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Thanks for the thoughtful close. Would you mind moving the closing rationale to the TOP of the move request, and just write something like "The result was MOVED to Chelsea" at the very top, then put the whole rationale, and keep the whole thing in the archived section (I think there are actually special RM archiving tags you could use? This will mirror more closely how other RMs look. thanks! --Obi-Wan Kenobi (talk) 00:11, 9 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Image watermarks

For reasons I'm sure you understand, I'm reluctant to approach Sou Boyy about this. Can you have a word if you think it's warranted? They're his photos and he's obviously putting watermarks on them while knowing about our guideline. Other images have watermarks but none so obvious as that one. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 18:33, 19 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Will do, Neil - have been busy for a couple of days but I'll get onto this today and try to let him know what the score is. Kim Dent-Brown ^(Talk) 13:27, 21 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Kim Dent-Brown ^(Talk) 13:53, 21 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Kim. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 13:57, 21 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Do change the File Name as it suits you and Thanks for your message!

Dear Kim, Hope all is well with you. Great to hear from you! My files are saved in that way with those names in my laptop as I use them in my blogs. Anyways, do change the file name to "Nusrat Jahan at FIERAA, a fashion and lifestyle exhibition held at Sapphire Banquet 2, Calcutta.JPG" or whatever you feel appropriate or put some other picture of the actress if that is your wish and suit the western sensibilities and fits the policies framed by majority of western wikipedians. Some words often used sounds jargons to me as I find it very difficult to comprehend western ways of communicating so publically. I would love if there is anything that needs to be edited, should be edited even if it is my work, due with as I give permission for all my work that is so far submitted. It is my small effort to uplift the fashion content of Wikipedia Calcutta and also some Wikipedia Indian content (as it seems Wikipedia Calcutta is neglected and is not as diverse as others) whenever I do get some time from my busy studying and journalism schedule. Please feel free to email all your valuable suggestions and advices at sourendra.das@gmail.com that should give you a quicker response as most of these notifications get in my spam folder by default by gmail and I see it often very late. Thanks and Happy Editing. Best, Sourendra Kumar Das from Calcutta, India. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sou Boyy (talk • contribs) 15:30, 21 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for tidying up on the Alesia Raut's article

Dear Kim, Greetings for the Day! Thank you for this editing work of yours. Alesia is a close and dear friend to me from Mumbai and I really do appreciate that you edited her article very nicely. Please feel free to edit any of my work as it suits Wikipedia. Also, do feel free to email me with all your good suggestions and I shall definitely try and remember them. Hope you will have a great week ahead with family and friends. Do take care of yourself. Best Wishes, Sourendra Kumar Das from Calcutta, India. sourendra.das@gmail.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sou Boyy (talk • contribs) 15:43, 21 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Did you...

...intend to remove my last post @ ANI? ES &L 23:28, 6 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

...Nope! Edit conflict, hopefully I've restored it now. Kim Dent-Brown ^(Talk) 23:30, 6 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, one never knows - the community has lost patience with PL, and I'm probably on my last thread myself. I'm pretty much ready to propose either an indef WP:CIR block, or a topic ban preventing him from undoing ANY admin post or action anywhere on the project, and removal from AN/ANI. They've become a liability and massive timesink. I thought maybe you were censoring me for my own good or something :-) ES &L 23:34, 6 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Heh, I can see why you might have thought I was trying to save you from yourself, but I wasn't! Pure coincidence. But now that I look, maybe you'd save yourself some grief if you did walk away from this one. I'm learning the advantages of WP:FUCK to an admin and maybe this is one of those times. If the situation so obviously needs action, someone else will likely take it for you and save you the bother... Kim Dent-Brown ^(Talk) 23:41, 6 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

A topic ban worded that way would be a bad idea. Something better might be: "PantherLeapord is prohibited from starting or commenting on AN/ANI/etc. threads about things in which they are not directly involved." (Sorry for the derail.) Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 23:37, 6 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

So, how do we stop bullshit like his latest gaffe on ANI? He involved himself in something that he was not directly involved in, and when he got caught, ran to start an ANI thread as someone "directly involved" ES &L 23:42, 6 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Nothing that a liberal dollop of "broadly construed" can't handle. Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 23:45, 6 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

... and now this violation of WP:POLEMIC? This is ridiculous. ES &L 23:47, 6 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

... and this one now too. At which point does WP:CIR come into play? ES &L 23:54, 6 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Meh. Not that that isn't ridiculous, it totally is, or that you're wrong to be offended and want something done about it, you're totally justified in that, but...meh. If it's in his userspace, well, you only have to read it if you want to. I'd leave it be, if it were me. But it's not me, so do what you will. Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 23:55, 6 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Bah. Most likely just a kid, or indistinguishable from one. I'd second WK. Leave it be. MLauba ^(Talk) 00:31, 7 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

L'Origine du monde

L'Origine posted this unblock request five days ago and hasn't had an official response. I understand why Admins might want to keep their distance but I hope you or another Admin could tell him/her either a) Yes, b) Yes, with these conditions or c) No, and here's my advice for you (i.e. wait a month, work on other wikis, etc.).

It seems like once an Editor has been marked as troublesome, there is a mindset that things would be so much simpler if they simply weren't actively editing. But I do see some change here along with a dropped stick. I think offering an unblock with conditions (say, 1RR) would be a move that would benefit the user along with Wikipedia. At the least, there will be a lot of eyes on L'Origine so if he/she goes astray, there will be swift action. Just my 2 cents. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 12:48, 7 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Liz, I've gone back to the ANi discussion which was closed here and I think it would be sticking my neck out to unblock, based on the pretty clear consensus there. I'll post at L'OdM's talk page to that effect, but I don't think I should be the one to deny the appeal either, having been very involved in the last discussions. Kim Dent-Brown ^(Talk) 13:23, 7 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I completely understand your decision, Kim. I posted this request here due to your past involvement without considering the outcome of that involvement. I think I was most concerned that L'Origine was waiting a long time for an answer, either way. Thanks for your response. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 16:35, 7 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Lobsterthermidor AN/I report

Hi Kim. I'm glad that you closed that AN/I report on Lobsterthermidor, it was well due. But it's a complex case and I don't think your closing comments fairly reflect the situation. This is really about his (mostly unintentional) disruptive behaviour which I tried to show in the evidence I submitted. I'm aware of the non-productive nature of the to-and-froing and I tried to restrain myself (hence the two sub-sections), but it was hard, especially with so little third party input to hang sensible comments on - wish I was perfect!

We did manage politeness a couple of days ago at Talk:Nutwell though. Have a look: it's clear evidence that he still doesn't understand OR or proper referencing, nor can he apparently understand straightforward questions on these topics. Yes, each one is a minor issue in itself, but they aren't isolated issues that I have to search around for - they are prevalent throughout his work and cumulatively they are damaging Wikipedia's credibility. This must be something worth pursuing. Any chance you could reword the AN/I closure to balance things up a bit? Thanks for listening, —SMALL JIM 15:06, 9 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Smalljim, I realise the closure wouldn't be satisfactory for you. However I don't think I should get into revising the wording of the decision because if I do I would have to allow Lobsterthermidor an appeal at re-wording and we are back re-opening the discussion. The problem for me was that as an administrator, you of all people should realise what's involved in bringing a request for a permanent site ban. This is reserved for the most egregious and persistent offenders as you well know, usually after they have attracted some serial attention from multiple other editors. This just wasn't the case here. Look at how little attention the case got from other editors whom you were quite unable to get involved in the case. I think LT has got under your skin and you are sensitive to problems that other editors just don't see as too problematic. You asked for a sledgehammer to crack a nut and were declined; if there really is a substantial problem then other editors will become aware of it and you will end up getting some traction here but it may take some time. If you don't end up acquiring support, the inference must be that the community does not see the problem as large as you do. If I were in your shoes I'd put on a charm offensive and be as collegial, friendly and co-operative as possible. It might break the ice and the two of you might be able to work together better. If you are rudely rebuffed then it's one point to you. (LT, if you are reading this - exactly the same applies to you!) Kim Dent-Brown ^(Talk) 20:30, 9 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for that measured reply, Kim. It's greatly appreciated. I'll take a while to consider what, if anything, to do next. Interesting that you should think I was asking for a site ban though - that was certainly not what I intended. I thought I was just setting out a case and asking for help, opinions, advice on how to proceed. Ah well, I'm sure you weren't the only one I misdirected over that, so the problem must be with my drafting. Overall it was all a bit of an own goal, I think. Cheers, —SMALL JIM 23:46, 9 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]