Talk:Canongate Kirkyard

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Patrick Hume, 1st Earl of Marchmont

Do we have any experts on Covenanters and Jacobites? The Patrick Hume, 1st Earl of Marchmont article is clearly a copy n paste from somewhere, and completely contradicted by this article. Could someone please clarify, preferably with ext refs? Please see:

Talk:Patrick Hume, 1st Earl of Marchmont

--Mais oui! (talk) 07:19, 19 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This site [1] says he hid there after the Rye House Plot, not the Jacobite rising, which fits. It seems highly unlikley that he was a Catholic and certainly wasnt a Jacobite, the most superficial research would show him to be a solid Presbyterian. The biography article seems to be correct, the bit here looks like nonsense to me. Also, pretty clear that McEwan was not buried here, though there may be a plaque or something.

Massive amounts of unreferenced information were introduced to this and other Edinburgh graveyard pages earlier in the year. It all needs going through with the proverbial comb (which you seem to be making a good start on!). Thanks, Jonathan Oldenbuck (talk) 15:18, 31 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

There seems no evidence at all that this is his tomb. Even disregarding the confused historical background here I would hazard that the "Marchmont" here refers to a Marchmont family plot NOT the Earl of Marchmont. It says he lived in Canongate but where does that idea stem from. Should we not just delete this section?--Stephencdickson (talk) 18:38, 5 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed and done. What about McEwan? Do you know whether he has a memorial or should this be removed also? Thanks, Jonathan Oldenbuck (talk) 11:53, 7 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

William McEwan

Another flat contradiction here:

He died in 1913 in Mayfair and was buried in the village of Great Bookham in Surrey.

--Mais oui! (talk) 08:08, 19 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I suggest this should be called Canongate Kirkyard. PatGallacher (talk) 19:58, 7 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move

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The result of the move request was: moved. Unopposed for over three weeks. Jenks24 (talk) 13:34, 4 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Canongate Churchyard → Canongate Kirkyard – This its common name, it is inconsistent to use the present name when we have Canongate Kirk. Relisted. Favonian (talk) 16:49, 16 July 2012 (UTC) PatGallacher (talk) 00:07, 9 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Ebenezer Scroggie

The presence of Ebenezer Scroggie's grave is disputed. There is no evidence that Scoggie existed, nor has there been a grave with his name in the kirkyard. It is possible that he is part of a "Dicken's hoax".^[1]^[2] Mike Marchmont (talk) 08:04, 12 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I have now incorporated the above information into the article. This is to draw attention to the fact that the presence of this grave is almost certainly a hoax. Mike Marchmont (talk) 08:15, 7 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Pelling, Rowan (February 7, 2014). "Mr Punch is still knocking them dead after 350 years". The Telegraph. Archived from the original on 11 January 2022. Retrieved June 16, 2017.
^ Melvin, Eric (2014). A walk through Edinburgh's New Town. Scotland. p. 63. ISBN 9781500122010.{{cite book}}: CS1 maint: location missing publisher (link)

[1] Pelling, Rowan (February 7, 2014). "Mr Punch is still knocking them dead after 350 years". The Telegraph. Archived from the original on 11 January 2022. Retrieved June 16, 2017.

[2] Melvin, Eric (2014). A walk through Edinburgh's New Town. Scotland. p. 63. ISBN 9781500122010.{{cite book}}: CS1 maint: location missing publisher (link)

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