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I neither closed the discussion, nor speedy deleted it. — BRIAN0918 • 2007-04-30 23:09Z
- That's the first time I've heard that username, but thanks for the implication. Clearly there must be something going on beteween your account and the Chiinners account for you to feel the need to make an implication against me. — BRIAN0918 • 2007-05-01 13:34Z
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Darwin Arms
Hi NBeale, sorry I didn't post any comments when I put the arms of Charles Darwin up yesterday. It had been a busy day and I was just to tired to comment once I'd put the work up. I didn't think anyone would be bothered by it anyway. The arms were specifically granted to him (though I am tripple-checking just to make sure). Coats of arms are never granted to a family, but to a person. (Or inheritted by specific individuals, such as Charles.) That's why it could certainly go into Charles' page. Alternatively I guess it could go to the Darwin-Wedgewood family. I'd just hate to have put in a substantial amount of work on it and have it lost due to space considerations. :) Any advice? A1 Aardvark (talk) 05:47, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
- I hate to remove something that has taken quite a lot of work. But it might be better to have it in the D-W family. According to this it is a family coat of arms. NBeale (talk) 08:09, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
- That website would not be considered a reliable source; and it is certainly true that at any given moment, a coat of arms is properly held by the current heir to it. If Darwin is himself the grantee (and only if), it would be appropriate in his article; just as the arms which Shakespeare paid to have granted to his father, and to which he was the heir, would be appropriate on Shakespeare's article. --Orange Mike | Talk 21:05, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
Keira Knightley
Hi. Following your revert, your input is sought on the Keira Knightley talk page. Thanks. --Escape Orbit (Talk) 00:45, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
OpenAccessforScience - subsequently Nicholas Beale
Hi NBeale, Thanks for your message regarding the deletion of e-Century Publishing...Although feel bit of disappointed, I'll respect the decision based on the consensus. To be honest, still I do not think the "consensus" on this deletion is well-informed since some of us may not really know what this “company” is doing. As I mentioned in the original discussion of AfD for this article, we cannot judge the notability of e-Century Publishing with the criteria that we are using for a music band, a local Pisa restaurant, etc, and we should not judge it as un-notable because of it is too young (2 years old). e-CPC is actually publishing five free real professional medical journals, with four of them indexed in the ultimate database for the medical science---Pubmed and Pubmed Central, the achievements which may take decades to reach for a new publisher like this. In addition, it is indeed well accepted by the medical communities as you can see from the journals published by this publisher. Since I am new to Wikipedia in terms of article contribution, and surely have lots to learn, do you think that it would be appropriate to take this case to "deletion review" which may take all of us too much time since most of us have the full time research jobs? Your advice will be highly appreciated....Happy New Year!OpenAccessforScience (talk) 18:33, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
- Hi. Thanks for your message. FWIW I have been spectacularly unsuccessful re deletions - despite having co-authored a clearly WP:N book the article on Nicholas Beale has been deleted 4 times and is now in userspace awaiting improvement and possibly a Deletion Review when it meets various people's concerns.
- In the absence of any 3rd party coverage of e-century I don't think it will be at all easy to get a DRV. Suggest you put it in the incubator and see what happens. There is also the worry about WP:COI since I suspect you may be connected with the company (as of course I am with N.B.) We could try mutual assistance perhaps ;-) NBeale (talk) 18:59, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
- 1) You did not write the book; you co-authored the book, with a clearly more notable co-author. Just because the book and/or your collaborator are notable, does not make you so.Notability is not contagious. 2) You should wait for others to write an article about subjects in which you are personally involved. This applies to articles about you, your achievements, your band, your business, your publications, your website, your relatives, and any other possible conflict of interest.
- Creating an article about yourself is strongly discouraged. If you create such an article, it might be listed on articles for deletion. Deletion is not certain, but many feel strongly that you should not start articles about yourself. This is because independent creation encourages independent validation of both significance and verifiability. All edits to articles must conform to Wikipedia:No original research, Wikipedia:Neutral point of view, and Wikipedia:Verifiability.
- If you are not "notable" under Wikipedia guidelines, creating an article about yourself may violate the policy that Wikipedia is not a personal webspace provider and would thus qualify for speedy deletion. If your achievements, etc., are verifiable and genuinely notable, and thus suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia, someone else will probably create an article about you sooner or later. (See Wikipedia:Wikipedians with articles.) Thank you. --Orange Mike | Talk 18:22, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
- Mike - to avoid confusion (since your comment is about me not OpenAccessforScience) I'll copy this only my userpage and reply there. NBeale (talk) 19:10, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
- Mike - WP:AUTHOR says "3.The person has created, or played a major role in co-creating, a significant or well-known work, or collective body of work, that has been the subject of an independent book or feature-length film, or of multiple independent periodical articles or reviews." The is no doubt that I co-authored Questions of Truth (FWIW I wrote about 70% of it), that it is notable, significant and well-known in its field. It has been reviewed in the Financial Times (by Julian Baggini) the New Humanist (by AC Grayling), Publishers Weekly, Library Journal, the bulletin of the Institute of Physics and other periodicals specialising in science and religion. And it has been the subject of special meetings, at which Polkinghorne and I have been the main speakers, at the AAAS (chaired by the then President) the Royal Society (chaired by the then President of the British Academy) the Royal Institution (chaired by Stuart Sutherland) and at Cambridge University (chaired by Simon Conway Morris as well as us having given a joint talk at the Hay Festival. There can be no question about meeting this guideline. Yet when a new user (apparently in New Mexico) created an article it was speedy deleted and then snowed. Ridiculous! NBeale (talk) 19:10, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
- If you are not "notable" under Wikipedia guidelines, creating an article about yourself may violate the policy that Wikipedia is not a personal webspace provider and would thus qualify for speedy deletion. If your achievements, etc., are verifiable and genuinely notable, and thus suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia, someone else will probably create an article about you sooner or later. (See Wikipedia:Wikipedians with articles.) Thank you. --Orange Mike | Talk 18:22, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
- Orange--can you give me the best deleted copy of the article on Beale, to review? I may use it to write an article. Thanks.--Epeefleche (talk) 20:17, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
- User:Jmt007/Nicholas Beale isn't bad. --Orange Mike | Talk 21:02, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
- Since I can't judge the quality of each revision and have little interest in reading all of them, I've restored the entire article history to User:Epeefleche/Nicholas Beale, where people can choose which version they prefer. Note that I have never made any statement on whether the topic is article-worthy, and thus I don't really care if anyone takes it to DRV or whatever; I only deleted a version of the article that was poor and met the speedy deletion criteria (as upheld by numerous editors in the 4th AfD) and I have no interest whatsoever in the other versions of the article (other than to point out that they were all deleted by community consensus). rʨanaɢ talk/contribs 21:18, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
- Undoubtedly the article by Jmt007 was "poor" - it was his/her first attempt at an article. But the AfD was closed after only 1.5 hours and no-one was given the chance to improve the article or to deal with the WP:N issue. Given the (as far as I can see) complete clarity of the position about WP:AUTHOR noted above I hope it will be possible for independent expert editors, such as yourself, Mike and Epeefleche, to get this into an acceptable form. There has also since then been a full page article in the FT mainly about the work I do with Bob May & colleagues at Harvard as well as a couple of other relevant publications. I am of course happy to offer suggestions on a talk page but for obvious reasons would prefer not to make any substantive edits to the article. Many thanks. NBeale (talk) 22:45, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
You deleted a section heading in Charles Darwin
Just a note to inform you that you (apparently accidentally) deleted the "See also" section heading in this fairly important featured article, in this edit [1] which you made on 18Dec2009. It's embarrassing that this sort of big obvious error doesn't get fixed for 12 days in such an oft-viewed article, while several editors were busily arguing and almost edit-warring about minutiae.
Anyway I fixed it, not a big deal, please be more careful next time, thanks! --Seattle Skier (talk) 06:25, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
- Oops - Thanks. But at least we solved the Arms mystery with some moderately deep research. NBeale (talk) 07:37, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
Welcome
I am estatic to see another veteran editor joining our 300 strong squad. A warm welcome! We have several projects going on beyond saving articles, including a newsletter, check the talk page.
Hi, NBeale, welcome to the Article Rescue Squadron! We are a growing community of Wikipedia editors dedicated to identifying and rescuing articles that have been tagged for deletion. Every day hundreds of articles are deleted, many rightfully so. But many concern notable subjects and are poorly written, which can be fixed and should not be deleted. We try to help these articles quickly improve and address the concerns of why they are proposed for deletion. This covers a lot of ground and your help is appreciated!
If you have any questions, feel free to post a question on the talk page. And once again — Welcome! Ikip 15:02, 31 December 2009 (UTC) |
- A pleasure - I wish I had known about this earlier. NBeale (talk) 00:38, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
Inre this
Thank you for the aknowledgement... but I actually only "!voted" once... and then added a "note" about continued improvements. However, I just indented the "note" to eleviate any possible future confusions. You had me worried. Whew. Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 00:42, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
- Oops - sorry. You're right of course. Great rescue work! NBeale (talk) 09:21, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
Professor Kils
The DFG offered to send a certificate directly to WIKIPEDIA. Can You please give me an address. I also wrote to the Consulate to give you prove of the EB-1 visa but they are always slow. Happy New Year Uwe Kils 16:01, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
- Happy New Year. I have no idea how this should be done, you will need to ask an Admin. NBeale (talk) 16:46, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
here is the original Press Notice of the HEISENBERG FELLOWSHIP Kils
http://web.archive.org/web/20020128203143/ecoscope.com/heisenbe.htm you can contact the Media Office if you want a signed copy from the University
there you can also see, that I was faculty at the CHRISTIAN ALBRECHTS UNIVERSITÄT in Kiel, do have a Dr. title and a habilitation in Marine Biology Uwe Kils 14:34, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
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AfD nomination of George Lee (British politician)
An article that you have been involved in editing, George Lee (British politician), has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/George Lee (British politician) (2nd nomination). Thank you.
Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. rʨanaɢ talk/contribs 22:57, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
- If you're wondering, the reason I nominated this article for deletion is because I noticed it when I was going through your contributions to make a list of your positive edits. I have been considering proposing that you be banned from articles or policies related to yourself, if you must know, and in preparation I have been putting together a list of your good edits to demonstrate why you should still be allowed to edit other areas of the encyclopedia. It was during that process that I came across the George Lee article and noticed it was not substantially different from the old version, so I made a procedural nomination for AfD—if you didn't notice, I have not expressed a strong opinion either way at the AfD and have not responded to any of the users commenting there. rʨanaɢ talk/contribs 10:46, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
Strange vendetta
Very amusing... Have you stopped to consider the posibility that several editors (and not just the two you pick out) are concerned about misuse of Wikipedia, and are watching you because you have a tendency to break the rules? Maybe you are the one out of step? GNUSMAS : TALK 10:50, 24 January 2010 (UTC)