User talk:Kumioko

Kumioko is editing as User:108.28.162.125 05:40, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

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I should have know

I should have known it would take more than 6 blocks and a countless number of bad calls, unnecessarily draconian blocks and bans to desysop an admin!. If this were just an editor they would have been banned from the project. But at least this does prove that I was right about out at least one thing in this place. There is an us and them mentality between admins and editors and the admins are always given the break. Kumioko (talk) 19:02, 2 March 2013 (UTC)

This makes me laugh

There was a time when seeing these block messages on my account really would have pissed me off (about this time last year actually) but now I login to see the message that I am blocked for Block evasion and socking (both for editing from my Home/work IP) and it just makes me laugh. I shake my head too, but I mostly just laugh. Then I see today another longterm editor Cla68 was indeffed. Pretty soon the only ones editing will be the bots! Kumioko (talk) 03:32, 3 March 2013 (UTC)

I wonder how long it will be before my talk page access is revoked too. I imagine its coming eventually. Can't do anything else anyway, may as well go ahead and get that done. Still working on the Global lock. Sent an Email to the Wikimedia foundation requesting they do it, doubt they will though. Guess the only recourse I have is to "earn" the lock since they won't give it when "asked". Kumioko (talk) 03:37, 3 March 2013 (UTC)

Wikipediocracy

Wow, never really had a strong desire to edit the Wikipediocracy site before until yesterday. I didn't realize how much I was universally hated. Here, there and everywhere. Over here I am a vandal, sock-puppeteer and block evader. Over there I am whiney incompetent user crying about how I will never be an admin and shouldn't because I am too inept to have the tools. Wow. You try and make things better and try and participate and see what happens. I can't wait until I am blocked from this place for good. Nothing good will come out of editing any further. To think I once believed so strongly in this project. All the time, years, wasted on these foolish pursuits. I realize that no one reads my talk page anymore but maybe some will see what the future holds for them after donating countless hours to the project. Nothing, absolutely nothing. Kumioko (talk) 14:19, 3 March 2013 (UTC)

For further amusement I shall post a copy of a message I sent to a couple of fine upstanding editors on Wikipediocracy.

“ Greetings to the peanut gallery, imagine my surprise when I did a search to see if my name ever came up and I find comments by you 2 calling me a whiny little child and such. At first I was a little annoyed until I looked at the context. A group of haters hating. Then I went and looked at your Wikipedia user pages and what do I find. User:EricBarbour that looks like the rantings of a lunatic. The talk page is filled with junk and seeing that you were banned indefinately for outing. So, after learning this it compels me to think that I must be doing something right if I have somehow caught the interest of 2 fine upstanding individuals such as yourselves. You can call me whiny, a child or whatever but like it or not there are still folks that want me to edit, I do not see one person anywhere on your page that thinks you should stay. ”

Kumioko (talk) 15:05, 3 March 2013 (UTC)

Sorry you're blocked. Work your way back if you feel you still have a commitment to this site and its... interesting social milieu. As for Wikipediocracy, your posts so far over there have been nothing but constructive.→StaniStani  21:35, 3 March 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. Kumioko (talk) 22:06, 3 March 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )/Workshop

I think it extremely ironic and silly that Fram accuses Carrite of being aggressive at opposing editors when that is his main modus operundi. I am confident that eventually the community will see through Fram's bullshit and cleverly worded rhetoric and see him for the bully he is. Kumioko (talk) 16:22, 3 March 2013 (UTC)

I think you should provide some diffs for this, as just calling someone a bully is not really on. (Which is not to say that you're wrong, just that you should provide diffs.) I don't mind copying the diffs to an appropriate place in the case, if such a place exists. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 17:16, 3 March 2013 (UTC)

All one needs to do is to read his interactions with other users. You can see many on his talk page or archives, in my archives, in the Archives of Rich Farmbrough, the ANI archives and a number of others. Particularly those he doesn't like. I will provide some diffs but its likely that no one will be interested so I probably won't spend too much time on it.

On second thought no offense I don't think anyone really wants to hear what I have to say so its just a waste of time for me to find links. There everywhere though. The users attitude is toxic. Just look at the ANI he is spearheading against RAN in addition to the examples I gave above. People say I am a jerk but the reason I am a jerk to some users like Fram is because they are jerks to me or others first and after asking them nicely and attempting to work with them, I start being a jerk back because being nice doesn't work with them. He is one of the worst admins in this place and one of the primary reasons that I continue to think that if he and others like him can be admins then the tools really aren't that big of a deal. Otherwise they would have been taken away from them by now. Plus I am indefinately blocked from editing so there is no reason for me to go rummaging through histories and archives when there is no value. Kumioko (talk) 17:22, 3 March 2013 (UTC)

All right. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 17:58, 3 March 2013 (UTC)

I know my attitude is bad these days I just hope some remember when I actually had faith in the project. If I were too find these diffs and you were to post them somewhere what then? There would be a discussion, they would discount anything I provide as just ranting and trying to be "dramatic" (which is a popular term in Wikipedia referring to anything they don't agree with) and then discussion would be closed with no action. I wouldn't mind doing the work if I had faith the community would actually do anything, which I don't. Kumioko (talk) 18:03, 3 March 2013 (UTC)

Your page is watched, even if only by a few editors who don't edit every day, which is why it took me a while to see this. If you can supply diffs, they will be added. Believe me, there are more than a few "jerks" around here whose attitude and contributions would turn Buddha or the Virgin Mary into axe murderers, so I really can't fault anyone for responding in such a way. Also, if you wish, my e-mail is enabled, so if you would prefer that method, that might work better. I could then present that information to ArbCom, I think, saying that the information was forwarded to me and that I reviewed it personally and came to the conclusion that presenting it to ArbCom made sense, provided that would be true, and I think it probably would be. I suppose ArbCom could sanction me for some form of meatpuppetry in that case, but I'd be at least willing to contact them and see if evidence presented in such a way would be acceptable to them if it were presented to me. And good luck over at Simple English. If it would be helpful to you, I've started lists with a lot of the religion projects of lists of articles contained in print and academic encyclopedias, and it might be possible that some of them might be useful to help stimulate content development and improvement over there. Anyway, feel free to respond however you might like, if at all. John Carter (talk) 22:09, 3 March 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll think about it. I'm still not convinced it would do much good though. It may take some time though to compile a useful list. We were both very active users as were many of the ones he had a problem with so there is a massive amount of information to mine through. Its also not worth falling on your sword for me just because I can see through his crap. The community will figure it out just as they did with Racepacket and several others. With or without my help. As for simple I'm not editing there much either. I was pushing the stewards pretty hard for a global lock on my accounts and I still want that but not enough to turn into a cross wiki vandal. So if they lighten up and block me as I asked that will be the end of it. Otherwise I guess I'll check in from time to time. I also just checked and by my surprise there are about 120 people that watch this page. Down from over 400 at one time but still quite a few given the state of things. Kumioko (talk) 22:37, 3 March 2013 (UTC)