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...for this! The bad dream is finally over :)—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); May 16, 2012; 20:27 (UTC)

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Ram Kishore Shukla is an article about well known and reputed person of our region, please tell how to add citations to refrences, i did not find any solution so i removed references, Please consi der it, Thank you User:Alcides86

The way to add a citation to the article is, after the statement covered by the citation, enter < ref>citation URL</ ref>, after removing the spaces. The spaces are there to prevent the citation from being used as a reference here The citations might still not be reliable, but that might not be sufficient to indicate notability; to do that, you might use the full {{cite news}} template, instead of the bare URL. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 08:19, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

Since, the person Ram Kishore Shukla is not a living person, have been active when electronic media and electronic press was not so active in that case i can't get that precise citations sir, but how ever i have added all of them those are available, please consider, and remove template with respect, Thanking you very much. user:Alcides86 —Preceding undated comment added 14:14, 25 May 2012 (UTC).

Respected sir I, have added citations of most reliable government originated documents, therefore, removed WP:BLPPROD tag on the talk page of Ram Kishore Shukla, please consider, Thanking you user:Alcides86

Disruptive editing

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Recovered_memory_therapy&diff=493340834&oldid=493311597 That is disruptive editing. You've been around damn well long enough to know that. You cannot wholesale revert good edits because you disagree with parts of the changes. Especially when some of them are merely noting failed verifications and especially when the change you apparently disagree with is the accurate reflection of what the source says. Don't like my edits? Fine. Say why. Don't like what the sources say? Too bad. Revert a bunch of good changes because of unrelated complaints? That is disruptive. I may "just" be an IP editor, but I've around the block a long, long time. Longer than you've been editing, in fact. People get blocked for that kind of editing, which I see you already know (from your block log and a search of the various problem boards). If you keep it up, I'll report you to the admin boards where many of the administrators are apparently far more familiar with this sort of nonsense from you than I am (as I've never had the the displeasure of wading into your end of the pool before).

tldr version -- Blanket reversions and reverting in disagreement with the sources is disruptive. You know better. Cut it out. --76.180.172.75 (talk) 04:38, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

You're absolutely wrong. Blanket reversions are acceptable when parts are near vandalism, even if some parts are acceptable or an improvement. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 04:54, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

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Sergejs Misins

Please restore article Sergejs Misins in my own space User:Dark Eagle/Sergejs Misins, I'd move information to the Latvian Wikipedia. Thx --Dark Eagle (talk) 13:26, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

Done. Please use {{db-u1}} when you're done with it. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 16:03, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

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Trinidad and Tobago and climate change

Hi. I noticed that you and an anon had a slow-motion edit war on the issue of flooding due to climate change in Trinidad and Tobago. Neither of you seem to have used to article's talk page to discuss the issue. I have started a discussion on the topic, and would request that both of you discuss the issue before either of you engage in any additional reverting. Thank you. Guettarda (talk) 13:08, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

I've used the article's talk page on a number of other countries where the same material is being incorrectly added by the anon. I think the central discussion, or as close to a central discussion as there is, is at Talk:Regional effects of global warming#Include Upfront (magazine) endangered oceanic island nations ranking. The (online) source is adapted by a speech by President Marcus Stephen of Nauru; it's possible that he was referring to a published study, but we only have his word for it. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 13:18, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for fixing the link for the reference I added on the Heartland Institute page. Smm201`0 (talk) 09:09, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

Institute_for_Cultural_Diplomacy

From checking the history of this article( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institute_for_Cultural_Diplomacy), it seems that the following user: SkaraB has created some sort of negative campaign to undermine the credibility of the Institute for Cultural Diplomacy and its wiki page – this goes back to June 2011. For example in June 1st 2011, SkaraB tried to upload some controversial material to the page in question. Controversies that were immediately reverted for questioning by the administrator Arthur Rubin. This goes on for, up until the last deletion suggestion. The arguments and the annulment of dozens of independent links are absurd. It becomes clear, from just a five second check in youtube that over 200 high profiles individuals have given lectures and interviews for ICD and all are posted there. This is in addition to all of the links mentioned in the press section. Unfortunately, this is a compromise of the five pillars of Wikipedia. And it is important to inform other administrators immediately. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hessin fahem (talk • contribs) 18:42, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

institute for cultural diplomacy

As suggested I checked the page and found some valid references about the Advisory Board of the institute for cultural diplomacy:

President of the institute for cultural diplomacy - Speech by the President of the ICD Advisory Board after his nomination (click on the content photo): http://www.culturaldiplomacy.org/index.php?en_advisoryboard

Vice President of the institute for cultural diplomacy - See the official page of Erna Hennicot Schoepges (scroll to the bottom – unfortunately it is in French – so excuse my French) http://ehennicotschoepges.lu/cv/

An article about the nomination of Akua-dansua: http://newtimes.com.gh/story/akua-dansua-now-on-advisory-board-of-institute-for-cultural-diplomacy

There are many more in this page, you just need to look thoroughly, I will send you the rest of the references tomorrow. --Hessin fahem (talk) 19:58, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

I appreciate your efforts. Unfortunately, none of those indicate notability of the ICD. But continue. You have at least 7 days from the nomination, before a deletion would be considered. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 23:59, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

Second try Arthur, see below, I would appreciate your feedback gretly.

ICD Conference Reports – Reliable External Sources to establish Notability

Hello Wikipedia colleagues, I have spent some hours over the past days and collected some independent, objective and reliable sources by reading the ICD online information and then google-ing the events and the conference speaker names to check other sources. As I understand it from the ICD website, ICD events are not public and by invitation only and even do not include invitations to the press or media, this is indicated on the ICD webpage. However despite that, I managed to find a serious amount of material (relative to an NGO) as you will see below, assessing WP:V and also WP:NPOV.

At the bottom of this page I have raised concern to many negative remarks and comments made by Skara B and Media Hound on the ICD Wikipedia page. My major concern here is that it looks like that no matter what material is posted on this Wikipedia page, it will always attract immediately negative reactions of Skara B and Media Hound and they will annul them and say that they not be good enough for them.

Therefore and in order to keep the work on this page as neutral as possible, I decided not to upload material to the Wikipedia page myself, but to post the resources in this talk page. My goal is to provide you with information that, to the best of my opinion, is reliable, objective, and supported by only a AAA sources, such as governmental institutions, top media organizations, high-level speakers (such as Heads of State) and to post them in this talk page to enable those who are interested, to use that for improving the page once and for all.

As the activity of the ICD is very wide and continues over many years, I decided to start with investigating ICD conferences and events firstly and then move to other activities of the ICD as well as to include confirmations from governmental institutions where ICD is registered or able to conduct activities (which I will upload to the talk page in the next days).

However, before we start with the conferences, I would like to draw your attention to the page on the website of the German Federal Ministry of Education and Research, where the Institute for Cultural Diplomacy is presented, please see the link below:

http://www.kooperation-international.de/detail/info/icd-institute-for-cultural-diplomacy.html

Now, I will move on to the conferences:

14 Conferences in total – As it seems, the ICD is normally organizing international conferences that are taking place mostly in Berlin, but not only. Usually you can see all of the lectures and interactive discussions and interviews with the speakers in the YouTube page of the ICD. After spending hours watching some of the clips (and there are many) I find that actually this YouTube page can stand alone by itself to provide a proof that all of the ICD conferences did in fact happen and all of the speakers mentioned on the ICD pages did in fact speak at the event, and in time some of them have even paid tribute to the ICD for allowing them the possibility to speak in the ICD. It clearly shows that Mark Donfried is always moderating all lectures and panel discussions and from watching the clips you can clearly see all banners of the ICD in the background verifying that the event is an ICD event. In many cases the speakers are also greeting the institute for its events.

I would start with a prominent example, which can be found below:

Conference Title: The Berlin Freedom of Expression Forum - "Censorship and Freedom in Traditional and New Media: The Revolution of Media as a tool of Freedom of Expression" (Berlin, February 28th - March 2nd, 2012) Link to conference lectures on YouTube (in total 33 lectures): http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL40E07B72E759D5C6&feature=plop Link to Conference Interviews: http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL1FAFAD40CEFB4E0D&feature=plcp

Link to Kathleen Carroll (Executive Editor, Associated Press; Co-Chair Pulitzer Board) speech can be found here: http://www.ap.org/Content/Press-Release/2012/Kathleen-Carroll-discusses-the-challenges-of-getting-public-information

You can see the AP article about Kathleen Carroll's participation here: http://www.ap.org/Content/Press-Release/2012/Kathleen-Carroll-discusses-the-challenges-of-getting-public-information

You can even watch Kathleen Carroll's speech here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6Z38vByUaI&list=PL40E07B72E759D5C6&index=22&feature=plpp_video

Link to conference on ICD webpage: http://www.culturaldiplomacy.org/gphr/index.php?en_rifef-2012

More on this event:

The Organization for Democracy and Freedom in Syria reports on the speech of Ribal Al-Assad which was delivered on March 1st in the context of: “The Berlin Freedom of Expression Forum - "Censorship and Freedom in Traditional and New Media: The Revolution of Media as a tool of Freedom of Expression" (Berlin, February 28th - March 2nd, 2012):

Link to the ODFS page:

http://www.odf-syria.org/news/news/berlin-ribal-alassad-calls-for-freedom-in-syria-in-speech-at-the-brandenburg-gate

A Selection of Additional Examples can be found here:

a). The German Missions in South Africa, Lesotho and Swaziland published a report about the ICD event: The Rise of Africa - "Africa and the Global Economy: The Future of Nation Branding, Tourism and International Investment on the African Continent" (Berlin, 09 - 12 March 2011)

Link to conference on the German Missions page: http://www.southafrica.diplo.de/Vertretung/suedafrika/en/__pr/1__GIC/2011/03/03__ICD__Seminar__March__2011.html

Link to conference on ICD Webpage: http://www.culturaldiplomacy.org/experienceafrica/index.php?en_the-rise-of-africa

b). The German Missions in South Africa, Lesotho and Swaziland publishwd a report about the ICD event: The Power of Africa 2012 - "Africa as a Stronger Actor on the International Stage" (Paris, May 2nd - 4th, 2012):

Link to conference on the German Missions page: http://www.southafrica.diplo.de/Vertretung/suedafrika/en/__pr/1__GIC/2012/04/04-ICD-power-of-Africa.html

Link to conference on ICD webpage: http://www.culturaldiplomacy.org/experienceafrica/index.php?en_roa2011

c). The United Nations Conference on Trade and Development (UCTAD) reports on the lecture of Mr. Petko Draganov (Deputy Secretary-General of UNCTAD) on 28 May 2010 at the ICD event: The International Symposium on Cultural Diplomacy 2010 (Berlin, 23 - 30 May, 2010) Link to the conference on the UNCTAD webpage: http://archive.unctad.org/templates/webflyer.asp?docid=13349&intItemID=4899&lang=1 Link to conference on ICD webpage: http://www.culturaldiplomacy.org/academy/index.php?en_symposium2010_reviews

d.) The US Embassy in Berlin reports on the participation of H. E. Amb. Philip Murphy (Ambassador of the USA to Germany) on May 28, 2010 during the ICD Event: "Understanding Afghanistan and Central Asia: Supporting Democracy and Stability - The Path Ahead" (Berlin, 28th – 30th May 2010)

Link on the Embassy of USA webpage: http://germany.usembassy.gov/murphy_052810.html

In addition, please see here a report by the NATO organization referring to this event of the ICD and also mentioning that NATO supported this event, please see the link the below and scroll down: http://www.nato.int/cps/en/natolive/news_63992.htm?selectedLocale=en

Link to conference on ICD webpage: http://www.culturaldiplomacy.org/academy/index.php?en_symposium2010_understanding-afghanistan

e). The US Embassy in Berlin reports on the participation of H. E. Amb. Philip D. Murphy (Ambassador of the USA to Germany) on September 10, 2010 in the ICD opening of the Floodwall Exhibition (Berlin September 10 - October 15, 2010)

Link on the Embassy of USA webpage: http://germany.usembassy.gov/about/ambassador/speeches/2010/09/10/floodwall/ Link to conference on ICD webpage: http://www.culturaldiplomacy.org/academy/index.php?en_conferences_loam_floodwall-exhibition

f). H.E. Dr. Makase Nyaphisi (Ambassador of Lesotho to Germany) participates on the 07th March, 2012 during the ICD Berlin International Economics Congress

Link on the Embassy of Lesotho webpage: http://www.lesothoembassy.de/news/2012_Berlin_IEC.php

Link to the Lecture on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gkw_26gsQOQ&list=PLDF7421E5B334B421&index=3&feature=plpp_video

Link to Conference Reviews on ICD Webpage: http://www.culturaldiplomacy.org/culturaldiplomacyandtheeconomy/index.php?en_biec-2012_review

Link to conference on ICD webpage: www.biec.de

g). The Honorable Alfred Sant (Former Prime Minister of Malta; Currently Member of Malta’s Parliament) delivers a lecture on 8 November 2009 in Berlin at "A World without Walls: An International Congress on Interdependence and CD“(Berlin, 06 - 09 November, 2009)

Link on the Alfred Sant webpage: http://www.alfredsant.org/pages/dassingle.asp?id=203

Link to conference on ICD webpage: http://www.culturaldiplomacy.org/academy/index.php?en_symposium_world-without-walls

For the same event:

The Honorable Sir James Mancham (Founding President of the Seychelles) delivers a lecture on the 6th of November, 2009 "A World without Walls: An International Congress on Interdependence and CD“ (Berlin, 06 - 09 November, 2009) Link the lecture on Sir James Mancham's webpage: http://jamesmancham.com/activities.php Link to photos of the lecture on Sir James Mancham's webpage: http://jamesmancham.com/gallery.php?&start=60 Link to conference on ICD webpage: http://www.culturaldiplomacy.org/academy/index.php?en_symposium_world-without-walls

For the same event:

The French renowned newspapers La Tribune and La Post covering the participation of Ségolène Royal in the event: http://www.latribune.fr/actualites/economie/international/20091110trib000442141/segolene-royal-si-sarkozy-redoute-un-president-europeen-fort-il-a-tort.html

http://archives-lepost.huffingtonpost.fr/article/2009/11/08/1780554_segolene-royal-invitee-d-honneur-de-l-institute-for-cultural-diplomacy-a-berlin-pour-le-20e-anniversaire-de-la-chute-du-mur.html

For the same event:

President Email Constantinescu (Former President of Romania) has uploaded a number of the speeches that he has delivered at the ICD in recent years including the above mentioned event – the first link):

http://www.constantinescu.ro/en/discursuri/speeches30.htm

Please see additional speeches of President Constantinescu which were held at other ICD events below:

http://www.constantinescu.ro/en/discursuri/speeches43.htm#_ftn1 http://www.constantinescu.ro/en/discursuri/speeches44.htm http://www.constantinescu.ro/en/discursuri/speeches37.htm

h). The Goethe Institute in Ljubljana reports on the ICD program "Germany Meets Slovenia – A Forum for Young Leaders (Slovenia, June 13th - 17th, 2012): Link to the program in the ICD webpage: http://www.culturaldiplomacy.org/germanymeetsslovenia/index.php?en Link to the Goethe Institute in Ljubljana page: http://www.goethe.de/ins/si/lju/ver/de9107644v.htm

i). Conference Title: The Ankara Conference on Peace building & Conflict Resolution – “Using Cultural Diplomacy as a Tool to Build Sustainable Peace” (Ankara, April 17th - 19th, 2012)

Please find below a link to the Slovenian Embassy in Turkey, which reported about the event:

http://ankara.embassy.si/index.php?id=1320&L=1&tx_ttnews%5Btt_news%5D=12834&tx_ttnews%5BbackPid%5D=16&cHash=22ad97d142

More links: http://www.ecmi.de/press/details/the-ankara-conference-on-peacebuilding-and-conflict-resolution-469/

Link to conference lectures (in total 45 lectures) on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLE5CB2F7A6D8123AF&feature=plcp Link to conference on ICD webpage (where you can see the program and list of speakers): www.ankara-conference.org

J). The German Federal Agency for Political Education (Bundeszentrale für politische Bildung – BPB) published reports and documentation about the ICD Event Series "Black History Month 2009" (Berlin, January 20-Febrauary 29th, 2009): Link to conference on ICD webpage: http://www.culturaldiplomacy.org/blackhistorymonth/index.php?de Link to the reports BPB website: http://www.bpb.de/veranstaltungen/dokumentation/127381/black-history-month

k). Conference Title: The International Conference on Cultural Diplomacy & the UN - "Cultural Diplomacy & Soft Power in an Interdependent World: The Opportunities for Global Governance" (New York City & Washington D.C., February 21st - 24th, 2012)

Link to NYU (Law Department) University reporting on the event: http://www.law.nyu.edu/news/ALVAREZ_JOSE_ICD_CONFERENCE

More: http://www.mville.edu/news-a-events/news/news-features/3133-kendra-white.html

Link to conference lectures on YouTube (in total 34 lectures): http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLB91A1240BACCCE81&feature=plcp Link to conference on ICD webpage: www.un-culturaldiplomacy-conference.org

l). Conference Title: The ICD Annual Academic Conference on Cultural Diplomacy 2011 “Cultural Diplomacy and International Relations: New Actors, New Initiatives, New Targets” (Berlin, December 15th - 18th, 2011)

Link to a protest against the Greek Government and the Deputy Prime Minister of Greece, Mr. Thodoros Pangalos, who participated in the event and was confronted by protestors; the protesters filmed the event themselves and published on YouTube with over 28,000 views:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzEI3XFvUCM

Link to conference lectures on YouTube (in total 29 lectures) http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLBF4062F093F322E4&feature=plcp Link to conference on ICD webpage: www.icd-academy.org

m). The German Federal Agency for Political Education (Bundeszentrale für politische Bildung – BPB) published reports and documentation about the ICD Event Series "Black History Month 2009" (Berlin, January 20-Febrauary 29th, 2009): Link to conference on ICD webpage: http://www.culturaldiplomacy.org/blackhistorymonth/index.php?de Link to the reports BPB website: http://www.bpb.de/veranstaltungen/dokumentation/127381/black-history-month

n). The Honorable Sir James Mancham (Founding President of the Seychelles) delivers a lecture on the April 15, 2010 as a part of the "USA meets Europe Forum” from April 22-25 in New York City. Link the lecture on Sir James Mancham's webpage: http://www.eturbonews.com/15484/former-seychelles-president-heads-new-york-deliver-lecture-pirac Link to conference on ICD webpage: http://www.culturaldiplomacy.org/index.php?event-review-usame-2010-04

I think that the sources provided here are sufficient, but I will continue to find more and to provide more neutral verified information about ICD activities

--Hessin fahem (talk) 19:34, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

User:SusanLesch

Hello.

The IP vandal reinstated the vandalism, but I was unable to revert it due to the edit filter, which prevented me from performing a constructive edit this time. That's what I do not like about the edit filter. 69.155.141.125 (talk) 19:49, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

What edit, exactly, are you talking about? — Arthur Rubin (talk) 21:52, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

Never mind; that IP was blocked for 5 years, so we won't have to worry for a while. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 21:54, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

What was the problem exactly

You reverted the edit I made to William Nordhaus 16:21, 31 May 2012‎. Your comment was "still not significant, notable, or relevant" I'm not sure where "still" came from, and I didn't understand that.

• Nordhaus's article is a significant element of his public profile
• It was misrepresented
• It requires some research to find this out.
• My references were to the source documents.

I had gone to some trouble to make what seemed to me to be a useful contribution to the content. Frankly your action seems pretty high-handed.

WP is a collaboration. Naturally as with all Wiki's anything created can be destroyed, but this seems quite arbitrary. Apparently you thought no part of the contribution was worth saving, and that there was nothing in it that was useful. It's not exactly encouraging. Or is it simply that you find it quicker to revert someone else's work than to improve it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fentlehan (talk • contribs) 00:52, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

The section "The Wall Street Journal of January 27, 2012 response" consists of criticism (not entirely of Nordhaus), and Nordhaus's response. His response consists of letters (not at all notable) and possibly "reply columns", which are not uncommon when a newspaper or magazine recognizes that a person is attacked (justifiably or not) in their columns. Unless Nordhaus's "publications" are actual articles, and not letters or reply columns, there's nothing notable there. I see no evidence of that. I apologize for reverting any edits you made to other sections of the article; if I did, it was not my intent.

The reason I said "still" is that you built on a section created by an IP-hopping anon; I realize that you are probably not that anon, and I apologize for any implications to that effect. Having read the reference you added, it looks like a "reply column", and would be inappropriate in the New York Times Review of Books if it were not. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 01:11, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

Interesting

I'm glad we're beginning to have some break-throughs on the page(s) in question. Any adversarial relationship, in the end, allows one to learn a lot very quickly. It's just like technological advances in times of war. That being said, I was made aware of this now,

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Search&limit=20&offset=0&redirs=1&profile=default&search=Arthur+Rubin+prefix%3AWikipedia%3AAdministrators%27+noticeboard

I think we both learned our cooler heads prevailed in the light of threats to report activities to admin, but, if I came to an airline with an a background check that looked like this... I'd be going to interviews forever. C'mon Arthur Rubin. Be cool. You may delete this message. --XB70Valyrie (talk) 02:50, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

Dispute Resolution

Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Dispute resolution noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is "Political activities of the Koch family, Koch family". Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by XB70Valyrie (talk • contribs) 04:19, June 16, 2012‎

User Warnings and Percieved Fairness.

Recently, on my talk page[1] the following question was asked:

"Where is the below warning on Arthur Rubin's page? He attacked me on the Wikipedia:Dispute resolution noticeboard as well. If he hadn't you wouldn't have removed his comments."

My first reaction was to point to the fact that the removal in question was for talking about user conduct, not for personal attacks, that it was specifically labeled as not being a criticism, and to the fact that your very next reply and all subsequent replies were 100% about article content.[2][3]. (Why warn someone who clearly "gets it"?)

On the other hand, I want to be scrupulously fair and unbiased in my work as a Mediator, so I went back over your comment with a fine tooth comb. I hope you understand my reason for doing so.

Looking at the edit,[4] I think that is could be argued that these two comments:

"We can all agree that XB70Valyrie is abrasive in his comments."

"he seems to have come to the conclusion that the other editors are all stooges of or paid by the Kochs"

...may stray into the area probated by WP:CIVIL and/or WP:NPA. So, to be fair, I am going to issue a warning for those.

When I warn users, I use the warnings listed here:

Wikipedia:Template messages/User talk namespace#Behavior towards editors

and am picking Template:Uw-npa1, the lowest level of warning. Also, please note that you are allowed to delete anything placed on your own talk page, including this warning. Here it is:

Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, we would like to remind you not to attack other editors. Please comment on the content and not the contributors. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. You are welcome to rephrase your comment as a civil criticism of the article. Thank you. --Guy Macon (talk) 11:04, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

On one of the talk pages or user talk pages, he made a comment which I read as his agreeing he had been uncivil. But I can see your point. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 15:27, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

Sorry. Looking it over, there is no excuse for the second comment except as a specific discussion about the user's activity, which is inappropriate on DRN. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 15:37, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

This should be an interesting social experiment. This "why did you warn me and not the other person?" argument comes up again and again. I have never tried giving a warning for minor incivility based on one of those arguments before; it sort of feels like I am being manipulated. If, as I suspect, I still end up once again being portrayed as if I were part of some vast conspiracy involving a Wikipedia page I have never heard of outside of DRN, I will never do it again. Again, I appreciate you taking it in the spirit I sent it in. I hope that this will help in my efforts to mediate the conflict. --Guy Macon (talk) 19:12, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

The whole idea that <<You did such-and-such good deed in some other case, but not in this case. That is discrimination and it is wrong.>> is mistaken. No one can do everything good together that he might be able to do if done once separately. If we start punishing people for failing to do good deeds, we will end up with no good being done at all. JRSpriggs (talk) 19:35, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

Excellent point. --Guy Macon (talk) 19:59, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

Warning

This user seems to have fun misemploying his administrator rights and arbitrarily deletes articles.

The article List of potential candidates for the Nobel Prize in Literature does not contain any original research (NOR) and all information can be verified by establishing reliable sources (V). Burden of evidence is on my side. The article is a new project and sources will be added. BLP does not apply as this is a list, not a biographical article. If you delete an article next time, please abide by Wikipedia's deletion policies and leave time for a user to challenge a proposed deletion. Thanks. --Anthrophilos (talk) 01:18, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

It contained information about living persons, some with no potential source. If you want to write an article listing those people who a notable person reports is a potential candidate for the Nobel Prize in Literature, that would be reasonable. WP:BLP applies to any statement about a living person, not just articles about living people. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 01:35, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

First year of law school

Hello, Arthur -- I hope the first year of law school was good to you! Famspear (talk) 03:04, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

Notice of Edit warring noticeboard discussion

Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion involving you at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring regarding a possible violation of Wikipedia's policy on edit warring. Thank you. Further information here: <redacted as personal attack> --Anthrophilos (talk) 17:32, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

I don't see anywhere where either you or I has been accused of edit warring there. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 18:25, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

I guess you know now that it's an ANI discussion since you commented there. Anyway, you mentioned that you weren't going to comment on the video, but I noticed that someone with the handle arubin5888 replied to the video on the Youtube page about an hour ago. Just FYI, I'm not asking for a reply or anything...basically just wanted to let you know in case it was someone else posing as you. I'd want to know if it were me. Anyway, sorry you have to deal with all this crap. Good luck! Quinn ^✹SUNSHINE 19:04, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

I meant I wasn't going to comment here on the video, although I should have used another of my Google IDs to comment. YouTube is still a bastion of free speech, including the right to reply to lies and misleading videos. (Although, the article on Uri Geller notes that he had a video critical of him taken down, which had 9 seconds of potential copyright violation. I've never complained about a YouTube video before, even though Alex Jones has spent about 3 minutes of one of his programs to complain about me.) — Arthur Rubin (talk) 19:08, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

Exactly...and I'm thinking you're in that beehive now. Look, I'm not going to tell you what you already know, but IF you work to keep these propaganda mongers at bay, they oftentimes do resort to all means to attack, including offsite coordinations. You're not an island, so if you need help, simply ask. I'll do whatever I can.--MONGO 03:14, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

I've made a number of notable enemies, I'm afraid. Not counting the ones due to my USENet activities, we have Ilena Rosenthal, Alex Jones, Carl Hewitt, and XB70? Well, maybe he's not notable. I believe Archimedes Plutonium still has me on his hit list. I hope I have, at least, some allies, if not friends.... — Arthur Rubin (talk) 05:50, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

To Arthur Rubin: I reckon that you are on the side of the angels, but I do not usually know enough about what you are doing to intervene on your behalf. JRSpriggs (talk) 06:48, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

ICD

Wikipedia Campaign by SkaraB and Media Hound aginst the ICD Continues

the meantime and as you can see, SkaraB/Mediahound is celebrating its “VICTORY” to harm the ICD and continuing with the campaign to harm the ICD in every possible way. Now “they” are going through the ICD Advisory Board members list and deleting references to the ICD. For example, Erna Hennicot-Schoepges, the Vice President of the ICD got “a visit” from them and they deleted any reference to the ICD, ignoring the fact that in her own website the Vice President mentions her role on the icd and of course it is also mentioned in the ICD website:

See here (scroll down to the very bottom): http://ehennicotschoepges.lu/cv/ See here wiki page here: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Erna_Hennicot-Schoepges&action=history

The anonymous editor is continuing like that with all of the pages of ICD members and will probably continue on the hunt against the ICD any way possible. This is of course not good for the Wikipedia and administrators and high level management of Wikipedia must be involved in this as this can have consequences for Wikipedia. I will now continue to observe and watch the activity of SkaraB and Media Hound and document all of their activities. At the same time, I will deliver the findings to Wikipedia authorities in order to stop this activity, as it has been going on for years already.

I will appreciate your advice here. --Hessin fahem (talk) 05:09, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

If a real third party commented on board membership, it might be allowable. I'm afraid I agree that you haven't pointed to a source other than ICD and its board members that it is notable. I probably wouldn't have removed it, as it may be of significance to the board members that they are on the board, but we'd need another source. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 05:41, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

Actually, I too tend to agree that perhaps her article should in fact mention her involvement with the ICD. According to the ICD website she is vice chairman of the board; and her own webpage links to the ICD. The paragraph that I deleted was a bit misleading, though, since it merely said that she was a member of the advisory board. That board has a large number of members, ranging from former prime ministers to the lead singer of Boney M; seeing that we have not been able to establish that the ICD is a notable organization I think that ordinary membership of the advisory board is not worth mentioning in a Wikipedia article, at least not without any clear evidence that this is a post that, in Arthur Rubin's words, is of any significance to the members in question.

SkaraB 10:10, 20 June 2012 (UTC)

Since you mention Boney M, please see Once upon a time in Russia . JRSpriggs (talk) 14:39, 20 June 2012 (UTC)

Amazing! I'm so glad I stopped by this talk page. :) —mako๛ 16:15, 20 June 2012 (UTC)

A source you might like

Arthur, I've noticed youre interested in Finance, in particular in the work of Shiller such as his book Animal Sprits. I think you might enjoy his new book Finance and the Good Society. The first half is far and away the best overview of the Finance sector I've seen. The second half has proposals for reform, many of which seem surprisingly compatible with Libertarian thinking. FeydHuxtable (talk) 14:26, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

My fav. Arthur Rubin quote

From the NWO (conspiracy theory) archives (usernames trimmed to avoid stirring any trouble):

As a not particularly involved editor, I would like to note that B has not been following NPOV in any of his suggested edits. I haven't checked J's contributions for nonsense, yet. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 15:50, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

So, how is law school going? John Shandy` • talk 20:23, 20 June 2012 (UTC)

RS/N

I went to RS/N for reasoning on using the Mondale op-ed for "facts" <g>. TFD, of course, posits that anything Mondale writes should be a "fact" if Mondale asserts it (well -- not his exact owrds). Problem is the source also assets the Koch's livein Florida - meaning there is an eensy chance the op-ed was not fact-checked <g>. Collect (talk) 16:07, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

3RR at ALEC

Your recent editing history at American Legislative Exchange Council shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. Being involved in an edit war can result in your being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly.

To avoid being blocked, instead of reverting please consider using the article's talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. See BRD for how this is done. You can post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection. Binksternet (talk) 18:10, 22 June 2012 (UTC)