Electrical Circuit Breaker Burns, Fails to Trip, Continues to Conduct Power:
Circuit breaker performance data & field failure reports. This document demonstrates detection and fire risks of a bad electrical circuit breaker which burned, failed to trip, and remained live in the electric panel.
Page top photo of a UBI circuit breaker overheating and smoking under testing, courtesy of Dr. Jess Aronstein.
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A 2017 study by Dr. Jess Aronstein found significant no-trip failures among three brands of circuit breakers (UBI, Siemens/Murray)* and essentially no significant failure rates among three other brands of circuit breakers:
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Dr. Aronstein, an independent electrical engineer who has performed testing for various government and private agencies notes that the UBI-brand circuit breakers were the worst performing of the group tested.
Aronstein commented (May 2017):
The UBIs are the worst of the lot, and they are the only ones other than FPE that have shown a tendency for the 2-pole breakers to jam.
The surprise was that the Siemens and Murray (identical breakers with different paper labels on them) are not meeting the UL spec.
Next problem is that although many people and organizations have the authority to do something about it, nobody has the responsibility to take any action.
A 1980 US CPSC study found that aging electrical systems are a factor in the occurrence of electrical fires in homes, an observation confirmed separately by Aronstein in explaining aluminum wiring hazards in what Aronstein calls the "bathtub curve" that maps failure rates over time.
Failures occur early in the wiring system life due to original installation defects and then failures occur again at an increased rate late in the installation's life as the wiring ages and as it has been exposed to the vagaries of use over decades. This bathtub curve of failure rates is illustrated
at ALUMINUM WIRING SAFETY ASSESSMENT.
Older homes often have electrical receptacles and fixtures that are ungrounded, and many local codes do not require that they be rewired so they're grounded. Still, grounding is worth adding to your system because it adds protection against electrical shock.
But Dini points out that "... most of the hazardous conditions found in the 30 houses [studied] could be attributed to a lack of compliance with a specific code requirement". (Dini 2008).
[Click to enlarge any image] Source of the table above: personal email, Dr. Jess Aronstein to Daniel Friedman, 2017/05/11 & 2017/10/19.
Above, circuit breaker failure test results for these circuit breaker brands (left to right): Bryant/Westinghouse, Square-D, Bulldog (Pushmatic), GE, ITE, Zinsco, FPE (Stab-Lok), UBI (replacement breakers for several panels), Murray, Crouse Hinds.
This failure data test report is as of 29 September 2017 and includes tests performed by David W. Carrier and Jess Aronstein between 2013 and 2017.
At MOLDED CASE CIRCUIT BREAKERS - SOME HOLES IN THE ELECTRICAL SAFETY NET [PDF] you will find the latest research by these authors in an IEEE paper to be published in 2018.
Notes on Aronstein's chart indicate:
1. Data points on this chart are 1-pole breakers and worst case poles of 2-pole breakers.
2. These used [circuit] breakers are field samples that were removed from buildings during upgrades or renovations.
3. FPE [circuit breaker failure test result] data is representative of 3000 breakers that have been tested.
Dr. Aronstein would like to obtain and test UBI (Connecticut Electric) Zinsco type replacement breakers that might be in your electrical panel. They are usually grey in color, and might have been installed as replacements or when new circuits were added.
To date I have tested only four of the UBI-Z types, and all four failed to perform properly. If you have any of the UBI-Z breakers, please send them to:
Jesse Aronstein, Ph.D., P.E.
909 Londonderry Ct.
Schenectady, NY 12309
Noting that you found this request at this InspectApedia.com web page: https://inspectapedia.com/electric/Circuit_Breaker_Failures.php
Articles describing other in-service or "used" circuit breaker brands are included in this article below
at CIRCUIT BREAKER FAILURE RESEARCH.
The circuit breaker test standard, UL-489, is described and cited
at UBI FPE CIRCUIT BREAKER TEST RESULTS where you will also find additional test results that included both new and used UBI circuit breakers.
I'm looking to replace an old panel for a variety of reasons. I'm wondering where I can find recent performance/fire/etc data on various brands of circuit breakers so I can form an idea of which brands to favor or avoid in selecting a new panel.
I'm also curious about which brands have the best performing (C)AFCI and GFCI breakers since most searches are flooded with the problems that all brands had in the early days of AFCI. Is there are good source for this information? Many thanks!
This question was originally posted
at ELECTRICAL INSPECTION, DIAGNOSIS, REPAIR
Reply:
Steve you ask a fair question.
From speaking with industry experts over several decades it's apparent that most of the circuit breakers and panels by major equipment manufacturers perform very well, with failure-rates (as in fail-to-trip in response to an overcurrent) are at a very small fraction - well under 1 per-cent.
The highest "generic" opinion about circuit breaker failure to trip rates that I have found was reported at 4% as anecdotal evidence by Koty (undated, retrieved 2015, cited below).
Our OPINION is that in most installations conventional residential circuit breakers from most manufacturers almost never fail to trip when they should - certainly that is the expectation of consumers.
Illustrated above, a Classified circuit breaker (burned, damaged) discussed
at Classified CIRCUIT BREAKER WARNING.
A few brands of older equipment described in articles at InspectApedia such as Challenger, FPE-Stab-Lok, Zinsco have notably higher problem and failure rates, in some cases as high as 60% no-trip rates. That's a failure rate around 600 times worse than what we expect in the industry.
We are now in the 4th generation of AFCI devices - so I would not tar current brands with more historical issues, but I agree that nuisance tripping, particularly on AFCI's has been a reported problem yet to be fully addressed.
See AFCIs ARC FAULT CIRCUIT INTERRUPTERS for examples. That article includes a link to an IEEE article on what we can and cannot expect from AFCIs and how they perform.
David Carrie, a New York electrical engineer briefly continued Jess Aronstein's work on testing circuit breaker performance independently of work supported by manufacturers but regrettably, although he reported (to me privately) that some current circuit breaker brands seemed to have higher no-trip rates than the industry average, he did not complete nor report that research publicly.
By 2014 it appeared that David had moved on to other projects. Dr. Aronstein took up that task once again and in 2017 we include some of his recent test results here.
Watch out: circuit breaker trip testing such as described both by Koty (op.cit). and by vendors of clamp-on ammeters is a dangerous proposal, especially if the breakers and equipment are installed in the building they are intended to serve. For example testing a circuit breaker in-situ in a home by putting a deliberate overload on the circuit risks setting the building on fire.
Other do it yourself or homeowner circuit breaker testing risks include inaccurate test results, conducting an improper test that does not properly assure that the circuit breaker will perform correctly under varying conditions of load, time, and environments, reporting as "safe" a breaker that is in fact not compliant with ANSI C37 nor UL standards such as UL 489 or other pertinent circuit breaker testing standards, and worst: some problem brands such as FPE experience an increased fail-to-trip rate (fail to open in response to an over current) after the breaker has been "exercised" either by switching it on and off or by exposing it to an overcurrent.
We do not recommend circuit-breaker testing by homeowners, electricians, nor in-situ testing of circuit breakers unless conducted by an expert.
You don't need a VOM or digital volt meter to see bad burn ups like the circuit breaker failures shown in this article but this failure is a strong recommendation for use of digital multimeters or simple neon testers to confirm that circuit breakers really do turn off the power.
On opening the panel, arcing and burn marks were obvious. Note the black stains along the left side of the right-hand bus bar above the highest breaker in the panel.
Note also the corrosion present at the neutral bus and bus bar connector at the panel bottom right corner. This panel was in a wet utility basement of an old house in New York state.
However it did not appear that moisture in the panel from basement conditions was the root cause of overheating and damage. There was not general corrosion throughout the panel.
The panel itself was relatively new, less than ten years old.
A look at the center of the panel shows pieces of circuit breaker plastic and other debris that was obviously a product of arcing and burning at one of the circuit breakers.
A closer look at the same area shows a piece of one of the right-hand breakers sitting atop the lower breaker on the left. Notice the red and white corroded material at the lower right corner of the top breaker.
J. Aronstein suggests that overheating in the breaker burned off zinc or other anti-corrosive plating leading to bleed-out of rust particles.
Other breakers in the panel, presumably of the same age, did not show these visual indications of damage.
Finally, shifting the angle and getting some better light on the subject one could see that the lower of the uppermost two breakers in the panel right side had burned badly where it was connected to the aluminum bus of the panel.
It was remarkable that despite severe damage to the breaker and panel bus, the breaker was still conducting current to the circuit connected to it.
During a home inspection inspectors should not touch equipment like this. Using a TIF Instruments Tic Tracer it was possible to confirm live electrical power at various points. Of course, what's called-for is an immediate repair which most likely requires replacement of the bus assembly and breakers if not the whole panel.
Home inspectors are not forensic engineers, but it appears obvious to anyone looking at this equipment in-situ that overheating at the connection of the breaker to the panel bus must have led to arcing, breaker damage, and thus creation of an unsafe condition in which there is very likely no overcurrent protection being provided by this equipment.
You don't need a VOM or digital volt meter to see bad burn ups like this but this failure is a strong recommendation for use of digital multimeters or simple neon testers to confirm that circuit breakers really do turn off the power.
Recent research citations on circuit breaker performance and breaker failure rates such as no-trip or failure to trip in response to an over-current.
Other critical electrical system failures that are directly or closely related to individual circuit breaker brands, models, or wiring practices are explained and photo-documented at the live-linked articles just above.
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Below you will find questions and answers previously posted on this page at its page bottom reader comment box.
Re-posted by Moderator:
NEMA responded to the Jesse Aronstein "holes in the safety net" article, as summarized here: www.ecmag.com/magazine/articles/article-detail/your-business-nema-responds-circuit-breakers-study-suggested-holes-safety-net
"“These experts have reviewed the article … and determined that it creates a misleading impression about the reliability of thermal magnetic circuit breakers in providing general protection against electrical fire hazards,” the memo states."
Any way to get and post the full letter?
Moderator Reply - where to see the full NEMA letter responding to circuit breaker study
@Bryce Nesbitt,
We have contacted NEMA and have requested a copy of the original NEMA letter cited by Mr. Johnson.
A copy is here: NEMA Responds to Circuit Breakers Study That Suggested ‘Holes in Safety Net [PDF] By Timothy Johnson | Sep 10, 2018, Electrical Contractor Magazine, original source: ecmag [dot] com/magazine/articles/article-detail/your-business-nema-responds-circuit-breakers-study-suggested-holes-safety-net
Timothy Johnson is the former digital editor for ELECTRICAL CONTRACTOR magazine.
You should understand that electrical contractors and NEMA, while people whom we deeply respect, are not neutral professionals, and the "experts" mention remain unnamed.
In our opinion, if an expert isn't willing to put their name on their work it's a bit less compelling.
NEMA, the National Electrical Manufacturers Association, is both a standards-setting agency whose committees write standards for the manufacturing of electrical equipment and medical imaging equipment AND a manufacturer's trade association - that is, charged with protecting the interests of its 450 member companies.
Nema's website, informs us:
Founded in 1926, NEMA is an ANSI-accredited Standards Developing Organization made up of business leaders, electrical experts, engineers, scientists, and technicians. NEMA convenes a neutral forum for Members to discuss industry-wide concerns and objectives under a legal umbrella by trained NEMA Staff. - retrieved 2023/08/14 nema [dot] org/about
Circuit Breaker design and testing do not appear in the list of NEMA standards and publications.
But an example of a relevant circuit breaker standard comes from another private, standards producing organization (in the U.S. standards and codes are generally produced by private, not-for-profit companies and organizations rather than by government agencies) - UL - Underwriters Laboratories
I recommend that readers actually look at the Aronstein/Carrier circuit breaker failure rate studies that the engineers cited above have published in IEEE as their data is quite compelling.
Those engineers have no conflicts of interest, report without bias, and found dramatic differences among circuit breaker reliability among a range of U.S. manufacturers. Some breakers performed as expected: extremely well with very few or no failures to trip, while a few other breaker brands and/or models failed at an astonishing rate, as much as 60% of the time in some cases.
It's also my opinion but only an opinion that IEEE is a more independent professional association then a national association of manufacturers of electrical equipment or NEMA.On 2023-08-16 by InspectApedia Publisher - still some manufacturers that are marketing equipment that does not meet the standard testing requirements
Continuing:
This recent reference is of interest:
Daniel R. Doan, "IAS Open Journal Paper on Fire Safety Problems of Circuit Breakers [Electrical Safety]", IEEE Industry Applications Magazine, vol.29, no.5, pp.7-80, 2023. (access PDF copy at ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/10207915 ).
Readers can read Mr. Doan's paper at the link above or can download this IEEE copy directly
Doan, Daniel R., IAS OPEN JOURNAL PAPER ON FIRE SAFETY PROBLEMS OF CIRCUIT BREAKERS [PDF] in IEEE Industry Applications Magazine, vol. 29, no. 5, pp. 7-80, Sept.-Oct. 2023, doi: 10.1109/MIAS.2023.3283111.Abstract:
A recent technical paper in IEEE Open Journal of Industry Applications caught my attention. “Faulty Residential Circuit Breakers—A Persistent Fire Safety Problem,” by J. Aronstein [1] , is a very thorough study of fire hazards of residential-type circuit breakers. These circuit breakers are often used in office, shop, and other general buildings in our industrial facilities, so it is a topic of interest.
The author has previously presented and published papers building up to this topic, including “Molded Case Circuit Breakers—Some Holes in the Electrical Safety Net” [2] and “Temperature Sensitivity of Residential Molded Case Circuit Breakers” [3] in IEEE Access in 2018 and 2019, respectively, and “Estimating Fire Losses Associated With Circuit Breaker Malfunction” [4] at the 2011 IEEE Industry Applications Society (IAS) Electrical Safety Workshop.
This newest paper is worth reading; the author shows some excellent graphics of the response of a range of tested circuit breakers and makes a clear case that some manufacturers are using shortcuts to test their products.
Excerpts from Mr. Doan's comments:
It is interesting to note that there is no easy way for users to test their installed circuit breakers; users must rely on the manufacturer to do a thorough test of each breaker.
They must hope the breaker will work properly for many years to come, based on that initial test.
However, the author makes a good point that if manufacturers are using shortcuts to save time during the testing process, then the user is the one who could suffer from potentially faulty equipment in the future.
One example of a shortcut is that breakers are required to open at 135% of rated current after a prescribed period. Quoting from the paper,
“The experimental results provided in this article … clearly show that calibration testing at 200% or 300% of rated current cannot be successfully employed to assure that a breaker will trip as required at or below 135% of its rating.”
The implication is that some manufacturers may be testing at 200% or higher to have a quicker test for each breaker instead of the longer time required to test at 135%.
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Many manufacturers are making excellent equipment that meets all the requirements, but, as the author shows, there are still some manufacturers that are marketing equipment that does not meet the standard testing requirements.
All industrial, commercial, and residential users of this equipment should learn about this issue to ensure the use of quality equipment.
Thank you to Mr. Aronstein, for these efforts to bring this issue to the forefront and for a commitment to electrical safety.
the following is an excerpt from personal communication on this question, Aronstein to Friedman, 2023/08/16
Dr. Aronstein comments:
The underlying problem is the long-standing misconception that testing at high current (200% or 300% of rated) can reliably indicate whether a breaker will trip properly at 135%. Not true for all breaker designs!
Here's a statement from a Schneider field testing manual:
"Test each pole of the circuit breaker individually at 300% of rated current using a high-current, low-voltage ac power supply.
Record and compare the trip test values to those in Inverse-Time Overcurrent Trip Test. As long as the recorded trip times are below the maximum trip times, the circuit breaker is providing acceptable thermal protection."
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Regarding the portion of that statement
"As long as the recorded trip times are below the maximum trip times, the circuit breaker is providing acceptable thermal protection."
That's the misconception. (Similar for new breaker testing at the factory.)
[Paraphrasing from Aronstein's note to Friedman] ... this misconception and situation have existed for more than 60 years!
Follow-up comment from email exchange with Dr. Jess Aronstein - excerpting from private email 2022/10/31
Reader Comment: do you want my old FPE breakers for testing?
In large part to your published research I’m in the process of having the Federal Pioneer panel in my house replaced. Thank you for your efforts in bringing the danger associated with these panels to the public’s attention.
I’m located in Ottawa, Canada and our home was built in 2004.
I’m writing to you to find out if you have any interest in conducting any tests on the old panel once it has been removed to increase your sample size?
I’m also interested in your opinion on Siemens panels & breakers as that is what the electrician is proposing as they are made in Canada. I know that you aren’t a fan of the US Siemens breakers but it wasn’t clear to me if your testing had included Canadian Siemens panels.
Dr. Aronstein's reply - [Excerpt]
... discussing circuit breaker replacement for a Siemens electrical panel located in Canada ...
Siemens breakers have not fared well when tested for their basic function.
Previous tests of new Siemens breakers in 2017 showed a 50% failure to trip as required at or below 135% of rated current.
Samples purchased and tested in 2021 had a 28% failure rate. These Siemens breakers have both CSA and UL logos, for distribution both north and south of the border. The labeling indicates that they were assembled in Mexico.
(Recently manufactured Siemens arc-fault and ground-fault type breakers that I have seen are assembled in the Phillipines, but I have no test data on them.)
I would be surprised if the Siemens breakers that your electrician is proposing to install are made or assembled in Canada.
If possible, take a look at some samples to determine country of origin of the breakers.
The panel itself may be manufactured or assembled in Canada. I have no info on that.
Whatever [replacement electrical panel] brand you ultimately choose, insist on copper bus-bar. The clip-on contacts where the breaker connects to the bus-bar are failure-prone with aluminum bus-bar.
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[Note: if /when additional Siemens circuit breaker testing is completed we'll report those results here - Ed.]
On 2022-06-25 by Anonymous - hair dryer causes circuit breaker to trip off
I was vacuuming n my daughter was in the bathroom straightening her hair the breaker kept flipping off.
i turned everything off fans n air-conditioners eventually all the power stayed off in our bathroom and bedroom n part of our laundry room changed the outlet in the bathroom since it's the ones with the buttons and seems to control other power in other rooms didn't help tested the breaker by switching to another part of the house (dishwasher) it still powered it on any idea what it could be
On 2022-08-13 by InspectApedia-911 (mod) - possibly the circuit was overloaded
@Anonymous,
If the bathroom electrical circuit where the hair dryer was connected and running and the circuit into which you plugged and ran your vacuum cleaner, it's entirely possible that the circuit was simply over-loaded - in which case the breaker is operating as it should, protecting your building from a fire.
If the circuit tripped off because a GFCI device sensed a fault (such as a current leak or water), then a GFCI-protection device somewhere on that circuit (in the panel or at a wall receptacle) has tripped OFF.
In that case you need to find the GFCI receptacle that is electrically "upstream" from the bath or vacuum-cleaner receptacle and press its RESET button. (Or there may be a GFCI circuit breaker in the panel - also sporting a RESET button).
You may have to wait 30 seconds or so before the RESET button will work.
On 2021-09-30 by Ernie - What line of Square-D circuit breaker were tested?
What line of Square-D circuit breaker were tested? Specifically, were Homeline breakers included? I’m in the process of working with my electrician to specify a panel replacement for an old Zinsco panel. I’m trying to understand the diff differences between the Square-D Homeline and the significantly more expensive QO series.
On 2021-10-01 by inspectapedia.com.moderator - were Homeline breakers included in the Square-D circuit breaker testing?
@Ernie,
Actually I don't remember however those details are in the test reports which you can download as a PDF, it's referenced in this page and in this article series.
On 2021-04-07 by amarchdesign1 - worried that electrician used aluminum wiring in my house - lights are flickering
I just moved to a house that was renovated recently. My electrician wired the whole house with permit from the City and passed the inspection. However, he did not mention that he used the aluminum wiring. I believe this was done because it was less expensive to do the job. My house is constantly flickering, the lights especially when the AC goes on.
I sent a picture of my electrical panel to a friend of mine who happens to be an electrical engineer and he stated that the wiring appears to be aluminum and can cause a fire.
I am afraid to live in this house and I need to know what can be done?
On 2021-04-07 by danjoefriedman (mod) - flickering lights may indicate dangerous situation but not solid conductor aluminum branch circuit wiring
@amarchdesign1,
There is no reasonable chance that your electrician wired your whole house with solid conductor aluminum branch circuit wiring (lights, receptacles, etc.) - that wire is not sold in North America for house-wiring.
The electrician might have used multi-strand aluminum electrical wire for a few high-amp circuits such as an electric clothes dryer or range. That's permitted provided the connections were made properly using an antioxidant paste, abrasion, and proper connectors approved for use with aluminum wire.
So if your lights are flickering there should be another cause. Still, that situation can be dangerous - you need an on-site licensed electrician.
See FLICKERING LIGHT DIAGNOSIS
Also, to rule out the chance that someone claimed to have re-wired a home that previously had aluminum wiring, and that the re-wiring was incomplete or improper, be sure to read
ALUMINUM WIRING HAZARDS & REPAIRS - overheating or corroded connections can cause flickering lights
In that article you'll see links to articles on how to identify aluminum electrical wire and on what repairs are safe and proper.
It was a good QO breaker. It wasn't warped or cooked or anything, just a bit blackened at the contact points inside. After testing today by letting the water heater heat from tap cold, the new breaker doesn't seem meaningfully cooler, which makes me feel like it wasn't too bad.
I *did* crack the tip of a flat head bit when torquing the new breaker lug down to 45 inch pounds or so. The square drive tend to round out, and the fancy quadrex bits I got on McMaster-Carr proved useless. I'll be trying "ecx* bits next, but seriously, when will manufacturers get serious and just use torx drive screws?…
Really though, when will manufacturers, or UL for that matter, start using torx screw drives for these things? It would be a million times better. And might be a good way to subconsciously convince people to use torque screwdrivers. - Alexander G. Riccio by private email 29 June 2023
Other comments by Mr. Riccio are at
Moderator reply:
Thank you for those at a details. Yes there's a long history of manufacturers struggling with cost and profit trade-offs and sometimes it's safety that suffers. Are you interested in writing up or providing raw text and images to describe your circuit breaker investigation and results? That's be interesting information that our ee type readers would appreciate.
Reader follow-up:
I really should write it all up once I get to the bottom of things! ... I don't know when, but you're free to use anything I provided in the meantime!
On 2019-09-01 by Alan - does not agree with circuit breaker research
The above article on residential grade circuit breakers is a bit misleading. All breakers have a trip curve published by the mfg. Reading the curve is a bit daunting until you learn what they are telling you.
A trip requires current thru time to cause an action. A 25 amp load on a 20 amp breaker would take MINUTES to trip. More current less time. When we tested a large breaker we used 3x, 6x and 10x for current settings. (large breaker = over 100 amp frame). Only grossly overloaded/faulted circuits cause an immediate trip.
Or in other words Long Time, Short Time, and Instantaneous, only one of these values is available on a residential breaker, Long Time. Residential breakers are sold at a loss because that is how the industry goes to market. They make it up on the larger breakers for uses other than residential.
I
do not like the term "short circuit" as faults follow ALL PATHS not just the shortest one.
Image chosen is not mine it was found with a google search http://www.nuclearelectricalengineer.com/three-fault-regions-time-current-plot/ all credit goes to the original poster.
On 2019-09-01 - by (mod) - reading the circuit breaker trip curve
Thank you Alan. I agree that there is more to say on this. The two Engineers whose work is described and reported in these articles are of course experts in the field as well. The testing that we report generally is following the specifications of UL 486 and similar standards in order for the findings to be able to be compared with other products and tests. I agree that your additional tests are quite interesting in the results are important. If there's published work from your area that we could include here would be glad to do so.
Just as a point of clarity, the significance of the article on this page and the supporting test results is that a significant percentage of circuit breakers from some manufacturers have an extremely high failure rate.
That will come as a surprise to many consumers and others who assume that if a circuit breaker is available in the electrical supply market it is reliable.
In my opinion as well as those in nationally-recognized independent experts, those failing circuit breakers are unsafe.
It seems likely that the underlying problem is that there's no independent agency serving as the electrical testing police.
Companies do their own testing and certify their products as meeting standards.
In some cases those tests have proven credible and in others as shown here there's a significant question raised.
On 2019-04-27 by Dawn - our house lights are flickering when its windy
Our lights flickered a couple times and then we loss power to two sections of our house. There is a lot of wind tonight.
On 2019-04-27 1 by (mod) - flickering lights in high wind
Wind could disturb a loose or poor service entry wire connection causing partial loss of power - e.g. on one side of the panel or half of your electrical circuits.
Watch out: if you see disturbed overhead service entry wires (between the utility power lines in the street and your house) OR in the street itself that is a VERY DANGEROUS condition risking death by electrocution of someone touches those downed electrical wires or even if they go near them or touch something the wires touch.
In that case stay away and call your electric utility and emergency services for help.
On 2017-11-19 by Ray Kopylciw - could a bad breaker be causing our microwave to shut down
We have a oven microwave combo unit with intermittent power shut down and right after power comes back showing on LED board that needs to be time and date reset. Occasional heat in oven not getting to what it registers by 50 or so degrees. Could the breaker be causing these short fails.
On 2017-11-19 by (mod)
Yes the problem could be a bad circuit breaker but I'd be looking first for a loose electrical connection, starting at the electrical recptacle where the microwave is connected.
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