Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Georgios Spanoudakis

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The result was delete. Deor (talk) 10:00, 8 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Georgios Spanoudakis

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Contested PROD. Concern was Article about a footballer who fails WP:GNG and who has not played in a fully pro league. PROD was contested by the article's creator without providing a reason. Sir Sputnik (talk) 17:16, 31 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. Giant Snowman 17:20, 31 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - According to Weltfussball has only played on youth level, not notable. Calistemon (talk) 23:38, 31 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Keep He meets WP:GNG [1] (2007), [2] (2009), [3] (2010), [4] (2012), [5] [6] (2013), [7], [8], [9], [10], [11], [12], [13] - That's significant coverage in reliable sources from Spain, the UK, Greece and Germany. --Yoda1893 (talk) 22:39, 1 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Almost all of these are routine transfer announcements, which do not amount to significant coverage. Sir Sputnik (talk) 00:58, 3 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

A lot of these sources AREN'T transfer announcements. It also isn't routine for Sport (Spanish newspaper), El Mundo Deportivo (newspaper), Daily Mail, Daily Star (British newspaper), Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung, Rheinische Post or Sport Bild to write an article about the transfer of a 9 year or 15 year old football player. Thaht's only because he's considered as wonder kid. These newspapers don't write ANY article about 99 percent of all players at the same age. --Yoda1893 (talk) 09:26, 3 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Yoda1893: Just because he has been labelled as a 'wonder kid' isn't to say that he will have a professional career in the sport. To do so would be WP:CRYSTAL. Wikipedia isn't meant to host articles for youth footballers who possibly might be the next big thing. Spiderone 20:24, 5 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

What if the coverage calling him a wonderkid meets WP:GNG? That would make WP:CRYSTAL irrelevant. I note above that Sir Sputnik notes that almost all of the references are routine - wait, that implies that some are non-routine. Nfitz (talk) 16:45, 6 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Nfitz, please do not twist my words into something that I very obviously didn't mean. Or would you like me to infer from your use of the conditional that you think the answer to your "what if" question is no. It would be equally absurd. Just because explicitly express an opinion on some of these sources doesn't mean you get to twist my silence into whatever opinion happens to take your fancy and present it as mine. Sir Sputnik (talk) 17:15, 6 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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I haven't had opportunity to review the sources. The choice of your normally carefully chosen words though caught my attention. Which sources did you think weren't routine? Surely anytime that WP:GNG is met then WP:CRYSTAL is irrelevant; I don't see how the conditionality has any impact on that. Is WP:GNG met - I have no opinion on that, not having reviewed any sources. Nfitz (talk) 18:08, 6 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - fails GNG and NFOOTBALLER. Quis separabit? 01:04, 5 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - the article can always be created again if and when he ever makes a professional appearance Spiderone 20:21, 5 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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