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Voepass Linhas Aéreas Flight 2283
Blurb: Voepass Linhas Aéreas Flight 2283 crashes in São Paulo, Brazil, killing all 62 people on board (Post)
News source(s): G1 Globo CNN
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- Nominated by RandomInfinity17 (talk · give credit)
RD: Kevin Sullivan (wrestler)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Wrestlezone
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- Nominated by 240F:7A:6253:1:BC2A:8EA5:908C:9F2A (talk · give credit)
- Updated by MIDI (talk · give credit) and Speakfor23 (talk · give credit)
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- Not Ready for the usual reason. This one is in rough shape is going to need some work to get it up to scratch. -Ad Orientem (talk) 16:30, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
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RD: Issa Hayatou
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC, Reuters
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- Nominated by 240F:7A:6253:1:1131:B696:A25D:A8D (talk · give credit)
- Updated by TheBigJagielka (talk · give credit)
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- Oppose - Sports career and Administrative career sections are entirely uncited. The Kip (contribs) 07:38, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
RD: Chi Chi Rodriguez
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NYT PGATour
Credits:
- Nominated by Staraction (talk · give credit)
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
- Not Ready for the usual reason. -Ad Orientem (talk) 15:59, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
RD: Kalatiku Paembonan
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): https://toraja.inews.id/read/477729/mantan-bupati-toraja-utara-kalatiku-paembonan-meninggal-dunia-selamat-jalan-putra-terbaik-toraja
Credits:
- Updated and nominated by Jeromi Mikhael (talk · give credit)
Article updated
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- Support. Article structure seems okay to me. 🛧Midori No Sora♪🛪 ( ☁=☁=✈) 02:41, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support No major issues. -Ad Orientem (talk) 16:01, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
RD: Jack Karlson
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Guardian
Credits:
- Nominated by The C of E (talk · give credit)
- Updated by TheLoyalOrder (talk · give credit) and GreenC (talk · give credit)
Article updated
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- Strong oppose and suggest close, he doesn't have his own Wikipedia article. 🔥Jalapeño🔥 Stupid stuff I did 12:46, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Jalapeño: There is precidence for this when we ran Barry Chuckle who also didn't have his own individual page. The C of E God Save the King! (talk) 13:00, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose
Individuals who do not have their own article but who have significant coverage on an article about a group (e.g. one member of a musical group) are eligible for a recent deaths entry on a case-by-case basis.
This is not one of those cases since this is not a group like the other one was.
- Noah, BSBATalk 13:20, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support - the article is effectively about him since he's the central figure of the whole meme. Karlson's name is even bolded in in the article. — Knightoftheswords 14:52, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose Per above, does not meet the criteria for WP:ITNRD. Estreyeria (talk) 15:00, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support He is the entirety of what appears in the video. Celjski Grad (talk) 15:02, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support Karlson is the central person of the topic. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 16:39, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose even taken into account that the central figure of the video is this person and that there us no standalone for him, the coverage of him in this article as a person is trivially short and indicates that he had little notability, the video itself was. Masem (t) 19:26, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support Despite this individual not meeting the criteria set forth in WP:ITNRD does not mean his death cannot be mentioned. BLP protections apply to the page for which he’s mentioned in, and we should make consideration for slightly modifying the requirement mentioned above around “groups”, eg: “groups or cultural icons (memes)”. Hide the Pain Harold definitely needs a RD (when the time comes). Kcmastrpc (talk) 21:56, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- BLP applies everywhere, the protections are used on any page where BLP violations have occurred or likely to occur. Just being tagged with such protection doesn't make the page a BLP. — Masem (t) 23:00, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- Weak Support I think one of the main reasons RDs for members of groups is allowed is because the page for a group will most likely contain a fair deal of biographical information relating to the members of the group. The current article does contain a bit of biographical information, which I consider just barely enough to be posted. Gödel2200 (talk) 22:33, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose This is not a biography, and therefore it doesn't meet ITNRD. This article is about the video, not him. He is not sufficiently covered. – Muboshgu (talk) 22:39, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose. We do not have a biographical article. While the subject who was the primary individual featured in the video did indeed die, but our criteria for recent deaths does not expand to this scope. The guidance permits that
[a]n individual human, animal or other biological organism that has recently died may have an entry in the recent deaths (RD) section if it has a biographical Wikipedia article
(emphasis mine), but we have no such biographical article for this individual. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 02:07, 9 August 2024 (UTC) - Oppose. Per most of the above. The article in question is mostly about the video and isn't a biography article. 🛧Midori No Sora♪🛪 ( ☁=☁=✈) 02:45, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- Procedural oppose' per above but am not opposed to taking another look at the criteria This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 04:53, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- Comment Haven’t there been names run on RD who have been the subjects of “death of” or “killing of” articles? If that’s happened before, I don’t see any reason why Karlson shouldn’t run. Thriley (talk) 12:39, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- Comment Not to mention Jack Karlson exists as a redirect, but I guess that's not enough either? Kcmastrpc (talk) 13:34, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- The issue to me is that we have one paragraph of biographical material in this article. If that could be significantly expanded, that might be a reason, but his biography is basically a side note to the fame of the video. Masem (t) 13:58, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- We have sometimes made exceptions for persons who are exceptionally famous or infamous for a single thing, such as serial killers, where they are discussed at length in the article on their crimes. But I don't think this falls into that category. -Ad Orientem (talk) 16:06, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- Well yes we can't compare serial killers to someone arrested for eating a meal (a Succulent Chinese Meal!). However, it is a video that has taken on a cultural life of its own, including in depth dives into Karlson's history and the fact that we have international coverage worldwide that doesn't happen for many internet memes indicates to me that this may be one of those exceptions of being famous for one thing. The C of E God Save the King! (talk) 16:37, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- We have sometimes made exceptions for persons who are exceptionally famous or infamous for a single thing, such as serial killers, where they are discussed at length in the article on their crimes. But I don't think this falls into that category. -Ad Orientem (talk) 16:06, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- The issue to me is that we have one paragraph of biographical material in this article. If that could be significantly expanded, that might be a reason, but his biography is basically a side note to the fame of the video. Masem (t) 13:58, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- Comment Not to mention Jack Karlson exists as a redirect, but I guess that's not enough either? Kcmastrpc (talk) 13:34, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose per most of the above. Subject does not meet the customary criteria for RD, which usually requires a stand-alone article. -Ad Orientem (talk) 16:03, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support Seems kind of bureaucratic to exclude based on the focus which is primarily concerning Karlson, the subject of the meme video, and contains biographical information about Karlson. -- GreenC 16:04, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support The subject has an obituary in The Times and it doesn't get any better than that. As he seems quite notable, I suppose that the main complication hitherto has been his multiple aliases but his death seems to have clarified that. Andrew🐉(talk) 17:19, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- As I said above, if there was more than a paragraph of actual bio info (hint: that obit can be used to fill in some more) then it would be reasonable to post. But right now, its still a tiny single paragraph within the entire article and includes an unsourced statement (plus the writing is extremely informal for an encyclopedic article). It could get there but the bio must be expanded. Masem (t) 17:41, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
(Posted) RD: Taberon Honie
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): APNews,
Credits:
- Nominated by Rockstone35 (talk · give credit)
Article updated
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- Utah executed him today. --RockstoneSend me a message! 08:32, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support article looks well sourced, no outstanding maintenance tags. Aydoh8[contribs] 00:33, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support. Looks good, no problems found. 🛧Midori No Sora♪🛪 ( ☁=☁=✈) 02:48, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- Posted to RD. SpencerT•C 06:24, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
August 7
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Banning of MFP
Blurb: The Move Forward Party is dissolved and Pita Limjaroenrat (pictured), alongside other senior politicians from the party, are banned from politics by the Constitutional Court of Thailand. (Post)
Alternative blurb: After being accused of wanting to amend the Lèse-majesté laws, the Move Forward Party and its executives are banned from politics by the Constitutional Court of Thailand.
Alternative blurb II: The Move Forward Party is dissolved and its executives (founder Pita Limjaroenrat pictured) are banned from politics by the Constitutional Court of Thailand.
News source(s): NPR Al-Jazeera
Credits:
- Nominated by River10000 (talk · give credit)
- This is an important development in the flawed democracy of Thailand, specifically with the banning of the party exec. from politics; he was arguably the most popular politician in Thailand. While the MFP will move to a new party, the lingering effect will stay. River10000 (talk) 19:15, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support alt 3 Event is noteworthy, the official opposition party was banned, and this blurb is the best at describing it. Scu ba (talk) 23:17, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support alt 3, definitely noteworthy and that is the most concise blurb. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 23:34, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose for ITN, though I will include it in 2024. This is not a change in head of state/government, as Pita Limjaroenrat was not the incumbent prime minister or a similar position. Party dissolutions are common in Thailand, and this doesn't have sufficient due weight for ITN. JohnAdams1800 (talk) 23:40, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- Weak oppose I think from what I read and per JohnAdams, all that's happening is because the high court said that the party's stance against the lèse-majesté law (which violates criticism of the royal family) was unconstitutional and had to dissolve the party, but for all purposes, they're all just jumping over to a new party that does not have a stance on lèse-majesté. If anything, there would need to be more focus on this aspect around the lèse-majesté law issue, not just the simple disbanding of the party and reforming as something else. Further, it reads that this party already was born of the ashes from a previous party one or two years ago, so this is not uncommon. --Masem (t) 00:20, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- Comment yeah, sure, but this is the main opposition party, technically the second largest party in the country, the only meaningful voice of discontent against the government, and they got banned for due to a rather unpopular law protecting the royals. Scu ba (talk) 00:59, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support major domestic political development. We'd post it if the German CDU got banned for dubious reasons This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 04:56, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support too. This is major democratic backsliding and is as notable as a party winning an election, if not more.VR (Please ping on reply) 12:15, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- Weak Oppose As others have said, this is not the first time a party dissolution has occured in Thailand, with the MFP being the successor of the Future Forward Party. This dissolution also bans the executives of the MFP from politics, but the article really does not explain if that will have a major impact on the effectiveness of the new party (People's Party). If information is added to the article that says that the banning of the politicians will significantly weaken the new party, then I will change to support. Gödel2200 (talk) 12:54, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
RD: Jon McBride
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): CollectSpace,
Credits:
- Nominated by Hawkeye7 (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Sinbabad (talk · give credit), Thebig93 (talk · give credit) and Hawkeye7 (talk · give credit)
Article updated
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- NASA astronaut. One of the class of 1978 (the "Thirty-Five New Guys") hired to fly the Space Shuttle. Flew one Space Shuttle mission. Article is in poor shape, but should meet
Masem'sour minimum standards. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 01:59, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support article looks good Scu ba (talk) 23:17, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
(Closed) Battle of Tinzaouaten (2024)
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Blurb: Mali and Niger cut diplomatic ties with Ukraine for its alleged involvement in a rebel attack that killed dozens of Malian troops and Russian mercenaries. (Post)
News source(s): Reuters Al Jazeera
Credits:
- Nominated by Nice4What (talk · give credit)
- Oppose Would be part of the Ukraine ongoing, and considering what's already stale, the small update on cutting of ties is not significant enough. --Masem (t) 12:33, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose per Masem. Estreyeria (talk) 13:01, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose The battle itself is stale, and the cutting of diplomatic ties is not significant enough to post. Gödel2200 (talk) 13:48, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose per above Ion.want.uu (talk) 14:48, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose per above. Mellk (talk) 15:00, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose per above
- Personisinsterest (talk) 16:50, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
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RD: Doris Brougham
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Christianity Today
Credits:
- Nominated by HistoryTheorist (talk · give credit)
- Updated by BobChen (talk · give credit) and Vycl1994 (talk · give credit)
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(Updated) Muhammad Yunus appointed as new interim leader
Blurb: Muhammad Yunus is appointed as the leader of the new, interim government of Bangladesh. (Post)
News source(s): Al Jazeera, BBC, France24
Credits:
- Nominated by Andrew Davidson (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Lahsim Niasoh (talk · give credit), Wiki N Islam (talk · give credit) and SashiRolls (talk · give credit)
Article updated
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Out with the old, in with the new. The current blurb about Sheik Hasina might be incorporated in this but the main thing is to report the new leader. Andrew🐉(talk) 09:31, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
- Just want to say that I fixed the title for you. You forgot to change it from the Hamas nom below lol. Support nom, new head of state being appointed after the ousting of the previous. TwistedAxe [contact] 09:47, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for the assist. Andrew🐉(talk) 10:11, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support Article is of sufficient quality for ITN. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 09:51, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support New leader of the eighth-most populous country in the world is significant and the article is of good quality. --Plumber (talk) 11:02, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose on quality of Yunus' article (multiple unsourced paragraphs, and some of the sourcing in the criticism section is iffy for a BLP). When ready, that should be merged with the existing blurb, or at least replace it. --Masem (t) 12:01, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support on notability, oppose on quality per Masem: Yunus' article has uncited paragraphs and red links for nonexistent articles. These need to be addressed before posting. Blurb should also be merged with existing blurb. Tofusaurus (talk) 12:34, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Tofusaurus, you might want to read WP:REDYES. Schwede66 04:09, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose The article will need significant work before posting. On a side note, the article says he will officialy take office on 8 August, so we should wait to post until then. Gödel2200 (talk) 13:46, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support Article has sufficient due weight and quality for ITN. We regularly include changes in heads of state/government. JohnAdams1800 (talk) 15:33, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose on quality of 2024 Bangladesh Interim Government article. Also there are 4 cn tags in the Muhammad Yunus article; he is not yet appointed it is "to be appointed". MAL MALDIVE (talk) 16:09, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
- Merge with the current blurb regarding the resignation of Sheikh Hasina, assuming article quality is adequate for the main page. Kurtis (talk) 19:48, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose on quality - the Publications, Yunus Centre, and Documentaries sections of Yunus' article are mostly or entirely uncited. The interim government article is effectively a list at the moment. Once quality's addressed, merge to existing Bangladesh blurb. The Kip (contribs) 19:58, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support merge per Kurtis This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 22:50, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support merge as the simplest solution.-- SashiRolls 🌿 · 🍥 12:09, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- Posted as an update Stephen 01:01, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- Even with the quality issues that have been pointed out and not resolved? Masem (t) 01:07, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- What quality issues remain in the bolded article? Stephen 01:10, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Stephen the Publications section is still roughly half-uncited, and the Documentaries section is entirely uncited. The Kip (contribs) 01:12, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- It's all good. Stephen 01:33, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- There is also several unsourced statements earlier in the article as well as CNs (some might be new , but there were at least a couple when I made my comment from last night). Its not "good". Masem (t) 11:47, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- It's all good. Stephen 01:33, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Stephen the Publications section is still roughly half-uncited, and the Documentaries section is entirely uncited. The Kip (contribs) 01:12, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- What quality issues remain in the bolded article? Stephen 01:10, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- It was good timing to get that done as the readership for the new leader has now surpassed that of the old. Looking at more coverage of his swearing-in, it's interesting that he's 84 -- even older than Biden. He was forced to retire as MD of the Grameen Bank on age grounds back in 2011 but you're never too old to be a national leader, it seems. Andrew🐉(talk) 09:12, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- Even with the quality issues that have been pointed out and not resolved? Masem (t) 01:07, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
(Closed) Yahya Sinwar appointed Hamas Chairman
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Blurb: Yahya Sinwar is named the chairman of the Hamas Political Bureau. (Post)
Alternative blurb: Yahya Sinwar is named the chairman of the Hamas Political Bureau following his predecessor, Ismail Haniyeh's, assassination.
Alternative blurb II: Yahya Sinwar is named the chairman of the Hamas Political Bureau following his predecessor, Ismail Haniyeh's, assassination by Israeli forces.
News source(s): Al JazeeraReuters AP
Credits:
- Nominated by Scu ba (talk · give credit)
Support New Head of state, notable coverage in the media, currently relevant geopolitically Scu ba (talk) 22:47, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- Strong oppose, Gaza is not a state but part of the Palestinian Territories, Hamas does govern Gaza partially, but it is ultimately a militant group. Not notable, covered by ongoing. Personisinsterest (talk) 00:52, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose We don't post this type of transitions in terrorist groups. --Masem (t) 01:07, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose per Personisinterest. The Palestinian Authority is the internationally-recognized government of Palestine (including Gaza), so this isn’t a change in the head of state/government - just that of a militant group that seized partial control of Palestine. The Kip (contribs) 01:14, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose per Personisinterest. The Hamas Political Bureau is not the recognised government. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 01:36, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose per Masem. -Ad Orientem (talk) 01:48, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose because Hamas is not a government, but a belligerent in an ongoing war. JohnAdams1800 (talk) 04:02, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
- To play Devil's Advocate Hamas does organise a government that is the de facto ruling authority of parts of the Gaza Strip not occupied by Israel. However it can be mostly characterised as a militant terrorist group, and so I don't support blurbing this PrecariousWorlds (talk) 05:42, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose per all above TwistedAxe [contact] 09:49, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose: Hamas is only the government in Gaza, not the government of Palestine as a whole. Tofusaurus (talk) 12:30, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
(Posted) RD: Billy Bean
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [1]
Credits:
- Nominated by Muboshgu (talk · give credit)
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
- Support Looks fine. Scientia potentia est, MonarchOfTerror 21:54, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support Article looks good. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 22:52, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
- Posted Stephen 04:29, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
RD: Connie Chiume
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): SABC News
Credits:
- Nominated by 240F:7A:6253:1:89E1:1A66:9443:4B37 (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Alon Alush (talk · give credit)
Article updated
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- Oppose for the usual reason of a mostly-uncited filmography. The Kip (contribs) 19:19, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
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(Closed) United States v. Google LLC (2020)
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Blurb: A district court rules that Google illegally held a monopoly in online search. (Post)
News source(s): [2] [3]
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- Nominated by Awesome Aasim (talk · give credit)
- Updated by ElijahPepe (talk · give credit) and WellThisIsTheReaper (talk · give credit)
- Oppose but only because we have no idea what the remedies are yet. If the court forces Alphabet to sell off Google, that might be somethiung, but if its just a multi-million dollar fine, that would be a slap on the wrist. — Masem (t) 02:39, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose because this lacks sufficient due weight for ITN, and is still playing out. Google will likely appeal the ruling, and the article needs more information.JohnAdams1800 (talk) 04:00, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose; this is still an ongoing event. While the ruling itself would be landmark and historical, it could still get overturned on appeal. We’d have to wait and see to make a final determination. Cheers! --WellThisIsTheReaper Grim 04:26, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose until there are consequences for Google, as per Masem. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 09:48, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose as there are currently no consequences for Google. Gödel2200 (talk) 13:51, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
(Closed) Stock market decline
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Blurb: The Nikkei 225 experiences its largest one-day loss amid a global sell-off. (Post)
News source(s): The Washington Post
Credits:
- Nominated by ElijahPepe (talk · give credit)
- Oppose single day losses or gains aren't good ITN stories. If there was a week long trend of bad stock news, that might be sonething, but markets are always volitile and thus short term trends aren't really good for ITN. Masem (t) 18:53, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- I would argue this has been going on for several days, since the Department of Labor's report. The S&P 500 Index, for instance, has been falling. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 19:52, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- Certainly made all markets voilitle but in the larger picture, just more wild swings and not massive corrections... Yet. Other pundants are saying this was expected for a long time due to lack of fed interest cut and the perception infinite growth could go on forever, so the market is now just correcting. Either way, we don't have a significant enough long term economic impact appropriate for ITN. Masem (t) 20:13, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- I would argue this has been going on for several days, since the Department of Labor's report. The S&P 500 Index, for instance, has been falling. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 19:52, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support when article is improved. Economic news are underrepresented at ITN and this one is notable - global in nature, very much so in the news and historic as the largest one day loss. 2A02:8071:6362:54A0:549B:15AE:60C8:4E6 (talk) 18:58, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose. This currently this doesn't have enough due weight for ITN. This is an ongoing event and may be mooted if the stock market recovers, or the sell-off could continue and become a bigger story to potentially merit ITN. JohnAdams1800 (talk) 18:56, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose Hasn't been long enough to tell if this will mean anything yet. The article would need expansion anyway. Estreyeria (talk) 19:31, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- Comment On Black Thursday, the decline was 11%. It closed high on Friday. The succeeding Monday and Tuesday had two more ~11% drops. Following that, much of the world plunged into a depression (I'm aware of the London crash and how reductive it is to claim the stock crash was the primary cause of the Depression; this is merely for comparison's sake). This is only one day, however, followed by an eerily similar good day. If the next two trading days have a comparable decline, I'll support. Sincerely, Dilettante 03:23, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose No evidence that this is more than your run of the mill market correction. We don't blurb that sort of thing even if it ends up foreshadowing a recession. The S&P 500's drop today was not even in the top twenty for one day declines. Japan's market drop is interesting but so far unclear what it's long term ramifications will be. And FWIW as of this comment the Nikkei Index is currently trading up around 10%. -Ad Orientem (talk) 03:36, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose The article has been nominated for deletion and the nominator's reason was
"plain economic news, and even as economic news goes it's not notable"
. MAL MALDIVE (talk) 11:16, 6 August 2024 (UTC) - Oppose The article is at Afd and the main impact of the event seems to be (as stated in the lead) the "heightening concerns of a recession" which I do not think is notable enough. Gödel2200 (talk) 12:59, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
(Posted) Hasina resigns
Blurb: Bangladeshi prime minister Sheikh Hasina resigns and flees the country following protests. (Post)
Alternative blurb: Bangladeshi Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina resigns and flees the country after protests that followed reform attempts.
Alternative blurb II: Sheikh Hasina resigns as prime minister of Bangladesh and flees to India following protests.
News source(s): India Today
Credits:
- Nominated by Rushtheeditor (talk · give credit)
- Updated by MAL MALDIVE (talk · give credit)
- If this is posted, I think 2024 Bangladesh quota reform movement should be mentioned in the blurb since the two are related. APK hi :-) (talk) 10:14, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- @APK: I added a link to Non-cooperation movement (2024). Do you think that’s fine or would a link to 2024 Bangladesh quota reform movement be better? Blaylockjam10 (talk) 10:27, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- I'm not sure which one would be better, but thank you for pointing out there is a more specific page. APK hi :-) (talk) 10:29, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- The alt blurb that was just added works. APK hi :-) (talk) 10:42, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- @APK: I added a link to Non-cooperation movement (2024). Do you think that’s fine or would a link to 2024 Bangladesh quota reform movement be better? Blaylockjam10 (talk) 10:27, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support. Prime minister fleeing country is big news, as were protests themselves. BilboBeggins (talk) 11:45, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support Alt Blurb A very big international news. But yellow tag in the bold article needs to be resolved. PrinceofPunjabTALK 11:57, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support The Prime Minister resigning and fleeing, IIRC to India, is major news. The ongoing protests were major, and she has been accused of authoritarianism. JohnAdams1800 (talk) 12:32, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- Very big news for sure. Also the above article mentioned is better.Sportsnut24 (talk) 10:38, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support: major news Wiki N Islam (talk) 10:49, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support: Extremely significant development from the Bangladeshi protests. Tofusaurus (talk) 10:54, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support with alt-blurb. -- SashiRolls 🌿 · 🍥 10:55, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support here because I was surprised not to see it front page yet. Plutonium27 (talk) 11:40, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support per all MAL MALDIVE (talk) 11:43, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose on quality. The section involving her last term has nothing except one sentence update as to her leaving the office. While I know ther's a whole separate article on the events leading to this point, we need at least one good sized paragraph summary of why this went this way in the bio article. --Masem (t) 12:01, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- There has been some expansion, but there should be more as to what specific actions or inactions she did in the previous protests now linked there that caused the population to turn against her. — Masem (t) 18:56, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose on quality The target should be Sheikh Hasina, as the article for the protests is well short of main page quality. However, the details of the last term on her page need to be updated Gödel2200 (talk) 12:10, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support with alt burb probably the biggest international news right now. Nomian (talk) 13:12, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support because this is major news and alt blurb Sharier4 (talk) 13:31, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support with alt blurb Very big news but in the alt make Sheikh Hasina the bolded article instead of the protests Djprasadian (talk) 13:34, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support Huge news. --Grnrchst (talk) 14:36, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support Incredibly important post. Greatder (talk) 14:52, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support Bangladesh is the eighth most populous country in the world and just had a revolution. This is gigantic news and its failure to be included so far reflects poorly on Wikipedia as a source of timely information. --Plumber (talk) 15:34, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- No need to make far reaching conclusions, it will be posted when an administrator assesses the article and confirms it's of good quality. BilboBeggins (talk) 15:57, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support on notability, but needs more cleanup and updates to be posted. Natg 19 (talk) 16:29, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support on notability, big news Personisinsterest (talk) 16:49, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support Major geopolitical news, especially after the culmination of the protests is finally over Cranloa12n / talk / contribs / 17:55, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support ALTblurb Per above, imo the protests should have been ITN for a while now but this can suffice. Ornithoptera (talk) 19:12, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose on quality. We can't post this while the controversy section is orange tagged for neutrality. Per WP:ITNUPDATE,
Articles that are subject to serious issues, as indicated by 'orange'- or 'red'-level tags at either the article level or within any section, may not be accepted for an emboldened link.
. So it should be fixed before posting. Scientia potentia est, MonarchOfTerror 19:57, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- I have removed the tag until such time as the drive-by tagger creates a TP section explaining why policy supports the tag they placed after this ITN/C was opened. Per BRD, they'll need to gain consensus to restore the tag.-- SashiRolls 🌿 · 🍥 22:36, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose on quality per MonarchOfTerror. Support on notability per others. ArkHyena (talk) 20:02, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- Comment I suggest the target should be Non-cooperation movement (2024) because that is the primary article focused on this event. This is fairly better in terms of quality and improvements here wouldn't take much effort, unlike in the long and comprehensive bio of Sheikh Hasina. Nomian (talk) 20:29, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- The bio article is really close. The orange tag can be addresses and some of that material likely can go up to fill the gap in the section on her last term. If it was miles away I'd agree but it would be better for her more complete article to be target. — Masem (t) 21:03, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- The orange tag has been removed since no TP discussion was created concerning the tag. Perhaps the tagger could spend the time to explain themself on the TP. -- SashiRolls 🌿 · 🍥 22:38, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- I moved the content about the more recent events that were put in the Controversies section up into the political career, as to meet my suggestion that there should be more there to explain why she fled the position (specifically her stance in the earlier protest). — Masem (t) 03:46, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- The orange tag has been removed since no TP discussion was created concerning the tag. Perhaps the tagger could spend the time to explain themself on the TP. -- SashiRolls 🌿 · 🍥 22:38, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support ITN/R as change of head of government This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 20:55, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- Posted Stephen 23:51, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- Comment There should be some discussion about the violence against Hindus in the blurb. JDiala (talk) 20:16, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
(Posted) RD: Graham Thorpe
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Sky News
Credits:
- Nominated by 240F:7A:6253:1:D008:3BBC:2CAE:D4B9 (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Fats40boy11 (talk · give credit)
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- Support Article is well sourced and updated. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 16:41, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support Looks good. Scientia potentia est, MonarchOfTerror 19:53, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support. - SchroCat (talk) 20:39, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- Posted – Schwede66 02:45, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
August 4
August 4, 2024
(Sunday)
Armed conflicts and attacks
International relations
Law and crime
Sports
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RD: Duane Thomas
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): CBS Sports
Credits:
- Nominated by 240F:7A:6253:1:3433:C2D3:2DC9:5CFD (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Nohomersryan (talk · give credit)
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- Oppose Missing sources in many places, especially the legacy section. Scientia potentia est, MonarchOfTerror 20:14, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
RD: Steve Kragthorpe
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): CBS Sports
Credits:
- Nominated by 240F:7A:6253:1:3433:C2D3:2DC9:5CFD (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Here2rewrite (talk · give credit)
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- Oppose Multiple paragraphs without a citation. Scientia potentia est, MonarchOfTerror 20:12, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
RD: Tsung-Dao Lee
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NYTimes
Credits:
- Nominated by Staraction (talk · give credit)
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- Oppose Needs sourcing work. Scientia potentia est, MonarchOfTerror 19:20, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support He won Nobel prize. -Abhishikt (talk) 00:23, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- Please be reminded to focus your review on article quality and readiness for use on MainPage, rather than who the subject was. Thanks. -- PFHLai (talk) 23:16, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
RD: Shobhana Ranade
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): All India Radio
Credits:
- Nominated by Ktin (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Tachs (talk · give credit), Roland zh (talk · give credit) and Ohconfucius (talk · give credit)
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- Support - article seems fully-sourced. The Kip (contribs) 05:55, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support. In a fairly decent shape. I've also cropped out the the main image to show only the subject. Cheers. 🛧Midori No Sora♪🛪 ( ☁=☁=✈) 04:53, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- Comment Source number 6 and 12 seem like blogs, are they really reliable? Scientia potentia est, MonarchOfTerror 21:51, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
(Closed) Novak Djokovic wins gold medal
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Blurb: In the 2024 Summer Olympics, Novak Djokovic wins the gold medal for men's tennis singles. (Post)
News source(s): Hindustan Times
Credits:
- Nominated by Jalapeño (talk · give credit)
- Oppose This is similar to the 100m nom below: this is already covered by ongoing. Gödel2200 (talk) 15:22, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose covered by ongoing Ion.want.uu (talk) 15:21, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose covered by ongoing. Lots of people are winning their first Olympic gold. Estreyeria (talk) 16:19, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose not a GS, which is ITNR; covered by ongoing. Unnamelessness (talk) 16:35, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose Covered by ongoing and something similar to this nominated a day ago was not posted Hungry403 (talk) 17:31, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
August 3
August 3, 2024
(Saturday)
Armed conflicts and attacks
Business and economy
Disasters and accidents
Politics and elections
Sports
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RD: Pasi Ikonen
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): YLE
Credits:
- Updated and nominated by Oceanh (talk · give credit)
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- Support Looks good enough. Scientia potentia est, MonarchOfTerror 19:50, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- Very poor prose with a couple of lines in annual sections. What happened after 2011 or did he retire? Stephen 00:23, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
(Posted) RD: Yamini Krishnamurthy
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NDTV Indian Express
Credits:
- Updated and nominated by Ktin (talk · give credit)
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- Support Doesn't appear to be any problems. Scientia potentia est, MonarchOfTerror 19:50, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- Posted. --PFHLai (talk) 01:33, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
(Posted) United Kingdom riots
Blurb: Far-right protesters riot in various parts of the United Kingdom in response to a fatal mass stabbing in Southport. (Post)
Alternative blurb: Far-right, racially motivated protesters riot in various parts of the United Kingdom in response to a fatal mass stabbing in Southport.
Alternative blurb II: Following a mass stabbing in Southport, far-right and anti-immigration riots occur across the United Kingdom.
News source(s): The Guardian, Reuters, The Times]
Credits:
- Nominated by FelineHerder (talk · give credit)
- Disrupstive event in a major country. -FelineHerder (talk) 19:46, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support altblurb, the event is very important but the racial/religious motivations here can't be ignored. Personisinsterest (talk) 22:41, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
- The size of these seem small? While there are many across the country, they seem to be in the dozens to a few hundred or so at each, which is really not that significant in the larger picture. --Masem (t) 00:00, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose It's getting some coverage but the scale of the riots is not on a level that we would normally post at ITN. As far as I can tell the only thing that makes these riots stand out is that it is the far right instead of the left. That is admittedly somewhat unusual in the UK. -Ad Orientem (talk) 03:07, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- What an utterly absurd take. – filelakeshoe (t / c) 🐱 09:11, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- Please substantiate. 2403:580E:5715:0:4DA9:B890:A623:A48F (talk) 11:30, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- What an utterly absurd take. – filelakeshoe (t / c) 🐱 09:11, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support - significant; well-developed articles. As a side note, although they were on a larger scale, we put the 2011 riots on ITN, so this is not without precedent. Tim O'Doherty (talk) 15:56, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- We tend to post a lot of protests and riots in the first place (not just from the UK), when we should be more focused on what impacts those are having on the city/region/country where they are occuring. For example, the protests in Venezula are clearly having an impact due not just to their size but the challenge to the election. While there has been some acts of violence from these UK ones, they aren't at a scale that seem to be having that significant an impact at this point. — Masem (t) 16:01, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support on the proviso that the blurb delineates the 'mass stabbing of children' in Southport. The riots have gained significant traction in the past several hours. ♦ JAGUAR 17:27, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support - Maybe it's because I'm in the UK but right now these riots are pretty big, definitely the largest civil unrest in Britain since 2011, possibly even back earlier PrecariousWorlds (talk) 17:50, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- This doesn't seem to be true. From a quick skim of the George Floyd protests in the United Kingdom in 2020, civil unrest was markedly larger in size/scope. spintheer (talk) 18:41, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- Nowhere near comparable. Three times as many injured in these riots PrecariousWorlds (talk) 09:01, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- This doesn't seem to be true. From a quick skim of the George Floyd protests in the United Kingdom in 2020, civil unrest was markedly larger in size/scope. spintheer (talk) 18:41, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support Pretty exceptional. TrangaBellam (talk) 18:07, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support. What's happening in the UK is not political protests but widespread extremist violence, which is both more unusual and more significant. Nsk92 (talk) 18:50, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support Sustained international coverage, which is unusual for similar protests. C F A 💬 19:04, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support altblurb because definite racial component. Increasing international coverage, as above.--Wuerzele (talk) 19:10, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support altblurb per Wuerzele. This is a significant period of rioting in England from extremist groups that has had significant international news coverage. ArkHyena (talk) 19:51, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- Comment - Any blurb should mention the role of misinformation in triggering these events. Claiming that they're merely "in response to the stabbing" only lends credibility to said misinformation, which is the opposite of what an encyclopaedia should be aiming to do. HumanBodyPiloter5 (talk) 20:49, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- Motion seconded This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 21:39, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose These riots are not about anything in particular, I know the nominal cause was the Southport attacks but they have proved hopelessly misdirected. These riots are far right thugs and looters doing what thugs and looters do. Don't give them the oxygen of publicity. ITN's neutrality requirements do not prevent us exercising editorial judgement. 3142 (talk) 21:51, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- I don't oppose us posting this on ITN (it is in the news, unfortunately) but I do oppose us describing the rioters as "protesters" for this reason. Did we do that in 2011? No. – filelakeshoe (t / c) 🐱 09:16, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support Seems to be ongoing now, and several incidents occurring. UK PM to hold an emergency meeting. RJX74 (talk) 00:44, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support Gaining a lot of traction. Tons of coverage on the riot around the world, worth posting. Hungry403 (talk) 02:23, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support alt2; a significant event, and that blurb appears to best reflect the sources. BilledMammal (talk) 02:27, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- Posted Stephen 03:01, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- Please add "anti-immigration riots". Kiwiz1338 (talk) 06:18, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- No need. The current blurb is concise, and the link between these riots and immigration is extremely tenuous. 'Far right' much better characterises their overall nature. GenevieveDEon (talk) 12:48, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- "link between these riots and immigration is extremely tenuous" you have to be kidding me right? That's a main talking point of protesters. "stop the boats" "go home" "England for the English", you watch these protests and you'll hear all these. Kiwiz1338 (talk) 19:23, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- No need. The current blurb is concise, and the link between these riots and immigration is extremely tenuous. 'Far right' much better characterises their overall nature. GenevieveDEon (talk) 12:48, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- Comment: I think we are misinforming our readers by saying these riots have occurred "across the United Kingdom" in the blurb. The riots have been an almost exclusively English phenomenon, with only one relatively minor incident in Belfast. No riots have happened in Wales or Scotland, but that is what we're implying by saying these riots are happening "across the United Kingdom". --Grnrchst (talk) 14:39, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- 85% of the UK population lives in England. If the departments containing 85% of the population of France were rioting, would it be implying that the rioting was also happening in the other 15% if we says "protesters riot in France"? Unknown Temptation (talk) 14:49, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- Different situation as the UK is a de facto federal state with four very distinct polities, unlike France which is quite centralised. However I don't think we should specify England as there is unrest occurring in the other nations. PrecariousWorlds (talk) 20:18, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- The UK isn't in any way a federal state. It's a highly centralised state with unequal devolution to Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. Abcmaxx (talk) 14:50, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- Different situation as the UK is a de facto federal state with four very distinct polities, unlike France which is quite centralised. However I don't think we should specify England as there is unrest occurring in the other nations. PrecariousWorlds (talk) 20:18, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- 85% of the UK population lives in England. If the departments containing 85% of the population of France were rioting, would it be implying that the rioting was also happening in the other 15% if we says "protesters riot in France"? Unknown Temptation (talk) 14:49, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
(Closed) 100M
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Blurb: Julien Alfred of St. Lucia wins the women's 100m at the Olympics 2024. (Post)
Credits:
- Nominated by Sportsnut24 (talk · give credit)
- Had a discussion about this in the talk pages and it being the biggest sports event in 4 years. Men's is tomorrow, but like tennis grand slams, we can just update it then.Sportsnut24 (talk) 19:30, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose Already covered by ongoing. 2A02:8071:6362:54A0:549B:15AE:60C8:4E6 (talk) 19:39, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose Covered by ongoing item. Barring special significance, no single Olympic event rises to the level of a blurb imo. The Kip (contribs) 19:41, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose Covered by ongoing per above, Editor 5426387 (talk) 23:31, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
(Posted) RD: Antônio Meneses
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): https://www.thestrad.com/news/brazilian-cellist-antonio-meneses-dies-at-age-66/18411.article , https://concerto.com.br/noticias/musica-classica/morre-aos-66-anos-o-violoncelista-antonio-meneses , https://www.facebook.com/CelloMeneses/posts/pfbid044sM3nxYFCDj2TUcMoqzgY7RZntTqmiGG1pfKvaucJ43ncMDWLtebLy8UCcZwVV1l
Credits:
- Updated and nominated by Zingarese (talk · give credit)
- Updated by CurryTime7-24 (talk · give credit) and Gerda Arendt (talk · give credit)
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- should be GTG now as far as citing is concerned. Let me know if there are any other problems. Zingarese talk · contribs (please mention me on reply; thanks!) 20:05, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support Article looks to be of sufficient quality. Scientia potentia est, MonarchOfTerror 19:44, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- Comment I nominated, and only then saw "he" was already here: One of few great cellists of his generation, the cellist of the legendary Beaux Arts Trio. The article was already pretty detailed and sourced. There could be more about what music, and reviews. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:33, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- Posted. --PFHLai (talk) 23:10, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
2024 Lido Beach attack
Blurb: Al-Shabaab killed more than 20 people and injured dozens in an attack (pictured) on a popular spot in Mogadishu, Somalia. (Post)
Alternative blurb: Over 20 people were killed, and dozens were injured in an Al-Shabaab attack at Lido Beach, Mogadishu (pictured).
Alternative blurb II: Al-Shabaab's deadly attack at Mogadishu's Lido Beach (pictured) leaves over 20 dead and dozens injured.
News source(s): Reuters AP
Credits:
- Nominated by QalasQalas (talk · give credit)
- Neutral — You will need to demonstrate how this is a significant development in the Somali civil war. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 17:53, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose Article is very not NPOV, and it's already in the current events portal under the civil war. Sharrdx (talk) 18:55, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
- An article being featured in the current events portal has no bearing as to whether it should be posted as a blurb. Gödel2200 (talk) 19:31, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
- Weak Support I'm not wowed by the article quality but this appears to be a major terrorist incident with significant loss of life. -Ad Orientem (talk) 19:26, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
- Weak oppose Grim as it sounds, both Timeline of al-Shabaab-related events and the sub-categories of Category:Terrorist incidents in Somalia in the 2020s indicate that attacks of this scale unfortunately don't seem to be uncommon events in Somalia, and the article doesn't really detail why it's especially significant compared any others. The Kip (contribs) 19:50, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
- @The Kip deadliest attack since 2022 Somali Ministry of Education bombings. QalasQalas (talk) 21:32, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
- I’m not sure if deadliest attack in under two years establishes unique significance. The Kip (contribs) 22:53, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
- Additionally as this is (as far as I can tell) the fourth attack at Lido Beach in as many years. Curbon7 (talk) 04:24, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- I’m not sure if deadliest attack in under two years establishes unique significance. The Kip (contribs) 22:53, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
- @The Kip deadliest attack since 2022 Somali Ministry of Education bombings. QalasQalas (talk) 21:32, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
- @ElijahPepe one of the dealiest attack. QalasQalas (talk) 23:28, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
- Weak Oppose The article only has two paragraphs on the attack itself, the rest being background and reactions. As The Kip said, these types of attacks seem to be relatively common in Somalia. Gödel2200 (talk) 15:28, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support Significant attack with a significant loss of life. C F A 💬 21:05, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- Leaning Oppose, obviously this is tragic but: 1. the article doesn't talk much about the attack, and 2. this seems to be a fairly common occurrence and not particularly notable in the war. Personisinsterest (talk) 19:35, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support with updated death toll (now over 40 people), significant attack. Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Thanks ♥) 12:30, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
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(Posted) RD: Galboda Gnanissara Thera
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): https://www.lankaweb.com/news/items/2024/08/02/ven-galboda-gnanissara-thera-of-gangaramaya-temple-passes-away/ http://island.lk/ven-galaboda-gnanissara-passes-away/ https://www.dailynews.lk/2024/08/06/local/602317/ven-galboda-gnanissara-thera-had-a-vision-for-the-country-merging-modernity-with-culture/
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- Updated by Jkaharper (talk · give credit)
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
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