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== 14-day hold period (for Meta <s>and English Wikipedia)</s> == |
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Currently, we put usurpation requests on hold for 30 days after notifying the target user. However, on English Wikipedia, we only have a 7-day hold period. Do you think we should adopt the same 7-day hold here on Meta? I feel that a week is enough time for target users to respond. From my experience, only one user has opposed a usurpation, and that was within a week of the notification, so I believe a 7-day hold would work just fine. Should I open an RfC to gain consensus and move forward with this? – [[User:DreamRimmer|<b style="color:black; font-family: Tahoma">DreamRimmer</b>]] ('''[[User talk:DreamRimmer|talk]]''') 18:20, 1 October 2024 (UTC) |
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:My {{S}}. 7 days is a good standard period. Let's get it done. :) <small><sub><span style="color:SteelBlue;">signed, </span></sub></small>[[User:Aafi|<span style="font-family:sans-serif; color:#4682B4; text-shadow:.2em .2em .4em #AfAfB1;">'''Aafi'''</span>]] [[User talk:Aafi|<sup> '' (talk)''</sup>]] 19:02, 1 October 2024 (UTC) |
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:Sounds sensible, though I wonder if this will encourage more "frivolous" requests. [[User:Leaderboard|Leaderboard]] ([[User talk:Leaderboard|talk]]) 19:04, 1 October 2024 (UTC) |
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::@[[User:Aafi|Aafi]], @[[User:Leaderboard|Leaderboard]]: Should we go ahead and implement the 7-day hold period, or do we need to start an RfC first? We didn’t need an RfC for this on English Wikipedia. – [[User:DreamRimmer|<b style="color:black; font-family: Tahoma">DreamRimmer</b>]] ('''[[User talk:DreamRimmer|talk]]''') 10:18, 3 October 2024 (UTC) |
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:::Pinging regular renamers/stews @[[User:Xaosflux|Xaosflux]], @[[User:EPIC|EPIC]], @[[User:MdsShakil|MdsShakil]], @[[User:AramilFeraxa|AramilFeraxa]], @[[User:TenWhile6|TenWhile6]] and @[[User:Neriah|Neriah]] – [[User:DreamRimmer|<b style="color:black; font-family: Tahoma">DreamRimmer</b>]] ('''[[User talk:DreamRimmer|talk]]''') 10:22, 3 October 2024 (UTC) |
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::::I tend to be neutral regarding this idea. Both 7d and 30d are fine for me. [[User:TenWhile6|TenWhile6]] 11:37, 3 October 2024 (UTC) |
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::::If on enwiki it works well, I can {{support}} this proposal. If someone is inactive and does not use the account then 7 or 30 days makes no difference. [[User:AramilFeraxa|<strong><span style="color:sienna; font-weight:bold">AramilFeraxa</span></strong>]] ([[User talk:AramilFeraxa|<span style="color:#BB0FFF"><small>Talk</small></span>]]) 12:44, 3 October 2024 (UTC) |
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:{{weak support}}--'''[[User:A09|<span style="color:#004d99">A09</span>]]'''<nowiki>|</nowiki>[[User talk:A09|<span style="color:#004d99">(pogovor)</span>]] 15:44, 3 October 2024 (UTC) |
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* 7-day waiting period seems a little early to me, in the global context; maybe we can collect community opinions about it. —[[User:MdsShakil|MdsShakil]] ([[User talk:MdsShakil|talk]]) 16:45, 3 October 2024 (UTC) |
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*Maybe 14 days, and renaming hasn't been a local issue in a very long time - local projects shouldn't have special usurp processes. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 19:36, 3 October 2024 (UTC) |
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*{{oppose}} 7 days is far too short considering renames are global. 30 days appears to be the ideal length, giving enough time for users across any project to respond while also making it harder to make frivolous usurpation requests. The usurpation process on enwiki seems to have been grandfathered in from when renames were still local processes done by bureaucrats; presently, it only accepts requests from accounts whose home wikis are enwiki, presumably to avoid the issues of usurping someone's username from a smaller language wiki who may not log in regularly after giving them a scant 7 days to respond. I have no problem with closing down that page and redirecting all usurpation requests to Meta (considering we frequently get confused requests from confused people). —[[User:K6ka|'''<span style="color:#0040FF">k6ka</span>''']] <span title="Canadian!" style="color:red">🍁</span> ([[User talk:K6ka|<span style="color:#0080FF">Talk</span>]] · [[Special:Contributions/K6ka|<span style="color:#0B4C5F">Contributions</span>]]) 12:16, 4 October 2024 (UTC) |
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* I would support 14 days, but I think longer than 7 days makes sense. Also would support enwiki aligning their process with the global standard as renaming is global now. – [[User:Ajraddatz|Ajraddatz]] ([[User Talk:Ajraddatz|talk]]) 15:49, 4 October 2024 (UTC) |
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*:I think I support this, too – 14 days seems just right given that renaming is global, but I've got no issues with 7. --[[User:SHB2000|SHB2000]] <small>([[User talk:SHB2000#top|t]] • [[Special:Contributions/SHB2000|c]])</small> 03:46, 7 November 2024 (UTC) |
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*:Since the 7-day period did not meet with full approval, I can also support 14 days - per SHB2000. [[User:AramilFeraxa|<strong><span style="color:sienna; font-weight:bold">AramilFeraxa</span></strong>]] ([[User talk:AramilFeraxa|<span style="color:#BB0FFF"><small>Talk</small></span>]]) 13:42, 7 November 2024 (UTC) |
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* Oppose for 7 days as on enwiki only local account related usurpation is handled while on metawiki crosswiki request are handled. While users on enwiki might me little more active so 7 days makes more sense but on samll wikis users are not typically that active so people might entirely miss the 7 days notifications. ‐‐[[User:1997kB|1997kB]] ([[User_talk:1997kB|talk]]) 13:41, 5 October 2024 (UTC) |
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* '''Support''' [[User:Pppery|* Pppery *]] [[User talk:Pppery|<sub style="color:#800000">it has begun</sub>]] 00:21, 7 October 2024 (UTC) |
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* '''Weak Support''' 7 days, however 14 days would gain my support, as there's no point waiting a month for completely inactive users who edited decades ago, but I do think some sort of global standard needs adopting, because every project having a different policy is confusing and means people might game the system by requesting on a different wiki. [[User:Zippybonzo|Zippybonzo]] ([[User talk:Zippybonzo|talk]]) 11:26, 14 October 2024 (UTC) |
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* I would also say, that 7 days seems a little short in the global context. But I could agree to something like 14 days, as also suggest above. --[[User:Zabe|Zabe]] ([[User talk:Zabe|talk]]) 13:44, 7 November 2024 (UTC) |
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*{{ss}} for seven days, {{s}} fourteen days. It works at enwiki, and it can work globally, too. [[User:HouseBlaster|HouseBlaster]] ([[User talk:HouseBlaster|talk]]) 02:27, 9 November 2024 (UTC) |
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<small>Despite a request on RfH no colleague took action here, thats why I am doing it now. I would call myself unbiased here, because I am neutral regarding this idea, as stated above.</small> |
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This discussion was open for 40 days. Consensus for a waiting period of 7d has not been reached. |
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Not everyone left a comment regarding the compromise to wait 14d. @[[User:DreamRimmer|DreamRimmer]], I‘d suggest to start a new discussion regarding a 14d-period if you still want to change the current system. Best regards, --[[User:TenWhile6|TenWhile6]] 16:27, 10 November 2024 (UTC) |
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== 14-day hold period (for Meta <s>and English Wikipedia)</s> == |
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In line with the [[Talk:Steward requests/Username changes#7-day hold period|previous discussion]] on a 7-day hold period, I am proposing a 14-day hold period for usurpation requests, as suggested by the closer of that discussion. Please add your support, opposition, or comments below. After a two-week discussion period, we will proceed based on the consensus. – [[User:DreamRimmer|<span style="color:black">'''DreamRimmer'''</span>]] <small>([[User talk:DreamRimmer|'''talk''']])</small> 17:43, 10 November 2024 (UTC) |
In line with the [[Talk:Steward requests/Username changes#7-day hold period|previous discussion]] on a 7-day hold period, I am proposing a 14-day hold period for usurpation requests, as suggested by the closer of that discussion. Please add your support, opposition, or comments below. After a two-week discussion period, we will proceed based on the consensus. – [[User:DreamRimmer|<span style="color:black">'''DreamRimmer'''</span>]] <small>([[User talk:DreamRimmer|'''talk''']])</small> 17:43, 10 November 2024 (UTC) |
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14-day hold period (for Meta and English Wikipedia)
In line with the previous discussion on a 7-day hold period, I am proposing a 14-day hold period for usurpation requests, as suggested by the closer of that discussion. Please add your support, opposition, or comments below. After a two-week discussion period, we will proceed based on the consensus. – DreamRimmer (talk) 17:43, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
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Support – DreamRimmer (talk) 17:43, 10 November 2024 (UTC)- Support as above. The current period is too huge. signed, Aafi (talk) 17:48, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- However, I have a question for DR, is it fine to discussion en-wiki waiting period here? Shouldn't this happen on en-wiki? signed, Aafi (talk) 17:49, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- I believe that the renamers who handle rename requests on English Wikipedia are also active here on Meta, as it serves as a central platform for global renaming and related discussions. I have notified them about this discussion. – DreamRimmer (talk) 18:09, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- I have changed the proposal to remove the English Wikipedia part. – DreamRimmer (talk) 18:58, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- I believe that the renamers who handle rename requests on English Wikipedia are also active here on Meta, as it serves as a central platform for global renaming and related discussions. I have notified them about this discussion. – DreamRimmer (talk) 18:09, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- However, I have a question for DR, is it fine to discussion en-wiki waiting period here? Shouldn't this happen on en-wiki? signed, Aafi (talk) 17:49, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- Support as above. AramilFeraxa (Talk) 18:12, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- Fine with reducing Meta's period to 14 days, but there's no need to make enwiki's rule even longer in the name of consistency. * Pppery * it has begun 18:22, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- Support per what I said in the previous request. --SHB2000 (t • c) 12:12, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- Support 14 days is a reasonable duration. I'd rather close down enwiki's usurpation request page and redirect everyone to Meta, but that's a discussion that would need to be held on enwiki, not here. —k6ka 🍁 (Talk · Contributions) 14:37, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- Support albeit enwiki shouldn't have it's own policy in my mind. This process should be done centrally on Meta, not with each project having it's own process, because it's complicated and unnecessary. Zippybonzo (talk) 09:05, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
- Support -J. Ansari Talk 12:28, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
- Support per my comment above. HouseBlaster (talk) 22:19, 12 November 2024 (UTC)