User talk:MCB

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What is the best way to handle that?

Regarding your removal of the Speedy deletion tag from GNU Netcat: I am not sure you read the explanation for deletion. It has been on the table for months now, and the people who voted all agreed that the article should be merged. Merging in my mind requires that the information be transferred from one article to the other (done!), and that one of the articles needs to go away (was trying to do that). So if there is a more appropraiate method for accomplishing these tasks, please let me know (I'm new). Thanks! Xrblsnggt 02:54, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the comment -- I replied on your talk page. --MCB 04:36, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Someone in your neck of the woods needs help

Michael, would you please help these people: http://www.polyplus.com/technology/lithiumaircell.htm ? They may be on to the most important technology but I can't see them getting funded if they don't know the difference between (C) and (R). 66.201.48.26 09:47, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Aviation Accidents

Hi MCB, I wanted to explain to you here some of my rationale for that category, away from the CfD discussion. I have been doing a lot of editing on this subject lately, both fixing up existing articles that were in poor shape as well as creating new ones (for some surprisingly missing notable cases with lots of casualties, human interest etc.). It became clear to me that the existing state of the aviation accidents articles is a mixed bag. Some (very few) are well written and NPOV, some are poorly written, some are well written but POV. (remember that many/most accidents result in lawsuits, you can imagine a lot of advocates of the various parties trying to create influence by modifying WP article to their liking, with typically little if any resistance). If we at WP want to achieve a high level of professionalism, with quality, NPOV and standardization, we have a long way to go in this specific area. I myself am doing my best, but it is not easy, there are (unfortunately) lots of accidents, and very few other editors either care enough about them or are knowledgeable enough to contribute constructively. And many of the so-called 'experts' are actually POV-pushers from some side of the litigation, making this a very tough task from my idealistic perspective of just wanting the ideal neutral high quality WP article. So now I come to the Aviation Accident cat issue: by it being there, it allows an easy way to scan and navigate between the accident articles, to ensure their consistency and quality, or to read them (if you are just an interested passive reader wanting to be informed). Adding 'incidents' into the mix has a strong diluting and cluttering effect, as they are investigated differently and overall handled, by both government, courts and even the media, in a different way. We finally have a 'crash infobox', which I have been diligently working on inserting and validating in the various articles. I think that's a very important step on the road to standardization and quality. I think having the Aviation Accidents cat will also help a lot, as the other existing options are just not good enough. Thanks for your time and understanding. Crum375 14:13, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Hi MCB, please see my response here. Thanks, Crum375 17:18, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/George Eyre

Looks like someone speedied these before I got around to reconsidering my vote. Had they not I might have changed my "vote" anyway. Cheers, JYolkowski // talk 22:27, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

Meaning of "athletics"

You are using athletics as a synonym for "sport". Only Americans do that. In the rest of the world "athletics" means what Americans call track and field. Category:Athletics (track and field) venues is for track and field venues. Category:Stadiums is for large, mainly outdoor, sports venues including "track and field" venues and Category:Sports venues is the comprehensive parent category. Twittenham 21:36, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Audio Anaglogue

Hi, I completely rewrote this article, removing advertising and citing sources. Could you please review my changes and consider revisiting your vote? Thanks! --Aguerriero (talk) 17:43, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Thank you! (re Steven Harding and WP:CP)

Thank you for handling the copyvio issue with the Steven Harding articles. I knew about the speedy deletion alternative for articles <48 hours old, but I wasn't quite clear how to go forward with articles older than that. Having seen the example, I know how to deal with this as it comes up in the future. Again, thank you! —C.Fred (talk) 17:11, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

International Commission of Control and Supervision

Thanks for your help. I don't know how you got my request (from Arpingstone? He says he didn't understand what I wanted. May be it's my bad English...) but thanks anyway.Zoltanszoke 22:08, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Van der Waals bonding merge

Hi, I've reverted your merge, as all you did was delete an article. Please see Wikipedia:Merging_and_moving_pages#Performing_the_merger - Jack (talk) 01:05, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Garden State Park

I've removed the {{advert}} tag because there is nothing in that section that is advertising language, or biased in any way. The information did not come from some brochure, but was gleaned from the relevant links of the various developers below. The area is undergoing a major redevelopment, and ther are a ton of businesses flowing into it. - CobaltBlueTony 18:02, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

beef

awesome! glad to know there is someone around who know's their beef! i'm going to make another template for steak/cut/graphic location. its gonna look GOOOD. and its gonna really help picture where each steak comes from on the cow.

once everything is a bit more organized i'd like to work on improving info on the various cuts/types of steak, and i'd sure love your expertise if your willing. JoeSmack ^Talk 01:49, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Alright, here's the {{beefbox}} infobox. You'll find the appropriate primal cut images uploaded:

Beef Cuts

{{beefbox
|name=
|image=
|caption=
|beefcut=
|steaktype=
|footnotes=
}}

Please, spread the love where it needs it. There are many steaks out there I just don't have any clue what they're called. JoeSmack ^Talk 03:31, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

You know, i didn't know a stitch about templates or infoboxes either. If your interested in it, just tinker around in a sandbox with it or any other one, pretty much how i made these two. {{Cuts of beef}} was actually {{LedZeppelin}} just messed around with. We could possibly use beefbox changed a bit, with i dunno, a n/a in the steak cuts field. I originally made {{Cuts of beef}}, then was like, oh shit, what about all the steaks? Can't list a billion of em in the template...so i made the beefbox infobox. We could use both but i think it'd be too cluttered. start seeing what looks good, be bold. i think beefbox could look better in terms of style and color and such, i just wanted to put it out there as a start. plus i always thought that image of the cow was insanely useful to see.

to make the link 'not clickable', if i've got your idea right, you just make a wikilink around it and it has to be the present article. For instance, User:MCB won't be bolded out cause its not the current page, but User_talk:MCB will. Alternatively, if you don't want to deal with that, you can always just bold a nonwiki linked word with ''' these ''' ---> these. JoeSmack ^Talk 19:53, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Requests for comment/Hipocrite

Could you weigh in at Wikipedia talk:Requests for comment/Hipocrite? If you don't want to, I fully understand. User:Zoe|(talk) 23:31, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

Ah, well, History21 has been proven to be a sockpuppet, so it's all moot anyway. User:Zoe|(talk) 02:03, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Leading zeros on runway designations

Hi Mets501 -- just wanted to let you know to please check my post in Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Airports#No_leading_zeros_on_US_runways before proceeding with any mass change of airport infoboxes to eliminate leading zeros in runway headings -- remember that the U.S. Air Force does use leading zeros, and any bot program should be sure to take this into account. Possibly Naval Air Stations too; I'm not sure. Thanks, --MCB 18:22, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

I've responded on that page. Don't worry, I'm not starting any mass changes until I am positive everyone agrees. —Mets501 (talk) 18:29, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

Re: Space inserted after dot in middle of name

Hi, just wanted to point out a small bad edit, which was changing "Art.Net" to "Art. Net" diff. (Art.Net is the name of a web site, which uses that particular capitalization). I suspect there are probably some other sites in the .net domain that do the same, so it might be worth checking for something like that. Thanks, --MCB 03:49, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Hi there. Thanks for catching that. The intent of that particular rule in my bot is to catch cases where someone doesn't correctly put a space between the end of one sentence and the start of another. It does this by looking for lower case characters, a full-stop, and an uppercase character. It also rules out some common cases (eg 'IMAGE.JPG'). As you suggested, foo.Net is probably used in a product name quite frequently, so I've added it (and a handful of other similar cases) as exceptions. Cheers! CmdrObot 20:36, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Re: Deletion_of_article

Hi MCB,

Saw User_talk:Lentower#Deletion_of_article. Thanks for letting me know.

I'm glad for Wikipedia's sake that you are doing this. It's good to see responsible behaviour in any community.

I found the Speedy Delete surprising, granted comments like your's and Capi's, and the fact that the discussion didn't seem resolved.

In your shoes, out of fairness, I would let all established WPians who participated in the AfD know. On both sides. Capi lists some of them. I note you list both sides on Ryan's talk page, though you only listed edit counts for one side.

The editor who started the Delete chain, on the AfD, Samsara (talk • contribs), was having a set of exchanges with me, in several places on Template_talk:FOSS_celeb. I find his attitude and impatience in our exchanges on Template_talk:FOSS_celeb counterproductive to furthering WP's goals and helping less experienced editors along (which I am currently). He started the Delete chain in the midst of these discussions - his motivations are unknown to me - but perhaps the two are related. People are free to read both our words, and draw their own conclusions.

I'm much more concerned about the problems this all shows inside WP, then I am about the Deletion of the bio stub on me.

best -len Lentower 11:30, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

Quite a different way then email to coummunicate, bounching back and forth between disussion blogs.

best -len Lentower 11:33, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

Indeed I also found the Speedy Delete quite surprising, given that, even among the established WPians, there was certainly no consensus for deleting. The whole disproportional measure of effort coming in by some of the delete voters frankly seems more like someone's crusade to eradicate Len's article (perhaps fueled by some personal animosity or some other unknown reason) than an encyclopedic effort. Heck, we have an article on people like Brian Paul (wrote a library) and Ari Lemmke (whose contribution to Humanity, from the article, literally amounts to doing "mkdir linux"), yet we say that one of the FSF's founders is not notable enough to warrant his own? Please... Capi 13:09, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

Leonard H. Tower Jr.

Hi Michael. In response to your query, I did take a look at the votes in the AfD. However, I speedied the article not as a result of how the AFD was going, but because I would have speedied it if I had happened upon it and there had been no tags. In its current form, the article was a vanity page created by the subject that did very little to establish the notability of the subject. However, since there was almost nothing in the article anyway, it should be a trivial matter to recreate it with content that conforms to the Wikipedia manual of style and other relevant guidelines.

If you would like, I can look at the deleted content and reproduce it here for you, if you intend to recreate a suitable article and need any lost information.

Regards, Ryan Delaney ^talk

Len Tower again

The process wonkism to overturn the AfD decision of Len H. Tower Jr. has been successful, and the new discussion, along with my criticism of the process now being followed, can be found at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Leonard H. Tower Jr. (second nomination). Please note that previous votes/comments are not being taken into account. See you there. - Samsara (talk • contribs) 08:02, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

License tagging for Image:Grey-female-longhaired-cat-MaggieO-MCB.jpg

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beef images

i noticed you added some new images to different beef articles; they look awesome! good job and thanks! JoeSmack ^Talk(p-review!) 17:59, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

David Asimov AfD

Thank you for your detailed and cogent analysis at the David Asimov AfD. Anville 20:41, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thanks for fixing that! I didn't even realize I had deleted his comment. shotwell 22:58, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

RfA thanks

Thank you for participating in my RfA, which passed with a tally of 66/11/5. I learned quite a bit during the process, and I expect to be learning a lot more in the days ahead. I will be taking things slowly (and doing a lot of re-reading), but I hope you will let me know if there is anything I can do to improve in my new capacity. -- Merope Talk 13:46, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

Re:Prod

Sorry about that. I didn't notice it was a prod. I thought it was an AfD, so I hastily reverted the edit. Thanks for letting me know, though. --Nishkid64 22:33, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

Nomination for adminship.

I was checking out your recent edits, and you seem to be a very good candidate for adminship. I don't know what others may think, but I think you would make a great admin. --Nishkid64 23:11, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

Heh, sure. I got no problems here. And have a happy 50th birthday! (It's 6 days before mine hehe). --Nishkid64 23:48, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

RfA thanks from StuffOfInterest

Thank you for participating in my RfA, which finished with a tally of 52/6/1 (~90%). It was an interesting process which gave me a chance to learn a bit about myself and about the community. My intention now is to slowly ease into using those additional buttons on my page. No use being over eager and mucking up the works. The support of all those who went over my record and/or rallied to my defense after the big oppose vote was instumental to the success of this review. Again, thank you! --StuffOfInterest 11:33, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

hey MCB

hey ho. i was thinking about putting Beef through Wikipedia:Cleanup, Wikipedia:Peer Review or even trying to get it into the new Wikipedia:Spotlight. which do you think would be best for it right now (cause it needs some help)? :/ JoeSmack ^Talk(p-review!) 23:15, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

RfA thanks

Thank you very much for your support in my RfA, which passed on October 17, 2006 with a tally of 53/6/0. I am equally elated and humbled by my new capacity as administrator of Wikipedia, and I send my heartfelt thanks for your unflinching support. If you need me for anything, just ask me! With gratitude, 210physicq (c) 04:09, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Don Muang

Ok, i live in Bangkok, Thailand.. And most of the stuff i put up was just crap.. but the last flight leaving Don Muang was not Quantas, it was Kuwait airways! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 203.148.171.1 (talk • contribs) .

Hey!

Message me back whenever you see this so I can make the RfA page. Thanks. Nishkid64 02:07, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

I sent you Wiki-email... hope that reaches you. Thanks, --MCB 04:35, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Okay, I'm making the RfA right now. I'll link you once I'm done with the introduction. Nishkid64 20:24, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/MCB. After adding your replies, add the RfA to WP:RfA. Best of luck, MCB. =) Nishkid64 21:11, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Hey, I just wanted to see how you were holding up so far. I am glad that you haven't run into any obstacles, and the only opposition comes from people who are waiting for your answers to some optional questions. I'm sure everything will turn out for the best, and I hope to see you join the same ranks as myself and 1000+ others very soon. Best regards, Nishkid64 01:30, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

I'm enjoying the process, actually. Very illuminating. --MCB 01:32, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

Hehe less than 20 hours until you become admin. 47/0/0! That's might impressive. Best of luck and hopefully I don't jinx your perfect RfA. Nishkid64 03:14, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks again... we'll see! --MCB 04:59, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Image copyright violations

Hi! Just a heads up for you. I noted that you dealt with a query I had put on the help desk concering image Image:Castle hill.jpg which I had seen on another website and was coyrighted. It was in fact copied from:- [:http://www.trekearth.com/gallery/photo93191.htm]. The user has noted that and removed the tag you placed there. However the website does not indicate the image may be copied and used elsewhere. The uploader User:Usman uk has also removed tags from his/her other images you located and noted had copyright issues which appear to be copyrights of other websites. I have put another note on the helpdesk as further images to the Huddersfield article have appeared with no source. Richard Harvey 20:19, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the message. I am currently working through the users image contribs and putting a no source tags on those I find without any - there are quite a few. At least 14 of these are definate copyvios but they need a different tag. how do you put them up for speedy deletes, or can you as an admin do it? Richard Harvey 20:44, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Congratulations!

Congratulations, Michael! 50/0/0. It's now official. Best of luck as admin, and have fun! If you have any questions or just want to talk, you know where to reach me. =) Nishkid64 22:35, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Technically it's not official and !votes are valid until it is closed. :) But congratulations MCB on your unanimous support for being an administrator. Use the new tools conservatively, especially at first, and work on de-escalating situations instead of inflaming them. As you get comfortable with the new tools, dig in and help out with the backlogs. Again, congrats. - Taxman ^Talk 22:58, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Thank you both. It appears to be closed now, and I am gratified by the support of the community, and look forward to serving. And yes, I am going to send out Talk-page thank-yous :-) --MCB 23:29, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Congratulations!

Congratulations on your unanimously-supported RfA! --²¹⁰physicq (c) 01:43, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

• Congratulations on your new mop and bucket! :) - Cheers, Mailer Diablo 01:58, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

What they said! - Mike | Trick or Treat 02:03, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Good luck with the new tools! riana_dzasta 06:37, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Yes. Good luck and all the best! Congratulations. --Bhadani 00:21, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

100% support - congrats.Bakaman _Bakatalk 04:57, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Congratulations on your promotion, and you're very welcome! --Merovingian ※ Talk 10:50, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the advice

Thanks for the advice regarding ASD, ill be more careful in the future. Piuro 03:58, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for protecting my user page (rhetth)

. . . for putting that protection on my user page User:rhetth), and take care.

Rhetth 23:34, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

A Barnstar for You!

		The Original Barnstar
		For all your great contributions (especially relating to air travel & aircraft etc.) to Wikipedia, I proudly award this barnstar to you. Keep up the great work! Jam01 03:24, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Enjoy! - Jam01 03:24, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

No problem, you were long overdue for some recognition of your fine work! Happy editing! Jam01 03:46, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Travolta book cover

Hi, it was used in John Travolta's article, not an article on the book so I'm not sure it was fair use there. Besides that we are meant to avoid copyright images if we don't need them and I think we can do without that one. Arniep 21:26, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for supporting my RfA

Thank you for your support in my RfA, which passed with a final tally of (56/0/2). It was great to see so much kind support from such competent editors and administrators as commented on my RfA. I know I have much reading to do before I'll feel comfortable enough to use some of the more powerful admin tools, so I'll get right to it. Again, thanks; └ OzLawyer / talk ┐ 13:25, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Image:1938-apollon-team.jpg

KaragouniS (talk · contribs) restored the {{PD-old-50}} tag to Image:1938-apollon-team.jpg. Would you please explain him that is not the correct tag?--Panarjedde 13:50, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Airline destinations afd

Someone renominated airline destinations for afd. Since you voted keep last time, I thought you might be interested. DB (talk) 20:26, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Help needed - Proof Reading, Editing of Affiliate marketing article

Hey MCB, you added the cleanup template at the Affiliate marketing article and we also had a little chat at the articles talk page. I spent today a large amount of time to cleanup the article. Structure, Some wording etc. and also expanded its content significantly. I already posted at the articles talk page asking for help from Editors that have better English skills than I do to go over the article and proof read it and maybe correct some wording here and there where my choice of words might have been not the best. I thought that you might be able to help or know somebody who is up to the task. There is still content to add, but I think the article is now in a much better shape than it was before. I really appreciate your contributions and support. Happy Thanksgiving. Cheers. --roy<sac> ^Talk! .oOo. 19:51, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

thanks for the comment on my page and thanks for being willing to help me out a bit. I know what I am good at and what stuff I better have somebody else taking care of. I also blogged about it to get some more affiliate marketers mobilized to contribute and not just complain about the content about affiliate or search engine marketing or the lag thereof here at Wikipedia. Only a few marketers come from time to time and do something hands-on. Some others were "scared away" in the past who I am trying to convince to come back. We will see how that goes. Cheers! --roy<sac> ^Talk! .oOo. 10:22, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Something else. You are from the bay area and like food and good restaurants. You should check out Erna's Elderberry House in Oakhurst (right before Yosemite National Park). Their website is chateaudusureau.com. You might know it. Mhhh.. I have to check if they have an article. May be something for another joint "project" if you know the place. They are a customer of the company I work for and the the owners are friends and know each other for ages. Well, it's certainly a nicer and more delicious topic than Internet marketing and affiliate marketing in particular ;) --roy<sac> ^Talk! .oOo. 10:30, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Vandalism of WarGames match

I'm sorry, I was trying to revert vandalism that had been done to page and didn't realize the antivandalbot had already moved it so I reverted to the wrong revision. It was an honest mistake and I'm very sorry. --Mahewa 14:08, 7 November 2006

Largest Hotel?

I guess it is a WP:RS question, or is that WP:V? There is a more detailed description of the problem on the talk page. The hotel listed, has very little information about it on the net and it does not appear to be the largest. Right now my source for the MGM is its press release which should be correct given the number of anaylsts that review this stuff, but it is still may not meet WP:V. Vegaswikian 06:28, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

"Angry Bahraini"

Hi, re. the guy User:Zora reported on AIV: He's been active for several days now, the point about his behaviour is not that any of his individual edits are vandalistic, it's that he mechanically targets Zora and reverts blindly whatever she does. It's a clear case of wikistalking and harassment. Please see multiple threads on ANI, search for "Angry Bahraini". The guy should be blocked on sight. (I know this is not a "typical" use of AIV, but it was actually me who advised Zora to use that for reporting, the point being we need fast admin intervention with him.) Thanks, Fut.Perf. ☼ 08:34, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the explanation... best regards, --MCB 06:18, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

American League?

Are you the one who asked me about the American League article? Wahkeenah 01:19, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

It wasn't me... I took a look at your Talk page and posted this there too. Best, --MCB 08:15, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Ten-Four. The question was posted by an IP address, so I'm not sure how to answer it. I think I'll just let it be (or let it MCB). :) Wahkeenah 09:49, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

What's funny is that I am in fact an American League baseball fan (Oakland A's), though I have not edited or even read the American League article, and didn't know that "the Oakland Athletics were officially known as the Oakland A's from 1973 through 1980". I'd want to see a reliable source on that, although it's certainly possible and the anon editor seems to know a lot about baseball team history. Cheers, --MCB 18:24, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

The Wan Wan logo

Whats wrong with my wan wan logo? Its just a visual representation that describes the sound effect. Its not Rights Managed - I made it myself. Should I modify the description beneath the visual? Please explain? It's providing the viewrs with an accompanied visual, why is that considered vandilism? Regards

Sorry, but a black slide with white cursive script reading "Wan Wan" is not "a visual representation that describes the sound effect" or of any encyclopedic value. --MCB 21:47, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Change to Common.css

Per recent discussions, the way in which Persondata is viewed by Wikipedia editors has changed. In order to continue viewing Persondata in Wikipedia articles, please edit your user CSS file to display table.persondata rather than table.metadata. More specific instructions can be found on the Persondata page. --ShakingSpirit^talk on behalf of Kaldari 01:29, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

The Wan Wan Warnings

When is the Wan Wan page eligible for removal of warnings? Im a newcomer and Im not sure if that is possible?

I did some valid research on Wan Wan  and hopefully this will qualify as interesting facts.

Please let me know your thoughts. Thanks ideaperson 10:45 pm ET DEC 25 2006

Answered on your Talk page. --MCB 04:22, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

edits to Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style (biographies)

No automatic editing tools, but my browser did slow down immensely and crashed a minute or two later. I should have gone back and checked that the page was ok. sorry. Master shepherd 05:19, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

indef blocked IP

MCB, last time I checked, we don't indefinitely block IP addresses. More info here.--Kchase T 05:30, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Hmmm... I was fairly sure that indef blocks were appropriate for spambots; as I am a fairly new admin, feel free to adjust in accordance with policy. Best, --MCB 05:34, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

They can be used for accounts, but even static IPs sometimes change. Reduced it to a week. Thanks.--Kchase T 05:56, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the note and explanation. Best, --MCB 06:09, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Arthur Byrant's

Thanks for the correct comment about Bryants. I read the summary and not the graf. I did add a mapit after your revert. Thanks again. Americasroof 17:07, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

They huffed, and puffed, . . .

Thank you for offering your opinion at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:GabrielF/ConspiracyNoticeboard (2nd mfd). Look forward to seeing you around in 2007 at Conspiracy Central! For a little fun, check out Brad Greux's video blog at The Most Brilliant and Flawlessly Executed Plan, Ever, Ever. Good cheer from The Mad Dog, Morton devonshire 20:00, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Kurt Vonnegut

Sorry I thought he really was dead I wasnt trying to vandalize ---169.233.14.170 09:35, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

Curiosity About the Wikipedia Style Guide

Saw your style edits on the Franklin Hoax article. Now you've got me curious. I've written for academic journals and newspapers, have published a book, and have worked with over 100 editors over the last 25 years. In all of those works, editors require that titles be capitalized. I don't have Strunk & White in front of me, but I believe it says the same thing. So why does Wikipedia use such an oddball rule about title capitalization? The Illuminated Master of USEBACA 20:00, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

Request

I request your personal help w/ the basics of wikipedia, because I'm to messed up to read w/out being to tempted to muck about in some diverting hyperlink when trying to read the basic helps abouts and faqs of wikipedia. I am not being faceciouse. Start w/ where and how I should have placed this request. Also sometimes I am accessing wikipedia from a station from which much of the web is off limits. Thats fine w/ me, but may limit my manners of contrabution @ said times. Behold: The exact extent of my net/web savviness (-I DON'T DO FRICKIN SMILEY'S, PERIOD [even tho 1 might have been apropriate @ about this point to show tounge-in-cheeck-edness]) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thaddeus Slamp (talk • contribs)

Removal of a report from AIV

MCB, I'm just curious - did you mean to remove the user that I reported to AIV? Your edit summary did not reflect the user that was removed. [1]. Thanks, Nick—^Contact/_Contribs 06:51, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Responded on your talk page. Thanks, --MCB 07:00, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply. I noticed that you did leave a message for the IP address that was mentioned in your edit summary, but that is not what I am referring to. If you take a look at the diff that I supplied in my previous message, in the process of leaving your comment on the IP address, it seems like you inadvertently removed a user which I had reported, Corleone16. I didn't want to just relist the user in case you had a reason for removing the report which was not mentioned. --Nick—^Contact/_Contribs 07:02, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Field trip procedures

Hope I'm communicating on the correct channel.

While I am most willing to discuss how to make the article Field trip procedures, it is not as you have suggested a copy of a specific school district's policies & procedures.

As someone whom has worked with several educators on this issues, I was hoping to provide a framework that they would normally pay through the nose to learn - the hard way.

While some school districts will cover any one or a couple of issues regarding Administrative, Scheduling, Preparationn, Field Trip, Follow-up, etc ... but none do the whole shebang.

For example, the entire issue of parental drop-off time as well as drive depot to departure location aren't well documented, but parts of the process that put entire classrooms of little chilren at risk.

You're call - I'll make it more encyclopedic as recommended - but I'm a bit offended at the claim that it's a verbatim copy, especially as such municipalities are obliged, usually by their state, to allow all or part of their works to be copied and/or reused for non-commercial purposes. —The preceding.

I give up! All I wanted to do was help out some teachers and kids, keeping them safe when they study off site. Instead, it's implied that I plagiarized. Meandean 06:56, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your message. I responded on your Talk page and you can reply there if you like. --MCB 07:08, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Saw it - we'll carry on the conversation there then Meandean 07:10, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

I assume from your LLNL experience...

..that you know what you're doing with the Q clearance image thing. I think that they have to formally reclassify the source image to be able to tell us to pull it, but I am not an attorney, and you are... Georgewilliamherbert 07:46, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

Hi - responded on your Talk page. --MCB 08:28, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

Cool. Thanks for having followed up with them in email. Georgewilliamherbert 08:36, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

My apologies for not letting you know that discussion had also started on the Wikipedia:Mailing lists wikien-l mailing list; I think I assumed you were reading it already. I would have notified you earlier. You should have been made aware of the development of that discussion... Sorry. Georgewilliamherbert 02:49, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Image copyright problem with Image:Colin-Ferguson-mugshot.jpg

Thank you for uploading Image:Colin-Ferguson-mugshot.jpg. However, it currently is missing information on its copyright status. Wikipedia takes copyright very seriously. It may be deleted soon, unless we can determine the license and the source of the image. If you know this information, then you can add a copyright tag to the image description page.

If you have any questions, please feel free to ask them at the media copyright questions page. Thanks again for your cooperation. —Angr 07:55, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Apology

I apologise for totally messing up a page of yours a while back. I still need help, but I finally figured out the "+"symbol for adding a new topic. Any hints on using Wikkipedia would be greatly appreciated, especially if I can bypass leengthy intro policies. I realise, however that to some extent this may be an unavoidable task at hand.Thaddeus Slamp 06:27, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Invitation

Hello – Based on your significant contribution to one or more San Francisco Bay Area-related articles and/or stated interests on your homepage, I thought you might be interested in this project:

Hi, I noticed your contributions and thought you might be interested in joining WikiProject California, including the San Francisco Bay Area Task Force.

If you are interested in California-related themes, you may want to check out the California Portal.
If you are interested in contributing more to California or Bay Area related articles you may want to join WikiProject California, especially the San Francisco Bay Area task force (signup here). ~~~~

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Welcome

Hi, MCB, and welcome to the San Francisco Bay Area task force! We are a growing community of Wikipedia editors dedicated to identifying, categorizing, and improving articles relevant to the Bay Area. Here are some points that may be helpful: Our main aim is to help improve Bay Area-related articles, so if people ask for help with an article, please try your hardest to help them if you are able. Most important discussions take place on the project's main discussion page. It is highly recommended that you watchlist it. The project has several ongoing and developing activities, such as article quality assessment, which you are welcome to participate. If you have any questions, feel free to ask on the talk page, and we will be happy to help you. Again, welcome! We hope you enjoy working on this project. ~~~~

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Blocked user resuming problem edits

Hello, you recently blocked Pandora04 (talk · contribs · block log) for repeatedly removing cited material against consensus. This user has resumed removing the material after the block expired.[2] --Muchness 04:13, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the message. I blocked him/her again, this time for a week. If this keeps up, maybe it should go to one of the admin noticeboards for some additional opinions. Best, --MCB 05:26, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Jumpaclass

This is an invitation to use WP:BAY's Jumpaclass option for improving articles. If you're working on any Bay Area-related stub, start, or B-class articles, simply add their names to the list, and if any of the articles improve a class within a week, you'll be recognized for your contributions. If you have any questions about how it works, post on the talk page or on mine. Thanks for reading! — Emiellaiendiay 21:42, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your great feedback to the Affiliate marketing article

Hi MCB, thanks again for the in depth comments to the Affiliate marketing article. I really appreciate it. It will take me some time to go over everything and address every point you made.

I requested an editor review in February, but did not get any reviews yet. I like your honesty and directness as well as your ability to unbiased evaluation and assessment. I would like to invite you to review me and provide objective comments to what you see as positive and things where you see improvements needed. You don't have to do it if you don't want to, but I would greatly appreciate it, if you would do that for me. Thank you. --roy<sac> ^Talk! .oOo. 04:56, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Hi MCB. It took me a while, but I finally was able to provide all the comments to your comments to the affiliate marketing article. See here. I was also out of the country until now[3], which was another reason for the delay. Take your time to provide your answers. You can also pick one comment at a time, if you'd like. Thanks and Cheers! --roy<sac> ^Talk! .oOo. 12:15, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Kitabatake clan article

You recently removed a disambiguation that only pointed to deleted articles, and reverted it to a previous article - that article was deleted as a copyright violation from samurai-archives.com (http://www.samurai-archives.com/dictionary/k2.html) - it was one of the two disambiguated articles that was deleted. I would appreciate it if you would delete the current Kitabatake clan article, as it is a copyright violation, stolen from the above link at samurai-archives.com (listed under "Kitabatake (Ise)" on the samurai-archives website). Thanks. Also, there are three or four other "Japanese clans" disambiguation links that now point to empty articles because the articles were copyright violations as well - since they point to non-existant articles, but reverting them would bring up a copyright violating article, those should be deleted as well (or left up as a disambig that only points to deleted articles). --Kuuzo 07:39, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! --Kuuzo 19:58, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

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Image copyright issue

In regards to your message, the image has been re-deleted. The image was from Associated Press. Associated Press makes it living from providing its subscribers and readers with informative content, enhanced by commercial photography. We cannot then take that photography, which they pay for and relicense, and use it to illustrate our articles and claim with absolutely certainty that there is no commercial impact, or claim with absolute certainty that our use is transformative. Our Wikipedia:Fair use guidelines are written from the understanding that, as a free content project, our fair use claims will be extremely conservative, and do not anticipate users wanting to test the limits of the United States fair use doctrine. Nevertheless, counterexample #5 at Wikipedia:Fair use mentions this sort of usage explicitly. If you know of any other images like this, please do nominate them for deletion.

The fact that you are an administrator here obviously means that you are committed to the project, and have made many good contributions, and I hope that you understand that this is appreciated. It would nevertheless be inappropriate for me to treat you any differently than any other uploader when it comes to copyright concerns, and what we can publish through the project. I'm sure that you can appreciate that. On a related note, if you would like to publish unfree media through Wikipedia, please do so through the normal upload process instead of through using the undeletion tool. Thanks for understanding. Jkelly 22:47, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

I think I need to clarify a couple of points. Most importantly, I am not in this instance responding to a copyright holder complaint or anything of the kind; I'm just acting in my capacity as an administrator on the project and deleting unfree content that could be seen as infringing. I'd like to encourage you to adopt a practice of "when in doubt, delete" when it comes to potentially infringing media. Secondly, I think that we need to be clear that an act of undeletion is an act of republishing by a user. Thirdly, Wikipedia:Fair use and fair use are two very different things. As our m:Mission is to provide educational free content, we deliberately restrict ourselves to conservative and uncontroversial claims of fair use. Finally, I want to be clear that I think it is important for every admin to boldly act unilaterally when concerned about copyright infringement or libel, and for any such content to remain deleted until the point at which such fears are allayed, I was not in this case the person who deleted the image a second time, User:Jimbo Wales was. Jkelly 00:48, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

The deletion log shows Jkelly as the second deleter of Image:S7crash.jpg not User:Jimbo Wales. I'm confused at this. -Nv8200p talk 13:11, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

I see Jimbo was the second deleter of Image:Il-76 shootdown.jpg. -13:14, 31 March 2007 (UTC)— Preceding unsigned comment added by Nv8200p (talk • contribs)

Well, I'll offer some personal opinion on a couple of points you raised. You asked "Who makes fair use determinations?", and the only real response to that is that we all do. When there are real concerns about infringement, the appropriate response is to, at least in the short term, stop republishing the material. There is a conversation at WT:FU#Penny_Arcade_.28webcomic.29.23American_Greetings, for instance, where someone reasonably suggested that the rationale for a particular image was insufficient. I argued that we were, or at least the we could potentially, make a compelling fair use argument for the image. If the person expressing concern had deleted the image, the perogative would be upon me to make a convincing argument that the usage was within our policy, and not to use my admin tools to ensure that we kept republishing the material because I believed that it was okay. In response to your question about news agency photos, it is indeed the case that our conservative approach to unfree media means that we will not be able to compete with commercial news agencies in terms of professional photography for news events. Going forward, we will increasingly close the gap, due to citizen journalism and dissemination of bystander photography, but a substantial portion of the second half of the twentieth century will, in the short term, not be as well illustrated as that of websites that purchase photographs from Getty or Corbis. It may be that this will not be compensated for through purchase or donation, but efforts along those lines are being made. Jkelly 19:08, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Hitting the Nail on the Fair use Head

You wrote: First, who makes Fair use determinations? In the absence of an OFFICE action, or direct response to an OTRS ticket, it seems that neither a consensus of editors (i.e., the xfD process) nor individual expertise (this is a field in which I have considerable professional experience, including both teaching copyright law and acting as a consulting expert in IP cases) is sufficient, but instead unilateral action based on an personal interpretation of policy is encouraged. And this is exactly the problem I have with Wikipedia Fair Use... if a fair use claim doesn't meet the standards of the most strict, most anti-fair use editor, it's gone. But then again, I think fair use, on the whole, will be gone from Wikipedia within the next year; there seems to be growing (or at least, vocal) support for a "German" solution (Wiki-DE doesn't allow fair use, and it's often held up as the model EN should be emulating.) ...if any one of Wikipedia's 1000+ admins thinks an image use does not meet Fair Use, it will be deleted, and I don't think that reflects policy. Sadly, it does. It's a combo-pack that's all kinds of disheartening and discouraging. Jenolen ^{speak it!} 05:59, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

User:SatyrBot and {{LocateMeBot}}

Hi! Have you done any work on moving the LocateMeBot tags to the talk pages? SatyrBot has been unblocked and is working again, so I can make that run if you'd like. Let me know on my talk page? Thanks -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 17:12, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

On the deletion of just-created stubs

Regarding the deletion of an article stub created on David Ifshan: Weak. The article was a stub with a source provided. Other articles don't even have any sources on Wikipedia. Don't expect everyone to establish notability on the first creation of an encyclopedic entry. And don't expect information to be submitted in relatively complete form. Stubs are stubs for a reason. Others can then follow a piece of information and add to it. There should be a window of time (in years) for notability to be established.

An encyclopedia with functional limits (ie.. a printed encyclopedia which would be become cumbersome and unwieldy if it collected all information) should be limited by notability constraints. However, an electronic encyclopedia with unlimited growth potential, and that can remain searchable and functional with endless information, should not speedily destroy information that has been added to it.

If I am a researcher interested in the Illuminati, for example, and I come to Wikipedia and find nothing on the topic, then I am likely to do one of two things: speedily move on to other sources of information, or create a stub. If the stub is deleted, I'm likely to write off Wikipedia as a valid source altogether and waste no further time submitting information to it.

Whether you believe it or not, there are powers at work to limit what is known, what is recorded, what is thought. There are things that only become significant with certain other information. Don't expect that editors will recognize significance immediately, nor for benevolent contributors to have to make all the connections for you.

To believe that you have the right to "speedily delete" information in such a public resource is a slippery slope that has the makings of information control, the very thing it is assumed this site does not do.

Finally, this policy does not encourage me to spend any more time submitting information to this site. You have decided what should and should not be and why. Under these terms, if you want a holistic information resource, you're going to have to build it yourself. -- Michael.W.Wood 17 April 2007

Responded on your talk page. Thanks, --MCB 21:22, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Twinkle

Hiya. I don't know if you ever got twinkle working or not. But I'm using Firefox 2.0.0.3 and OS X 10.4.9 also, and I've got twinkle working, so if you want to try replacing your monobook.js with mine (messy, I know) it might fix the prob. Or at least let you know for sure that the problem is elsewhere. Good luck. CitiCat 23:46, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

Henry Pollack

Hi I re-worked the article on Enrique A. Pollack that was deleated. I have asked to have it reinstated based on the rewrite and additional sources.. I was wondering if you would reconsider having it placed again. Thanks..Callelinea 23:56, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

Perhaps I am new to this but to me an online encyclopedia should be very inclusive and not exclusive. Mr. Pollack's radio show has a large following both in South Florida and in Cuba where it is heard also. He has been on the air for over 10 years. He has a political web site that has been online for almost 10 years also. Besides that he has appeared in many local South Florida programs, has been interviewed many times by local papers ( yes maybe only a line or two) because he is a well-known local personality. And he caused enough of a ruckus during the Human Rights discussion by the UN in Geneva that the Cuban government felt it was necessary to mention him by name and explain his actions in a formal protest to United Nations. I a not going to get petty but I looked over an article that you mentioned in your list of articles mentioned JTV and the only reference that is given for that small local cable TV station is a link to its own web site. I feel that this article merits inclusion much more than that article but I also believe that both articles have a place here. Callelinea 18:35, 15 May 2007 (UTC) Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_review/Log/2007_May_12"

• • • Alright here are some more articles. The first one is actually all about Mr. Pollack and the rest he shows up prominantly in them.. I searched them in a newspaper web search engine ( http://nl.newsbank.com/nl-search/we/Archives) he was easy to find. These show the name of the newspaper, the date of the article, and the title of the article.
      • El Nuevo Herald - May 19, 2000 - HENRY POLLACK: VEHEMENCIA ALTERNATIVA
      • The Miami Herald - July 25, 2001 - E-MAIL VIRUS ARRIVES IN MESSAGE PURPORTEDLY FROM CUBA
      • The Miami Herald - August 25, 1998 - CUBAN MUSICIANS FACE PROTEST
      • El Nuevo Herald - October 18, 1996 - RADIO REBELDE Y EMISORA DEL EXILIO UNEN FUERZAS PARA EMERGENCIA DE CICLON
      • El Nuevo Herald - September 23, 1996 - RADIO DE CUBA REHUSA DEBATE RADIAL CON MIAMI
      • The Miami Herald - August 22, 1995 - REACHING CUBA WITH ROCK 'N' ROLL
      • El Nuevo Herald - August 22, 1995 - HAVANA ROCK: NUEVAS ONDAS DE LIBERTAD RADIAL A CUBA

Does this help in changing the minds of those of you who do not believe he is notable or that he does not have enough references?Callelinea 20:46, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Responded on your Talk page. Thanks, --MCB 22:52, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Michael.. Thanks for pushing me to look further.. Callelinea 02:30, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Reverse Mortgage

Hello MCB,

Thank you for contacting me and explaining the reason my contribution does not meet the guidelines for inclusion on the reverse mortgage page. I appreciate you taking the time to clarify the rules for me, and I do understand.

However, can you explain why reference number 4 is acceptable, since it is a completely commercial site as well? http://www.newretirement.com/Services/Reverse_Mortgage_Fees.aspx

They sell financial planning services, and insurance products like annuities and long term care insurance, as well as referrals of reverse mortgage applicants to lenders.

Thanks again for your help.Sioris 19:34, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

How To Reach Specific Administrator

Hello MCB,

You assisted me last week with editing the Reverse Mortgage page in Wikipedia. However, the administrator HU12 is the one that initiated the "SPAM" warning to me. His talk page does not allow messages to be left. It says, if he made comments on my talk page, that he is watching my talk page.

He has not responded to any of the comments that I have left on my talk page. I am particulary interested in knowing why my contribution to the "resource" links would be unaccaptable while leaving 3 other completely Commercial external links intact.

The link that I placed in the article was on topic with regard to what happens to the heirs when the reverse mortgage ends, and landed on a specific page addressing that very issue.

Broker Universe (link number 4) has been added in the last couple of days and is a mortgage lead site.

Lending Hand Finance (link number 1) is a commercail website.

New Retirement (link number 5) is a commercial website.

I do not mind playing by the rules, but am wondering why the rules do not apply uniformaly across the board to all contributors.

Your feedback is appreciated, as well as any information on how I can specifically get in touch with HU12.

Thanks Again. Sioris 18:08, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

User:Atlpimpin770

With respect, you may not be ideally placed to make this call. In the absence of a qualifier like "my ride," I'm going to assume it refers to what it appears to refer to, viz. the facilitation or provision of a prostitute in the arrangement of a sex act with a customer. You may wish to consult female admin about whether she finds this practice, and hence this username, offensive, per 5: Offensive usernames. --Rrburke^(talk) 19:17, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

Hi, and thanks for your reply. When you say "current slang usage," you appear to mean current American slang usage, and appear to be applying current practice among a fairly narrow American age-demographic (and sex-demographic as well, in all likelihood: I suspect this usage enjoys less currency among women, perhaps for obvious reasons) as a universal yardstick to measure offensiveness. On the other hand, English Wikipedia is read and edited worldwide -- including, for example, in India, which ranks high in the list of countries with the greatest number of English speakers. I doubt the sense of pimp you adduce enjoys any currency there at all (or, really, anywhere outside of North America), or that there the word has any sense that is not offensive, whatever a teenager in Altanta who wants to call himself Atlpimpin may intend.

It's for this reason, moreover, that I'm not persuaded the intention of the username's creator is necessarily apposite.

Cheers. --Rrburke^(talk) 21:13, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your help with Halfway house

Just to say thanks for reverting Halfway house (disambiguation). You may note on the anonymous user's talk page, I said I had made a mistake, which is true -- I thought I'd created a page about the novel last night that linked from the disambiguation page, but it turned out to be sitting in my sandbox (duh). Anyway, I gave him/her the benefit of the doubt for over-writing my link, because it really was a redline for about 12 hours, and so didn't give him an initial vandalism warning. But I think you've called it correctly. If s/he wants to go ahead and lay out pages about slang names for aspects of pub crawls, we can deal with them later. Cheers. Accounting4Taste 21:06, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

COI Templates.

Hi, I'm sending you a message because of your involvement with the Wikipedia:Templates_for_deletion/Log/2007_May_18#Template:COI_and_Template:COI2 discussion. The result of the TfD was no-consensus, but there was a significant expressed consensus for editing the templates to bring them into line with good practice. Unfortunately this has not happened, and the templates have been left pretty much in the state they were before the TfD. Would you like to assist in bringing these templates in line with good practice? --Barberio 16:44, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Proposal for complete deletion of section GAWC 1999 Edition [4] !

Reasons: a) outdated study published 8 years ago (conducted even earlier) b) 2004 Edition is available and reflects the current state c) presenting two editions is no extra information value d) The GAWC 1999 studies in general pretends to define a status of major cities but only focuses economic data. This is misleading and already resulted in a widespread citation within Wikipedia major city articles. Proposal: If there are no multiple serious arguments for keeping it, the section should be deleted within the next 7 days. all the best Lear 21 15:18, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

June 2007 Wikiproject Food and Drink Newsletter

WikiProject Food and Drink Newsletter June 2007

Chris Daly Redux

Thanks for contacting me. I thought I was the only one riding herd on this article. I don't think those are Telogen's sock puppets. It's just some guy at a computer. I'd appreciate it if you'd protect the page for a while. It helped last time. My best. Griot 23:31, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

On another subject, would you mind looking into the sock puppet at the Ralph Nader article? I think that guy might be Telogen. Griot 00:23, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Chris Daly Redux Redux

The anon at Chris Daly is going nuts, puttng up Notability, Conflict of Interest, Tone, and Cleanup notices,as shown here. Can yhou please block this article to anons? Thanks. Griot 16:41, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, friend. Griot 18:02, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Chris Daly Part Trois

A reply to the message you left on my "talk" page (if everyone calls them "talk" pages, then why does the tab always say "discussion"?):

Well, first of all, it's not my "personal summary"; I didn't even write the paraphrase. But the salient point is that certain editors feel there's something sacrosanct about the M&R quote, which is ludicrous. This is not a public official being quoted, nor a well-known source, but a couple of newspaper columnists who are paid, after all, to dig dirt and dish. Hardly encyclopedic stuff, I'd say. Also sounds like you, or some of the other editors defending this, have an anti-Daly agenda they'd like to work in here if possible. Look, the original source material is only a couple of clicks away for those who are interested, and there's plenty of other hot stuff there about Daly's behavior as it is; what's the big deal? +ILike2BeAnonymous 08:01, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

Philosophy of Travel

Hello! I have entirely re-written the offending article I started (Philosophy of travel) - I see what you mean about it being the wrong style. Is it more appropriate now? I think it now has more of a useable framework. I took off the prod notice - was that the correct thing to do? Is it now safe? Must I do anything else? PSBennett 08:00, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

Hello! Thank you for your help so far - can I make another request? I think there is a way of flagging an article to ask for help with it - I would like to see the Philosophy of travel grow but I am rather inexperienced at using this system. Thanks so much. PSBennett 23:02, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

July 2007 Wikiproject Food and Drink Newsletter

WikiProject Food and Drink Newsletter July 2007--Christopher Tanner, CCC 19:14, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

AfD Help

Hi, six of my articles have put up by AfD by the same person and are being voted on all by the same persons.. I was wondering if you could look the articles over and the things written on the discussion pages and give me your honest answer as to should they be up for vote or am I being paranoid? The articles are:

• Miguel Luis Tamargo-Bautista
• Vinagre Portillo
• Alonso J. del Portillo-Tamargo
• Alonso R. del Portillo
• Alonso del Portillo-Marcano
• Alonso del Portillo-del Junco

Last week I lost one of my articles and I thought it was a good faith AfD but now with six more up for vote this week I think there is more behind these AfD then good faith. Callelinea 13:17, 3 July 2007 (UTC)