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[[User:SPECIFICO |<b style="color: #0011FF;"> SPECIFICO</b>]][[User_talk:SPECIFICO | ''talk'']] 23:44, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
[[User:SPECIFICO |<b style="color: #0011FF;"> SPECIFICO</b>]][[User_talk:SPECIFICO | ''talk'']] 23:44, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
{{ping|Jytdog}} - fixing ping from preceding. [[User:SPECIFICO |<b style="color: #0011FF;"> SPECIFICO</b>]][[User_talk:SPECIFICO | ''talk'']] 23:45, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
{{ping|Jytdog}} - fixing ping from preceding. [[User:SPECIFICO |<b style="color: #0011FF;"> SPECIFICO</b>]][[User_talk:SPECIFICO | ''talk'']] 23:45, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

*'''Support''' {{U|D.Creish}}'s take on this. As currently written in Wiki-voice, the text of the content in question is incredibly POV, with is a vio of NPOV as well as [[WP:BLP]]. I am reverting it back to the NPOV version while discussion takes place here. The NPOV version gets the point across and is best to remain in the article for now, even if consensus decides on different wording. Pinging {{U|MelanieN}} to this discussion as she has demonstrated a great ability to rewrite POV content to a better compromise between editors challenging prose and NPOV/POV. '''<span style="text-shadow: 4px 4px 15px #0099FF, -4px -4px 15px #99FF00;">[[User:Winkelvi|-- ψλ]]</span>''' ● <span style="text-shadow: 4px 4px 15px #FF9900, -4px -4px 15px #FF0099;">[[User_talk:Winkelvi|✉]] [[Special:Contributions/Winkelvi|✓]]</span> 00:06, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on May 31, 2018

Template:Edit semi-protected - Indian American bio edit

In the first sentence, calling Dinesh D'Souza an Indian American is misleading. This means he was born in America and has Indian descent. However, he was born in India, came here for college, and became a naturalized citizen. To be accurate, it should make that distinction. Below are two options for editing the sentence to be accurate:

Dinesh Joseph D'Souza (/dɪˈnɛʃ dəˈsuːzə/; born April 25, 1961) is a naturalized American citizen of Indian descent, who is a conservative political commentator, author, filmmaker, and convicted felon.

OR

Dinesh Joseph D'Souza (/dɪˈnɛʃ dəˈsuːzə/; born April 25, 1961) is an Indian born, naturalized American citizen, who is a conservative political commentator, author, filmmaker, and convicted felon.

Party switch denial

Dinesh D'Souza heavily contributes to the increasingly popular in conservative circles worldview that the political parties in the United States never switched their ideologies, meaning that Klansmen and slaveowners are "leftist", the southern strategy never happened, and welfare is a new form of slavery. This is very often cited by conservative outlets such as prageru, national review and so on. The Big Lie: Exposing the Nazi Roots of the American Left, his newest book, relies completely on this thesis as well.

This should be significantly featured in the article. Lazybanshee (talk) 06:05, 5 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

That comment in itself is biased. The parties never "switched sides" because why would one party choose to start being racist, xenophobic, chauvinistic, bigoted, and etc. This makes no sense. Perhaps both parties strive for the same goals and one party may have a problem with its history, being radical rather than leftist. The "switched sides" theory is both untrue and based on ignorance. Dinseh D'Souza's work is well researched and documented. ZandoviseZandovise (talk) 01:48, 17 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

IQ?

There is nothing in this article about his IQ, which is reputed to be EXTREMELY high. Few, if any,, of his critics have extremely high IQ's. Timothy Horrigan (talk) 14:33, 2 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Father and Mother's Names, Family Clan, and other Pre-US information

Half of his life was in India and that seems to have been conveniently left out. Please add his parents names including his mother's maiden name. It's important in understanding his background in India. Names are connected to all sorts of social and cultural information in India. I hope they weren't originally removed or left out for that reason. Without them this page is missing the depth that Dinesh himself seeks in most of his investigations and research. Also add any information about his family clan in India, family social status etc from India. There's a lot missing here. Add them. It will be most enlightening. 1.10.217.84 (talk) 12:33, 13 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Balance in D'Souza article

I made a number of small changes here, in an attempt to improve the article, which is how Wikipedia is supposed to work. But a left-wing ideologue is undoing EVERY SINGLE EDIT, calling them "controversial", when the controversy exists only in his mind.

  • "Media Matters for America" is a group bankrolled and run by hard left folks such as George Soros and David Brock. It was reported in mainstream media (such as Newsweek) after MMA brought down Don Imus, that MMA has full-time staffers monitoring talk-shows they deem conservative, listening for anything they can use to destroy the show's reputation. Portraying MMA as a neutral media observer is absurd.
  • Alan Dershowitz is a life-long liberal, who recently has taken a handful of political positions that align with conservatives. This is not a matter of debate - Dershowitz has authored dozens of books, and is a frequent media presence; his liberal outlook cannot seriously be questioned. Lumping in Dershowitz as a conservative is simply false.
  • Stating as fact, without any qualification, that the US "stole" Native American land, makes this page sound like a Howard Zinn exercise in anti-American polemics, and not like a Wikipedia page. Adding in the modifier "alleged" should hardly be deemed "controversial".
  • And my last edit simply was for readability and clarity, and was in no way related to politics. That this editor removed that improvement as well, and somehow deemed it "controversial", reflects extremely poorly on his judgment.

It seems that Nicolas Maduro is masquerading as a Wikipedia editor. Vcuttolo (talk) 06:56, 11 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 9 May 2018

When discussing the score on Rotten Tomatoes for "Hillary's America" the article omits the fact that the user reviews are 80% positive based on >13,500 reviews. 73.136.208.129 (talk) 12:22, 9 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Please provide the article text you are proposing to add, its location, and the source you propose to cite in order to verify the text. SPECIFICO talk 13:45, 9 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Add announcement of presidential pardon

The Presidential announcement via Twitter on May 31, 2018 that D'Souza will be pardoned should be added to the felony conviction section.

The following text should be added:

On May 31, 2018, President Donald Trump announced via Twitter that D'Souza will be pardoned.[1]

 Already done ‑‑ElHef (Meep?) 14:19, 31 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ Trump, Donald. "Donald J. Trump on Twitter: "Will be giving a Full Pardon to Dinesh D'Souza today. He was treated very unfairly by our government!"". Twitter. Retrieved 31 May 2018.

As far as I'm aware you remain a convicted felon when pardoned.

Is that correct? If so, that description should not be removed from this article. ResistTheEnemy (talk) 15:13, 31 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

America: Imagine the World Without Her

I've removed the one-sided political commentary from the "America: Imagine with World Without Her" section. This was selectively copied from America: Imagine the World Without Her, which references a whole variety of political commentary. There is zero reason for the section in this article to focus exclusively on conservative commentary. Either a summary of the variety of political commentary be included here, or readers can go to the film's article to read all available commentary in depth. Erik (talk | contrib) (ping me) 16:03, 31 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Recipients of American presidential pardons

Is this YET 'A DONE DEAL'? MaynardClark If the pardon has only been announced but not yet granted, should the Category be added at the bottom? (talk) 16:28, 31 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

D'Souza promoted conspiracy theories

This is extensively sourced and uncontroversial. He hasn't "been criticized for espousing conspiracy theories" or whatever WP:WEASEL phrase was inserted into the article. When a bunch of RS say that D'Souza regularly promotes conspiracy theories, the RS are not "criticizing" him for it, they are merely describing him. Snooganssnoogans (talk) 23:06, 31 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Review the RFC [1].
Then list the sources and relevant text that support Widely characterized as a provocateur and polemicist (emphasis on widely) and have been the subject of considerable controversy due to his promotion of false and unfounded conspiracy theories. Reminder this is a BLP. D.Creish (talk) 23:13, 31 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
There are multiple RS cited - read them. The RfC is about whether D'Souza should be labelled a "conspiracy theorist" (which he definitely is, and I'm sure a proper RfC where I substantiate it with reliable sources would deliver a clear and resounding verdict in favor of the label), but that's something different from whether he's promoted conspiracy theories (which is clearly the language that RS use). Snooganssnoogans (talk) 23:18, 31 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I didn't ask whether there were RS. I asked you to specifically identify the sources and text that support those two claims, which WP:BURDEN requires you do. I'll wait but don't restore your edit until you do and without clear consensus. D.Creish (talk) 23:21, 31 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Why are editors like this? Why is it so hard to just edit cooperatively? Do I really need to go and google "Dinesh D'Souza" + "provocateur", and then link the Google Search for you?[2] Do I really need to google "Dinesh D'Souza" + "polemic" and then link the Google Search for you?[3] The RS that are currently cited all explicitly say he's promoted unfounded and false conspiracy theories. You're editing the D'Souza page and you clearly know all of this. Why are you doing this, man? Snooganssnoogans (talk) 23:36, 31 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

A few of the many references regarding conspiracy theories, per@JzG::

That last three in particular make it clear that even conservatives like David Frum have backed away from him as he gone more and more loony. The 1st ref above is right-wingish. The 2nd is generally right-wing. I am not aware of GQ having politics. The others are probably considered lefty.

So... this is pretty across-the-board, which is plenty broad to say it in WP's voice. Jytdog (talk) 07:50, 23 October 2016 (UTC) Thank you Jytdog for those extensive and exhaustive citations. This should put to rest the concerns of the other disruptive editor that there are we are solely relying on a sources from a couple of reviewers. I would've included more since this debate re-opened, but we must await the page being unlocked from protective status. It is clear from those sources that are from reputable sources on all sides of the political spectrum that D'Souza is advancing conspiracy theories. There should no longer be a question of whether or not we include it as WP:DUE and WP:CITATION demand we accurately call this duck that quacks like a duck the duck it is. JzG[reply]
SPECIFICO talk 23:44, 31 May 2018 (UTC) @Jytdog: - fixing ping from preceding. SPECIFICO talk 23:45, 31 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support D.Creish's take on this. As currently written in Wiki-voice, the text of the content in question is incredibly POV, with is a vio of NPOV as well as WP:BLP. I am reverting it back to the NPOV version while discussion takes place here. The NPOV version gets the point across and is best to remain in the article for now, even if consensus decides on different wording. Pinging MelanieN to this discussion as she has demonstrated a great ability to rewrite POV content to a better compromise between editors challenging prose and NPOV/POV. -- ψλ ● ✉ ✓ 00:06, 1 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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