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? Gog the Mild (talk) 21:04, 4 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Blocked. They've been up to the same thing for quite a while now without logging in - making little changes to figures at all sorts of different articles. Always unsourced, sometimes plausible, sometimes obviously wrong. Sneaky vandalism. Girth Summit (blether) 20:36, 8 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The Special Barnstar
People actually opposed at your RfA because they thought your username was ... (shakes his head) Some folks just bloody well need to grow up, and you deserve a barnstar not only for your admin work, but your grace in not erupting at the cementheads. Ravenswing 00:24, 8 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! I actually considered changing it at the time, because I didn't want it to be a source of drama, but a lot of people told me they liked it (like, significantly more of them than the people who had a problem with it). Plus, Girth really was my real-life nickname - it's not anymore, I've changed careers and cities since, but when I created the account it was what all my buddies at work called me routinely. I'm not blind to the alternative meanings of the word but, really - I've worked with people called Dick before, and I managed to get through our encounters without breaking down into fits of giggles. Girth Summit (blether) 00:36, 8 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Had a coworker named Richard Dick. Honestly his parents should be shot. Valereee (talk) 01:29, 8 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The Dicks were an important Edinburgh family, going back to the seventeenth century and probably earlier. There are still quite a few things named after them, like the Dick Vets. I'm not aware of any of them having been called Richard though - do you think your colleague's parents did it for a bet? Girth Summit (blether) 10:07, 8 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I think he might have been like Richard Dick III. The triumph of tradition over good sense. A friend's older brother was named Phillip R. Studebaker. My mom had students named Melody Singer and Chime Clock. Honestly, people who should have had a puppy before they had a child so they could get it out of their system. Valereee (talk) 12:10, 8 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, man, this is bringing back memories...I'm pretty sure my friend told us his parents considered naming him Park R. Studebaker but by that time they'd developed some sense. Valereee (talk) 12:14, 8 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I had to Google what a Studebaker was - he'd probably been have alright on this side of the pond, but I see what you mean now! Girth Summit (blether) 13:10, 8 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
When I was an au pair in the UK long ago, "my" two adorable little boys were called Austin and Morris. Piping, as otherwise it may not mean much to American readers. True story, unlike Valereee's obviously made-up Richard Dick and Chime Clock. Bishonen | tålk 20:53, 8 December 2022 (UTC).[reply]
That one I got without needing to click on the links! Girth Summit (blether) 20:54, 8 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
When I was at primary school (as a child, before I was a teacher), we were all in awe of the deputy head. His name on the door was written like this: Mr E Powers. Was he a superhero? An evil villain? We never found out... Girth Summit (blether) 20:56, 8 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Lol on Austin and Morris. A dim bell would have rung for me on Austin-Morris? And those were not made up! I graded papers for my mom when I was a teenager. I saw the names! Valereee (talk) 21:30, 8 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
OMG, I'm remembering another one. Krista Chanda Lear. I might be spelling it wrong but I swear it was the name of a child my mother taught. We decided it wasn't as bad as Melody Singer and Chime Clock because without the middle name you didn't see what they'd done. Valereee (talk) 21:35, 8 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The mind boggles. Girth Summit (blether) 21:50, 8 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Mom had probably the entire town go through one of her classes between 1970 and 2000; the school system had a "kindergarten village" setup so every kid funneled in for a year, then out to probably three or four elementary schools. It was an interesting look into the life of a small (well, currently 55K population) town. Valereee (talk) 21:56, 8 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Oh the stories I could tell of the drummer in my high school rock band whose last name was "Kuntz." Cheers, all. Dumuzid (talk) 22:09, 8 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
What do you call a drummer with no girlfriend? Valereee (talk) 22:11, 8 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Leaving outlandish names to one side, what I find interesting about children's names is the ones that have dropped out of fashion, but which are still very common amongst adults. I started my teacher training in 2014 - in that time, I have never once worked at a school that had any of the following names on the register: David, Stephen, Paul, Philip, James, Laura, Jane, Margaret, Susan, Sarah, Claire... the list goes on. And only one John. On the other hand, when I was a kid, I would have thought 'Oliver' was fairly unusual, but almost all of the classes I have taught have had an Oliver in them, and quite a lot have had two. I once had a class with three Olivers. Girth Summit (blether) 22:11, 8 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
This is a fascinating phenomenon for me as well, though it may stem from the fact that I was blessed/cursed with a strange old family name that I generally have to repeat many times whenever I meet someone new. Dumuzid (talk) 22:19, 8 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
My mother once had a schoolmate named Mary Christmas … My parents’ first choice of a forename for me was John, but since my middle name had already been decided to be Thomas, after a family friend, they thought better of it and went with another common/traditional forename from your list. (Probably wouldn’t have been much of a problem, on this side of the pond, but I remain grateful anyway.) BTW regarding your name-explanation page, the English word for a sanctuary is usually spelt grith, and appears to have a separate etymology. Perhaps it was conflated with girth in Scots by a converse metathesis to that that produced frith from firth.—Odysseus1479 22:56, 8 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
That's very interesting! Are you a linguist? If you can point at any useful sources, I'd be interested to read them, and maybe add a bit to the page. Girth Summit (blether) 23:00, 8 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
No, unless having followed for a time some linguistics groups on Usenet is a qualification. ;) And I don’t have any good secondary source, just dictionaries. My favourite portal for looking up English words is onelook.com, whence I most often go to the Collins or etymonline.com links. I note the Scots dictionary you already cite relates Sc. girth to O.N. grið & O.E. griþ; the latter would naturally be spelt grith now. The ‘encircling’ words (gird, girdle, girth &c.) are apparently related to O.N. gyrða & O.E. gyrdan. Going back further, however, they do seem to have a common PIE root, along with cohort, court, garden, garth, horticulture, yard &c.—Odysseus1479 00:16, 13 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
In particular names that go definitely out of style are interesting. The fact Lily, Claire, Emma go out and come back in, fine. But why does Bertha go out for good? Valereee (talk) 23:12, 8 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I've actually taught quite a few Lilys Lilies girls called Lily, and a couple of Emmas, but zero Claires or Berthas. My grandmothers were called Gertrude and Winnifred - I guess those names got culled by the last generation, they're pretty rare amongst adults too. Girth Summit (blether) 23:23, 8 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I have three brothers (Jeremiah, Gabriel, and Micah) and four sisters (Sarai, Jael, Atarah, and Zemira). Not extremely common names but neither is mine. --ARoseWolf 13:38, 9 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Socks?

Hi, it looks to me like GhostlyOperative, with whom you had some interaction about WP:LOUTSOCK last May, and WaterIguana are likely the same person. Same interests, same editing platforms, same problem with edit-warring, same problem with Wikiboo02, who just brought a report at WP:AN3 against WaterIguana. What do you think?--Bbb23 (talk) 01:43, 9 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

They are indeed the same person, and they have not stopped LOUTSOCKING. I feel a block coming on. Girth Summit (blether) 12:39, 9 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, I'm glad I gave you something to do other than discuss your name and various other names. :p Any reason why you didn't tag the socks?--Bbb23 (talk) 12:56, 9 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Erm - what do you call that muddle-headed feeling that is half way between laziness and forgetfulness? Girth Summit (blether) 12:58, 9 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I dunno, too many variables I don't know. Is it pleasant or unpleasant? If the former, who cares what you call it; if the latter, take a nap.--Bbb23 (talk) 13:03, 9 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

TheOwnkingAyush

Just wondering if there's a range that could be hardblocked here. If the first iteration weren't already trolling, this is possibly a child with too much time on his hands, and he may not have access to unlimited ranges. Vanamonde (Talk) 19:23, 13 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

They'rlve edited from just two ranges; they started off on one, and then moved to another, so range blocks might be effective. There are other editors on them, but not huge numbers - I'll take another look tomorrow and consider it. Girth Summit (blether) 21:03, 13 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! Vanamonde (Talk) 21:14, 13 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Mm. One of the ranges is a fairly quiet IPv4/20, which could probably be hardblocked without too much collateral, but the other is IPv6/36 (or possibly a couple of /44s within that wider range), and much busier. They've only been using the IPv4 this month, so I would probably block that if they persist, but I'd hesitate to block the IPv6 unless the level of disruption increased - as it is, they're kind of making themselves obvious and tidying up after them isn't too much of a burden, and it's not like there is any harassment involved. Cheers Girth Summit (blether) 07:14, 14 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Fair enough; I feel like I'd block the IPv4 range just to encourage them to find other pursuits, but I agree there's no harassment here. Vanamonde (Talk) 16:12, 14 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I just took another look at the range, and there's been no activity from them since 10 December - I don't think it's worth blocking, but I've made some notes on cuwiki about the ranges involved, so if they do come back in bit it should be easy enough to identify them. Cheers Girth Summit (blether) 18:51, 15 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Makes sense, thank you! Vanamonde (Talk) 20:13, 15 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Stavros Halkias

Hi, hope you've been well these past three months. On cue, the Stavros Halkias edit war begins anew. Brycehughes (talk) 05:38, 14 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

They were socking - indeffed. Girth Summit (blether) 07:04, 14 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Cheers, thanks. Brycehughes (talk) 07:07, 14 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Previous disruptive editor

After seeing this edit (from another IP range that Defeedme is using), I'm ready to ask for talk page protection on my own talk page. I don't think I've ever received a useful talk page message from an unregistered user anyway. Does 3 months seem reasonable? Wes sideman (talk) 13:14, 15 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I've applied semi for a month in the first instance - hopefully they'll get bored and go away. Girth Summit (blether) 18:47, 15 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
That'll probably do it. Thanks. Wes sideman (talk) 20:25, 15 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Season's Greetings

Hello Girth Summit: Enjoy the holiday season and winter solstice if it's occurring in your area of the world, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Wikipedia. Cheers, Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 21:32, 18 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Seasons greetings!

Ohara Shoson (Koson), Egrets in Snow, Ohara Koson, 1927
Ohara Shoson (Koson), Egrets in Snow, Ohara Koson, 1927
 Have a wonderful holiday season
filled with peace, joy, prosperity and wonder.

Hi Girth Summit, Thank you for all your contributions during the year, and for keeping things running smoothly around here! Your work is appreciated, and I was glad to meet you.
May your 2023 be filled with creativity and good health.
Image: Egrets in Snow, Ohara Koson, 1927

Netherzone (talk) 22:41, 18 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Merry Christmas!

Merry Christmas, Girth Summit

Or Season's Greetings or Happy Winter Solstice!
As the year winds to a close, I would like to take a moment to
recognize your hard work and offer heartfelt gratitude for all you do for Wikipedia.
May this Holiday Season bring you and yours nothing but joy, health and prosperity.
Onel5969 TT me 20:07, 20 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Happy Christmas

Merry Christmas, Girth Summit

or whatever else you may celebrate at this time of year.

Thank you for all your work on Wikipedia throughout the year

and may 2023 prove to be a happy and successful year for you and your family

Josey Wales Parley 20:07, 22 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Seasons Greetings

Whatever you celebrate at this time of year, whether it's Christmas or some other festival, I hope you and those close to you have a happy, restful time! Have fun, Donner60 (talk) 00:16, 23 December 2022 (UTC)}} [reply]

Donner60 (talk) 23:44, 23 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Season's greetings

Happy Christmas
Wishing you and your family a Happy Holiday Season, and best wishes for the New Year! Thank you for all you do. Whispyhistory (talk) 16:54, 24 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Happy Holidays!

Hello Girth_Summit : Enjoy the holiday season and winter solstice if it's occurring in your area of the world, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Wikipedia. Cheers, RV (talk) 02:25, 25 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello Girth Summit: Enjoy the holiday season and winter solstice if it's occurring in your area of the world, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Wikipedia. Cheers, CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 17:24, 25 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 17:24, 25 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Happy Holidays

Happy Holidays
Hello, I wish you the very best during the holidays. And I hope you have a very happy 2023! Bruxton (talk) 17:59, 25 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Another Sockpuppet of Jomontgeorge is found

Hello @Girth Summit: this user RealAspects is a sockpuppet of user Jomontegeorge. Please see Talk:Pooja Hedge for further information. This user is also making similar edits and this account was created on December 2022. I am not able to report since I m an IP editor. 2001:8F8:1825:A94F:50A0:907F:B3C9:15B (talk) 12:43, 28 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You are able to report - you just need to log into your account to do it. Girth Summit (blether) 16:03, 28 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Talk page access

Talk page access for this user (blocked by you back in July) should probably be removed at this point, since they keep returning to make pointless comments, and this week, has has started to make (1) unsubstantiated claims (2) that other blocked users are the same sockpuppeteer due to their "tests". It's all bogus crap as the "tests" they claim to have run are just links to random wiki articles and policies that use words they want to emphasize, or are links to diffs of admin edits blocking random users. Notifying you since you were the blocking admin for this user. Zinnober9 (talk) 06:17, 30 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Wikipedia sockpuppets of cu confirmed on enwiki to मेरानामनिलेश, who is locked.

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Thanks Liz - please go ahead and delete, I think I typed a comment into the wrong box in the SPI helper script there! Girth Summit (blether) 10:38, 31 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Happy New Year!

Girth Summit,
Thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia, and a Happy New Year to you and yours! CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 22:59, 31 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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When I am SPI suspicious...

but when I cannot identify the master, as in this editor, what process should I use, please? 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 11:42, 1 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This one os likely best treated as an example, for their trajectory looks as though they will soon be indeffed for behaviour 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 21:18, 1 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Happy New Year, Girth Summit!

Happy New Year!

Girth Summit,
Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia.
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They're back

[1] Actually, they are being less disruptive than previously, although see their edit warring here. Gog the Mild (talk) 21:08, 2 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Gog the Mild: none of these links work. Seasider53 (talk) 21:11, 2 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Drat! Gog the Mild (talk) 21:18, 2 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Sock?

Back in October last year, you blocked User:Mr vili for sockpuppetry. Would the overlap of interests shown by this new account seem likely to be rather more than coincidental to you, as they do to me? AndyTheGrump (talk) 08:10, 3 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @AndyTheGrump. Could you please explain how our accounts overlap besides being involved in the same WikiProject? I haven't looked at Mr Vili's contributions so far. I don't think you are assuming good faith HeliosSunGod (talk) 08:21, 3 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
How did you come across Draft:Network State without looking at Mr Vili's contributions? As for 'being involved in the same Wikiproject', said Wikiproject seems to attract almost nothing but socks and random newly-created accounts with no significant editing history. Are you sure you want to be associated with it? AndyTheGrump (talk) 08:31, 3 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
You are acting as if Network State is a concept created by Mr Vili... No it is not. I discovered the page, when I linked to it via Wikipedia:WikiProject Autonomous Zones/Sandbox finding that it already existed, so therefore I added the wikiproject banner to it's talk page, and marked it as a draft article. HeliosSunGod (talk) 08:37, 3 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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