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Just want to point out that [[User:Abudabanas|Abudabanas]] doesn't seem to understand most of the Wikipedia rules he's previously violated, including copyright. With that being said, I don't see a point in paying attention to anything he says until the checkuser process is complete. In addition to that, based on what he has written above, he deliberately uses the same emotional words over and over again, quoting certain passages from before and claiming he wants to "present" or "shed light" on the truth, whilst at the same time "truth hurts" and "there are some users" (I guess that's about me) who are desperately trying to hide it from public view. Not sure what exactly is going on here, but Abudabanas openly claims there is a Wikipedia conspiracy against his team, making his argument look even more flawed, contradictory and sad. As I've previously said, this is NOT a soccer forum and shouldn't be treated as a page for assumptions or random copyright violations. So far, it looks as Abudabanas's failed attempt to support their own beliefs and football team. Without further ado, I believe that a ban is the most appropriate way to deal with this matter. All other socketpuppets should also be included in this to protect Wikipedia pages from further vandalism in the future. Hope this makes sense. [[User:Glucken123|Glucken123]] ([[User talk:Glucken123|talk]]) 13:36, 17 April 2019 (UTC) |
Just want to point out that [[User:Abudabanas|Abudabanas]] doesn't seem to understand most of the Wikipedia rules he's previously violated, including copyright. With that being said, I don't see a point in paying attention to anything he says until the checkuser process is complete. In addition to that, based on what he has written above, he deliberately uses the same emotional words over and over again, quoting certain passages from before and claiming he wants to "present" or "shed light" on the truth, whilst at the same time "truth hurts" and "there are some users" (I guess that's about me) who are desperately trying to hide it from public view. Not sure what exactly is going on here, but Abudabanas openly claims there is a Wikipedia conspiracy against his team, making his argument look even more flawed, contradictory and sad. As I've previously said, this is NOT a soccer forum and shouldn't be treated as a page for assumptions or random copyright violations. So far, it looks as Abudabanas's failed attempt to support their own beliefs and football team. Without further ado, I believe that a ban is the most appropriate way to deal with this matter. All other socketpuppets should also be included in this to protect Wikipedia pages from further vandalism in the future. Hope this makes sense. [[User:Glucken123|Glucken123]] ([[User talk:Glucken123|talk]]) 13:36, 17 April 2019 (UTC) |
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:{{ping|Glucken123}} I do not claim that there is a Wikipedia conspiracy against my edit and i totally deny that i used sockpuppets. There is no such thing as a conspiracy here but there is an Olympiacos fan instead who is searching for co-authors to write a book on Olympiacos history (as can be seen on your user page) and reverted my edit. I totally respect that and wish you good luck in finding them. I only tried to present the truth by describing facts (exactly what happened as can be seen on videos) and translated interviews and documents and not my own beliefs. I do accept that i have to study better Wikipedia terms of use though. Especially about copyright violations. Enough said. [[User:Abudabanas|Abudabanas]] ([[User talk:Abudabanas|talk]]) 12:02, 21 April 2019 (UTC) |
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Abudabanas
Abudabanas (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
17 April 2019
Suspected sockpuppets
- Xpek20 (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Dikaiosynh (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki) (account added by Glucken123)
- Thankos1973 (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- 188.117.243.65 (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- 212.205.171.49 (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki) Please note: IP 212.205.171.49 is currently blocked on el.wiki for vandalising the Greek version of 2017–18 Superleague Greece. Please see current block on 17 April 2019. On the Greek wiki, the same IP, in the edit-summaries, tells editors to check the English Wikipedia article because his opponent Glucken123 cannot vandalise it at en.wiki. The same IP has been attacking Glucken123 on the talkpage of the en.wiki article and has also reverted him on the actual article, just like the master. Please see the contributions of IP 212.205.171.49 on en.wiki.
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- Main protagonists
- Master Abudabanas and associated socks want to tell the world the WP:TRUTH that PAOK F.C. lost the championship to AEK F.C. through cheating and try to WP:RIGHTGREATWRONGS by slanting the 2017–18 Superleague Greece article in PAOK's favour. Their ambitious plan includes vandalising or adding strong pro-PAOK FC POV, OR and copyvios to articles in both el.wiki and en.wiki.
- Introduction
It all started when I noticed an epic edit-war at 2017–18 Superleague Greece (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). I notified the edit-warring users and got a reply from one of them, Glucken123. I advised Glucken123 to use the talkpage instead of reverting any more. Glucken123 went to the article talk and stated that Abudabanas had violated copyright among other editorial transgressions. I checked the copyvio claims, and they turned out to be true. I reverted Abudabanas with an edit-summary stating the copyvio report and also that anyone reverting me would be blocked. Then all hell broke loose. IPs started vandalising the article in support of PAOK, while two new accounts appeared, one reverting me, the other stating that the championship was stolen from PAOK. I think all the coincidences are too much. Sounds like a duck quacking into a megaphone to me. Dr. K. 00:06, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
- Disclaimer
- I am requesting CU for the registered accounts, not the IPs. Thank you. Dr. K. 05:45, 17 April 2019 (UT]]C)
Comments by other users
Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.
Added the whole truth based on videos and interviews about 2017-18 Superleague Greece 2 most important matches decided by court decision.Hello. I am user Abudabanas. I made an edit on 2017-18 Superleague Greece article. Wikipedia was simply writing that Superleague Greece 2017-18 was suspended on 12 March because Savvidis invaded the pitch with his gun. Ok ,Savvidis indeed invaded the pitch but the way it is written is wrong .Someone must truly understand exactly what happened. Was he aiming at someone? Was the gun in his hands? No ,it was on his belt . Why was Savvidis furious? What caused him to invade the pitch? There was a 90th minute goal (added reference with video of the goal from official Superleague Greece TV Partner) where referee and linesman initially credited the goal to PAOK and approximately 4 minutes later (you can watch the video and count the time if you want) they altered their decision. It was a championship decider game and a very important decision of the referee. Should'nt anyone can see that? So ,i made an edit based on video footage from official Superleague TV partner and articles from independent sources (like espn.com) to decsribe exactly what happened .I translated and added the interviews (with references) of people from both teams who spoke after the two games. After PAOK-AEK spoke PAOK goalkeeper Paschalakis and AEK midfielder Kone. Translated ,added references and added exactly what they both said. It was Kone who said "We were asking the referee to tell us inside. Why sould we go out in order to tell us his decision? To play 5 minutes?". I didn' say that. Kone did. I simply translated what he said. It was AEK representative Dimitriadis heard in audio worrying about AEK players safety. It wasn't me on the tape recording. I simply added reference so that anyone can hear. After PAOK-Olympiacos i added Olympiacos communications chief Karapappas statement and afterwards PAOK communications chief Kyriakos statement. Translated, added references and wrote exactly what they said. Added also PAOK manager Lucescu comment to the media for the incident. I know it is annoying for many because he said 'Cowards' but that is what he said. It is also annoying when you are an Olympiacos fan and you read that Olympiacos communications chief Karapappas was insisting that the object that hit Olympiacos manager was a sealed cash register paper roll which is as heavy as a stone. Didn't say that. Karapappas did . I only translated and added a reference with the video of Oscar Garcia injury from official Superleague Greece TV partner (Novasports) where anyone can see that the cash register paper roll was unfolding through the air. If i violated copyrights by adding references from espn.com ,novasports.gr ,sport24.gr i don't know and i apologise if i did . Someone else maybe can add proper references. Added also Olympiacos manager Garcia statement through social media 2 days after the game. Added private clinic statement with medical report on Garcia's condition. Many fans don't want the truth to be unveiled. I wrote down exactly what happened. I wrote nothing based on my personal opinion. I only translated interviews and statements of people from both teams for the article to be 100% fair. Because i knew that truth on what happened last year can be annoying for many, several times on the article when writing something i included the words as can be seen in video footage or as can be heard in audio and added the proper references too. Everything i added happened exactly as i wrote it down. Everyone who wants to question that can watch the videos and tell me if anything in the article is not the truth. Took me several hours to find all the independent sources and videos for the references. I wrote nothing on Greek Wiki article ,i made an edit only on the english version and i never used sockpuppets. As i explained i did not write down my personal opinion. I simply translated everything told by the protagonists. Thank you all .Abudabanas (talk) 08:14, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
Clearly a sockpuppet. Most of his text and contributions should not be accepted on Wikipedia, whilst his vandalistic tendencies are unhelpful and lead to edit wars. Thanks in advance for looking into this matter. Glucken123 (talk) 10:43, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
- @Glucken123: Never been banned on Wikipedia and today i searched the internet for sockpuppet meaning. I never used sockpuppets ,i love football statistics and you can see that if you search for what pages i made my most edits. I also want the truth to be spoken about what exactly happened in those 2 matches . Never wrote anything on Greek Wiki article and i also never wrote down my personal assumptions in the 2017-18 Superleague Greece article. I simply translated interviews of the protagonists of both teams to be 100% fair.Thank youAbudabanas (talk) 12:49, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
- @Cabayi: I made an edit on 2017-18 Superleague Greece about what happened on 2 most important matches of season. I knew that many people would not want the truth to be shown. It is an ugly truth, believe me. Please, find some time and check on the edit i made. You 'll need about an hour of your time. Check all the videos, the references, the translations and if i was not writing the truth do not allow the edit to be published and block me. Thank youAbudabanas (talk) 13:09, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
Just want to point out that Abudabanas doesn't seem to understand most of the Wikipedia rules he's previously violated, including copyright. With that being said, I don't see a point in paying attention to anything he says until the checkuser process is complete. In addition to that, based on what he has written above, he deliberately uses the same emotional words over and over again, quoting certain passages from before and claiming he wants to "present" or "shed light" on the truth, whilst at the same time "truth hurts" and "there are some users" (I guess that's about me) who are desperately trying to hide it from public view. Not sure what exactly is going on here, but Abudabanas openly claims there is a Wikipedia conspiracy against his team, making his argument look even more flawed, contradictory and sad. As I've previously said, this is NOT a soccer forum and shouldn't be treated as a page for assumptions or random copyright violations. So far, it looks as Abudabanas's failed attempt to support their own beliefs and football team. Without further ado, I believe that a ban is the most appropriate way to deal with this matter. All other socketpuppets should also be included in this to protect Wikipedia pages from further vandalism in the future. Hope this makes sense. Glucken123 (talk) 13:36, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
- @Glucken123: I do not claim that there is a Wikipedia conspiracy against my edit and i totally deny that i used sockpuppets. There is no such thing as a conspiracy here but there is an Olympiacos fan instead who is searching for co-authors to write a book on Olympiacos history (as can be seen on your user page) and reverted my edit. I totally respect that and wish you good luck in finding them. I only tried to present the truth by describing facts (exactly what happened as can be seen on videos) and translated interviews and documents and not my own beliefs. I do accept that i have to study better Wikipedia terms of use though. Especially about copyright violations. Enough said. Abudabanas (talk) 12:02, 21 April 2019 (UTC)
Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments
- This case is being reviewed by Cabayi as part of the clerk training process. Please allow Cabayi to process the entire case without interference, and pose any questions or concerns either on Cabayi's Talk page or on this page if more appropriate. Cabayi (talk) 11:21, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
- Clerk endorsed - Much of this looks like a plain old edit war involving multiple editors with the same POV, but the sudden appearance of Xpek20... Xpek20 looks like somebody's sock. Please CU the named users. Cabayi (talk) 11:24, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
- Abudabanas and Xpek20 are Confirmed. I've blocked and tagged Xpek20. I've blocked Abudabanas for three days. The other two accounts are Unrelated. No comment with respect to IP address(es).--Bbb23 (talk) 13:56, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
- Awaiting administrative action - Please block for 3 days in line with the master.
- 188.117.243.65 just looks like a normal, inane vandal and has been cautioned. Cabayi (talk) 14:20, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
- Withdrawing request for block on IP - the semi protection on the battleground article renders it pointless. Closing. Cabayi (talk) 15:16, 18 April 2019 (UTC)