User talk:Astoriaaldrich

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Also, editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. Thank you. Lemonaka (talk) 14:42, 31 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

December 2022

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Please ensure you are familiar with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines, and please do not continue to make edits that appear disruptive. Continued disruptive editing may result in loss of editing privileges. Thank you. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 17:51, 31 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The information you are providing on the article is false. That’s why I keep correcting it. Astoriaaldrich (talk) 01:51, 1 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

On the contrary, the text was quite accurate before you tried to impose changes. William Backhouse Astor Sr.'s wife Margaret Rebecca Armstrong was a Livingston (through her mother), one of their granddaughters—Margaret Astor Ward—married John Winthrop Chanler (a descendant of the Bayard and Stuvyesant families), and another granddaughter—Helen Schermerhorn Astor—married James Roosevelt Roosevelt. This shows the family connection listings are valid no matter how much you try to insist otherwise. While Ward and Chanler's daughter Margaret Livingston Chanler did marry Richard Aldrich, the fact that the Aldrich family doesn't have a page means his family isn't something to add. The Websters similarly cannot be added without a page no matter who from the family wed into this one. I'm not sure where you came up with the other names, but unless you can demonstrate how they married an Astor, they just feel like arbitrary additions at best. If you can show evidence for those, then a better idea would be to add them along with the previously listed names, not replacing those. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 04:04, 1 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It’s not accurate, sorry. Not sure where you’re getting your information. As well, where do you think they came from before coming to Europe and then America. Original Astors are extremely ethnic. Something is wrong here. Astoriaaldrich (talk) 04:22, 1 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I’ll just fix it again when available. Thanks Astoriaaldrich (talk) 04:23, 1 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Just because there isn’t a link to the page doesn’t mean they “don’t belong “. That sounds incredibly classist Astoriaaldrich (talk) 04:24, 1 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

To give some samples, the Livingston connection can be shown here and in M.L. Chanler's memior Family Vista. This talks about how she and her brother Robert are descended from Peter Stuyvesant. There's also The Saint Nicholas Society of the City of New York (1905) showing a family connection to Stuyvesant and his wife Judith Bayard. Helen's proof of marrying a Roosevelt was written in The New York Times. I apologize for coming off as classist for including/excluding names based on whether they have Wiki pages, but you're free to create articles on the families (assuming good references can be found), and calling someone "extremely ethnic" or even simply "ethnic" is an unhelpfully vague description as there are many different ethnicities that exist. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 04:48, 1 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It doesn’t matter if they married them. It does not make them connected. I don’t think you understand how that works. Being a Webster, Rothschild, Rockefeller, and Astor myself this is Getting to be incredibly trying. Astors are by origin, African at the root. This was something that was hidden along with their Jewish faith because of the Nazis. Lots of complicated and deep history someone from the outside finding half facts of the internet would not know or understand hence MY changes of fixing the article with the truth but obviously you’re not interested in that. Hopefully people don’t look to Wikipedia for my families biography and go to another place because it is a complete set of blatant lies. Astoriaaldrich (talk) 14:21, 1 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]