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Julie Couillard

Hi Dreadarthur, the redirect is a temporary thing. If someone believes there is enough information out there to create an article about Julie Couillard, the article can be created in the place of this redirect. I haven't seen an article on her life story, yet. If one were to be published, that would warranrt the creation of a Wikipedia article. Clerks. (talk) 12:52, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion of Don Stevenson

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Generally individual band members are not notable, their biographical information should be included on the band page. Madcoverboy (talk) 20:08, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Christl Verduyn

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Hi there, regarding use of external links - They should be used very sparingly in wikipedia articles: Generally they should only appear within the references (obviously) and in the external links section at the very end of the article. Try to include no more than say the five most important and/or official websites related to the article. They should never be used in the middle of an article.

If a redlinked person is not notable enough for wikipedia then you should remove the link, if they are only notable as part of a band or group etc you can redirect that link to the band's article instead: E.g. Guy Berryman.

Wikipedia is so adamant about not using images because it's the free encyclopedia. This means it should be free from copyrighted material as much as possible. Posting images is the visual equivalent of just copying the text from a website and pasting it as a wikipedia article. Needless to say the people who spent their time making the material will not be too happy that you've decided to give it away and remove them of any rights to their text/photos! I hope i've helped you out with this. If you've any more questions about this feel free to message me on my talk page. Thanks! Sillyfolkboy (talk) 01:36, 10 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, and p.s.: if anyone wanted images i think they'd just do this first! Thanks. Sillyfolkboy (talk) 01:36, 10 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, i guess this is probably the end of the matter. However one of your statements struck me as a little misinterpretation of what wikipedia is - ("It would seem that I am also promoting the photographs on the external site, which would be more welcomed than seeking permission for him to waive all rights by uploading to Wikipedia."). On the contrary, wikipedia is not about promoting sites outside of the site - in the aim of creating a free encyclopedia it is strongly encouraged to contribute quality free images.
Any image you see on the front page as article of the day or Did you know? MUST be a free image as a matter of principle. However this doesn't mean ALL the rights are waived - for example there are often protective terms applied (such as no derivative works or no commercial use of the work). Acknowledgement of authorship is almost always a stipulation too. For more information take a look at Wikipedia:10_things_you_did_not_know_about_images_on_Wikipedia. Wikipedia is a strange affair, and learning about how things work is often more difficult than understanding some of its specialist articles! Hope this helps you understand things. Sillyfolkboy (talk) 00:40, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Many thanks for your instructions on "orphan" issues.

Dreadarthur (talk) 20:50, 11 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No problem :). -- Nn123645 (talk) 23:15, 11 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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Land of the Sun

Note that I've moved the article to Land of the Sun (single) so that it fits in with wikipedia naming policy. Alternatives like Land of The Sun (Single) and Land of the Sun (Single) (when typing in the search box on the left) redirect to that page now too. You can read the rules on naming articles about albums/songs etc HERE. Thanks. Sillyfolkboy (talk) 17:15, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Dianne Heatherington

As you've noted in your second message, the categories in question don't exist at this point. Category:Canadian rock singers combined with Category:People from Winnipeg and Category:People from Toronto should be sufficient for now. Probably should have given more explanation of that at the time of category cleanup on Dianne Heatherington, and hope this explains things better. Meanwhile, WP:CANMUSIC is a good place to monitor for any Canadian music article discussions or developments. Dl2000 (talk) 03:21, 10 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Re:YouTube

If the clip is, in fact, in the public domain, you can go ahead and link to it. But this should be known definitively before we do that. Chubbles (talk) 13:02, 15 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

John Baird (Canadian politician)

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AfD nomination of Omar Spence

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Back Alley John

Thanks for the message. I edited the headings to comply with WP:MOS and removed the tag. – ukexpat (talk) 01:17, 27 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Colleen Peterson

Just so you know, Wikipedia can't cite personal recollections as sources for our article content. If you've published a book containing your recollections about Colleen Peterson, we could cite that — but we just can't cite individual editors' memories if the statement in question hasn't been published somewhere. Thanks. Bearcat (talk) 00:41, 31 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, and thanks for catching the John Baird issue last week. I didn't have it watchlisted, but you're correct that anything about his sexual orientation doesn't belong in the article until such time as he comes out, be it voluntarily or involuntarily. I have it watchlisted now, but you also don't have to be afraid to just remove something like that yourself if need be — even if it turned into a full-on edit war with the anonymous user, removing a straight (no pun intended) BLP violation like that isn't subject to WP:3RR rules. Bearcat (talk) 00:51, 31 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yep, you're right about that. Not only do we typically have to watch MPs articles extra-carefully for BLP issues during elections, but the constant problem with unelected candidates reposting unsourced cut-and-paste copies of their campaign literature invariably hits a fever pitch as well. And then if the election results in a change of government, we'll have to start locking things down like crazy, because anonymous editors — the more involved kind already know better or can have it explained to them on their talk pages — will inevitably start changing everything, from the infobox on Canada itself to List of current heads of state and government, to reflect the patently false notion that the winner of the election instantly becomes the incumbent PM the moment one of the network anchors makes the call, rather than having to actually be sworn in by the GG first. (And occasionally we even get a psychic who starts making those changes based on who's in the lead before any of the networks actually have enough data to make that call.) It's tiresome, and sometimes it almost makes the system in Zimbabwe look good in comparison. Bearcat (talk) 17:17, 1 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The way I look at it is that the more people we have keeping an eye on things, the more bearable it'll be... Bearcat (talk) 21:04, 2 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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{{Cite web}}

Thanks for the message. To be honest I don't know what the benefits/advantages are, but as the template exists and I have a Firefox addin that generates them automatically (http://wpcite.mozdev.org/), I have been using it a lot recently. – ukexpat (talk) 21:11, 27 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Amazon reference in Them article

The customer comments on Amazon.com are just completely POV, although I thought it was a terrific review, myself. It's not really up to me to reconsider on this. I just couldn't leave it knowing the rules don't allow for commercial sites like Amazon and certainly not just a customer's review. The rateyourmusic citation is a little less questionable (someone else may disagree) but I applied the proper citation rules as used by the rest of the article. You should change the Allmusic references accordingly. Thanks for being so nice and mannerly about this. Always appreciated. Agadant (talk) 22:16, 22 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Could you refer me to any other discographies that link to reviews or commercially slanted websites. I thought just a listing of the album with Wikilinks such as this FA article of The Waterboys was all that was ever used. If the album or song doesn't have an article then there is no link. If referenced it is usually for the chart number as in the Waterboys article. What you are doing to my eyes is promoting the album with a review or commercial website to promote sales. I know this is unintentional on your part and perhaps is acceptable but I've never seen it on Wiki. Am I wrong? Just asking. Agadant (talk) 14:41, 31 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

From what I see the only time this way of linking to external sites (commercial ones at that) were done by you. The Waterboys article does not have all albums with articles and the ones without have no linking. You are putting in so many entries like this and I just don't think it is allowed.Agadant (talk) 20:57, 31 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Here's an acceptable description for the disamb. page for the album Gloria as compared to what you put: Gloria, Shadows of Knight album. Compare all the other listings there you'll not find one with the extra POV description that you put in. If you research the sales for Gloria by SOK you will find that the millions of sales that is cited by SOK on their website is due only to large sales on compilation sets of multi songs released like hits of certain decades released by Time or some such. The website for Shadows of Knight is very POV: never mentioning that Gloria is a cover, boasting about Gloria being voted #81 best rock song by VHI, when it was Them's version that was voted #81— Really intentionally misleading. Here's a link to the real VH1 list of best rock songs and it lists the THEM version. VH1 rock songs I wouldn't use anything on their website as a reference. Agadant (talk) 21:12, 31 October 2008 (UTC).[reply]

Album articles

Here's a link to the Wikiproject albums. This should have the answer to your questions. Agadant (talk) 00:01, 1 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Van Morrison discography

There is a very nice Van Morrison discography section already. Which I worked on with Kitchen Roll, who also has an extensive knowledge of Morrison. Please try to get more knowledge of how Wikipedia is supposed to work and what is acceptable. You probably will be a valuable contributor when you do.Agadant (talk) 15:54, 2 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Them article deletions

I just don't have the time to selectively revise what you edited in the discography section. I just went back to where it was before you edited it. Some of your edit is acceptable. But other parts are not. Links to reviews and commercial websites are not, neither are personal comments on the releases. I don't have much time for Wikipedia right now and most of Van Morrison's articles are edited by Wiki standards and I have no wish to see that change. It takes a lot of hard work to research, write and reference the material according to Wiki standards. If you want to re-enter the material in a consistent manner with the rest of the article - great. To be done correctly, the edits are time consuming, though. Agadant (talk) 16:51, 2 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Downchild Blues Band

The deleted text is here. The article reads like WP:OR, and has no independent verifiable sources to show that it meets the Wikipedia:Notability (music) guidelines. Being associated with notable groups doesn't in itself make them notable, they must be notable in their own right. jimfbleak (talk) 09:19, 5 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Merridee Bujaki

Thank you very much. Having to create this article really made me gain a keen interest in Wikipedia and I will be contributing more often in the near future.Chief-Diplomat (talk) 04:44, 20 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Downchild Blues Band

That's much better. I've tidied it a bit eg don't need well-known, since supposed to be notable, no refs in section headings etc. My main quibble is that you don't don't actually have references for the group winning the two awards, just a note saying what the US equivalents are (I assume the US awards are more important?) jimfbleak (talk) 07:15, 29 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

February 2009

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List of people from Thunder Bay

Don't forget to add citations to the article. I don't know if such an article really needs them or not but all the others do and you have them on the city's article so you might as well copy paste them over to the list. vıdıoman 07:22, 19 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Reliable sources

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The Babys

Make any changes needed. I wasn't sure, as I'm not very familiar with the band. Waite and Cain were too easy since they went on to greener pastures. Thanks for pointing that out. FotoPhest (talk) 15:53, 22 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Page deletion, etc

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Speedy deletion of Whisky Howl

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Speedy deletion of Whiskey Howl

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Pierre Poilievre

This page has been in need of repair for some time. I might try to do a comprehensive fix soon. CJCurrie (talk) 01:36, 15 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of Tiffany Lynn Rowe

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Don Nix redo

Wikipedia:WikiProject Musicians might be useful. The Leon Russell or Donald "Duck" Dunn might be good examples. I'll be keep an eye on it. Feel free to edit at will. • Q^#o • 16:41, 7 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Berton Averre

You're right It was pretty superlative laden (e.g. "very talented") and blatant promotion with unsourced quotes, etc. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 04:50, 30 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Re:Creation of Fat Mattress album pages; edits to Fat Mattress page

It's no problem at all; thanks a lot for the good words :) Andre666 (talk) 14:26, 2 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Music From Free Creek

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Proposed deletion of Listen My Friends! The Best of Moby Grape

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Barnstar - Moby Grape

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I hereby award you this barnstar for your accomplishments on Moby Grape and their albums. Keep up the good work! Cheers. – IbLeo (talk) 20:34, 13 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Elizabeth Hanna

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Tim Davis (musician)

Thanks for getting back to me about this article on which I had placed the underconstruction template. The reason I did that was to prevent someone else coming along and putting a speedy deletion or something on it - I had that experience myself on an article under construction and learned that it is best to place that template myself till the article is reasonably complete. Anyway, looks fine ti get rid of the template now. Suggest you pop on a reference about his death? -- Ishel99 (talk) 08:40, 23 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, Tim, I overlooked the earlier reference to his death. Love your work overall - shows a deep knowledge of your subjects and their sources! -- Ishel99 (talk) 04:11, 24 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Proposed deletion of John Witmer

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Varsity View, Saskatoon

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Bill Hawkins

I see you're currently working on the Bill Hawkins article. By coincindence I was pulling up some sources for Ian Tamblyn and came accross this article regarding a tribute album for Bill Hawkins. Not sure if you can use it or not, but it's always nice to have some reliable sources in your back pocket when expanding articles. Cheers, --Jezebel'sPonyoshhh 20:46, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sort of contributing alphabetically to BLP articles (I'm in the TA's right now), but I'll pop over and see if I can add to the Hawkins article as well. Best, Jezebel'sPonyoshhh 04:36, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello fellow 1%er

Well you of course have the right to revert any edit on your own, but I don't see any source in the article stating Nick as a member of the band. All there is is a quote saying "This grouping continued on briefly in 1975 with former Steppenwolf bassist Nick St. Nicholas replacing Dickie. The group was then largely inactive for nearly three years, until 1978", no reference at all. If you do find a source stating he was a member of the group or if I did miss a source in the article, please feel free to add him back. And I don't even see Blue Cheer mentioned in Nick's own page here. I know for sure right now that Joe Hasselvender wasn't a member of the band. He only made a guest appearance on What Doesn't Kill You... and I seriously doubt the band has had over 25 people pass though it. Rockgenre (talk) 04:17, 5 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Saturday Night Blues (album)

Hi Dreadarthur

I have added the {{refimprove}} template to the above-captioned article after you removed the {{unreferenced}} template from it. It may be obvious, but in case it's not clear, none of the claims about the primary topic of the article is supported by the references. If you have any further questions on this, don't hesitate to reply here or on the article's talk page.

Regards, Bongomatic 23:26, 6 February 2010 (UTC) Should you wish to reply, please do so here. I will watch this page for a few days, so no {{talkback}} or other comment on my talk page is required.[reply]

Many thanks for your comments here. You are correct-- I need to find more that supports the specific album, including its contents and credits. At present, the credit information is from a commercial site (CD Universe or something similar), which I can't use as a reference.
Dreadarthur (talk) 01:30, 8 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Try Google News archive. Also, for non-controversial information, allmusic.com is better than nothing. Bongomatic 02:02, 8 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ian McLelland

I just reverted a large amount of vandalism in Ian McClelland article that you had added in the past ago. You should keep an eye on your work there in case it happens again. I checked his history, he has done this to alot of politics bio articles. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.68.230.129 (talk) 05:03, 6 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I know this post was from a month ago, but I just noticed it now and figured I had to explain since I was the editor that was being accused of vandalism by this IP. Since you thanked him on his talk page for letting you know and wondered why anyone would do that to this particular article, I have to assume that you agreed with the accusations. I would like to point out that of all the edits I have made on Wikipedia, I have not once made an edit that could be considered vandalism. My edits, particularly with this one and other politician articles were edits for such policies as WP:Headings, and WP:MOSBIO, cleaning up external links, and adding references to the article. In this case, the only vandalism edits were from the IP himself who reported me for vandalism. For over a month, I have been harassed by this IP, who would come behind me and revert any significant edits I made as vandalism. (To show how bad this got, one article, I added 9 references, and was reverted as vandalism because the IP said I was adding too many references) In a couple of cases, he reported me to other editors for vandalism as was done here on your talk page. These other editors quickly figured out I was not guilty of any vandalism and if you will take a look, I'm sure you will see what I'm talking about. I know none of this is your fault, but if the IP is going to accuse me of vandalism on your talk page, I feel I have to defend myself and set the record straight.Cmr08 (talk) 06:55, 4 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Christopher Lewis

Hey thanks for setting up that new article! It did feel out of place on his brother's page. I've never created a page before, so I didn't know how to go about it. Thanks again. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wellesradio (talk • contribs) 03:47, 16 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I Go To Rio

Good but could use some catagories. team6and7 (talk) 17:20, 14 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Lovecraft sources

Hi Dreadarthur! I've been doing a fair bit of work on the H. P. Lovecraft article lately, mostly consisting of adding reliable 3rd party inline refs and re-writing sections of the article that had been plagiarized from Peter Buckley's The Rough Guide to Rock. I've more or less finished with the H. P. Lovecraft era and will soon be moving onto the Lovecraft section, most of which I think you wrote. There's some really good info there but I'm wondering if you could tell me what your sources were. I'm assuming that the Nick Warburton blog article was one of them but what other sources, if any, did you use? I'd be particularly interested in how you came by the list of former members in the Lovecraft infobox and it'd also be good to know what instruments all of these ex-members played. Anyway, if you could let me know, I will try to incorporate these sources into the supporting refs that I'll be adding to this section. Many thanks. --Kohoutek1138 (talk) 23:24, 25 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Longhorns & Londonbridges

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It is an absolute rule in Wikipedia that other Wikipedia articles are not to be used as sources for articles about anything except (in certain limited circumstances) Wikipedia itself. We require citations to reliable sources; and we make no pretense that Wikipedia, the encyclopedia that anybody can edit, is such a source. Period. If you want chapter and verse, read Wikipedia:No original research#Primary, secondary and tertiary sources.--Orange Mike | Talk 14:26, 9 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Frankie Miller Associated Acts

Thanks for your comment. Miller is a performing artist as well as a song writer, interestingly he has become better known as a song writer due to the success of his songs sung by well established artists. The list of associated artists here include primary connections, that is to say Miller wrote songs for these people. The other names are, of course, the bands and artists he worked with, they are therefore primary connections as well. I have 'Wikified' the list taking out the syntax, which are unconventional for a list in the Infobox and the list takes less vertical space now. Happy editing! --Tunebroker (talk) 23:23, 14 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Please do not add or change content without citing verifiable and reliable sources, as you did to Lee Michaels. Before making any potentially controversial edits, it is recommended that you discuss them first on the article's talk page. Please review the guidelines at Wikipedia:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. -- Cirt (talk) 15:48, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Warning about non-verifiable content - November 2010

Please stop adding or changing content without citing verifiable and reliable sources. I see from your talk page that you been warned about the lack of verifiability in your edits and your use of unreliable sources a number of times in the past. Yet you seem to have ignored these warnings and continue to add content without supporting references. With regards your recent editing of the Michael Clarke page, I am afraid that I have had to delete some of what you have added over the last few days because it is largely unsourced (and in some cases factually inaccurate). However, I have tried, where possible, to leave some unsourced information if it is not too contentious. I will attempt to add reliable inline references to support these unreferenced facts over the coming days, in order to save these parts of the article from deletion.

In addition, your use of the "References" section as a repository for lots of unsourced notes that are, at best, non-essential and at worst, totally irrelevant to the subject of the article, is rather inappropriate I feel. Yes, inline citations can be used to display text that doesn't fit into the main body of an article, but I would've thought it was obvious to anyone that this should be the exception, rather than the rule. I'm especially gob-smacked that you saw fit to remove a "Refimprove" tag from the Michael Clarke page when you have only added two, possibly three, references that meet the reliable sources criteria laid out at WP:V.

Inline citations should be used to cite reliable, independent, third-party sources, as clearly explained at Wikipedia:Inline citation and Wikipedia:Citing sources. They are not really meant for largely irrelevant, un-sourced notes. Verifiability is of the utmost importance on Wikipedia and I think Jimmy Wales himself says it best here: "it is better to have no information, than to have information with no sources." Unfortunately, you seem hell bent on ignoring this important aspect of editing on Wikipedia. As an aside, it probably wouldn't hurt for you to learn to use proper citation templates too, many of which can be found here.

I'm sorry if my comments seem harsh, but I have had issues with your editing on Wikipedia for a number of months, but have turned a blind eye to it for the most part. However, enough is enough. If you persist in adding unsourced content to Wikipedia articles and cluttering up the References section with unnecessary notes, I will be forced to report your conduct to the Administrators' noticeboard. I sincerely hope that it will not come to that. I want to make it clear that I am willing to help you source reliable, third-party references for the Michael Clarke page if you want me to. --Kohoutek1138 (talk) 20:35, 3 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I realise that you were attempting to improve the Michael Clarke page – there was never any doubt of this in my mind. My concern is that much of what you contribute, good though it is, is lacking inline citations that support the statements in your text with reliable third-party sources. If I may be so arrogant for a moment, I am something of an expert on the history of The Byrds and I must say that most of what you added was absolutely correct - which is why I tried to refrain from deleting all of your unsourced additions. But to quote WP:V, "The threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth." If you want to improve an article, adding reliable supporting references is just as important as improving the quality of the article’s text itself. This is especially true regarding any text concerning living people (such as Roger McGuinn or David Crosby) as laid out at WP:BLP.
Regarding some of the sources you used, starclustermusic and the Terry Rogers site are self-published websites and therefore do not meet the criteria for reliable sources. You could argue that the Byrdwatcher website is also a self-published source, but it is arguably the premier Byrds-related website on the internet (and The Rough Guide to Rock even named it as such), plus a number of band members have agreed to be interviewed for the site, and it is the only fansite endorsed by the official Roger McGuinn/Byrds web page. Furthermore, the Byrdwatcher site was subjected to a peer review on the reliable sources noticeboard during the Good Article review for Sweetheart of the Rodeo (see here), and the site was found to be a reliable source. Bearing all these things in mind, I'm satisfied that its use on Wikipedia is justified (although the site does get some silly facts wrong from time to time - Johnny Rogan's Byrds' biography is still the most reliable source for all things Byrds-related in my opinion).
Also, just to touch on your use of note-like references...don't be afraid to put stuff in the main body of an article. If you think it's interesting and relevant information, then the reader should see it...so put it in the text, don't hide it away as a note. For example, when you mentioned that "Captain Soul" and "Artificial Energy" were two Byrds songs Clarke had a writing credit on, you should tell the reader which albums those songs appeared on in the article text itself because it's important and relevant. No need to use footnotes.
Looking forward, I think that the first thing we should try to do is find sources for all of the text currently in the article. As for the band Firebyrd, yes...you may well be right that it is relevant but it wasn't sourced, so I decided to excise it. I have no problem reinstating this text as long as it's got a supporting ref...and actually, I've just thought of a good supporting source for this info!
Take a look at another Byrds' drummer's page, Kevin Kelley, and see how almost every sentence has a supporting inline citation after it. This is ideally what we should be striving for with the Michael Clarke article...or any other article for that matter! I'll try to add some more refs in the coming days. You obviously have a good handle on Clarke's history and I have no shortage of Byrds-related reliable sources to use for refs. So between the two of us, I'm sure we can knock this article into better shape than it is in currently. --Kohoutek1138 (talk) 02:06, 4 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
No idea what happened to Byrdwatcher or why it stopped being updated in 1997. I expect the guy who runs it just got board with it. It's a shame though because it was a really good site. As for sourcing more refs for the Michael Clarke article, feel free to start adding citations from reliable sources like the Allmusic guide, newspaper websites or any official website for the likes of Crosby or McGuinn. Books, magazines or even LP/CD liner notes can be used as well. In addition, Google Books can often be a good source for reliable third-party references too. --Kohoutek1138 (talk) 13:50, 4 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Please don't feel reluctant to edit the Michael Clarke page. Their were no real "deficiencies" in the contents of your edits, it’s just that they weren't referenced properly. Your text was well written and basically all factually correct (I think there may've been one fairly minor inaccuracy but I forget what it was now). All you really need to think about are citing reliable references and using inline notes more sparingly. I really don't mean to discourage you from editing Wikipedia, because your contributions are very valuable...they just need referencing. Anyway, I'm off now to try and answer some of your posts on the Michael Clarke talk page. --Kohoutek1138 (talk) 12:54, 5 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Well, talk pages are for discussing the contents of the article and ways to improve it but it seems a bit silly to make suggestions for someone else to follow. You should just get stuck in and write additional content yourself. I tell you what, why don't you resume adding info to the Michael Clarke article, using reliable refs like Allmusic, newspaper websites, books, magazines or LP/CD liner notes where you can. If, however, you don't have a reliable reference just add a {{Citation needed|date=November 2010}} tag and I'll try to follow up by adding refs. I'm gonna be adding additional refs anyway, so it's no bigie for me. --Kohoutek1138 (talk) 19:16, 6 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Gene Clark's brief return to The Byrds

That clip is from the Smother's Brother's Comedy Concert Hour (it's Micheal Clarke on drums) and was, just as you surmise, recorded during Gene Clark's three week long return to The Byrds in October 1967. They also mimed to "Mr. Spaceman" on the same show, with some crazy, primitive psychedelic blue screen effects going on behind them. Check it out here...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4RLuk3vfjs


Clark's return to The Byrds may not be mentioned in the Gene Clark article—I haven't done much work on that article to be honest—but then again, he was only back in the band for three weeks of his life. Still, I suppose it should be mentioned...it is fairly historic I guess.

As for the main Byrds article, Clark's return is detailed in the "Line-up changes" section but it doesn't cover specific shows that Clark appeared on because that's too much detail for an article that is supposed to give an encyclopedic overview of the history of The Byrds. The Notorious Byrd Brothers article goes into a bit more detail, however, in the "Gene Clark's return" sub-section, and even goes so far as mentioning the Smothers' Brothers show and the songs performed. If you wanna add something about Clark's return to the Gene Clark article, go ahead. I can always add supporting refs for you later. --Kohoutek1138 (talk) 13:55, 7 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I've added supporting refs for your latest additions to the Gene Clark article. However, I had to remove that part that said that Clark didn't contribute to "Goin' Back" because actually, there is some evidence to suggest that he sang backing vocals on the song. It's not a proven fact by any means, but it's certainly possible given the evidence. If you're interested, Clark’s contributions to the recording of The Notorious Byrd Brothers album are all detailed in the second paragraph of the "Gene Clark's return" sub-section of the Notorious article. --Kohoutek1138 (talk) 12:49, 8 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I've added a supporting ref to your latest additions. As for interviewing McGuinn, Crosby or Hillman, well it's a nice idea but even if they consented to an interview, it would probably constitute original research which isn't really allowed on Wikipedia. I'd also need to publish any interview I got if I was going to use it as a reference and while I'm sure the Byrds Flyght website would host it (I've had an essay on The Byrds' remastered CDs published there already) neither I or Byrds Flyght are really reliable sources...although we could probably get away with using it since it is straight from a band member’s mouth so to speak. But really the biggest concern would be violating Wikipedia's "no original research" rule, which is a big no-no. Privately e-mailing someone who was involved with events described in a Wiki article and then using that e-mail to add content to Wikipedia is definitely not encouraged. --Kohoutek1138 (talk) 13:58, 9 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed deletion of Steve Paul

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Hi Dreadarthur - I'm glad you and BeeefIsGoood have started a conversation about the edits you're concerned about. I hope that you'll take the time to read Wikipedia:Civility and keep it in mind in all further communications. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 16:52, 18 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Unfortunately 'Fair use as album cover; promotional material.' isn't a good enough rationale. Please use this template, and then you can remove the speedy delete tag. Matthew Thompson talk to me bro! 04:50, 17 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I've reduced the image size, so it is now 'low resolution', which allows me to complete the rationale, along with 'no free alternative'. An administrator will delete the older (higher res) version. Speedy delete removed. Thanks, Matthew Thompson talk to me bro! 05:34, 17 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Liberation Frequency

Hi Dreadarthur, thanks for the message on my talk page. You were fine removing the Proposed deletion notice from the article - they can be removed by anyone for any reason. However, I'm afraid that none of the sources you've added so far meet Wikipedia's standards for reliable sources. Specifically, the Liberation Frequency references are not independent of the subject (obviously) and LinkedIn pages can be written by anyone and are not subject to independent editorial oversight. What you need is coverage of Liberation Frequency in a reliable source. For example, if the BBC did a piece talking about Liberation Frequency's impact on the UK music scene, or The Times ran a piece on its innovative new business model, something like that. These will enable you to show that Liberation Frequency is notable. Please add reliable sources to the article soon, otherwise I, or another editor, will likely nominate it for a deletion discussion. Sparthorse (talk) 08:30, 26 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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If I may, a couple of points. First, if you want your opinion about the potential deletion of Liberation Frequency , please contribute at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Liberation Frequency, not on its talk page. Most editors don't look for messages on the talk page of an AfD. Your voice will only heard on the main discussion page.
Second, please understand that notability has a specific meaning on Wikipedia. It is established when other publications have covered a subject. In this case, when other reliable sources have discussed Liberation Frequency. It is just as easy/hard for an online magazine to get such coverage as an offline one. I don't feel that you have made your case that online magazines should be an exception to this rule.
Finally, if you want to make the argument that online magazines should be subject to a different set of notability requirements, then you should open a discussion at Wikipedia talk:Notability and propose this new set of notability criteria there. Trying to establish consensus for a new set of rules in an AfD is highly unlikely to work. I hope this is helpful advice, Sparthorse (talk) 06:53, 29 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Another obstacle that many people encounter is notability, i.e. what makes them important enough to have an article. For bands, a chief indicator of notability is whether they've charted. From what I saw, Thundermug has had songs in the Canadian Top 50, and an album reach gold, so this would be very important to mention in the article. If you can find links to the official charts which show this, that would be even better.
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Non-free rationale for File:Mike Harrison Rainbow Rider Cover.jpg

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Non-free rationale for File:Mike Harrison Hamburg Blues Band Cover.jpg

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Non-free rationale for File:Mike Harrison album cover.jpg

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Non-free rationale for File:The Great J.J. Jackson Cover.jpg

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Nomination of Wyn Anderson for deletion

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