User talk:StopSayingMyth

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Happy editing! Justi yaya 18:39, 22 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure if this is an automated message or actually hand written but either way thank you for this. These links will prove helpful I am sure. Thanks again StopSayingMyth (talk) 18:41, 22 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome messages are done by template, we don't really handtype them for every account, but mostly only real users (not bots) put welcome templates on user talk pages, so I am a real human :D noticed the teahouse thread and decided to leave a message, good luck here and yeah the links helped a lot when I was starting editing Justi yaya 18:45, 22 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Glad to know there are some kind people on this site. Thanks for taking the time to welcome me.

I am sadly experiencing a lot of discrimination and bias right now on the Hindu mythology page and debating whether I want to continue with this community....Is there anyone who can be contacted about this? StopSayingMyth (talk) 18:52, 22 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

No, it is not discrimination nor bias, as established at the bottom of the page, we do the same for other religions too. The relevant policy is WP:COMMONNAME which establishes that the most commonly used name for a subject should be the article title, which is the case in this situation. I do not believe there is any issue in relation with the article title. Any resolution concurring with your argument is highly unlikely. I suggest that you drop the issue and work on other aspects of the encyclopedia (see WP:Task). Justi yaya 19:11, 22 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Well systemic discrimination is worse. I hope all people can stop being demeaned at some point but for now all I can do is try to cause change on the pages that are important to me. Hopefully more of us will stop being initimidated by the cleanliness of this site and it can be more like a community and less of people in higher places enforcing discrimination "equally". StopSayingMyth (talk) 19:20, 22 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is a community. That's why things are decided via consensus. You're welcome to try and establish consensus to change the names of all those pages from "mythology" to "stories". But your solitary opinion that it should be changed, regardless of whatever reason you believe it should, is not going to be enough. WPscatter ^t/_c 19:38, 22 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hey a reasonable response wow. Glad to see this. Thank you for your understanding. I suppose then this is a very good goal you have described, to try to establish consensus among the people on this site and get the word changed. I have been calm, civil, and looking for unity since I arrived and I will continue to pursue this goal in the same manner. I think no one should be discriminated against, even those we don't like. StopSayingMyth (talk) 20:52, 22 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Keep in mind, @StopSayingMyth, that part of civil discussion is to acknowledge when you've lost the battle and stop belaboring the point. WPscatter ^t/_c 21:17, 22 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Who are you to tell someone what to do? I will decide what I believe and maybe you can decide to learn how to treat others. Sorry I have to link the articles for you to take me seriously as a human being. Might I suggest starting with Love, Kindness, Respect, and your favorite Gaslighting. StopSayingMyth (talk) 21:28, 22 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

June 2023

Welcome to Wikipedia. I noticed that your username, "StopSayingMyth", may not meet Wikipedia's username policy. If you believe that your username does not violate our policy, please leave a note here explaining why. As an alternative, you may ask for a change of username by completing the form at Special:GlobalRenameRequest, or you may simply create a new account for editing. Thank you.

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— DaxServer (t · m · e · c) 19:48, 22 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

If the notifier has not provided a reason for the violation then I do not need to provide a reason to defend myself. Please dismiss this biased complaint, thank you StopSayingMyth (talk) 20:54, 22 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It doesn't violate any username policy, but it does betray your intent as a single purpose account and you will likely be blocked soon because you keep pushing the same point that you have been repeatedly told is nonsense. WPscatter ^t/_c 21:15, 22 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

If it doesn't violate any username policy than maybe you should go get some fresh air instead of obsessing over me and my username choices ;) StopSayingMyth (talk) 21:26, 22 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Yama. This means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be although other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

Points to note:

Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made;
Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.

If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes and work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you engage in an edit war, you may be blocked from editing. 199.208.172.35 (talk) 21:37, 22 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This is your only warning; if you make personal attacks on others again, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. Comment on content, not on other contributors or people. Acroterion (talk) 23:53, 22 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Can I please have a link to where I personally attacked someone? I want to know what is considered personal attacks as every community has a different definition. Thank you StopSayingMyth (talk) 23:59, 22 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

== WP:ANI notification ==

Please see the discussion I started at the administrators' noticeboard regarding your conduct. Feel free to respond there. Abecedare (talk) 22:00, 22 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for notifying me. As long as there is a discussion going and my points have not been refuted I will continue to post. There is nothing "warring" about continuing the discussion and trying to reach consensus. If I am warring then so too are the people who are reporting my username, responding as often as me, and trying to demean my position as if I don't deserve to continue speaking just because they as a group disagree. StopSayingMyth (talk) 22:16, 22 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your points have been refuted, several times. "Myth" is not a discriminatory word and you will not convince any other editors that it is. Just because you keep pretending they didn't refute you doesn't mean it didn't happen. It is long past time to drop the stick and at this point it's simply a matter of how long it takes an admin to notice before you're blocked from editing (especially considering the repeated personal attacks). WPscatter ^t/_c 23:15, 22 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

All you have done is attempt to gaslight me. No examples, argument structure, premise, or conclusions. Stop harassing me and give a real point or I shall call admins on you.

Here is my argument clear and simple

Premise 1: Myth can be used in a demeaning way

Premise 2: We should not use demeaning words if synonyms are available

Premise 3: Many many many synonyms are available which do not demean

Conclusion: The word myth needs to be updated

But since you don't care about my argument you only care to try and attack and manipulate me personally I will give you this perspective also

Premise 1: If you are demeaning people you will react in a demeaning way to criticism

Premise 2: I have criticized your position and you have attempted to demean me

Conclusion: your entire position revolves around putting others down

Both my arguments are true. I will wait for your well structured and definitely not harassing replies. Thank you and take care StopSayingMyth (talk) 23:49, 22 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

However irritated you are with other editors, personal attacks of the kind on display immediately above are not acceptable. You are being disagreed with. That does not give you license treat other editors the way you have done here. Acroterion (talk) 23:55, 22 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

What have I said that was a personal attack? They have started this business of insulting me and putting me down and I am asking them to stop this. This is a personal attack to tell someone they are harassing me? I genuinely do not see the issue here StopSayingMyth (talk) 00:02, 23 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Whether you think so or not, your conduct toward other users, especially on this talkpage, has been consistently hostile. That will not win any arguments, and if you do not reconsider your treatment of those who disagree with you, you will lose editing privileges. Acroterion (talk) 00:05, 23 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I am hostile when others are hostile. Do you plan to ban them also or only me? StopSayingMyth (talk) 00:06, 23 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You're being disagreed with. You aren't being attacked, and your behavior is what stands out from the outside.I recommend that you take a break, take a walk, do something other than sit at a keyboard for a while. Acroterion (talk) 00:10, 23 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yes thank you I may do that soon. My wife is telling me my face is getting too red haha. But do you not believe others were trying to intimidate and being hostile towards me? I have feel that I have been very harassed today and that is why I have reacted in this strong manner. StopSayingMyth (talk) 00:12, 23 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Please tell me the appropriate response when I am dealing with harassment on the level you have observed. I am new to the site and unable to defend myself and that makes me an easy target for biased people. StopSayingMyth (talk) 00:10, 23 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You aren't entitled to retaliate to something that you perceive as a slight. You cannot expect to win arguments every time, however much you believe int eh rightness of your views. In particular, you are not entitled to treat the encycloepdia project as a battleground, nor may you treat other editors as opponents to be overcome or defeated. You are expected to yield to consensus with as much grace as you can muster, or if you can't, to disengage. Acroterion (talk) 00:13, 23 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Indefinite block

You have been blocked indefinitely from editing for disruptive editing and WP:BATTLEGROUND conduct to excess. I'll be blunt: for some reason, you seem to lack the required competence to realize that Hindu stories isn't a thing in the scholarship, and that the 'mythology' in Hindu mythology is the prevailing convention, overall (i.e. Buddhist mythology, Jewish mythology, Christian mythology, etc.). In your short time here, in pursuit of this singular idea, you have managed to attack multiple editors, accusing them of gaslighting, personal manipulation, being demeaning, being discriminatory, and more, all entirely without basis. If you are truly serious in contributing to the English Wikipedia, you will need to prove that you are up to the task (certainly beyond the raison d'etre of "mythology" somehow being offensive/discriminatory, and somehow, just for Hinduism), which includes being WP:CIVIL. Because, as it stands, you are WP:NOTCOMPATIBLE with this collaborative project.

If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text at the bottom of your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}. El_C 00:24, 23 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

UTRS appeal #75158

is closed. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 01:13, 23 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Noting ANI discussion -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 01:21, 23 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

IMHO, the user name says it all. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 01:22, 23 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

My username is not related to the validity and sincerity of my appeal StopSayingMyth (talk) 01:29, 23 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Please reopen this appeal for others to judge for themselves StopSayingMyth (talk) 01:29, 23 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]