Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lionheart (band)

Lionheart (band)

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Maybe it's because the band died out almost thirty years ago, maybe it's because there is apparently another Lionheart in existence, but I can't find anything that remotely resembles in-depth coverage in reliable sources. The page has been unreferenced since at least 2010, and there's nothing in the body of the text to indicate they "made it big" as it were (even the text itself says as much). Primefac (talk) 17:06, 29 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. GSS (talk) 11:58, 30 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of United Kingdom-related deletion discussions. GSS (talk) 11:58, 30 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Keep or merge to Dennis Stratton. Two major/signficant indie albums technically satisfies WP:NMUSIC, but there doesn't seem to be a lot of coverage around. Sources do exist, however, e.g. [1], and [2] (see also the bio at Allmusic). The entry in The Encyclopedia of Popular Music is certainly significant. If more coverage could be found I would favour keeping. --Michig (talk) 17:06, 30 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Weak delete, but if more coverage is found I wouldn't object to it being kept. As it stands it reads like they're a typical band that was signed by a major but then flopped, and most of their notability seems to come from the wealth of bands their members either came from or went on to play in later. There's a degree of WP:NOTINHERITED and I'm not convinced that Lionheart are notable as a standalone band. We do sometimes have a habit of deciding that any 20th century band there's surviving evidence of is notable, which shouldn't really be the case. KaisaL (talk) 12:37, 2 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 01:40, 6 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Keep as passes WP:NMUSIC as two significant notable albums , also book coverage and allmusic bio- most bands in wikipedia don't have one Atlantic306 (talk) 02:31, 9 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Atlantic306, are you saying that most bands in Wikipedia do not have an allmusic bio? Because, if that's what you're saying, I'd be willing to dispute it. Allmusic is pretty comprehensive and, among other things, an allmusic bio is not sufficient for notability because it attempts to cover ALL MUSIC. But more importantly, the reliable sources notice board has stated that allmusic is not a reliable source, except it can be used for some facts when no other sources are available. Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard/Archive_30#allmusic.com LaMona (talk) 03:31, 10 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

::No, Allmusic biographies and reviews are very reliable sources as [User:Michig] pointed out at the link you provided, this list of Wikiproject Album Reliable sources here nearer the top of the page, they certaintly don't give reviews and bios to the majority of entries. The reliable sources board advice is that plain listings on allmusic are not a sign of notability but reviews and bios are, if you disagree ask the experienced members of WikiProject Albums ,they all use allmusic for references , someone like User:Sergecross73 or User:Michig can confirm this. When I said the majority of wikipedia articles I meant new pages where the large majority don't have allmusic bios and reviews and are mainly non-notable. Atlantic306 (talk) 04:25, 10 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Atlantic306, you make some interesting claims. What's the book? Also, if the albums are significant and notable, why can I not find any coverage of them (and better yet, why does the Unearthed album not seem to exist for sale)? Primefac (talk) 15:49, 9 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Was referring to the Encyclopedia of Popular Music entry mentioned earlier, a number of their albums are for sale on Amazon, there is one copy of Unearthed for sale on Amazon.com but for some reason it does seem rare unlike their other output Atlantic306 (talk) 22:20, 9 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]