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0 BC did not exist. See 0 (year). So, it is ridiculous to claim that Jesus was born in the year 0. Besides, there is no church dogma that Jesus were born in either 1 BC or 1 AD. Tgeorgescu (talk) 23:40, 16 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Historical analysis section

The historical analysis section is heavily biased. It needs to include arguments in favor of historicity (various scholars have made them). There also counter-arguments to issues like the census.--FutureTrillionaire (talk) 15:16, 14 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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What is wrong with the picture?The New Classic (talk) 02:44, 23 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Census of Quirinius

The historicity of the census has never been in doubt, what does not match historical records is putting it in 4 BCE. Tgeorgescu (talk) 18:40, 7 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

That is only if one assumes the census referred to in Luke is the same as the census conducted by Quirinius in 6 CE. The Greek grammar of Luke 2:2 is ambiguous. It can either mean "This was the first census... while Quirinius was governor of Syria" or it can mean "this census was prior to... Quirinius [being] governor of Syria." There is also an incomplete manuscript describing a "legate of Syria" receiving the office for a second time, which unfortunately is missing the name, but describes a career and time frame likely to match Quirinius, suggesting he held the post twice and therefore conducted a census twice (the first now being lost to the historical record) (cf. Smith, Mark. "Of Jesus and Quirinius." CBQ 62 [2000], 278-93). Or it could mean a separate Quirinius held the post during this time, as a coin has recently been discovered with a Quirinius serving as proconsul of Syria and Cilicia during Jesus' birth (cf. McRay, John. Archaeology and the New Testament. [Grand Rapids: Baker, 1991], 154). Though each of these possibilities comes with scant evidence, it does suggest that a Quirinius held an Imperial position of power during Jesus' birth, and may indeed have issued a census.The Famous Adventurer (talk) 06:12, 31 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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	The historicity of the census has never been in doubt, what does not match historical records is putting it in 4 BCE. [[User:Tgeorgescu\|Tgeorgescu]] ([[User talk:Tgeorgescu\|talk]]) 18:40, 7 September 2017 (UTC)		The historicity of the census has never been in doubt, what does not match historical records is putting it in 4 BCE. [[User:Tgeorgescu\|Tgeorgescu]] ([[User talk:Tgeorgescu\|talk]]) 18:40, 7 September 2017 (UTC)
	::That is only if one assumes the census referred to in Luke is the same as the census conducted by Quirinius in 6 CE. The Greek grammar of Luke 2:2 is ambiguous. It can either mean "This was the first census... while Quirinius was governor of Syria" or it can mean "this census was prior to... Quirinius [being] governor of Syria." There is also an incomplete manuscript describing a "legate of Syria" receiving the office for a second time, which unfortunately is missing the name, but describes a career and time frame likely to match Quirinius, suggesting he held the post twice and therefore conducted a census twice (the first now being lost to the historical record) (cf. Smith, Mark. "Of Jesus and Quirinius." CBQ 62 [2000], 278-93. Or it could mean a separate Quirinius held the post during this time, as a coin has recently been discovered with a Quirinius serving as proconsul of Syria and Cilicia during Jesus' birth (cf. McRay, John. ''Archaeology and the New Testament.'' [Grand Rapids: Baker, 1991], 154. Though each of these possibilities comes with scant evidence, it does suggest that a Quirinius held an Imperial position of power during Jesus' birth, and may indeed have issued a census.[[User:The.famous.adventurer\|The Famous Adventurer]] ([[User talk:The.famous.adventurer\|talk]]) 06:12, 31 December 2017 (UTC)		::That is only if one assumes the census referred to in Luke is the same as the census conducted by Quirinius in 6 CE. The Greek grammar of Luke 2:2 is ambiguous. It can either mean "This was the first census... while Quirinius was governor of Syria" or it can mean "this census was prior to... Quirinius [being] governor of Syria." There is also an incomplete manuscript describing a "legate of Syria" receiving the office for a second time, which unfortunately is missing the name, but describes a career and time frame likely to match Quirinius, suggesting he held the post twice and therefore conducted a census twice (the first now being lost to the historical record) (cf. Smith, Mark. "Of Jesus and Quirinius." CBQ 62 [2000], 278-93). Or it could mean a separate Quirinius held the post during this time, as a coin has recently been discovered with a Quirinius serving as proconsul of Syria and Cilicia during Jesus' birth (cf. McRay, John. ''Archaeology and the New Testament.'' [Grand Rapids: Baker, 1991], 154). Though each of these possibilities comes with scant evidence, it does suggest that a Quirinius held an Imperial position of power during Jesus' birth, and may indeed have issued a census.[[User:The.famous.adventurer\|The Famous Adventurer]] ([[User talk:The.famous.adventurer\|talk]]) 06:12, 31 December 2017 (UTC)