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New user help

I just created an account and started an article on a non profit organization. Still interested in 'adopting'? I could use all the help I can get.

--Artemislon (talk) 06:36, 15 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Bilby. I created a draft article in my user page. Once I'm ready, is there a way for me to send it to you for review before submission? I'm still a bit confused about how the whole process works. --Artemislon (talk) 04:14, 19 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

information systems?

came over here to say I answered you, in case you didn't watch list the page. Not sure if that is automatic. But given what you do perhaps you could cast an eye over:

Stop_Online_Piracy_Act#Bill_mandates_at_odds_with_internet_structure

which tries to explain why mandating a national access control list will not allow federal agents to "just remove the offending page of a website." Since that's a mindbogglingly ridiculous idea, no RS has refuted it yet, but there seem to be lots of wikipedia articles to link to. That section is done (I think). I could also really use help with some other sections, if you have the time or expertise or know someone who does.

  • DNSSEC
  • an explanation of why it is bad to have conflicting entries in recursive servers
I know propagation happens but don't know the specifics of how this gets resolved. I guess I'll go look at the Crocker-Vixie paper again.
  • need RS for 4chan and Anonymous opposition
  • international community on US control of internet. I wrote something up about ICANN,IANA, Verisign and the US Dept of Commerce, which apparently did not explain the issue very well, since it got deleted. But if it's already a problem that the United States controls the root server and .com etc, surely using that control to enforce US cpyright is not going to make US control seem like a better idea to the likes of India.

all these need to be really brief tho, which is hard, because the are complicated. But a review of the "at odds with structure of the internet" section would be a great start.

And now you know what bit of silliness *I* am fighting. 75.149.44.10 (talk) 04:39, 21 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

the above post by me, sorry Elinruby (talk) 00:26, 22 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
That looks like a really interesting problem. And a difficult one. I've watchlisted the page, and I'll do some reading to catch up on the issues - I was aware of the Act, but need to look into it some more to get a better picture of the issues. - Bilby (talk) 03:09, 22 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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'Inappropriate'

I hope you are having the same conversation with User:WLRoss about the "inappropriate" tagging of other editors' comments? Are you having that discussion, and reverting his edit as well? Liangshan Yi (talk) 16:04, 24 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I've never liked the SPA tags, and typically only see value in them during AfDs. In an open discussion they don't work for me. That said, they are established as a means of identifying people, and seem to be accepted practice. Thus there's nothing I can do there. I can only hope that other editors recognise that having a narrow focus isn't indicative of a problem. - Bilby (talk) 10:57, 25 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

WP:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#User:Phoenix and Winslow

Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. This is in regards to P&Ws ongoing personal attacks. Cheers. Wayne (talk) 17:31, 27 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

FYI I have just noticed that Phoenix and Winslow has accounts on the Spanish, German, Norwegian, Russian and Swedish Wikipedias that have made no edits outside of their respective Ugg Boot articles. I'm beginning to think there is some corporate connection. Wayne (talk) 04:49, 30 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I had seen the German and Spanish versions - the latter of which makes me think that there is a real problem here. You may be right about a COI, but they're particularly hard to determine. - Bilby (talk) 09:06, 30 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Please sign your checks in this CCI (like the others) so that others are able to see who is behind them. Thanks. MER-C 10:39, 28 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry - I should have remembered that. Shall do. - Bilby (talk) 10:43, 28 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. MER-C 11:59, 28 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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NPOV and Civility

Hey there. I'm a little distressed over the lack of civility and productivity going on with NPOV page. I thought Ugg boots looked pretty cleaned up a few months ago with two equally valuable perspectives given their fair share. I'm asking you to consider each one on their own individual merit. I think there's been too much emotion and shouting going on recently and I'd like to steer this in a more productive direction.--Factchk (talk) 20:45, 30 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I certainly won't object to being civil or considering both sides - I've been doing so, but this has always been a heated debate. Given that, I'm not sure why you raise this point here, but I guess that's your prerogative. - Bilby (talk) 23:19, 30 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I raised it there because it seemed like a good place to try and promote a compromise as things seemed to be more heated than usual. Thanks for the input. It was helpful. I hadn't noticed that the page already recognized the non-use which is good. Perhaps I'll re-post on the Talk page so others can see. I would be willing to support a disambiguation page or splitting off the trademark dispute. Its fair to question whether the number of issues clogs up the entry.--Factchk (talk) 02:50, 1 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Pune pilot analysis plan

Hi! As you were very active in discussions about the India Education Program's Pune pilot, I wanted to draw your attention to Wikipedia:India_Education_Program/Analysis, a page that documents our analysis plan for the next few months. I encourage you to join the discussion if you have any thoughts. -- LiAnna Davis (WMF) (talk) 23:11, 1 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for stepping in

Hi Bilby: As you can see, I was trying to straighten out the odd categorization that the anonymous 67.126.141.125 had been placing on all these sailors -- Robin Lee Graham;Tania Aebi; Jessica Watson; Jesse Martin; David Dicks; Michael Perham; Laura Dekker...It was late and I did not have the time to see it through. In particular, I forgot to change Jessica back to the youngest, after correctly pointing out that Laura Dekker had not yet finished her attempt. I agree 100% with your more accurate descriptions. Let's hope that the above user does not start another round of "silly walks"! --Skol fir (talk) 18:17, 4 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I found out that the anonymous user above is from the Los Angeles area. I wonder what his motives were to rank all these young sailors in order of when they became the youngest sailor. It seems kind of pointless to me, since only one of them currently is the youngest, and the order in which the others joined that rank seems irrelevant. It almost looks like some kind of test edit to me - pointless and clueless. Also, there were only two Americans on the list. He might have been trying to enhance their status because they were # 1 (1970) and # 2 (1987) in order of achieving that distinction! A bit of a selfish purpose for editing them all (and who knows, maybe a dislike for Jessica Watson who outwitted, outsmarted and outsailed poor Abby!) Who knows "what evil lurks in the minds of men!" lol --Skol fir (talk) 18:35, 4 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Hi! You could be right about the reasons - the user has a very narrow set of interests, and seems to have a focus on US circumnavigators of various types. :) In regard to the descriptions, the IP's additions were a bit ambiguous - and it occured to me that, technically speaking, Joshua Slockum held the "youngest circumnavigator" record at 54. :) Thus "fifth youngest" seems a bit odd in the way the IP meant. - Bilby (talk) 06:39, 5 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 05 December 2011

Thanks!

Bilby, thanks for cleaning up after me in the Plimer article. I am a new user so figuring everything out will take some time. I understand my error with the australian scientists stub, but if there are any other mistakes I make please drop me a line so that I learn from them! I appreciate your patience --Shadowy Sorcerer (talk) 18:42, 6 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The Barnstar of Diligence
For Cleaning up after the Newbies! Shadowy Sorcerer (talk) 18:45, 6 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Edward Morgan (choreographer)

Hi Bilby, thanks for setting me straight on Edward Morgan (choreographer). The old copyvio page has now been deleted. Should I at once put up my new version, or should we wait until the AfD is closed? I've never seen an AfD on an already-deleted page before... and don't see any particular reason why what I'm about to create should go straight to AfD, for that matter! So maybe less confusing to wait, I guess? Chiswick Chap (talk) 16:39, 8 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Please start the new article

Bilby,

You are a hero. Yust as I thought their was no one on wikipedia wanting to help you come along and save the day. I would love it if you could start the new article about the International Cadet Austrlain Championship. It would be realy great to have any sought of article and It would be great to keep as much of the infomation from my orignal article as possible. I would of course provide you with as many sourses as I could find (but not right now as I am going to bed). Yust a couple of things. I made it so many generic terms for these championsips find the article I created when searched for so these might have to go. Also I was wondering if it was possible, after the event gets started, to add results tables which were on my article but have been taken off.

I would love it if you could make this change (as I am new I don't know how to do it) then I would love to help edit.

Thank you so much, Tris.obrien (talk) 11:25, 13 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 12 December 2011

A barnstar for you!

The Brilliant Idea Barnstar
Thank you so much for writing the article and saving all my hard work Tris.obrien (talk) 23:31, 13 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

please undelete my article,i produced valid authenticated links,wikipedia is a pool of knowledge and it should not be made so complicated.BUT IF U COULD WRITE AN ARTICLE ABOUT AMITA BAJPAI I WOULD BE VERY HAPPY,AS U ARE MUCH MORE EXPERIENCED.(Cheekubaaj (talk) 12:04, 17 December 2011 (UTC))[reply]

Thanks for reverting the vandalism on my user talk page.
—Tom Morris (talk) 12:45, 17 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ugg boots at NPOVN

Hi! Just in case you didn't see it on WP:AN. theres a standing request for someone to close the discussion. My experience is that this can take a while, but I presume it will be handled some day. :) - Bilby (talk) 07:31, 16 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Yes, I was well aware. I just don't think the close would happen while discussion continues there. Donama (talk) 01:37, 18 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Adopt-a-user Program

Hello there! I've been doing some Gnome work around, generally maintenance of the New Pages and Recent Changes, but I'm looking for a more experienced user who'd be willing to "Adopt me" and help me work on researching topics and adding real content to pages. I'm wondering if you'd have the time to help me become a more productive member of the community, at least in regards to content?

It seems that you're doing pretty well as things stand. :) But I'm happy to help if wherever I can. - Bilby (talk) 13:39, 19 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Please Adopt Me

Catriona1029 Need Help 2 edits, both removed please help me


Hi, I'm a concordia student from montreal who needs help editing a Wikipedia page, it's my first time and I'm sure i'll need the help if you have the time! Thanks, (Steph kobe (talk) 19:17, 25 February 2012 (UTC))Steph Kobe[reply]

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The Signpost: 02 January 2012

A barnstar for you!

The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
For your work in helping unbite a user who had concerns about his biography at Wikipedia, Thomas Edsall, you definately went above and beyond what most users do. I noticed your work on the help desk, and you definitely deserve this barnstar. Jayron32 15:44, 3 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Well it appears Jayron got here first, but I wanted to say much the same thing. Bravo. --Floquenbeam (talk) 22:30, 3 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thankyou. :) But given the work both of you do to help users, I feel I've done very little in comparison - although I appreciate it a great deal. - Bilby (talk) 15:27, 5 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Uggs again lol

Found this interesting company history showing sales of Ugg boots under that name prior to Steadman and Smith.[1] May be relevant to the article?
What is an Ugg Boot?
It's not absolutely clear where the term Ugg originated, however, we believe “Ugg Boot” is a generic term that first originated in Australia and was used to describe the style of Sheepskin Boots worn by surfers to keep their feet warm after spending hours in the sea. These surfers, travelling the world in search of the perfect wave, brought the Ugg boot to Newquay in Cornwall in about 1973. Ever since then, Ugg boots have been made in Newquay.
The Celtic Sheepskin Co. originated in Newquay in 1973 as ‘Hide & Feet’ - making Ugg Boots and assorted leather goods. Nick Whitworth and his wife Kath – who had worn Ugg boots for years - bought the business in August 1990 from a local builder. In 1991 Nick registered the term UGG as a UK trademark and for the next 6 years trading continued under the new name of ‘The Original Ugg Co.’ With ever increasing sales, the popularity of Ugg spread around the UK, so a decision was made to concentrate on selling via mail order catalogue and of course via the web.
In 1994 Brian Smith from the USA Company of Ugg Holdings contacted Nick and came over to Newquay to discuss the purchase of the rights to use the term UGG. Negotiations slowed whilst Ugg Holdings were taken over by Deckers Outdoor Corporation, but finally in 1996 an agreement was reached whereby Deckers Outdoor Corporation licensed the use of the UGG trademark, with an option to purchase at a later date.
In the meantime Nick in Newquay changed the company name from The Original Ugg Co. to The Celtic Sheepskin Co. and re-christened the distinctive range of boots from Ugg boots to ‘Celt boots’. Wayne (talk) 18:01, 5 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I think I may have stumbled across that as well, and didn't know what to do with it. :) It is an interesting account. I've got another account that puts ugg boots as being invented in Adelaide. I guess when the article is opened up, we may need to spend time trying to cover the different accounts in some way. - Bilby (talk) 12:11, 6 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I find it significant that despite the Whitworth's registering the term UGG as a UK trademark they still considered the name "Ugg boots" generic when refering to the style. The account also demolishes the claim that the name was only generic in Australia and New Zealand. Wayne (talk) 12:53, 6 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Online Ambassador query

Greetings. I’m still somewhat confused about what goes where, so please excuse me if I don’t initially follow the right protocol. I’m writing to ask if you’d be a mentor for my course (the first in Arizona according to Tom Cloyd). I liked Reality Check’s page and hope that you can help me put together something similar. My course concerns children’s language development; it has 110 students and a teaching team of 11 (I’m the professor). If you agree to help me out, it’s important for you to know that from my perspective Wikipedia’s education arm has gone silent, so I have no CAs. Classes start next week, so I’m reducing this to a pilot (probably wise for other reasons too). I’ll use online materials to get a couple of my undergraduate preceptors into roughly CA-shape; one graduate student is interested in helping; and I myself am working to become more knowledgeable. But I’m impressively ignorant at this stage. I don’t even know how I’ll learn the answer to my question to you. – Cecile McKee or Cecilemckee (talk) 16:31, 6 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I have no idea what I'm doing wrong. But my message appears when saved with false false false and not much else. Cecilemckee (talk) 16:32, 6 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Bilby. I'll add you to my course page (although I haven't yet figured out many many aspects of editing that). Also, I don't think the false false business is my browser because it only happened to me on your Talk page. I used the same browser to contact two other potential online ambassadors and got a better result. Again, many thanks -- Cecilemckee (talk) 19:42, 7 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Wikiproject Cooperation

I just recently started Wikiproject Cooperation and I thought you would be interested. Thanks for your time. SilverserenC 01:16, 10 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 09 January 2012

Revert

Hi Bilby! Just FYI, I undid this edit, where you reverted User:Makeemlighter, who was closing a featured picture candidate as is appropriate. I assume this was a mistake? Jujutacular talk 22:27, 12 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thankyou! Sorry - I never even saw a page saying that I made a revert. I must have accidentally clicked on something and then move on to the correct page without noticing. - Bilby (talk) 22:30, 12 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

A kitten for you!

For helping to improve articles about Canberra Capitals players. :D

LauraHale (talk) 07:59, 14 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

If you think any of the Capitals players would be worth taking to Good Article with out huge amounts of work, let me know. :) --LauraHale (talk) 22:05, 14 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Shall do. Some look like they are certainly heading in the right direction, but I'm not sure if the sources are out there to get the overall coverage needed. One or two good, long interviews may be enough for that, though. - Bilby (talk) 22:27, 14 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Some of them just do not have the sources. : / Michaela Dalgleish seems like one of the potentially easier ones as she retired from basketball, but not my first choice of who I would like :) Marianna Tolo is probably one of the easier ones as I haven't really looked for sources for her. The article was mostly built as I found information about her looking for others. (The Xena thing? She appeared either on the front or back page of the Canberra Times with that image. I distinctly remember it, and it is why she is one of my favourite players.) If you want help creating articles about the Lightning, let me know. :) The Adelaide team is quite good. :)

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SarahStierch (talk) 21:13, 19 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Have some respect

I should not have to come and tell you about bite and expert retention. Have some respect for FlashingYoshi's intricate work. Wikipedia needs programmers, whilst I can see the future perfectly well, and know his work will be removed, I will not put up with him being shown such disrespect. Use the talkpage section that has already been written for this very purpose. Penyulap talk 19:56, 20 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, but I am afraid that I have no idea what you're talking about. Who is FlashingYoshi? - Bilby (talk) 21:15, 20 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Warning

Don't remove my comments from the talkpage without my permission. Penyulap talk 05:24, 22 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

That comment is extremely inappropriate and a potential BLP violation. Removing it quietly is the best way forward. - Bilby (talk) 05:26, 22 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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Language Development

Hello!

I wanted to introduce myself. I'm the CA for the Language Development course that you're working on as Online Ambassador. I just got back from training at the Wikimedia Foundation but because of communication issues was added on a little late. Anyways, I'm pretty new to Wikipedia and am grateful to have you and User:Cullen328 working on this too. I just met with User:cecilemckee and she wanted to make sure that the three of us stay away from content but focus on copyright issues, citations, formatting and other Wikipedia values. Luckily, the other CA's have taken the course before and will be working on content and course requirements. Thanks! Semccraw (talk)Semccraw —Preceding undated comment added 03:15, 23 January 2012 (UTC).[reply]

  • Thanks, Bilby. My concern is that students may interpret your suggestions for more reading as assignments. I've already given them assignments, and I don't want anyone confused about what my course requires. Best, Cecilemckee (talk) 18:26, 2 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Happy Australia Day! Thank you for contributing to Australian content!

Australian Wikimedian Recognition (AWR)
Thank you for your contributions on English Wikipedia that have helped improve Australian related content. :D It is very much appreciated. :D Enjoy your Australia Day and please continue your good work! LauraHale (talk) 02:52, 26 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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gang rape

yeah i didn't know how, and there is unlikely to be a 2010 or 2013 gang rape of this magnitude IMO not that richmond has any lack of rapes. do i need to take an action or have you made the change?LuciferWildCat (talk) 01:18, 30 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Ugg page

As the page is locked I have set it up in my sandbox and made test changes per talk to see how it looks. I have also rewritten the history a bit. The page should not be seen as a replacement but one we can do test edits on. Feel free to have a look, make changes if you like and/or comment on the sandbox talk page. I have posted this message on several editors talk pages. Despite P&W's usual claims in this regard, we have a consensus for the edits per talk page so if we (editors who have shown they can work together and compromise if needed) can agree on how the article page reads it may avoid the inevitable long winded discussions in Talk once the page is unlocked. Wayne (talk) 22:38, 5 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. Thanks. If I get the chance I'll have a look. :) - Bilby (talk) 07:23, 6 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Rollback

Hi Bilby, may I inquire as to why you reverted this edit using rollback? Salvio Let's talk about it! 22:20, 10 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! Thanks for letting me know - it seems I hit revert while closing the window on the iPad. I've fixed it now, I think - a tad longer than I would have wished, due to intervening edits, but it should be back the way it was meant to be. (I also just noticed that I accidentally logged out as well. Oh well. So much for touch screens). - Bilby (talk) 22:50, 10 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Don't worry, I'm an expert when it comes to hitting rollback by mistake. Do you want me to revdel your IP? Salvio Let's talk about it! 22:52, 10 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
No need for revdel - it changes every day, and I don't hide who I am. :) Thanks again for letting me know about my stuff up, though. - Bilby (talk) 23:06, 10 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

CCI review

Looks like we were reviewing Bruneau – Jarbidge Rivers Wilderness at the same time. I'm not absolutely sure that removal is necessary. The source was a page associated with Public Lands, which is associated with the Department of the Interior, which is the Federal government. If it is a Fed work product, then we need a pd template. However, as it is the work product of Public Lands Interpretive Association, I'm not sure of the status. If you are, please fill me in, if not, I'll check further.--SPhilbrick(Talk) 16:11, 13 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry about the conflict, then. :) In this case, I went for removal because the page had a copyright tag for PLIA at http://www.publiclands.org/explore/site.php?id=7948, so I figured to err on the side of assuming that the content from that page fell under the copyright claim. If they've taken it from Public Lands, then they're not the original source, and I agree with you that it would not be copyrighted. I'm happy to defer to your judgement as to which way to go. :) On the plus side, only two sections to complete now, albeit big ones. I'll probably sleep and try to help out in the morning. - Bilby (talk) 16:17, 13 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I should add that I have that page marked for me to rewrite the section - where I'm not sure about the copyright of possibly public domain text, I tend to try and rewrite to sidestep the problem. If it wasn't 3am I'd be giving that a shot now. :) - Bilby (talk) 16:20, 13 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
No need to be sorry; the CCI area is so underpopulated, that bumping into someone is a pleasure. Nice work.
To be honest, I missed the copyright notice. It is in light gray under the disclaimer and privacy notice links, which I checked to see if there was a copyright. In facty, when I went to the page you linked, my first reaction was, "I've checked this page!" But there it is. I think the original editor should be gently informed (Blue Canoe). Do you want to do it?
Given the copyright notice, your deletion was quite correct. Plus, I think it makes sense to err on the safe side, but I thought there was some chance the material was pd, so I wanted to see if you had looked into it. You had, so we are fine, except for reminding Blue Canoe not to copy paste. If it is 3am there, you may not even see this for some time, but let's agree on who should inform Blue Canoe at some time. I'll move on to a different CCI, there are plenty to choose from.--SPhilbrick(Talk) 16:36, 13 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I'm happy to chat with him. I'll leave a message today. The notice was almost impossible to see - I've been doing some work on dust removal in photos, so my screen is set on high contrast, so I guess that made it stand out more here. :) - Bilby (talk) 01:06, 14 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. I noticed this item because I have been looking at copying among the Owyhee Canyonlands Wilderness Areas articles. Have you been able to find an archived copy to rule out reverse copying? I tried to use the Internet Archive, but I didn't see any results for that page. The relevant window is less than a year from the Omnibus Public Land Management Act of 2009's original proposal in June 2008 and BlueCanoe's insertion in May 2009. Are these PumpkinSky edits (closing paraphrasing without noticing the duplication; removing the redundant paraphrased text, but leaving the exact copy) worth noting on the CCI? Flatscan (talk) 05:17, 14 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! The problem with the Wayback Machine is a cool one - I discovered yesterday that I have to give a lecture this semester on the problems of archiving dynamic sites, and this is perfect example. :) Anyway, I guess the main issue is that Blue Canoe added a reference to the material at the same time as it was added to the article, so there's good reason to believe that it was accidentally copied on the assumption that it would come under PD as a US Government work. Anyway, I've put that down as minor copyvio in CCI, because, I guess, technically the sentence added was copyvio, but at the same time it looks like an inadvertent mistake to me. I've always assumed that the CCI's are primarily about cleanup, rather than recording problems, though, so I'm very happy to defer to other opinions. :) - Bilby (talk) 14:03, 14 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
The Bureau of Land Management .pdf that BlueCanoe cited is a simple map without background text, so I doubt that it was the source. Your approach is good – there's no point in being accusatory. You're also right on the last point, but the absence of recorded problems on this CCI is being used to argue that the user has zero outstanding issues. In any case, I should discuss my concerns with PumpkinSky directly. Flatscan (talk) 05:06, 15 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
You are very right about the map - that was foolish of me. So yes, reverse copyvio is possible. I'm still more comfortable with removing and rewriting, as there are good reasons why a dynamic page wouldn't show up in the wayback machine, but I'm also happy to assume good faith as much as I possibly can. :) I'll make a note along those lines for BlueCanoe.
In regard to PumpkinSky, I was aware of the wider issues, but haven't really been following them. I guess I admire Moonriddengirl's approach of working with editors to help them understand how to avoid problems in the future enough that I'm less concerned with creating a record than with fixing problems and confirming that they're not going to reoccur. But then perhaps to do that you do need an idea of the extent of the problem, good or bad. :) - Bilby (talk) 05:31, 15 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Precious

reviewing eyes
Thank you for reviewing in the Contributor copyright investigations/PumpkinSky, you did a lot to clarify! Paraphrasing (I hope not too closely): If everybody who read this looked at one more article it could be over today. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:21, 20 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It is over, thanks again, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:40, 27 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 13 February 2012

Hi Bilby

Hey, thanks for the help with the Colin Defries article. you know, sprucing up the language. Although the node module was a little bit of a surprise, thanks for catching it anyhow. Also, please do have a look and let me know if you see any problems with it, you seem to have an eye for these things. Or at least a very fast delete key, LOL. Penyulap talk 07:51, 16 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. Sorry for not getting to this earlier. I'll have a look again today and get back to you. - Bilby (talk) 22:51, 19 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the thought

Thanks for the thought, I'm pretty sure I didn't break 3RR because the 1st one was reverting a sockpuppet which it says is allowed? I replied on my talk page there properly

(I'm still not sure if it's better to use talk bac or not, on the one hand people say it's better to have discussions in one place for long term keeping track of debates, but on the other hand there seems to be quite a lot of controversy/negative sentiment attached to {{talkback}} so I'm scared of using it lol)

Wikipedians also recommend biscuits with tea

Mistress Selina Kyle (Α⇔Ω ¦ ⇒✉) has given you a cup of tea, for taking the time to weather a dispute. Thanks for staying calm and civil! Tea promotes WikiLove and hopefully this has made your day ever so slightly better.

Spread the WikiLove by giving someone else a tea, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or someone putting up with some stick at this time. Enjoy!

Spread the lovely, warm, refreshing goodness of tea by adding {{subst:wikitea2}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

--Mistress Selina Kyle (Α⇔Ω ¦ ⇒✉) 14:00, 16 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 20 February 2012

Teahouse updates

Hi Adam! A few updates for you about Wikipedia:Teahouse, since you're one of our awesome Teahouse hosts!:

  • The host lounge is open! Please take time to review the materials in the space and start contributing to the how-to pages. Your input is valuable. Not only is it great practice to get our minds thinking like hosts, but, you can also provide easy to understand instructions and sound bites for fellow hosts!
  • Join the conversation by participating on the host lounge talk pages[2][3]. We also have an IRC channel now for hosts to get to know one another, develop your skills, and eventually the channel will serve as an additional help space for new editors!
  • To visit the IRC channel: #wikipedia-teahouse connect (Feel free to ask me for help if you're having trouble connecting!)
  • Let new editors get to know you by creating your Teahouse profile. Contribute your profile on the host page at the Teahouse! This serves as a fun way for new editors to get to know the people behind the usernames. You can post a photograph of yourself or an avatar, add a quote about yourself or something you enjoy, and share projects and activities you participate on wiki (with wikilinks).

Very exciting things are taking place, and we'll be opening the Teahouse no later than Monday. Feel free to ping me on or off wiki, and I can't wait to work with you to welcome new editors with a warm cup of tea :) SarahStierch (talk) 03:23, 24 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

DRV notice

You participated in the discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard#WP:TFD deletions by admin User:Fastily, which occured following the closure of Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2012 January 24#Template:New York cities and mayors of 100.2C000 population. Be advised that I have opened Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2012 February 27#User:TonyTheTiger/New York cities and mayors of 100,000 population.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 05:32, 27 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The Teahouse is Open!

Hi Bilby! Great news: The Teahouse is open for business! We're ready to start inviting new users, answering questions and inspiring one another. If you haven't already taken a look at the links provided in the most recent Teahouse update, posted on your talk page, please do! Don't forget to add yourself to the Host page if you haven't already. What's next? Inviting hosts and reporting your invitation information.

  • Please familiarize yourself with this brief rundown of your responsibilities as a Teahouse host.
  • Use the invitation guide to invite new users and report your invites.
  • Make sure you have the Q&A page on your watch page and dive in when answers get asked! Feel free to ask your own questions - either seeking help or inspiring others to share their projects, ideas and inspiration for editing.

See you at the Teahouse! SarahStierch (talk) 18:33, 27 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

hi Bilby! Just dropping by to let the hosts know about some new suggestions I've made based on interactions at the Teahouse thus far. Please take a look when you can! Thanks and see you at the Teahouse :) New suggestions regarding Q&A participation for hosts. -- SarahStierch (talk) 19:30, 28 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 27 February 2012

The Signpost: 05 March 2012

Speedy deletion nomination of Currency House Incorporated

If this is the first article that you have created, you may want to read the guide to writing your first article.

You may want to consider using the Article Wizard to help you create articles.

A tag has been placed on Currency House Incorporated, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become an encyclopedia article. Please read the guidelines on spam and Wikipedia:FAQ/Business for more information.

If you think that the page was nominated in error, contest the nomination by clicking on the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion" in the speedy deletion tag. Doing so will take you to the talk page where you can explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. You can also visit the page's talk page directly to give your reasons, but be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but do not hesitate to add information that is consistent with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, you can contact one of these administrators to request that the administrator userfy the page or email a copy to you. —KuyaBriBriTalk 14:41, 7 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you!

Thank you for your kind welcome to the world of Wikipedia. I look forward to exploring the place. Champaign Supernova (talk) 01:13, 8 March 2012 (UTC) Dear Bilby Currency House would be grateful for your offer of help with the new page. I'm new to Wikipedia so I hope this is the right way to reply to you. Priscilla R Yates Priscilla R Yates (talk) 00:25, 13 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The Tea Leaf - Issue One - Recent news from the Teahouse

Hi! Welcome to the first edition of The Tea Leaf, the official newsletter of the Teahouse!

Spring has sprung! Stop by the Teahouse for a cup of tea under the cherry blossoms.
  • Metrics are out from week one. Week one showed that the need for Teahouse hosts to invite new editors to the Teahouse is urgent for this pilot period. It also showed that emailing new users invitations is a powerful tool, with new editors responding more to emails than to talk page templates. We also learned that the customized database reports created for the Teahouse have the highest return rate of participation by invitees. Check out the metrics here and see how you can help with inviting in our Invitation Guide.
  • A refreshed "Your hosts" page encourages experienced Wikipedians to learn about the Teahouse and participate. With community input, the Teahouse has updated the Your hosts page which details the host roles within the Teahouse pilot and the importance that hosts play in providing a friendly, special experience not always found on other welcome/help spaces on Wikipedia. It also explains how Teahouse hosts are important regarding metrics reporting during this pilot. Are you an experienced editor who wants to help out? Take a look at the new page today and start learning about the hosts tasks and how you can participate!
  • Introduce yourself and meet new guests at the Teahouse. Take the time to welcome and get to know the latest guests at the Teahouse. New & experienced editors to Wikipedia can add a brief infobox about themselves and get to know one another with direct links to userpages. Drop off some wikilove to these editors today, they'll surely be happy to feel the wikilove!

You are receiving The Tea Leaf after expressing interest or participating in the Teahouse! To remove yourself from receiving future newsletters, please remove your username here. Sarah (talk) 16:02, 9 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 12 March 2012

Bullies On Wiki? (RE: Kara Young)

Someone named Fasttimes68 keeps getting into editing wars, now it seems with this former model's page. Her husband only "claims" to be a billionaire, it was never reported by a third party source that is actually is. I suggest this matter with this editing person be stopped. He seems to like arguing with other editors regarding models quite often on here. JohnJaySee (talk) 13:21, 16 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You've Got Mail!

Hello, Bilby. Please check your email; you've got mail!
It may take a few minutes from the time the email is sent for it to show up in your inbox. You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{You've got mail}} or {{ygm}} template.

-- MST☆R (Chat Me!) 04:46, 20 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 19 March 2012

There is a question at the Teahouse you might have interest in...

Teahouse logo
 Dear Bilby, I just asked a question at the Teahouse that you might have interest in! I hope you'll stop by and participate! Sarah (talk) 23:32, 20 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Hey Bilby! Just a reminder - please don't forget to use the Teahouse Talkback for the editors you provide answers too. Most new editors don't know about the watchlist gadget or think about checking back, and it does show that leaving the template helps. It's mentioned Host tips page and also on a general template collection we have that features all of our templates, thus far! I hope you find value and use in these! Thanks :) Sarah (talk) 13:37, 21 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Adopting?

I'm new here. UnderGODsHelp (talk) 20:14, 25 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 26 March 2012

The whole point of WP:CO-OP falls apart if the ones who are NOT honest are not policed, otherwise PR has no motivation to do so, think about it. It's actually helping those who remain honest, because otherwise what have they got to gain by putting themselves under scrutiny when others are getting away with it whilst hiding their activities? --Mistress Selina Kyle (Α⇔Ω ¦ ⇒✉) 12:25, 28 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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