with the additional S. I would appreciate it if before you go on a passive-aggressive rant, you take the time to actually double-check what you are talking about, and to whom. Skycycle (talk) 14:53, 7 November 2016 (UTC)

Hi and happy Monday. It was not directed at you. Those people with less than OK English know who they are. Sorry for the confusion. Dawnseeker2000 15:01, 7 November 2016 (UTC)

Edit queries.

Hi. I am glad you understand that i am new to making changes on wikipedia. I wish to add the same points to the article and mention the citations alongside as to where did i obtain the information from. Is it okay if i write the same points in my own words and make changes to the topic? The sequence of the points mentioned may be similar as in the references that i am using, though.

Thanks for helping me through this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Apoorvams (talk • contribs) 02:16, 15 November 2016 (UTC)

Yes, I understand completely. The sources that I use are often very difficult to rewrite in my own words. But that's what we need to do, and I understand that it's going to be challenging with what you're working with on. The sources need to be paraphrased as much as possible. Obviously, there are some aspects of the text that just can't be changed, but you need to put some effort into everything that can. Someone once said that great articles are the result of much toil. I'm not a great writer so my tool of choice is a thesaurus.

There's a ton of reference material on how to use markup and other style guidelines. Check out WP:REFB and WP:MOS for starters. Glad you're here, Dawnseeker2000 02:26, 15 November 2016 (UTC)

Thanks a lot. I am trying to rephrase it and mention as many sources, citations and references as possible. Please guide me through since i am new. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Apoorvams (talk • contribs) 02:38, 15 November 2016 (UTC)

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PNSN web page

Quick question - if you're someone who keeps an eye on seismological pages, could you straighten out the PNSN (Pacific Northwest Seismic Network) page? It is currently dominantly sarcastic and focused on minor setbacks and imagined flaws, misedited by a guy we fired five or ten years ago for abusing one of our female employees, Jazzbox. Our efforts to monitor several Seahawks football games took minimal effort, resulted in national visibility and earthquake education, coined the defining characteristic of Marshawn Lynch as the Beastquake, and helped test and perfect several useful realtime web capabilities, with the help of donated expertise from Microsoft. Also the insult about earthquake early warning is simply wrong, an erroneous headline for which the reporter has apologized to me. I could explain in detail if you're curious (my email is vidale@uw.edu).

I just helped out J Johnson with the earthquake prediction page last month, by the way, hard to keep the pseudoscience about earthquakes at bay. John (talk) 06:20, 7 December 2016 (UTC)

Unfortunately, now the fellow is quibbling with us and challenging our corrections to the PNSN article. What a nuisance.

I know, and I meant to respond earlier, but it's these kinds of situations that I should probably avoid. What I do best is the event articles, so I don't know if I could be that helpful on this one. I did want to say that I lived in Santa Cruz for a long time. From what I've read from Karen McNally, it must have been quite a flurry of activity at UCSC during that time. Dawnseeker2000 20:22, 8 December 2016 (UTC)

Probably will be problematic. Mike means well, but has a long-term grudge against the PNSN - he even picketed our building one day! It's not a big problem for us. UCSC is still a hotbed of seismology with Thorne Lay and Susan Schwartz, even though its been fairly quiet since the days of the Loma Prieta earthquake. John (talk) 00:28, 9 December 2016 (UTC)

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Switching pages to relief map

Why are you changing pages, particularly of cities in California (example), to use the relief map? On this map, the Sierra Nevadas clutter up the area where the pushpins are shown. Additionally, the relief caused by the Rocky Mountains creates an unfavorable contrast between the black text associated with the pushpin and the background. This violates potentially runs afoul of WP:ACCESSIBILITY for those with colorblindness. I'm interested to know your reasoning for the changes, though. AlexEng^(TALK) 20:00, 15 December 2016 (UTC)

Hi AlexEng, this last Sunday I created an AWB run with the following items and categories:

• My standard list of articles (about 10,000 items – with many, but not all, California settlements)
• All Wikipedia vital articles (9,824 articles)
• Featured articles (4,843 articles)

Since the original run on Sunday included changing a good number of the California articles, I thought that I should load up the rest of them (via Category:Incorporated cities and towns in California) and finish it off, as opposed to leaving only a tenth or less done. During the evenings this week and today (it's a snow day in Portland) I finished them off and have seen a few thanks in my notification area.

This is the first I've heard of a potential problem about this. None of those edits have been reverted. My thinking is that the relief version is a nicer map, and if there are accessibility issues with them, it would have been brought up long ago. There are thousands of instances of relief maps being used across the various language wikis, with a very large number of them using text labels, so if this truly were a problem, the issue would have been posted in clear terms in the manual of style. This is especially true considering many of these instances are good and featured articles, and an accessibility issue would have been looked at during the reviews. Considering these things, I don't see using the relief maps with text labels as a problem. I am willing to undo anything that is truly considered a problem by the community, but again, that would probably also require modifying thousands of other articles that use the relief maps and text labels across the various language wikis. Dawnseeker2000 21:34, 15 December 2016 (UTC)

I see. Thanks for the response. My intention was not to accuse you of wrongdoing but to bring up a potential accessibility issue. The relief version is certainly a nicer map, but I'm concerned about the contrast between the dark text and the dark areas on the map. The previously replaced map was very high contrast with a uniform light background and dark text, making the labels easy to read. I have a form of Protanomaly, which makes the current version slightly more difficult to read. However, I don't think that it's enough of a reason to undo the change on thousands of pages. Certainly, only the problem areas (where text labels fall on high-elevation zones) should be changed if any change is required at all. I'll start an RfC to get more input from the community and ping you in it. Thanks for your attention and prompt response! AlexEng^(TALK) 01:13, 16 December 2016 (UTC)

+supplemental information: I used snook's color tool to check the contrast ratio for one of the troubled spots. It came out to 5.45-to-1. That falls into the range of AA (4.5-to-1) guidelines, but not AAA (7-to-1) guidelines as noted here. AlexEng^(TALK) 01:23, 16 December 2016 (UTC)

OK, I had installed the Color Contrast Analyzer, but I didn't immediately see what to look for or really how to use it. Dawnseeker2000 16:15, 16 December 2016 (UTC)

RfD

Hi Dawnseeker2000,

if you've got a bunch to list at RfD, you can group them together if you want. Unfortunately there's some other editor (me) interspersing his listings with yours: but it's fine, we can shuffle yours all together and then bunch them into one listing, if you're happy to do it. Don't do it if you think different ones may have different outcomes (WP:TRAINWRECK), but if you think it's likely they would all have the same outcome it's pretty safe to do so. I'll hold off, if you acknowledge, and I'll give you a hand in combining them if you don't know how to do that. (It's not hard because each is already tagged with a section tag, so just moving them into one section won't lose any incoming links from the individual redirects to the discussion: you just have to edit the day's page and shuffle them without some other idiot like me getting in the way in the meantime.) Si Trew (talk) 23:23, 17 December 2016 (UTC)

OK thanks. I am not a regular there, so if you don't mind doing the bunching that would be great. There may be more to post, and I think most will have the same outcome, but I'll wait on any new items for a bit. It's just some long overdue housecleaning. Thanks for the comic relief as well. Dawnseeker2000 23:28, 17 December 2016 (UTC)

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1938 Kırşehir earthquake

Your list had no reason to be there in the first place, if I remove irrelevant information I'm not tasked with hunting out new relevant information to replace it, as it simply shouldn't of been there to being with.

I appreciate you adding the Turkey link, as it was relevant, but I'm not sure why you UNDID my revision rather than just replace it, as there was nothing wrong with my edit. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.67.160.98 (talk) 10:01, 14 January 2017 (UTC)

AWB dash fix at San Fernando Valley

Did AWB really suggest 1885 – 1941 with spaces in it? That's an error. Number ranges including year ranges should be unspaced. If AWB is always correcting spaced hyphen to spaced en dash, that's something we should probably get someone to fix. Dicklyon (talk) 00:27, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

Well, that's most likely something different. I'm not sure about that particular change. Let me explain. My method of operation starts with an AWB run, and when it stops on an article with enough fixes that warrant a save, I copy what it's done to Firefox, where I make additional changes with User:GregU/dashes.js and/or WP:WIKED. The situation is this though: AWB catches some of the MOS:DASH fixes, but not all of them. The GregU tool catches many more, and I wasn't paying attention as far as which tool caught the instance you mentioned. Let me take a closer look and I'll report back. Dawnseeker2000 00:37, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

OK @Dicklyon:, I have been watching closely and have made about 400–500 AWB edits since this happened, and I've come across another situation where a spaced hyphen in a date range was not converted to an unspaced endash. It's the dashes tool that didn't catch it, so I just manually fixed it. This is a pretty rare situation, so I'll just continue to watch closely. I don't run the tool at a breakneck pace, so errors are on my part are infrequent.

Speaking of which, I wanted to expand on an edit summary about another situation that @Fnlayson: helped out with. I've been using AWB for about four years, but have really only been running high volumes of articles through it since early 2015. A few weeks ago, I came across the Fracture mechanics article that had two types of dash-related changes made to it, and I actually hadn't been aware of the difference between the minus sign and the endash (−)(–) until then. They're really quite difficult to differentiate visually when they're not sitting right next to each other (I use the find / highlight feature in the browser to distinguish). Anyhow, I just wanted to acknowledge the help that I've received on the aviation articles and to please continue looking out for irregularities. Thanks, Dawnseeker2000 03:48, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

Thanks! I agree the en dash and minus are hard to distinguish. In the old days, an en dash was commonly used for minus (being about the same width as the plus), but with unicode it gets its own code point, so life gets a bit more complicated. Dicklyon (talk) 03:57, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

1841 "Caída da Praia" earthquake edits Comment

Thanks for correcting my accidental deletion of a line in the template for 1841 "Caída da Praia" earthquake. I must have deleted it when I was pasting data into the template. As far as your comment on my previous edit, perhaps I used the word "correct" improperly on the edit comment. However, I was correcting the coordinates I myself entered into the template because I used the incorrect epicenter coordinates when I first added them to the article. I am in the process of updating another earthquake article that is missing coordinates and other template values, so if you have any other pointers, please let me know. Thanks. Nancystodd (talk) 00:36, 21 February 2017 (UTC)nancystodd

I apologize. I hadn't seen that you made a couple of edits. All good, I didn't make any changes to the article; I just wanted to pass along that it would be quite the merry-go-round if we all went around correcting each other based on different sources, as I'm sure you're aware. Thanks for correcting my correction! Dawnseeker2000 00:44, 21 February 2017 (UTC)

Hôpital Albert Schweitzer

Hello Dawnseeker2000! There is currently an ongoing discussion on this hospital's talk page that has since been stagnate. Formerly two independent articles, Albert Schweitzer Hospital in Gabon and the current which was solely used for a hospital in Haiti that share the same name (both use French as an official language) has recently had the contents of Gabon's hospital merged with the Haiti article. Prior to the merge I did not even know it was taking place, for whatever reason. Opposing editor and I differ on whether the two hospitals are independent. More of this discussion can be found on its talk page. I would much appreciate a third opinion on the matter. Thank you kindly. Savvyjack23 (talk) 01:18, 27 February 2017 (UTC)

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