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=PCCW= |
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== Managing a conflict of interest == |
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[[File:Information.svg|25px|alt=Information icon]] Hello, Stevenhksar. We [[Wikipedia:Welcoming committee/Welcome to Wikipedia|welcome]] your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things [[Special:Contributions/Stevenhksar|you have written about]] in the page [[PCCW]], you may have a [[conflict of interest]] (COI). Editors with a conflict of interest may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the '''[[Wikipedia:Conflict of interest|conflict of interest guideline]]''' and [[Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations|FAQ for organizations]] for more information. We ask that you: |
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== Cut and paste content between articles [[PCCW]] and [[Hong Kong Telecom]]== |
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You have to discuss with other people before making such cut and paste reshuffle . Also, you should mentioned in the edit summary as well as using {{t|copied}} on talk page. However i am against such reshuffle . [[PCCW]] is the main article of the whole group and those content are basically brief introduction of the subsidiary that have their own articles in wiki. |
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For PCCW Engineering, it was owned by PCCW-HKT, however, PCCW-HKT is not part of the current listed company HKT Limited , by context it seem more relevant to stay in the article [[PCCW]] (which still privately owned PCCW-HKT), unless the section was updated to reflect the current situation, whatever the division had became part of HKT Limited again or not. [[User:Matthew hk|Matthew hk]] ([[User talk:Matthew hk|talk]]) 08:50, 11 March 2019 (UTC) |
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:PCCW-HKT is not part of the current listed company because HKT Limited 100% CONTROL PCCW-HKT ; Also since 2011 |
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:HKT Group USED HKT to replaced PCCW and PCCW-HKT ,PCCW is not use more or new services, ALL staff FOR PCCW/HKT GrOUP BOSS is |
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:Recruitment by HKT services Limited; not PCCW-HKT Recruitment . [stevenhksar 12:07 , 11 March 2019 (UTC) |
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::Please provide [[WP:reliable source]]. [[User:Matthew hk|Matthew hk]] ([[User talk:Matthew hk|talk]]) 12:21, 11 March 2019 (UTC) |
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::For PCCW-HKT part. PCCW-HKT is a wholly owned subsidiary of PCCW, while HKT is not. Please read [http://www3.hkexnews.hk/listedco/listconews/SEHK/2018/0328/LTN20180328828.pdf annual report] {{rp|80}}. [[User:Matthew hk|Matthew hk]] ([[User talk:Matthew hk|talk]]) 12:34, 11 March 2019 (UTC) |
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[[File:Nuvola apps important.svg|25px|alt=|link=]] Please stop your [[Wikipedia:Disruptive editing|disruptive editing]]. |
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* If you are engaged in an article [[Wikipedia:Editing policy|content dispute]] with another editor, discuss the matter with the editor at their talk page, or the [[:Talk:Hong Kong Telecom|article's talk page]], and seek [[Wikipedia:Consensus|consensus]] with them. Alternatively you can read Wikipedia's [[Wikipedia:Dispute resolution|dispute resolution]] page, and ask for independent help at one of the [[Wikipedia:Dispute resolution#Ask for help at a relevant noticeboard|relevant notice boards]]. |
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* If you are engaged in any other form of dispute that is not covered on the dispute resolution page, seek assistance at Wikipedia's [[Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents|Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents]]. |
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If you continue to disrupt Wikipedia, as you did at [[:Hong Kong Telecom]], you may be [[Wikipedia:Blocking policy|blocked from editing]]. ''[[Special:Diff/887242168]]'' <!-- Template:uw-disruptive3 --> [[User:Matthew hk|Matthew hk]] ([[User talk:Matthew hk|talk]]) 12:24, 11 March 2019 (UTC) |
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===PCCW Engineering (CASCADE)=== |
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For PCCW Engineering (CASCADE), the current unsourced content in the wiki article was chopped. The citation was about CASCADE was a wholly owned subsidiary of PCCW . [http://the-sun.on.cc/channels/fina/20021118/20021118020518_0002.html The Sun (Hong Kong newspaper)], so please provide reliable source and discuss in talk page on migrating the content between wiki articles. [[User:Matthew hk|Matthew hk]] ([[User talk:Matthew hk|talk]]) 12:34, 11 March 2019 (UTC) |
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[[File:Stop hand nuvola.svg|30px|alt=Stop icon]] You may be '''[[Wikipedia:Blocking policy|blocked from editing]] without further warning''' the next time you [[Wikipedia:Vandalism|vandalize]] Wikipedia, as you did at [[:PCCW]]. ''Cascade is not under HKT http://the-sun.on.cc/channels/fina/20021118/20021118020518_0002.html Please give reliable source before changing the section title level, which your edits made false impression of lineage ''<!-- Template:uw-vandalism4 --> [[User:Matthew hk|Matthew hk]] ([[User talk:Matthew hk|talk]]) 14:38, 11 March 2019 (UTC) |
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:[[Special:Diff/887254596]]. [[User:Matthew hk|Matthew hk]] ([[User talk:Matthew hk|talk]]) 14:39, 11 March 2019 (UTC) |
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::BTW, according to https://www.icris.cr.gov.hk/csci/ the government database, CASCADE Limited is CASCADE Limited, it is not PCCW Engineering. If you want to add information about PCCW Engineering the subsidiary of the division, please provide reliable source. [[User:Matthew hk|Matthew hk]] ([[User talk:Matthew hk|talk]]) 14:51, 11 March 2019 (UTC) |
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The answer you request is WP:reliable source on 6823:hk :Let's clear think 1 by 1, HKTrust is used for HKTGH = HKT , |
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you can check on hk stock exchange |
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http://www3.hkexnews.hk/listedco/listconews/SEHK/2011/1116/LTN20111116015.pdf please see p.175-p.176 |
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In the fourth quarter of 2008, PCCW completed a corporate reorganisation which grouped its |
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telecommunications services, media and IT solutions businesses under HKTGH with the aim of |
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improving PCCW’s operational efficiencies. Key features of the 2008 Restructuring were as follows: |
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(a) to consolidate the essential telecommunications assets and business into one new operating entity |
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namely, Hong Kong Telecommunications (HKT) Limited. Into this company was injected the |
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business and assets of HKTC which was then operating the fixed line telecommunications |
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business, the network assets of PCCW Mobile HK Limited which was then operating the mobile |
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business and other related telecommunications businesses from elsewhere in the PCCW Group; |
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(b) to create a more ordered structure for the global telecommunications businesses (under HKT |
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(International) Limited) as distinct from the domestic telecommunications businesses (under HKT |
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(Hong Kong) Limited); |
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(c) to consolidate the Media Business under Media Holdings; |
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(d) to consolidate the Solutions Business under Solutions Holdings; and |
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(e) to consolidate each of the Telecommunications Business, the Media Business and the Solutions |
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Business under HKTGH. |
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'''The transfer of the aforementioned businesses to HKTGH was effected by the transfer of assets and |
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liabilities primarily from HKTC to a subsidiary of HKTGH, and transfer of the entire equity interests in a |
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number of entities, including Cascade Limited, PCCW Global Limited, PCCW Mobile HK Limited, PCCW |
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Media Limited and PCCW Solutions Limited, to subsidiaries of HKTGH.''' The considerations of the |
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transfers were determined with reference to the then fair values of the businesses transferred. Goodwill |
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arising from the 2008 Restructuring represented the difference between the transfer considerations and |
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the fair values of the identifiable assets and liabilities of the accounting acquirees. The goodwill of Trust |
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Group as at 31 December 2008 was approximately HK$35,688 million, please refer to notes 19 and |
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36(a) of the Accountant’s Report in Appendix I to this prospectus for further information. |
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http://www3.hkexnews.hk/listedco/listconews/SEHK/2011/1116/LTN20111116016_C.pdf |
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於2008年第四季，電訊盈科完成企業重組，將其電訊服務、媒體及資訊科技服務方案業務 |
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組合於HKTGH旗下，目的是改善電訊盈科的營運效率。2008年重組的主要特色如下： |
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(a) 將基本電訊資產及業務綜合成為一個新營運實體，即Hong Kong Telecommunications |
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(HKT) Limited，這間公司已注入香港電話公司的業務及資產，香港電話公司當時營運 |
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固網電訊業務、PCCW Mobile HK Limited（當時營運電訊盈科集團的流動通訊業務及 |
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來自其他地方的其他相關電訊業務）的網絡資產； |
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(b) 為HKT (International) Limited旗下的全球電訊業務制定更有序且能與HKT (Hong |
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Kong) Limited旗下的本地電訊業務區分的架構； |
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(c) 整合Media Holdings旗下的媒體業務； |
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(d) 整合Solutions Holdings旗下的企業方案業務；及 |
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(e) 分別整合HKTGH旗下的電訊業務、媒體業務及企業方案業務。 |
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將上述業務轉讓予HKTGH的方法，主要為將香港電話公司的資產及負債轉讓予HKTGH的 |
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一家附屬公司以及將多個實體（包括萃鋒有限公司、電訊盈科環球業務有限公司、PCCW |
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Mobile HK Limited、電訊盈科媒體有限公司及電訊盈科企業方案有限公司）的全部股權轉 |
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讓予HKTGH的附屬公司。轉讓的代價參照所轉讓業務當時的公平價值釐定。2008年重組產 |
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生的商譽指轉讓代價與在會計上被收購公司的可辨識資產及負債公平價值之間的差額。信 |
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託集團於2008年12月31日的商譽約為港幣356.88億元，詳情請參閱本招股章程附錄一會計 |
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師報告附註19及36(a)。 |
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([[User talk:stevenhksar|talk]]) 13:10, 11 March 2019 (UTC) |
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:PCCW-HKT Limited is a wholly owned subsidiary of PCCW Limited. The current HKT Limited is a non-wholly-owned subsidiary and owned some the assets of the former PCCW-HKT Limited . It does not means PCCW-HKT Limited is a subsidiary of HKT Limited. [[User:Matthew hk|Matthew hk]] ([[User talk:Matthew hk|talk]]) 15:29, 11 March 2019 (UTC) |
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:Also, it have nothing to do with the claim of "PCCW Engineering = Cascade" [[User:Matthew hk|Matthew hk]] ([[User talk:Matthew hk|talk]]) 15:31, 11 March 2019 (UTC) |
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:And the group structure was as follow |
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:{{Tree list}} |
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*[[PCCW]] |
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**HKT Limited c/o HKT Trust |
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***Navigator |
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***CSL |
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***etc. |
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{{Tree list/end}} |
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:So it is totally logical to have a brief summary in [[PCCW]] for the second-tier subsidiary. You did not provide any reason to remove the content and paste it in [[Hong Kong Telecom]] that break all the sentence structure and have a self link of Hong Kong Telecom [[Special:Permalink/887194125]]. [[User:Matthew hk|Matthew hk]] ([[User talk:Matthew hk|talk]]) 15:35, 11 March 2019 (UTC) |
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::<blockquote>Data from HKT group intra mail: |
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__________________________________________________________ |
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To: All colleagues |
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From: |
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WW Chan |
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Managing Director, Engineering |
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Date: July 31, 2009 |
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Management redeployment to strengthen engineering service excellence |
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'''Subsequent to the integration of CASCADE into HKT Group and renamed as Engineering in November 2008,''' and in light of the statement from Alex in May 2009 on our determination to strengthen engineering service delivery, Gary and I have reviewed the key deliverables of Engineering and how Engineering can best support the Company in winning the competition. |
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Engineering is responsible for ensuring that the Company builds and operates the best network in Hong Kong and we should deliver the best-in-class customer experience. To address these two top priorities, we have decided to further strengthen the Engineering organization with effect from August 1, 2009. The key changes are as follows: |
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Formation of a new directorate of Field Services to put more focus on enhancing all customer-end field operations including field installation, restoration and outside plant engineering. This will be headed by Mr Peter Lam. |
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2. |
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Customer Services directorate headed by Mr Kelvin Li will expand to provide account services to corporate customers, responsible for CPE Engineering, Global support, and key local and overseas customer projects. In addition, this unit is responsible for overseeing the quality of end-to-end customer services for our commercial and consumer customers. |
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3. |
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With Customer Services taking up key local and overseas projects from Strategy and Projects, Mr Frankie Wong will move to R&D, responsible for engineering development of new products and system support for the network. |
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4. Mr MT Louie will take up Network Planning and ensure the Company builds the best network supporting quadplay. |
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5. Mr YK Wong will head Network Services to deliver world-class network services with high availability of services. |
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6. |
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Mr Adam Wong, Principal Consultant, will continue to provide expert advice to Engineering on mobile engineering strategy and oversee major mobile projects. |
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7. Mr Peter Yu will take up special projects reporting to me till his retirement in end December 2009. |
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The new organization structure is shown in the attached chart. |
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I look forward to your full support of the new structure and trust the change will bring about improvement on network engineering and customer services which will better support the business activities of various BUs. |
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WW Chan |
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Managing Director, Engineering |
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</blockquote> <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Stevenhksar|Stevenhksar]] ([[User talk:Stevenhksar#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Stevenhksar|contribs]]) 2019-03-15T15:46:21 (UTC)</small> |
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:::{{reply|Stevenhksar}}, Internal email is not a [[WP:reliable source]], we use [[secondary source]] mainly. Also, It seem you are [[PCCW]]/HKT employee. So you can't edits PCCW or related articlee due to [[WP:COI]] policy. Please suggest edits in [[Talk:PCCW]] for PCCW article or other respective talk pages . [[User:Matthew hk|Matthew hk]] ([[User talk:Matthew hk|talk]]) 09:14, 16 March 2019 (UTC) |
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:::And it make your talk page too long and your blanking is not helpful to keep the archive of discussion that related to the articles, so please post your comment for PCCW Engineering in [[Talk:PCCW]]. [[User:Matthew hk|Matthew hk]] ([[User talk:Matthew hk|talk]]) 09:30, 16 March 2019 (UTC) |
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==RM of [[Gateway Communications]]== |
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Please start [[WP:RM]] discussion thread on moving article. BTW [[Gateway Communications]] and [[PCCW Global]] are two separate companies. It is called content hijack if you turn the main topic of an article that have a trace of [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gateway_Communications&action=history page history], from one to another. PCCW Global acquired Gateway Communications, does not means the article [[Gateway Communications]] have to move to PCCW Global. [[User:Matthew hk|Matthew hk]] ([[User talk:Matthew hk|talk]]) 18:20, 11 March 2019 (UTC) |
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== March 2019 == |
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Thank you.<!-- Template:uw-tilde --> [[User:Matthew hk|Matthew hk]] ([[User talk:Matthew hk|talk]]) 09:16, 16 March 2019 (UTC) |
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==ANI== |
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== March 2019 == |
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[[File:Information orange.svg|25px|alt=Information icon]] Please do not [[Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines#EDIT|delete or edit]] legitimate talk page comments, as you did at [[:Talk:PCCW]]. Such edits are disruptive, and may appear to other editors to be [[Wikipedia:Vandalism|vandalism]]. If you would like to experiment, please use the [[Wikipedia:Sandbox|sandbox]]. Thank you.<!-- Template:uw-tpv2 --> [[User:Matthew hk|Matthew hk]] ([[User talk:Matthew hk|talk]]) 17:07, 16 March 2019 (UTC) |
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