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But the issue with the Vickers source is one of interpretation. These are straws, these are very real rejoinders which Vickers tried to address in the...

disagree with one another. For pain, Vickers' review contradicts the Ernst's recent ones, and if anything Vickers is a stronger MEDRS than Ernst. It's...

you read that source and conclude that Vickers did not reject Ernst's analysis of Vickers's paper, or that Vickers does not continue to claim that the acupuncture...

the reader not knowing who Vickers is; we can mention that. Should we mention Vickers' point before Ernst and cite to Vickers original review, or mention...

Given that the Vickers paper has been updated since Ernst's criticisms and that Vickers addressed the comments by Ernst i.e. Vickers found basically...

literature.[4] This is Coquhoun, as quoted by Vickers: "acupuncture does not work to any useful extent ... Vickers et al showed that the difference is far too...

The author of this source is Edzard Ernst. He invalided the Vickers study. That Vickers study shows no meaningful difference according to which experts...

statistical significance. Note that that Vickers and Colquhoun have disagreement about clinical significance: Vickers argues that the clinical decision is...

seems like acupuncture is actually good for something, but this is from Vickers, so I kept reading to figure out how he tortured the data to give a positive...

edsum? -Roxy the sceptical dog. wooF 19:17, 24 October 2021 (UTC) The Vickers et al. paper is already cited in the article, followed by criticism of...

dental therapies are not RCT tested and no one call them pseudoscience. Dr Vickers report on acupuncture for pain from MSKCC is a major resource and evidence...

criticized Vickers in a comment to The Guardian [58], yet the article gives that about the same space as Vickers itself. It's possible that Vickers' critics...

20:17, 11 September 2012 (UTC) Here's the submission in citations format: Vickers, Andrew J. (2012). "Acupuncture for Chronic Pain:Individual Patient Data...

effect (cite Vickers and Ernst here). The authors of those two reviews do disagree over the interpretation that the other gives, with Vickers maintaining...

the effects of acupuncture exclusively are a placebo response." Andrew Vickers, lead author of the original 2012 paper and chair of the Acupuncture Trialists'...

That prediction is pretty much consistent with Vickers' findings that specific effects are small. Vickers (the field's only IPD meta-analysis) and Ernst...

duplicated via other means. This is the view espoused by Vickers and (IIRC) the editorial introducing Vickers, and (implicitly anyway) by the body that acted on...

because the patient believes it will have an impact", citing it to Ernst and Vickers, and being done with it. Trying to do it piecemeal runs the risk of imbalancing...

Source(s) meeting WP:RS/AC? On the contrary, the best MEDRS we have (Vickers, an IPD meta-analysis) finds for efficacy for several kinds of pain; the...

(UTC) The two primary reviews of effectiveness for acupuncture (Ernst and Vickers) both conclude that any actual effect of acupuncture is smaller than its...