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I started this page back in the early 2000s and for some reason people tried to remove it and when that failed severely edited it. I have added the withers height which is approximately 18 inches the 1930s Staffie standard before it was ruined by the show bunch. I know more about this breed than most so contact me if you wish to edit my additions please.

The difference with the APBT is that this dogs ancestor was interbred with Coon hounds and Bulldogs to bring up the size in the US. Something the Americans appear to be continueing with today with the Extreme Bully etc.

It was good news today that the UK are looking to lift dog specific legislation so the Irish Staff or Old Thyme Staffie will no longer be murdered by ignorant bureaucrats. I hope the breed will be established as a working dog capable of ratting or defending the family but still light enough to be picked up if necessary.

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+I started this page back in the early 2000s and for some reason people tried to remove it and when that failed severely edited it. I have added the withers height which is approximately 18 inches the 1930s Staffie standard before it was ruined by the show bunch. I know more about this breed than most so contact me if you wish to edit my additions please.
+The difference with the APBT is that this dogs ancestor was interbred with Coon hounds and Bulldogs to bring up the size in the US. Something the Americans appear to be continueing with today with the Extreme Bully etc.
+It was good news today that the UK are looking to lift dog specific legislation so the Irish Staff or Old Thyme Staffie will no longer be murdered by ignorant bureaucrats. I hope the breed will be established as a working dog capable of ratting or defending the family but still light enough to be picked up if necessary.