That's arguable. Unfortunately the way the rules are written in order for a clean start to be clean, there is a chance of it being called sockpuppetry. Also, there were some false accusions of sockpuppetry in my case. There were assumptions that some edits were me because they came form the same proxy server. That is because the Checkuser tool is far from perfect and difficult to use. That's why I just went back to using my original one. Because of my high edit count, wide breadth of editing and my knowledge of things like templates, policy and the history of the place it would have been impossible to start over. It would only be a matter of time before someone recognized me. Kumioko (talk) 22:23, 19 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Truthfully, my situation was what opened my eyes to how screwed up things were, how often we get things wrong and how crappy editors are treated. Before that I thought very highly of the processes. I thought they worked and often supported them. Know I know better because I have been through it. Those who haven't been through it do not know how often the tools get things wrong, how often one bad admin decision can cause terrible harm to the pedia and how quickly the community turns on one of its own for petty and simple reasons without even taking the time to look into the situation. Kumioko (talk) 22:31, 19 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed, besides debating it now won't repair destroyed reputation. It won't change that my bot was shut down and it certainly won't change my chances of ever getting the admin tools and being allowed to contribute to WP on par with my knowledge and abilities. I was pretty well respected up to that point but that all went out the window because a user violated 3RR, I reported them and then I was blocked for a snide comment that I should do it too. But thats the great thing about WP right, we can pick and choose when to follow the rules and one whom and then whoever is the better liked Wikipedia wins the argument. Truly policial democracy in action. Kumioko (talk) 22:39, 19 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
So what? Not all that is true needs to be stated on Wikipedia. What would it have hurt to let K's statement pass without comment? This is a five year, 50,000 mainspace editor...shouldn't our goal be to get him to return to editing productively? How's turning over months old dirt gonna help? NE Ent23:39, 19 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks NE, its ok though. These additional comments from 28bytes aside I deserved this block. Pissed off as I was at Fram's comments and at the situation I still knew better than to insult another editor and I knew that making them was going to have repercussions. I'm just tired of Fram's shenanigans. Frankly I'm surprised it was only 24 hours. I was expecting a week.
All that's going to happen is RF is going to get dumped on even more and you end up being sanctioned for disruption. NE Ent12:53, 21 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
