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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by Swarm (talk | contribs) at 00:25, 15 May 2022 (→Requested move 14 May 2022: Reply). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

Title

I think "New York" should remain in the title. This may not be in line with precedence, but this isn't the only city named Buffalo that has experienced a mass shooting. (2021 Buffalo clinic attack) 2603:7080:1E39:6663:4929:D07B:74EA:5881 (talk) 21:55, 14 May 2022 (UTC)2603:7080:1e39:6663:4929:d07b:74ea:5881[reply]

Perhaps, given 2021 Buffalo clinic attack. It's a very awkward title though, and 2021 Buffalo clinic attack should also be moved if this one is. ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 22:10, 14 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I've already moved that article title to Buffalo, Minnesota clinic attack. Love of Corey (talk) 00:01, 15 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Per precedence, shouldn't the article remain as 2022 Buffalo shooting or 2022 Buffalo, New York shooting? This is the usual style used for these mass shootings ex. 2022 Sacramento shooting, 2021 Boulder shooting, 2019 El Paso shooting. Lettlerhello • contribs 22:17, 14 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Lettler I second that. Avoids the bulkiness of having the state name, and (so far) there have not been any other Buffalo mass shootings in 2022.Augusthorsesdroppings10 (talk) 23:20, 14 May 2022 (UTC)User:Augusthorsesdroppings10[reply]

Unclear meaning

“ Because he had heavily armored plating on, the bullet had no round. ” what does that mean, for people who don’t understand weapon-speak? 2600:1700:F90:6950:7C22:D9B:B84E:650A (talk) 22:27, 14 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

White supremacy?

Who determined that? Are you all mind readers? 23.114.209.214 (talk) 22:28, 14 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The term has been used in several sources, and both the FBI and Erie County Sheriff have described the shooting as "racially motivated." We shall see how things shake out. Dumuzid (talk) 22:31, 14 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
He calls himself a white supremacist in his manifesto. 24.144.227.41 (talk) 00:18, 15 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Wrong supermarket linked

Tops Supermarket is a south east Asian chain, as far as i can tell. The article should link to Tops Friendly Markets --Tritium21 (talk) 22:57, 14 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The article correctly links to Tops Friendly Markets. Cullen328 (talk) 23:00, 14 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
It does now, at least --Tritium21 (talk) 23:03, 14 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

See Alsos

Since we're listing various other racist shootings (like Charleston, El Paso, etc.), perhaps Joseph Christopher could be listed? While his crimes were in 1980, he mostly operated in the Buffalo area and targeted African-Americans. Paris1127 (talk) 23:14, 14 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 14 May 2022

2022 Buffalo mass shooting → 2022 Buffalo shooting – Per other articles about mass shootings, e.g. 2017 Las Vegas shooting, Orlando nightclub shooting, Virginia Tech shooting, Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting, etc., etc. I've never seen an article about a mass shooting titled "[Insert location name here] mass shooting". Love of Corey (talk) 23:38, 14 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. Cadenrock1 (talk) 23:52, 14 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support The "mass" part of the title isn't important. Nythar (talk) 00:09, 15 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support per OP. Swordman97 talk to me 00:10, 15 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
no Oppose The correct title would be Buffalo supermarket shooting. Place names are at a higher priority than the date. Dunutubble (talk) (Contributions) 00:12, 15 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
So why isn't 2019 El Paso shooting called El Paso supermarket shooting? Nythar (talk) 00:15, 15 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support per OP. Lettlerhello • contribs 00:13, 15 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Sure, works for me. (Page creator if that speeds things up...) ---Another Believer (Talk) 00:17, 15 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It should say 2022 Buffalo Shooting Thepanthersfan201 (talk) 00:16, 15 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Gunman's name removed again. Major BLP issue

Three sources were cited. Two were the same AP article, one seems to have been copying it based on how things were worded. Both said that unnamed law enforcement articles gave the guy's name. No source said they had independently confirmed that. WP:BLPCRIME still applies here. We don't name people who someone anonymously told a journalist did something. I've removed the name again. There's no rush here, y'all. We don't get paid more for a big scoop. What matters is that we get it right, and right on the first try. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she/they) 23:57, 14 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Is the name not confirmed yet? Thepanthersfan201 (talk) 00:18, 15 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 15 May 2022

Change to Terrorism attack type 73.141.181.50 (talk) 00:05, 15 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 00:11, 15 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The Manifesto

Are we really going to post information from the manifesto but not let others view it? Who is interpreting it? This is certainly against Wikipedia guideline to post information from it through a third party but not reference it directly.--Mapsfly (talk) 00:21, 15 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Edit requests

I suggest we begin removing duplicate or trolling edit requests, rather than answering, and if necessary establish a FAQ. Also please remember that BLP applies to talk pages. Names without sources should be removed. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 00:17, 15 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 15 May 2022 (2)

On reactions "All of the Buffalo area sports teams tweeted out messages showing condolences for the families of the victims and a call for unity." 76.82.51.127 (talk) 00:20, 15 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 00:22, 15 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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