User talk:Giggy/Archive/January 2009

Acid2 FAC

Happy new year! I decided to nominate Acid2 as a featured article again: Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Acid2. —Remember the dot ^(talk) 00:53, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

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Happy New Year!

Dear Giggy,

Wishing you a happy new year, and very best wishes for 2009. Whether we were friends or not in the past year, I hope 2009 will be better for us both.

Kind regards,

Majorly talk 21:02, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

Happy New Year!

Dear Giggy, I hope you had a wonderful New Year's Day, and that 2009 brings further success and happiness! ~ YellowMonkey (bananabucket) 03:57, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks again Giggy for all off your hard work at FAC. Here is some fuel from my tree to keep you firing in the new year! YellowMonkey (bananabucket) 03:57, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

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WP:AUS and the Australian cricket team

I see a correlation between the Australian cricket team and the slowing up of WP:AUS

• McGrath <-> Casliber (bird lovers)
• Adam Gilchrist <-> Giggy (dashers with the same initials AG)
• Shane Warne <-> Mattinbgn (Victorian and cricket)

• All have slowed down on the FAs dramatically in recent times and they stopped writing FAs in the same chronological order as the cricketers have retired. Warne-McGrath-Gilchrist and Mattinbgn-Casliber-Giggy as far as Aussie FAs. And, we've started struggling without them. Giggy also has a habit of walking from the crease as well. YellowMonkey (bananabucket) 04:33, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Had to add the last part. YellowMonkey (bananabucket) 04:33, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

I would make something to do with you were I a cricket fanboy, but for now all I can offer is the occasional flurry of edits. Besides, Gilchrist doesn't walk away from the crease often, does he? Giggy (talk) 04:34, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

A few times every year he does it because the umpire mistakenly thought he was not out. YellowMonkey (bananabucket) 04:37, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

List_of_cricket_terms#W - also see the lead of Gilly's FA. YellowMonkey (bananabucket) 04:39, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Impressive! Giggy (talk) 04:42, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

4chan

Hey, Giggy. I'm sure you know 4chan is scheduled to be January 14's TFA, and evidence of the inevitable vandalism is starting to surface at various talk pages (User talk:SandyGeorgia for example). If the vandalism starts to show up on your talk page, let me know and I'll semi-protect it. Cheers, –Juliancolton ^{Tropical Cyclone} 18:07, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

It is going surprisingly well actually. I suspect it will end up protected again by the time it hits TFA, so I wouldn't worry too much. It is being watched, so if anything bad happens it should get protected right away. Prodego ^talk 01:52, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

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Holla

Just saying hi. Don't take off for long again. WesleyDodds (talk) 21:10, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Its good to have you back, man. NSR77 ^T 00:40, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Hah, no worries. I don't listen to their music nearly as much as I edit their articles. Only recently did I start getting into them again (basically the whole summer and fall I was not listening to them at all). Alas, I know everything about them so I might as well put my "knowledge" to good use. I saw you went to Austria! How was it? Europe is grand. NSR77 ^T 01:12, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

German beer is incredible (I can't imagine Austrian beer being too different?), but I'm a wine person myself. I try to stock up on bottles of wine from Italy and France because its far cheaper when you're not importing it from the United States. Europe is really funny because you go to different areas and there are all different popular ways of becoming un-sober. Now that you're back do you have any plans to work on an article? NSR77 ^T 01:23, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Hahaha. The funniest part is how I manage to get it past customs even though I'm almost two years under 21. US drinking laws blow, by the way. NSR77 ^T 01:45, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

I've always wanted to, but the ridiculous plane ride and the twelve hour time difference? Blah. That's not the most attractive of downsides. On another note, could you take a quick look at Mother's Milk? It's been at FAC for ages and not much movement has been going on. Anything at all would be fantastic. NSR77 ^T 02:01, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Good to see you are active again..welcome back ! -- Tinu Cherian - 13:31, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Welcome back, you were missed. - Dan Dank55 (send/receive) 14:30, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

P.S. Since you take time to explain what "Editnotice" means in your Editnotice, you might want to weigh in at Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)#Editnotice. - Dan Dank55 (send/receive) 17:26, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

4chan an FA and on the main page?! Do more like that, its very amusing. « ₣M₣ » 17:41, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Mind if I ask you for a favor? Can you make sure all the media in In Utero meets fair use guidelines before I take it to FAC? Thanks. WesleyDodds (talk) 07:24, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Danke

Hey there, friend. Thanks. Yeah, I'm back to my... let's say semi-full-time editing. As much drama as goes on on WP, not just have I managed to avoid it pretty much completely, but I'm still happy to contribute- the goal of this place is spreading all knowledge to all people, and I'm still 100% behind that. As far as the job... eh. I wasn't upset about getting fired- watching sports was fun, but everything else about the gig rated somewhere between "subpar" and "quite bad". The worse part is that I'm still unemployed, but my parents and pets are very happy to have me living at home for a while, and considering that I refuse to even apply for pretty much every job out there (since I refuse to do anything I won't enjoy, and there are few things I'll really enjoy), I'm not surprised I'm still without work. Things will turn around soon, I'm sure, and all will be well.

Catch me up, AG! How are things going? I hope life is treating you splendidly- you certainly deserve some splendid...ness. And you know, when I posted my comment on PeterSymonds's RfA about editors being jerks to oppose !voters, it didn't even occur to me that you were one of the people I was defending. Now I'm doubly glad I said what I said (even though I don't think anyone read it). -- Mike (Kicking222) 05:04, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

That is awesome. Much as I love sports, women, video games, and animals, music is probably my #1 passion in life. I've always wanted to be in music somehow, except I have no musical talent and haven't taken a journalism class since tenth grade. Still, I go to concerts as often as humanly possible (most recently, her and them (twice) and them and them for the fourth time) and read Idolator, Stereogum, etc. constantly... I'll have to add halo-17 to the list! Anyway, that's great- I'm wicked proud of you, and I'll be sure to read all of your work.

I've had a bit of a cold all day, so I need to go to sleep. Have a delightful evening. -- Mike (Kicking222) 05:28, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Haha, well I never wrote anything that had a byline, anyway. I mean, you could've followed along with the play-by-plays that I did, but that's about it. Regardless, I'm not broken up about it... did I love getting paid to watch sports? Of course. But while the job may have theoretically been the right job, it wasn't the right time or the right place or the right conditions. I hope your writing gig is all-around right (I mean, I'm sure the pay isn't great, but it's doing something you love to do, and that's what matters). -- Mike (Kicking222) 15:27, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

RFA

I noticed your recent comments to R'n'b's RFA asking people to give reasons for supporting. I don't see why you need a reason to support; it should be defeault position. IMO if you don't see any reason to oppose you support, not the other way around. We need more admins badly, seeing as how we have over 8 million users but only 950 or so active admins. Why do you think people need to give a reason to support?--Patton^t/c 16:52, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

We don't have 8 million users and I wish the devs would disable the {{NUMBEROFUSERS}} button so people would stop saying we do. We have 8 million registered accounts but most of those have never edited or have made one or two edits many years ago and nothing since; going by the criteria of "active editors" used for elections (at least 600 edits, with at least 50 in the last 5 months) we have a little under 10,000 active editors, making an admin:editor ratio of around 1:9. For what it's worth, I entirely agree with Giggy; if anything we currently have too many admins (if they were actually busy, they wouldn't waste so much time in petty drama) and given the current setup in which it's almost impossible to desysop a bad admin, we should only be promoting those who actually demonstrate a need and demonstrate their trustworthiness. Kurt may have been a PITA, but his point was valid; he just had a uniquely annoying way of saying it. – iridescent 18:33, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Agree with Patton - supporting is merely agreeing with the nom, and going with the flow. If you want to be against the flow, it makes sense to give a reason. We should not have to argue for someone to be promoted if the nom already has done so, or we just think it's a good idea. Questioning every single supporter like that helps nothing. Majorly talk 19:16, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Oh, I agree with you on that – I always read "Support~~~~" as "I have nothing more to add to what the nominator has said". Where I disagree is that the default position should be support; IMO the default in virtually every discussion should be "support the status quo" (so "oppose" at RFA, "keep" at AFD and "no change" at policy discussions, with the burden on the nominator in all three cases to make a case as to why the change in question would be an improvement. – iridescent 19:26, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

"Supporting is going with the flow". Eh? Who establishes this mythical flow, how, and why? No more reason why support should be the default rather than oppose. In fact, as there are already too many administrators, it makes slightly more sense to oppose by default. --Malleus Fatuorum 19:27, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

One of WP's core principles is "Assume Good Faith." To that end, I agree with Majorly, the default position should be support, not oppose. This is particularly true when dealing with people and their emotions. If I said, User:X I support you. That is generally enough for anybody, they might ask for more, but if more isn't forthcoming, nobody really cares. Now if I said, User:X you are an ass. That offends people and can hurt their feelings---which in turn means people are going to want to know why the other party thinks that way.---Balloonman ^PoppaBalloonCSD Survey Results 19:34, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

I can't believe you just said that Balloonman. ;-)[1] --Malleus Fatuorum 19:44, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

"there are already too many administrators" - citation needed :) The flow is established by the suggestion of nomination. In an ideal world, we would promote every active editor who hasn't vandalised or whatever. I like to think of that ideal world when voting, so of course I look to support, and believe that supporting should be the default, because I assume good faith - unless shown otherwise, then of course I will oppose. I kind of agree with Iridescent about it being the status quo, but considering it's a person we're talking about, I think differently with regards to RFAs. A proposed policy won't get upset if they fail to get implemented. An article on a band that released one album that gets deleted won't get upset (obviously, with BLP articles, we treat them differently). However, there is a person behind the screen name, and I like to think we are all nice people behind them. It should be no big deal (whether or not it is is another question), so I tend to have that view. Julian Colton wrote it best earlier - an oppose in a sea of supports will often dent the candidate's confidence needlessly, and will have a huge discussion underneath it. I don't disagree with opposing - I opposed someone just today - I just disagree with opposing so easily. Majorly talk 19:37, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

You opposed somebody, I better pay attention to whom... you don't oppose often ;-) {And what I've said to others holds true for you as well... am not holding any ill will towards anybody who opposes me.}---Balloonman ^PoppaBalloonCSD Survey Results 19:41, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Giggy, aren't you glad this is on your talkpage?
To Balloonman: That's misreading what I'm saying. "Oppose" isn't "I think you're an ass", it's "I don't think you're suitable for this particular task". It's no more insulting than being turned down at a job interview, unless specific opposers choose to personalise it.
Majorly: with Kurt gone, there aren't really any serial opposers (unless you count RyanGerbil's apparent bid to be the new Kurt). People like me, Malleus and Friday might oppose a lot (although as I've said to you before, really not all that often – you have 59 opposes in your history; I have 78; Malleus has 15) but I'll always give a – usually very lengthy – explanation as to why. – iridescent 19:45, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Wow was expecting this many tlak page stalkers. You seem to watch everything lol...anyway want to wait till Giggy logs in and answers.--Patton^t/c 20:03, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Its because when someone is disruptive, it normally goes to their talk page. :D Synergy 20:51, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

That's why Synergy's talk page has so many people watching it! :P Giggy (talk) 00:30, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Hahaha. Synergy 21:39, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Patton, you should read Wikipedia talk:Requests for adminship#"Badgering". I found MBisanz' comment there, and his subsequent support of Russ' RfA, amusing, and decided to test the waters (see my edit summary).
As to Patton's original statement, I'll simply say that I'm a status quo supporting sock puppet of Iridescent and I think Malleus is a donkey. Giggy (talk) 00:30, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

You see the difference there Patton between a seasoned wikiwarrior like Giggy and your average newbie? He said "I think Malleus is a donkey", not that "Malleus is a donkey". It's the sort of fine distinction that keeps wikilawyers in business. :lol: --Malleus Fatuorum 00:58, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

And calling Malleus a donkey is proof that Giggy isn't my sock, because I'm on the record as having called him an ass ;-)---Balloonman ^PoppaBalloonCSD Survey Results 01:29, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Only I may wikilawyer on this page, thank you very much. Giggy (talk) 01:30, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Has anyone called him a mule or a burro yet, or are those still available? Useight (talk) 01:33, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

They're both available. Go nuts. Giggy (talk) 01:34, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

But dick isn't, Jennevecia has that one reserved.---Balloonman ^PoppaBalloonCSD Survey Results 01:38, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

I think that was her especial favourite, yes. --Malleus Fatuorum 01:41, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

So basically, per Iridescent? Ah ok then. I completely disagree with you but can't be bothered to discuss it at the moment.--Patton^t/c 16:31, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

You even disagree that Malleus is a donkey!? Giggy (talk) 04:05, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Images section

Hey Giggy, I am doing something I had said I would never do again... try to get something to feature status. One of the concerns on the page is around the images, could you take a look and let us know what you think?---Balloonman ^PoppaBalloonCSD Survey Results 02:44, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

BTW thanks for your help with the FLC... I've been busy with the RfB, that I haven't had a chance to work on it for a while.---Balloonman ^PoppaBalloonCSD Survey Results 06:04, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Augie March

Dude,

Just in case you didn't know, Augie March is going through GA. I think I'm handling these issues pretty well, but if you have a spare moment and want to cast your eyes over my responses (it being my first time, and all), I'd be in your debt. This article building stuff is hard! Lankiveil ^{(speak to me)} 11:24, 20 January 2009 (UTC).

RfA thankspam

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Consensus

Hi Giggy. Just wanted to say this comment echoes my thoughts exactly, only much more eloquently that I ever could have put it. I don't actually support flagged revisions, but in the end the responsibility for the decision rests with the owners of the site. Any consultation done with the volunteers is a courtesy. As volunteer editors we are guests in someone else's playground. Thanks for reading my mind and expressing my thought much more clearly that I ever could. :-) Cheers, Mattinbgn\^talk 04:35, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

Nonsense, I am sure that there are at least two edits each year you can hang your hat on! :-) -- Mattinbgn\^talk 06:39, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

email

I emailed you, but I got an error message. Let me know if you got it. I had a question about one of the opposes on my RfB that was related to you.---Balloonman ^PoppaBalloonCSD Survey Results 17:04, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

resent---Balloonman ^PoppaBalloonCSD Survey Results 03:36, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Happy Giggy's (and others') Day!

Giggy has been identified as an almost awesome Wikipedian, and therefore, he's officially declared today as Giggy's day! For being almost awesome enough to have someone else declare his own day, and for not messing around with all this X's day silliness, enjoy being (one of the) star(s) of the day, Giggy! Best Wishes, Giggy (talk) 03:31, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

FAIL. Where's my star of the day Giggy? And why aren't I on your friends list?? I'll give you a barnstar if you add me! Majorly talk 03:36, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

OMG... what is this MySpace! "I'll give you a barnstar if your friend me!" ;-)---Balloonman ^PoppaBalloonCSD Survey Results 03:37, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Your revealing of personal information

Hi Giggy,

I thought you might be interested in this comment about your revealing personal information.---Balloonman ^PoppaBalloonCSD Survey Results 06:58, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

RfA thanks

Thank you for voting in my RfA, which passed with 80 support, 2 oppose, and 1 neutral. I appreciate all the comments I received and will endeavor to justify the trust the community has placed in me. R'n'B (call me Russ) 21:33, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

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Okay, in return for you gracing us with your presence again. I said I would publish my short list on the matter. So here it is. Trusilver 06:52, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

WSOP Logo

Hey Giggy, On one of the FLC requests, I got push back on using File:World Series of Poker logo.png. I just took a closer look at it, and it appears to be a valid rationale in my book, but looks like we need to create a box for every page it's on? Am I reading it correctly?---Balloonman ^PoppaBalloon 08:11, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

That's correct. Giggy (talk) 09:37, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Danke---you are my image go to guy!---Balloonman ^PoppaBalloon 05:44, 27 January 2009 (UTC)