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Actually I haven't done anything about your edits

but where you haven't added sources you need to, and note that our articles can't be used as sources. ~See also Help:Referencing for beginners. Doug Weller talk —Preceding undated comment added 16:04, 9 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, alright Zhomron (talk) 16:36, 9 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Sodom and Gomorrah

Hi, I see your edits to Sodom and Gomorrah have been reverted for weak reasons. A number of other people have added the same information to the page, only to have it deleted. I suggest you add your opinion to the discussion at the bottom of Talk:Sodom and Gomorrah, and perhaps a consensus will emerge that the information can remain. Ar2332 (talk) 21:02, 23 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Supporters of Creationism will of course want to use Creationist sources, even conference papers. Doug Weller talk 19:04, 24 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Doug Weller: Yeah I'm really not interested in making this the hill I die on. I thought something was a peer-reviewed paper, it wasn't, it got removed. I see no reason to try and make a case for it on the page. Zhomron (talk) 20:06, 24 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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About your edits

I saw some of your edits and you show knowledge of Bible scholarship. But does not mean that you would be exempted from citing your sources for each and every claim you make. Tgeorgescu (talk) 03:57, 29 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

May 2020

Warning icon Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to violate Wikipedia's no original research policy by adding your personal analysis or synthesis into articles, as you did at Ten Lost Tribes, you may be blocked from editing. Doug Weller talk 08:09, 31 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Z33 Huldra (talk) 22:08, 5 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Huldra: I've never even edited the page for this. Also, seriously? That little warning lede isn't fooling me. I put it the history of Nablusi soap and suddenly I'm a disruptor? I'm a propaganda machine?

I know who you are. I've seen your edit history, and I've seen how you deal with anyone who disagrees with your political views. I'm not going for it. Where the hell do you people get off, I swear. Zhomron (talk) 22:23, 5 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

As the text says: "It does not imply that there are any issues with your contributions to date." It is a standard template for anyone showing an interest in the IP-area on en.wp, thank you, Huldra (talk) 22:49, 5 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Please read no personal attacks. Doug Weller talk 19:14, 30 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

1RR

You have already broken the WP:1RR on Nabulsi soap‎, in addition to the fact that you shouldn't edit it at all, (as you do not have 500 edits yet), Please do not repeat that.

If you do; WP:AE is next, Huldra (talk) 23:02, 5 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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@Toddst1: Understood, but how would I go about citing them considering there are no direct citations on the pages themselves? Do I just pop something on the talk page and direct people there in an edit summary? Zhomron (talk) 17:00, 30 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
If you don't have a source, don't add it. Consider tagging it on the linked page as [citation needed] or if it's a WP:DOB issue, immediately remove it. Toddst1 (talk) 18:23, 30 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Toddst1: My point is I have sources. How am I citing them on a page with no citations Zhomron (talk) 18:54, 30 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, Just add the source like you would in any other article. All of the DOTY pages have at least a few sources at this point. Here's the background:
The Days of Years (DOTY) pages were becoming a complete mess with incorrect and unverifiable info so things have changed so that all new entries require a direct source.
The DOTY project had exempted themselves from verifiability. As a result, almost none of the pages had any sources to back things up, based on the naive (and against Wikipedia policy) belief that all entries would be backed by reliable sources in the linked article. It turns out that was not the case and the DOTY pages were filled with incorrect info and even worse, other places started believing the info there and publishing the incorrect info in newspapers, for example on "Today's date in history" type listings.
So about two years ago the DOTY project took the bold step of requiring that all new entries be backed by direct reliable sources. Several of us have gone through and started cleaning things up. May 11 is an example of where we want to be. For details see the content guideline, the WikiProject Days of the Year style guide or the edit notice on any DOY page.
We could use your help in:
  1. Preventing new entries that don't include direct sources and when they occur, either supplement them with a reliable source or reverting them.
  2. Heling us clean up articles. The project members have asked all participants to go through their birthday and clean the entries up by adding reliable sources to each entry, or removing entries where reliable sources aren't readily available.
I hope this helps. Toddst1 (talk) 19:34, 30 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It's core policy that citation needed tags should not be removed without adding a source

I did look for one at Zoara but the map there says possible only. After I reverted you I deleted the problematic text and posted to the talk page. Doug Weller talk 19:13, 30 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Doug Weller: Aiiie.... my mistake. TFLMK Zhomron (talk) 19:18, 30 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, some good may have come out of it that wouldn't have otherwise if it can be sourced. And someone who knows more than I do may make sure we spell the city names consistently. Doug Weller talk 19:21, 30 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft article, Draft:Cursive Samaritan Hebrew

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Cave of the Patriarchs

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Hello, Zhomron, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Unfortunately, one or more of your recent edits to the page Moloch did not conform to Wikipedia's verifiability policy, and may have been removed. Wikipedia articles should refer only to facts and interpretations verified in reliable, reputable print or online sources or in other reliable media. Always provide a reliable source for quotations and for any material that is likely to be challenged, or it may be removed. Wikipedia also has a related policy against including original research in articles.

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Cave of the Patriarchs historicty

The fact that Abraham, and his immediate relations, have no evidence of being actual people in history means they have no bones and SOMEWHERE in this article it must be mentioned. So where? The lede would be best. We are not to deceive the readership into thinking the crypt contains bones of people that didn't exist. Alatari (talk) 02:59, 5 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]