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Exmoor pony
[edit]There are feral Exmoor Ponies. "The Exmoor Pony is the oldest and most primitive of the British native ponies, as well as the purest, and some herds still roam free in the moors of southwest England (i.e. Exmoor)."Barbara Shack (talk) 16:19, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
- Your source? Is "Herds roam free" the same as "feral," though? I mean, the Piper stud lets their young Lipizzan horses "roam free" too -- for the first 3-4 yerars, but they also halter break them, groom them, etc... Not saying you are wrong, but a few abandoned ponies running loose doesn't make for a free-breeding "feral" population. May be a fine point, but see the article feral for what I am talking about. Anyway, if you can source your Quote with a source (other than wikipedia itself), I am fine with that. Montanabw(talk) 05:40, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
Re-introduction of horses in 15th century is still under debate
[edit]I'll leave this to the heavy hitters out there, but I seem to remember a controversy based on the notion that the evolution of the horse (all 3 subspecies) remained in small population within North America, and hence did not need re-introduction. That it is no longer considered the case that all free-roaming horses in North America are descendants from domestic horses starting from the Conquistadors circa 1515 (Cortez?).Tgm1024 (talk) 15:38, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
- The "left behind" theory is discredited, and was mostly a pipe dream of some of the "wild horse" advocates hoping to argue that the Mustang was a native species. Montanabw(talk) 23:19, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
“It needs to be more widely understood that the #horse’s status as a #native North American species is beyond serious question.”
— Ross MacPhee, PhD, Curator, Division of Vertebrate Zoology, American Museum of Natural History Greenineugene (talk) 00:15, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
Sorraia
[edit]Is there any source for feral Sorraia, living completely without human interference? Where do they live? -- DFoidl (talk) 09:41, 23 April 2013 (UTC)
- "Feral" doesn't necessarily mean "completely" without human interference, it means a domesticated species living in the wild, which may not necessarily mean all animals in that group (for example, Mustangs and Brumbies are routinely caught and trained); see Sorraia for details. We probably could take some source material from that article and add it here. We also have a bit of research to do on the question of what is and is not a landrace, as the term is pretty new as applied to horses. I hesitate to use it overmuch. Montanabw(talk) 20:43, 23 April 2013 (UTC)
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Section is scientifically obsolete & poorly referenced
[edit]This section is scientifically obsolete & poorly referenced: “In North America, feral horses are the offspring of horses that were domesticated in Europe, although many ancient, prehistoric subspecies now extinct evolved in North America. While there are similarities shown in certain genes of both modern and fossil North American horses, they are not believed to be members of the same species.[7]” First, current science holds that Equus caballus, the modern horse, originated in North America about 1.7 million years ago. Both of these sentences are incorrect. Second, the reference for these is an advocacy piece by an advocacy group, the Wildlife Society. This kind of does moy meet Wikipedia standards. Greenineugene (talk) 00:13, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
Reference for origin of Equus caballus in North America… https://pgl.soe.ucsc.edu/horses.html Greenineugene (talk) 16:50, 18 August 2021 (UTC)