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The associated page is used by the Mediawiki SpamBlacklist extension, and lists strings of text that may not be used in URLs in any page in Wikimedia Foundation projects (as well as many external wikis). Any meta administrator can edit the spam blacklist. There is also a more aggressive way to block spamming through direct use of $wgSpamRegex. Only developers can make changes to $wgSpamRegex, and its use is to be avoided whenever possible.

For more information on what the spam blacklist is for, and the processes used here, please see Spam blacklist/About.

Please post comments to the appropriate section below: Proposed additions, Proposed removals, or Troubleshooting and problems, read the messageboxes at the top of each section for an explanation. Also, please check back some time after submitting, there could be questions regarding your request. Per-project whitelists are discussed at MediaWiki talk:Spam-whitelist. In addition to that, please sign your posts with ~~~~ after your comment. Other discussions related to this last, but that are not a problem with a particular link please see, Spam blacklist policy discussion.

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Spam that is only affecting a single project should go to that project's local blacklist, if available: ENWP

Proposed additions

This section is for proposing that a website be blacklisted; add new entries at the bottom of the section, using the basic URL so that there is no link (google.ca, not http://www.google.ca). Provide links demonstrating widespread spamming by multiple users. Completed requests will be marked as done or denied and archived.

Dyrszka spam

Blacklisting request
  • bigbmw.com
  • bigonlinegames.com
  • Some bizhat.com subdomains (bizhat.com itself is a large hosting service not owned by the spammer):
  • christmas.bizhat.com
  • europe.bizhat.com
  • keywords.bizhat.com
  • mmorpg.bizhat.com
  • onlinegames.bizhat.com
  • dating-tip.org
  • dealertruck.net
  • fastestcar.net
  • flightlondon.net
  • hosting15.com
  • orpgames.com
  • topcelebrityphoto.com
  • tophybridcar.net
  • bbsggames.net
  • freeogames.com
  • webhostingspotter.com
Supporting data

Spam domains:





  • bizhat.com subdomains:


























Related domains:







Google Adsense ID: 2931316834739099

Cross-wiki spam
Possible open proxy or zombie PC -- Korean IP used by a Polish spammer[1]
Possible open proxy or zombie PC [3]

--A. B. (talk) 17:43, 14 January 2008 (UTC)Reply

All links in article space have been removed. --A. B. (talk) 04:22, 15 January 2008 (UTC)Reply
Done, Thanks!--Nick1915 - all you want 11:43, 15 January 2008 (UTC)Reply

eurobiler.dk

[4] wikiwide spam, I already added \beurobiler\.dk\b to stop him, (I was watching that on irc) Please feel free to modify or remove it is not correct, thanks a lot, --birdy geimfyglið (:> )=| 02:22, 15 January 2008 (UTC)Reply

For the record, 2 more IPs:
--A. B. (talk) 03:55, 15 January 2008 (UTC)Reply
Related domains for the record:












--A. B. (talk) 04:11, 15 January 2008 (UTC)Reply
All links in article space have either been removed or else they're part of spam articles that have been tagged for deletion. --A. B. (talk) 04:23, 15 January 2008 (UTC)Reply
Thanks a lot for digging, A. B., --birdy geimfyglið (:> )=| 10:44, 15 January 2008 (UTC)Reply

Domains locally blacklisted on more than one project

I did an analysis of the various local blacklists to see what domains, if any, had been blacklisted on more than one project.

Chinese bot-like spam

Request
  • atchina.com.cn
  • caws.cn
  • celsnet.cn
  • chongshang.com.cn
  • cthb.com.cn
  • dm-cqsf.cn
  • dm-lietou.cn
  • eachost.com
  • hauyut.com
  • hollycrm.com
  • hollycrm.com
  • mendean.net
  • mqblog.cn
  • nanqu-dental.com
  • sino-biyan.cn
  • stacent.com.cn
  • timeyiqi.com.cn
Domains already locally blacklisted on more than one project
  • cs.wikipedia: atchina.com.cn
  • ia.wikipedia: atchina.com.cn
  • id.wikipedia: atchina.com.cn
  • cs.wikipedia: caws.cn
  • ia.wikipedia: caws.cn
  • id.wikipedia: caws.cn
  • cs.wikipedia: cthb.com.cn
  • de.wikipedia: cthb.com.cn
  • cs.wikipedia: dm-cqsf.cn
  • ia.wikipedia: dm-cqsf.cn
  • cs.wikipedia: mqblog.cn
  • ia.wikipedia: mqblog.cn
  • cs.wikipedia: sino-biyan.cn
  • ia.wikipedia: sino-biyan.cn
  • id.wikipedia: sino-biyan.cn
  • cs.wikipedia: stacent.com.cn
  • id.wikipedia: stacent.com.cn
  • cs.wikipedia: timeyiqi.com.cn
  • de.wikipedia: timeyiqi.com.cn
  • ia.wikipedia: timeyiqi.com.cn
Sample edit histories
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--A. B. (talk) 03:46, 16 January 2008 (UTC)Reply

Agreed - desirable to be listed at a meta level. Thanks & Done --Herby talk thyme 12:57, 16 January 2008 (UTC)Reply

Great Earth Travel Ltd spam

Domains locally blacklisted on more than one project
  • de.wikipedia: cnvacation.com
  • ia.wikipedia: cnvacation.com
  • pl.wikipedia: not blacklisted but monitored at pl:Wikipedie:URL blacklist
Also blacklisted on de.wikipedia only at the same time; I'm not sure how closely they're related to cnvacation.com
  • wow-powerleveling-wow.com
  • powerlevelingweb.com
  • chinayuntong.cn
  • top-seo.cn
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--A. B. (talk) 03:46, 16 January 2008 (UTC)Reply

I've seen the powerleveling ones in a few places (here I think & en books as well - I thought I'd BL'd them on books but a quick glance says "no"). I think they look blacklistable - other views? --Herby talk thyme 13:18, 16 January 2008 (UTC)Reply
Cross-wiki or it wouldn't be on 2 blacklists and monitored on another. If you look at the sites, there's nothing of value that I see. --A. B. (talk) 14:46, 16 January 2008 (UTC)Reply

Agreed - nothing of value to me too - Done & thanks --Herby talk thyme 16:43, 16 January 2008 (UTC)Reply

gportal.hu

Domains locally blacklisted on more than one project
  • el.wikipedia: gportal.hu
  • hsb.wikipedia: gportal.hu
  • ia.wikipedia: gportal.hu
  • pt.wikipedia: gportal.hu
Previous discussions
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I am listing this here strictly for completeness as another domain blacklisted on multiple projects; I do not recommend blacklisting at Meta. --A. B. (talk) 03:46, 16 January 2008 (UTC)Reply

Troublesome for sure however for now I agree. To be reviewed no doubt --Herby talk thyme 13:04, 16 January 2008 (UTC)Reply

hardwax.net

Domains locally blacklisted on more than one project
  • de.wikipedia: hardwax.net
  • en.wikipedia: hardwax.net
en.wikipedia spammer
Supporting details


--A. B. (talk) 03:46, 16 January 2008 (UTC)Reply

I'm sure I've viewed that site before. Anyway - I do not see it as being of encyclopaedic value so thanks & Done --Herby talk thyme 13:21, 16 January 2008 (UTC)Reply

metapedia

Domains locally blacklisted on more than one project
  • de.wikipedia: metapedia.de
  • fr.wikipedia: metapedia.org
Comments
Supporting details




--A. B. (talk) 03:46, 16 January 2008 (UTC)Reply

For me this looks like a "political" listing. Comes under the heading of "stuff I avoid"! However I can see valid reasons for listing this. Anyone else? --Herby talk thyme 13:02, 16 January 2008 (UTC)Reply
Local discussions:
My French is weak and my German non-existent -- can someone take a look at these?
Thanks, --A. B. (talk) 15:34, 16 January 2008 (UTC)Reply
OK, my French and German are weak but I can do Simple English:
Then there's this article, whose only contributor is [sh:Wikislav
metapedia.org is also blacklisted on oc.wikipedia.[10] No explanation given.
--A. B. (talk) 16:13, 16 January 2008 (UTC)Reply
Sorry for late response: German: they are saying that it is a spamlink that is not in accordance with their link-rule w:de:Wikipedia:Weblinks, they think that blocking the user or article does not help and give a link to reported incidents [11]. Best regards, --birdy geimfyglið (:> )=| 16:27, 16 January 2008 (UTC)Reply
Thanks, Spacebirdy!
Here's a Swedish article deletion discussion:
--A. B. (talk) 16:37, 16 January 2008 (UTC)Reply
The article was deleted from sv.wikipedia because they found Metapedia to not be notable. The article has been deleted four times there. --Jorunn 23:18, 16 January 2008 (UTC)Reply

Looks like there was a metapedia spam-vandal on de.wikipedia:

--A. B. (talk) 23:59, 16 January 2008 (UTC)Reply

So views on blacklisting this here are....? Thanks --Herby talk thyme 16:42, 19 January 2008 (UTC)Reply
Leaving aside the politics, it's a plain old spam problem on en, sv and de wikipedias. Please blacklist. --A. B. (talk) 00:26, 20 January 2008 (UTC)Reply

nedvarticles.narod.ru

Request
  • hosting-pi.narod.ru
  • nedvarticles.narod.ru
  • stroit-info.narod.ru
  • e-zeus.narod.ru
  • cmsarticles.awardspace.com
  • uarticles.blogspot.com
  • allhostinginfo.com
  • nedvarticles.narod.ru
  • kompinfo.com
  • cmsarticles.narod.ru
Domains locally blacklisted on more than one project
  • en.wikipedia: nedvarticles.narod.ru
  • pt.wikipedia: nedvarticles.narod.ru
Other domains spammed on one or more wikipedias
  • hosting-pi.narod.ru
  • nedvarticles.narod.ru
  • stroit-info.narod.ru
  • e-zeus.narod.ru
  • cmsarticles.awardspace.com
  • uarticles.blogspot.com
  • allhostinginfo.com
  • kompinfo.com
  • cmsarticles.narod.ru
Sample edit histories
  1. az:Special:Contributions/193.41.62.138
  2. ca:Special:Contributions/193.41.62.138
  3. ca:Special:Contributions/92.113.22.24
  4. cs:Special:Contributions/92.113.12.87
  5. cs:Special:Contributions/92.113.22.206
  6. cs:Special:Contributions/92.113.22.24
  7. cs:Special:Contributions/92.113.3.12
  8. da:Special:Contributions/92.113.22.24
  9. da:Special:Contributions/92.113.46.41
  10. de:Special:Contributions/193.41.62.138
  11. de:Special:Contributions/92.113.12.87
  12. de:Special:Contributions/92.113.22.24
  13. de:Special:Contributions/92.113.8.170
  14. en:Special:Contributions/193.41.62.138
  15. en:Special:Contributions/212.58.180.94
  16. en:Special:Contributions/212.58.183.43
  17. en:Special:Contributions/82.207.22.2
  18. en:Special:Contributions/91.124.247.90
  19. en:Special:Contributions/92.113.12.87
  20. en:Special:Contributions/92.113.13.154
  21. en:Special:Contributions/92.113.22.24
  22. en:Special:Contributions/92.113.3.12
  23. en:Special:Contributions/92.113.46.41
  24. en:Special:Contributions/92.113.8.170
  25. en:Special:Contributions/Sergeant85
  26. es:Special:Contributions/193.41.62.138
  27. es:Special:Contributions/92.113.22.24
  28. es:Special:Contributions/92.113.46.41
  29. fi:Special:Contributions/92.113.22.24
  30. fr:Special:Contributions/193.41.62.138
  31. fr:Special:Contributions/92.113.12.87
  32. fr:Special:Contributions/92.113.22.206
  33. fr:Special:Contributions/92.113.22.24
  34. fr:Special:Contributions/92.113.46.41
  35. it:Special:Contributions/92.113.22.24
  36. it:Special:Contributions/92.113.8.170
  37. lt:Special:Contributions/92.113.3.12
  38. ms:Special:Contributions/92.113.3.12
  39. nl:Special:Contributions/92.113.12.87
  40. nl:Special:Contributions/92.113.22.24
  41. nl:Special:Contributions/92.113.46.41
  42. no:Special:Contributions/92.113.12.87
  43. pl:Special:Contributions/193.41.62.138
  44. pl:Special:Contributions/92.113.12.87
  45. pl:Special:Contributions/92.113.22.206
  46. pl:Special:Contributions/92.113.22.24
  47. pl:Special:Contributions/92.113.8.170
  48. pt:Special:Contributions/92.113.22.24
  49. ro:Special:Contributions/193.41.62.138
  50. ro:Special:Contributions/92.113.22.24
  51. ru:Special:Contributions/193.41.62.138
  52. ru:Special:Contributions/92.113.22.206
  53. simple:Special:Contributions/92.113.22.24
  54. simple:Special:Contributions/92.113.46.41
  55. sl:Special:Contributions/92.113.3.12
  56. sv:Special:Contributions/92.113.22.24
  57. sv:Special:Contributions/92.113.3.12
  58. tr:Special:Contributions/92.113.12.87
  59. tr:Special:Contributions/92.113.22.24
  60. tr:Special:Contributions/92.113.8.170
  61. uk:Special:Contributions/193.41.62.138
  62. uk:Special:Contributions/92.113.22.206
  63. vi:Special:Contributions/92.113.3.12
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Google Adsense ID: 1715703222720309

Reference

en:Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Spam/2007 Archive Nov 1#Long term adsense Spammer --A. B. (talk) 03:46, 16 January 2008 (UTC)Reply

Agreed, distinctly cross wiki, of no value as far as I can see. Thanks & Done --Herby talk thyme 13:00, 16 January 2008 (UTC)Reply

statisticum.org

Domains locally blacklisted on more than one project
  • en.wikipedia: statisticum.org
  • pt.wikipedia: statisticum.org
en.wikipedia spammers (with x-wiki edit history links)
Also spammed
  • sbmkpm.com
Supporting details




--A. B. (talk) 03:46, 16 January 2008 (UTC)Reply


JMC Entertainment spam

Spam domains
  • mesothelioma-fyi.blogspot.com
  • mygeneralhospital.com
  • myabcsoaps.com
  • justin-timberlake-news.blogspot.com
  • my-whitney-houston.blogspot.com
  • terminator-chronicles.blogspot.com
  • 2008-american-idol.blogspot.com
Supporting data














Google Adsense: 1522350484950997

Accounts
Reference

--A. B. (talk) 20:04, 16 January 2008 (UTC)Reply

Done Nakon 21:08, 16 January 2008 (UTC)Reply

hungarybudapestguide.com + touristguide.gyuli.com

Please consider blacklisting:

hungarybudapestguide.com
touristguide.gyuli.com

Cross wiki spam. First touristguide.gyuli.com was added cross wiki, then it was replaced by hungarybudapestguide.com. touristguide.gyuli.com now redirects to hungarybudapestguide.com. hungarybudapestguide.com seems to have been created 2008-01-06, already there is 69 mainspace links in the 57 largest Wikipedias.

Google Adsense: 6931071739403567







--Jorunn 10:05, 17 January 2008 (UTC)Reply

Agreed & Done thanks Jorunn --Herby talk thyme 17:24, 17 January 2008 (UTC)Reply
Thank you.
For the record, these IP's have added the links too:
--Jorunn 01:35, 18 January 2008 (UTC)Reply
One more: 81.182.154.245 --Jorunn 00:22, 19 January 2008 (UTC)Reply

marvaoguide.com

Cross wiki spam. Coibot report: en:Wikipedia:WikiProject_Spam/LinkReports/marvaoguide.com

Google adsense ID: 1872235783335290




Users who's been adding the link:

--Jorunn 01:35, 18 January 2008 (UTC)Reply

Done--Nick1915 - all you want 15:00, 18 January 2008 (UTC)Reply

ipoconsult.info

See also WikiProject_Spam case

Cross Wiki spamming.

Thanks, --Hu12 14:46, 18 January 2008 (UTC)Reply

Agreed, cross wiki Done thanks --Herby talk thyme 08:41, 19 January 2008 (UTC)Reply

how-to-tie-a-tie-video.com

See also WikiProject_Spam case

Cross Wiki spamming.

Thanks,--Hu12 14:55, 18 January 2008 (UTC)Reply

Used to irritate me on en wb! Done --Herby talk thyme 08:41, 19 January 2008 (UTC)Reply

pugliarooms.com

Cross wiki.




IP's/users adding the link:

bg.w, de.w, en.w, eo.w, fr.w, hu.w, id.w, nl.w, nn.w, pl.w, pt.w, simple.w, sr.w, tr.w, ur.w
cs.w, de.w, et.w, io.w, lt.w, nn.w, ro.w, sr.w, sv.w
es.w

--Jorunn 16:17, 20 January 2008 (UTC)Reply

Proposed removals

This section is for proposing that a website be unlisted; please add new entries at the bottom of the section. Remember to provide the specific URL blacklisted, links to the articles they are used in or useful to, and arguments in favour of unlisting. Completed requests will be marked as done or denied and archived. See also /recurring requests for repeatedly proposed (and refused) removals. The addition or removal of a link is not a vote, please do not bold the first words in statements.

studentville.it

This is the most visited 100% free web site for italian students. It offers good free contenents in latin, literature, philosopy, math, etc. Some links according to me could be useful for wiki users.

Many links were added last year by a competitors with the aim to ban studentville.it from wikipedia.

Typically, we do not remove domains from the spam blacklist in response to site-owners' requests. Instead, we de-blacklist sites when trusted, high-volume editors request the use of blacklisted links because of their encyclopedic value in support of our encyclopedia pages. If such an editor asks to use your links, I'm sure the request will be carefully considered and your links may well be removed.
This blacklist is used by more than just our 700+ Wikimedia Foundation wikis (Wikipedias, Wiktionaries, etc.). All 3000+ Wikia wikis plus a substantial percentage of the 25,000+ unrelated wikis that run on our MediaWiki software have chosen to incorporate this blacklist in their own spam filtering. Each wiki has a local "whitelist" which overrides the global blacklist for that project only. Some of these non-Wikimedia sites may be interested in your links; by all means feel free to request local whitelisting on those.
Italian Wikipedia whitelist requests can be made at it:MediaWiki talk:Spam-whitelist.
Unlike Wikipedia, DMOZ is a web directory specifically designed to categorize and list all Internet sites; if you've not already gotten your sites listed there, I encourage you to do so -- it's a more appropriate venue for your links than our wikis. Their web address: http://www.dmoz.org/.
--A. B. (talk) 18:44, 20 January 2008 (UTC)Reply

s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/

The following discussion is closed.

This site was originally blacklisted in May 2007 because a user not affiliated with the site was spamming Wikipedia with links to it in order to bypass an already existing blacklist on their own wiki. In the proposal for the ban it was remarked that the site "needed some time off". I ask that it be removed from the blacklist. Ask Greg is the website through which Greg Weisman, creator, writer, and producer of several animated television shows, including the upcoming en:The Spectacular Spider-Man (TV series) and en:Gargoyles (TV series) as well as the en:Gargoyles (SLG comic) currently in production, discusses these shows and other areas of his expertise. This site is the most cited reference for all things relating to the en:Gargoyles (TV series) and en:Gargoyles (SLG comic). Since this site was blacklisted several pages relating to the show including the show's main page have been marked as not citing references or sources. The reason for this is that the site's been blacklisted. Were it not blacklisted the references for many of the facts presented in these articles could once again be cited. Nobody affiliated with Ask Greg was responsible for the spamming of the website address to Wikipedia early last year, but rather the site has become victim to an overzealous fan trying to promote his own, separate Gargoyles-related website.

If the ban were to remain in place I would begin to worry that all it takes to remove a website from Wikipedia is to spam links to it a few times across several Wikipedia articles. I can understand a temporary blacklist to discourage further abuse of these links, but I think that time has long past and this site should be removed from the blacklist. Thanks. The preceding unsigned comment was added by 207.206.236.203 (talk • contribs) 21:51, 7 Jan 2008 (UTC)

Background
  1. Talk:Spam blacklist/Archives/2007/04/Additions: Done#gargoyles.dracandros.com
    • First, gargoyles.dracandros.com was blacklisted
      1. Spam and "rip-off" allegations on a competing Wikia project
    1. Second, spam on en.wikipedia
  2. Talk:Spam blacklist/Archives/2007/04/Additions: Done#www.s8.org/gargoyles
    • Now this second domain was blacklisted; it was being spammed a means of bypassing gargoyles.dracandros.com's blacklist
      GT75gs previously received multiple warnings which he erased.[15]
  3. Talk:Spam blacklist/Archives/2007/05/Removals: Not Done#gargoyles.dracandros.com
    • Long removal discussion
  4. Talk:Spam blacklist/Archives/2007/07#s8.org/gargoyles
    • Another long removal discussion


Whether or not this site should be blacklisted, I don't think it should be blacklisted here; if it is blacklisted, it should be done locally at en.wikipedia. That frees its links to be used on other wikis. The one Wikia can always locally blacklist there as well. --A. B. (talk) 17:21, 17 January 2008 (UTC)Reply

Thanks - trouble yes but not meta trouble. Done and thanks --Herby talk thyme 17:42, 17 January 2008 (UTC)Reply

ourworld.cs.com

This website is simply a web host. It doesn't seem to be harmful. Specifically, I want to use ourworld.cs.com/eblibrarian/, as it contains useful information for the en:Pan American Games. The article I'm working on is en:1987 Pan American Games, and ourworld.cs.com/eblibrarian/1987Summary.html seems to be one of the best web sources availiable. en:User:Reywas92

I suggest seeking whitelisting for the specific pages you want on en wp (w:MediaWiki talk:Spam-whitelist) thanks --Herby talk thyme 08:28, 14 January 2008 (UTC)Reply
The original blacklisting request spread a very, very wide net hitting several major hosting services and they should probably be replaced with the offending subdomains.
Let me do some research and I'll give you the subdomains. --A. B. (talk) 13:04, 15 January 2008 (UTC) 13:01, 15 January 2008 (UTC)Reply
There were dozens, perhaps >100 IPs that spammed hundreds of links. Most of them were subdomains of large hosting services. Mostly they're throwaway subdomains that were probably closed by the hosting services within days. I spent a lot of time gathering links and, on closer examination, I think it was a waste of time since this was almost a year and a half ago. I suggest just removing these from the blacklist and moving on:
  • hometown.aol.de
  • ourworld.cs.com
--A. B. (talk) 22:00, 15 January 2008 (UTC)Reply

Thanks for the work A. B. All in all agreed & so Done. I'm sure some will come back but we can deal with what does when it does --Herby talk thyme 17:40, 17 January 2008 (UTC)Reply

etux.myftp.org

The following discussion is closed.

seems that .myftp is blacklisted so i can't really post my url etux.myftp.org as a free shell and webspace provider , the thing i that .myftp is a no-ip free dynamic dns domain and iam totally wondering why its blacklisted anyway , but i hope it will be delisted as soon as possible :) The preceding unsigned comment was added by L3thal (talk • contribs) 13:10, 16 Jan 2008 (UTC)

It is blacklisted as a URL redirector which are always blacklisted as a matter of policy (to prevent the bypassing of existing blocks). Thanks --Herby talk thyme 13:15, 16 January 2008 (UTC)Reply
well how come , i think every domain is assigned to a server ip ,means it redirect yo to a server ip , please explain more, thanks.

look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shell_account there is a URL should be blacklisted unixclan.no-ip.com , i think i's not fair to blacklist .myftp.org and not .no-ip.com

The fact that we have not listed something is no reason to unlist one I'm afraid. I'm sure we will get to the ones we missed soon.  Declined --Herby talk thyme 08:36, 17 January 2008 (UTC)Reply


hungarybudapestguide.com + touristguide.gyuli.com

The hungarybudapestguide.com + touristguide.gyuli.com has been blacklisted, and I understand the blacklisting. The reason why the addresses were changed to hungarybudapestguide.com was that a new domain name was bought, and therefore I changed the old ones to the new address(there were no more links to touristguide.gyuli.com as the address was banned - if I remember correctly). I agree that I spammed Wikipedia with to many links, in the en:Hungary and en:Budapest category (in different languages), but it can also be seen that I have used it as a reference as well, and not for the purpose of spamming at all (see: en:Budapest#shopping, en:Saint Stephen's Basilica, no:Budapest and some others). I would ask for the blacklisting of hungarybudapestguide.com to be removed (the touristguide.gyuli.com can remain, anyway not using it), and I will not add the page any more as an external link, but it can be used as a reference when needed (that will only be in English and Norwegian, as they are the languages which I know how to use).

Background: Talk:Spam_blacklist#hungarybudapestguide.com_.2B_touristguide.gyuli.com

If this is not possible, I accept that and understand it, but if it could be possible to remove the blacklisting that would be very nice and I would be very grateful. If you should find that I abuse it, blacklist it again at once (but you will not experience that, so do not worry). The preceding unsigned comment was added by Siggiboy81 (talk • contribs) 13:02, 18 Jan 2008 (UTC)

I removed the links from ca. 90 articles yesterday. Others had already removed the links from other articles. In many articles there were two of the links. In all there has probably been more than 200 of your links cross wiki. There were still touristguide.gyuli.com links in some wikis, and there still might be some in the smaller Wikipedias even though I have tried to find and remove all.
Local whitelisting can be sought on the wikis where the link is wanted. A local whitelisting will override this blacklist. For the English Wikipedia it can be done at en:MediaWiki_talk:Spam-whitelist. no.wikipedia doesn't seem to have a whitelist yet, but they can create one if needed.
Please read en:Wikipedia:Conflict of interest before you consider adding more of your links. Thanks. --Jorunn 23:44, 18 January 2008 (UTC)Reply

szlemberk.xf.cz/

Completely legitimate site that I need to use as a reference and external link, I don't see why it is blacklisted.--24.64.124.27 16:30, 18 January 2008 (UTC)Reply

Found that [16], [17] in the archives, --birdy geimfyglið (:> )=| 16:59, 18 January 2008 (UTC)Reply
That doesn't really explain anything, the site has very little advertising and contains useful information.--24.64.124.27 17:29, 18 January 2008 (UTC)Reply
It explains why it was added, the domain was often used for spamming links, it was a problem for cs.wiki but since there is now w:cs:MediaWiki:Spam-whitelist a local whitelist, it is whitelisted there and they can use the links. If any other wiki wants to link they should add it to their local whitelist. Other opinions? Thanks, --birdy geimfyglið (:> )=| 21:55, 18 January 2008 (UTC)Reply

I guess the toss up is whether to remove here & locally blacklist or to look at local whitelisting where needed. Blacklisting here is rather a severe measure if not fully warranted. Any other views? --Herby talk thyme 16:47, 19 January 2008 (UTC)Reply

Troubleshooting and problems

This section is for comments related to problems with the blacklist (such as incorrect syntax or entries not being blocked), or problems saving a page because of a blacklisted link. This is not the section to request that an entry be unlisted (see Proposed removals above).

There is apparently a blacklisted link in Initial D Arcade Stage 4, im not sure which one it is and because of that link, I can't save any changes to the page. Can someone have a look? --DGhstLStRdP 20:35, 25 December 2007 (UTC)Reply

DoneSomeone on en: has already edited out the block, see this (diff). xaosflux Talk 05:13, 2 January 2008 (UTC)Reply

Rule in error

As COIBot repeatedly crashed upon loading the regexes from the meta blacklist, I found that there was a rule with an error. The regex '\bweb\.archive\.org[^ ]{0,50}obsessedwithwrestling\.com' is incorrect, the first [ should be preceded by a \ (so '\bweb\.archive\.org\[^ ]{0,50}obsessedwithwrestling\.com'. Can someone have a look and (if necessary) repair? Thanks. --Beetstra 17:32, 27 November 2007 (UTC)Reply

Think I've fixed it - if not, let me know - cheers --Herby talk thyme 18:27, 27 November 2007 (UTC)Reply

Syntax Error: This is a RegEx Error and produces a error in some regex routines (? Better correct it to (\?

in \zoofi the \ is needless

No, these are perl regex's. "(?" means that the term enclosed in the parentheses is to be matched case insensitively, whereas "(\?" would imply "preceded by a literal '?'". Similarly, "\zoofi" matches "oofi" at the end of a substring being checked, and "zoofi" instead matches the literal "zoofi". AmiDaniel 23:24, 30 November 2007 (UTC)Reply
OK:
i used the list in a program with "Microsoft VBScript Regular Expressions" in VBScript.dll, and this caused a error by "(?". So i thought this is a general RegEx Error. And i thought that the spamwortcheck is principally case insensitive, and you wand finde the literal "?".
And i thought that you want finde "zoofil..", (it was in once the past like this in the list, without "\", if i remember correctly. "zoofil.." is a word for "se-x with a-nimals" and a typical spamword.)
thanks for responding The preceding unsigned comment was added by 88.191.29.92 (talk • contribs) 10:08, 1 Dec 2007 (UTC)
Hmm, check the arguments and entries, some are baby correct. In "/zoofi..." is "/" definitely wrong.

Discussion

Local blacklisting vs. global blacklisting?

Now that there is a local blacklisting capability, the question arises as to when to blacklist locally and when to blacklist here.

My personal opinion is that Meta should remain the primary venue for blacklisting. It's hard to predict who's going to spam more than one Wikipedia. While we now have a tool to find a given spam domain on the 57 largest Wikipedias, it remains problematic to find it on the 200 smaller Wikipedias or the other 450 to 500 Wikimedia projects (Wikiquote, Wikisource, etc.) There's value to all these other projects in listing stuff here.

I think the local blacklist option is good when one project wants a domain blacklisted and another project wants to use it. This happens occasionally when a given spammer makes himself intolerable on one project while the link is being used appropriately on other projects.

What do others think about this? --A. B. (talk) 03:08, 29 July 2007 (UTC)Reply

Generally speaking, I agree with you. I don't have a big problem with local blacklisting on a particular project as a way to immediately interrupt a spammer in progress, but standard procedure should probably be to follow that action up with a request for meta blacklisting.--Isotope23 20:42, 31 July 2007 (UTC)Reply
As a crosswiki admin if I see spam pages created or bunches of links placed I immediately add them to local blacklists that I can access. It's quicker and easier than coming here (where I have not always been helpfully received) and there is at least one or two sites that I've blacklisted that have apparently valid links on en wp for example - just my 0.02 --Herby talk thyme 07:21, 1 August 2007 (UTC)Reply
See Spam blacklist/About and use the block with the smallest possible range. Now local blacklists are available it's not worth the work of blocking here and potentially causing side-effects in hundreds of wikis until there is an established pattern of cross-wiki spamming. Perhaps automatic rejection until at least five wikis have been spammed. And not automatic acceptance after five, just eligibility. Jamesday 20:46, 8 August 2007 (UTC)Reply
Interesting idea - how would you know a site was blocked by five wikis say? They do not tend to be well used (local blacklists) - I'm about the only one who adds to the 4 I have access to. The principle is fine - the practice? --Herby talk thyme 10:08, 9 August 2007 (UTC)Reply
Metric criteria are nice I think. I don't think however we need to say "blocked from five or more wikis". I think that it is just okay "five or more wikis were spammed". Currently, my personal criteria is very low though - spamming to two or more wikis regardless languages (both sets of i. enwiki and enwiktionary and ii. enwiki and dewiki are enough for me, I mean). --Aphaia 10:16, 12 August 2007 (UTC)Reply
I am with AB on this: we should use meta as both the main blocking list and also a forum where people go to see if someone has been causing a wider problem. Otherwise it becomes impossibly complicated to block from here and the argument "it this a nasty spammer who xyz" becomes "who abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz". --AndrewCates 12:55, 23 August 2007 (UTC)Reply
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In the past I've not been well received on this page so have tended to avoid it and operate local blacklists where I have the rights. However I am increasingly interested in this as at least a clearing house for queries influenced in part by A.B. I have posted to a couple of Foundation mailing lists & I'm hoping to hear other views. I'm happy to review/discuss possible spam issues here whenever I'm around - cheers --Herby talk thyme 13:07, 23 August 2007 (UTC)Reply

If we don't blacklist by default here, then there should be a list or some mechanism (perhaps a bot) that tracks all the entries on the local lists so that other projects can check their links against what's been spammed elsewhere.
Ideally, the bot (or human volunteers) would also run periodic checks using a faster, expanded version of http://tools.wikimedia.de/~eagle/linksearch to see if locally blacklisted links are showing up on any of the 700+ Wikimedia projects. (I say "faster, expanded" since that tool checks up to the 57 largest Wikipedias and may take several minutes when checking 57).
Also, it's hard to rule out cross-wiki spam when our best tool just checks 57 of our 700 projects.
--A. B. (talk) 14:01, 23 August 2007 (UTC)Reply
PS, Call me lazy, but maybe it's just easier to just blacklist by default here as opposed to setting up a new coordination system.--A. B. (talk) 14:01, 23 August 2007 (UTC)Reply
When I was involved into the maintenance of this list, some years ago, I got such complaints by email periodically. It takes a time to reply them courtly but firmly. I think this kind of complaints are better to deal by the local people at first. Also I'm afraid this list affects too much websites. So I don't support "anything on meta and at first" tactics. And as for maintenance, this page is huge and editing is a pain. Single-website affecting spams are better to go to their local list, I think. --Aphaia 07:10, 2 September 2007 (UTC)Reply
Aphaia, right now, it seems like this list is running pretty smoothly without much admin effort. As for its maintenance, that doesn't seem to be much of a problem now. As for e-mails, I'm not an admin, but because I make so many requests here, I get them too. I just refer them back to this talk page, suggesting that they make their case here before a wider audience; I also make sure at least they get answer from me here if not from others. The admins that work on this list seem to have thick skins, are undeterred by complaints and are always willing to do the work. As for this list affecting many websites, you're right and that argument cuts both ways. This list also protects many web sites from known spammers.
In any event, what's the mechanism we're using for coordinating to ensure that spammers locally blacklisted in one place aren't spamming in another? Who's doing this work now? We must have a system in place to track this before we deprecate this list to use for proven cross-wiki spam only.
A useful parallel is the whole open proxy issue. For several years, different projects have battled open proxies separately resulting in a large duplication of effort. An open proxy blocked on fr.wikipedia (perhaps our best OP-fighters) would then be used by other spammers, vandals or POV-pushers to cause problems on nl.wikipedia or ja.wikibooks. Only now is there some convergence on a meta-level solution. Meanwhile, we seem to be moving in the opposite direction with spam. Meta has a critical role to play here, whether it's blacklisting globally or just tracking globally to catch cross-wiki spam. Either way, we must not abdicate our role and our responsibility (especially to the smaller wikis which have proven so vulnerable to spam). --A. B. (talk) 17:16, 5 September 2007 (UTC)Reply

Here's another time to blacklist at meta: links to blatant copyright violations. For example, when the domains associated with this discussion all finally get identified, they should probably be blacklisted here even if we only find it on one project. That's because these sites are all blatant violations of different magazines' copyrights; we can't afford to have links to these sites if we can help it. (See the discussion of "contributory infringement" at en:Wikipedia:Copyrights#Linking to copyrighted works and en:Intellectual Reserve v. Utah Lighthouse Ministry). --A. B. (talk) 23:34, 7 September 2007 (UTC)Reply

Agree completely - I do think we need to hammer out some approach to Meta blacklisting policy probably by extended/clarifying this. For anyone new arriving here (Meta sysop or another project user) this page is frankly unhelpful. My time is under considerable pressure at present but I do see this as a high priority and any help will be appreciated.
We would be able to clarify cross wiki spamming as a concept, the fact that some site should probably be blocked at a Meta level anyway such as above or sites that may compromise machines etc. We can also make blocking url shorteners a policy for example --Herby talk thyme 08:00, 8 September 2007 (UTC)Reply

Besides of all ... I eventually found this page: Spam blacklist policy discussion. Since this discussion is lengthy and it becomes clearer we need to have a global policy of inclusion for maintaining this page, are we better to move the discussion place? Or better to stay here? --Aphaia 22:35, 9 September 2007 (UTC)Reply

I'm for here, because if it's spam to one wiki odds are it's spam to most of them. Say, you have a marketing company that uses aggressive JavaScript, if each user on en.wiki who has been there complains, odds are it'll still be aggressive to fr.wiki. Yamakiri 23:03, 9 September 2007 (UTC)Reply

Ok - I agree with Yamakiri's point generally. If they spam one wiki they probably aren't useful to another one (& if they are whitelisting is an option).
However (& thanks Aphaia - I must have found that page in the past because I'd got it on my watchlist) we have Spam blacklist policy discussion & Spam blacklist/About and yet still no real clarity about policy or help for those who are not used to these pages be they admins or other users. My postings to both Foundation-l and the list for Meta met with nothing much so I guess it is up to us to hammer out guidelines policy etc. Until early October my time will be limited but I'll do what I can. I think it may well be worth a fresh start rather than trying to make changes to what we already have? --Herby talk thyme 11:15, 10 September 2007 (UTC)Reply

My 2 cents. I'm sysop at 7 wikis. I would always use local blacklist (for instance, a spanish page isn't likely to be spammed on russian wiki), but if I see crosswiki spam as I JUST spot for [18], I'd come and global block. Local lists exist for a reason, and it's easier to keep track of. Global list should be used only when global blocking is needed. drini [es:] [commons:] 14:17, 11 October 2007 (UTC)Reply

Beyond the 57 Wikipedias searched by Eagle 101's cross-wiki search tool, this blacklist is also relied on by 650+ other Wikimedia Foundation wikis (Wiktionaries, other Wikipedias, etc.). So for Spanish projects, there are these additional targets for Spanish-only spammers for which we don't have much visibility unless someone manually runs a linksearch domain-by-domain, project-by-project:
That or if we're lucky and Luxo's x-wiki user search tool finds the spammer using the same IP or user name on other projects. (That tool is sometimes off-line; at other times it misses contributions on some wikis).
I think another, less important factor to consider is how non-Wikimedia sites might use a domain. All 3000+ Wikia wikis plus a substantial percentage of the 25,000+ unrelated wikis that run on MediaWiki software have chosen to incorporate this blacklist in their own spam filtering. A site selling an obviously bogus get-rich-quick scheme or magnetic underpants as a cancer cure has no value to any of our projects nor to any of the 1000s of other wikis our blacklist affects. You might as well do everyone a favor and globally blacklist such a site even if it appears on just one Wikimedia project. --A. B. (talk) 15:27, 11 October 2007 (UTC)Reply
Picking up Drini's point, local blacklisting is great. However it is dependent on admins locally being
  1. Aware of it
  2. Understanding regex adequately
  3. Being interested in the prevention of (inappropriate) external links
If any of those criteria are absent then so is local blacklisting effectively.
Equally on A. B.'s point, there are some sites that just aren't needed by the Foundation (or most other folk) such as the batch of adult sites I just added. In such a case it matters not whether they spammed one or many wikis they should be listed here not locally I think.
We do need a sharpening of policy (referred to above) which - when excess time is available! - I certainly aim to take a look at. --Herby talk thyme 16:10, 11 October 2007 (UTC)Reply
Coibot's monitor list is quite efficient at spotting crosswiki spam, however it requires that someone actually look at the reports and notice it (as I did with uarticles.blogspot.com, which was recently meta-blacklisted). It has a 'stalk page' feature which picks up domains added to watched pages using the spamlink template.. I imagine it could stalk the local mediawiki blacklist pages as well. I'm a bit reluctant to give it more tasks at this point as it and it's related linkwatchers are resource intensive, consuming about 2/3rds of the resources on a 4proc/4gig Sun Ultra80. --Versageek 16:41, 11 October 2007 (UTC)Reply

Hello all, I don't know if it is possible but it would be a nice feature to have 2 'MediaWiki:Spamprotectiontext', one that shows up if the url is on the local MediaWiki:Spam-blacklist on a given wiki and one that is shown if the url is on the global one here at meta. Because as far as I saw many wikis gave a link to meta in the local MediaWiki:Spamprotectiontext and now people are redirected here even even if the link is not blacklisted here but locally. Best regards, --birdy geimfyglið (:> )=| 20:27, 17 November 2007 (UTC)Reply

bugzilla:12034 opened, --birdy geimfyglið (:> )=| 11:19, 19 November 2007 (UTC)Reply
We've been getting increased en: wiki reports here that are on their local blacklist. I've updated en:'s text to give more information on checking locally for now, though this would be a much better solution. xaosflux Talk 01:53, 24 November 2007 (UTC)Reply
Thank You for Your efforts. Though I saw that also other wikis are directing people here, so that it would still be usefull. I would love to see some activity at that bug, best regards, --birdy geimfyglið (:> )=| 01:02, 25 November 2007 (UTC)Reply
In general, I think the Mediawiki:Spamprotectiontext(s) should be more explanatory. Most wikis only provide a rough translation of the default message. Often users dont know what to do when they are prevented from saving a page - after all, they didn't add the link. And so, if they are only doing a minor edit they will probably just leave it and go on with something else. /NH 01:18, 12 December 2007 (UTC)Reply

Edit-summaries

Hello all, I am curiousif it is possible to have the spamblacklist block also edit summaries. Currently it does not block edit summaries (see [19] -> but [20]). This would be really a great feature since the spambots are concentrating on the summaries. Best regards, --birdy geimfyglið (:> )=| 16:34, 25 November 2007 (UTC)Reply

Is it necessary? A url appears on an edit summary plainly, not as a link. It is less bothersome than spamming on the actual text. It may even be a convenient spam detector. Hillgentleman 06:18, 29 November 2007 (UTC)Reply
The bothersome thing about this is not the link itself, which is in fact not clickable, but the fact that spambots are messing up dozens of wikis, thanks, --birdy geimfyglið (:> )=| 08:49, 29 November 2007 (UTC)Reply
Maybe hard to believe but I am not really interested in the tools, only what I can do with them. One I would love is the ability to block open proxy spambots across all wikis! --Herby talk thyme 12:35, 29 November 2007 (UTC)Reply
True. It may stop them for a while until they become more sophisticated. Hillgentleman 08:52, 30 November 2007 (UTC)Reply

en:User:Shadow1 and I are working on the linkwatchers. At the moment we are running them on 722 wikis (which is 'all' by the count of about one and a half week ago). User:COIBot is watching these 722 wikis, and reports when a link is on its monitorlist (and those links are generally there when it is spammed, see the explanation on en:User:COIBot). On the english wikipedia we use a spamlink template for reporting external links, which directly links to a number of search engines, and to a number of reporting systems, including COIBot. Would the template be of interest here? --Beetstra 09:53, 14 September 2007 (UTC)Reply

A link to the template would be useful? Getting reporting a little more consistent on here would make our lives a little easier too - it is not always clear what the extent of the problem is (nor sometimes the exact site name). Thanks --Herby talk thyme 10:02, 14 September 2007 (UTC)Reply
I created a version of that template here a few months ago: Template:Spamlink. It may need to be updated with the latest, greatest features - but it is here. --Versageek 11:41, 14 September 2007 (UTC)Reply
I have updated the template to a more meta-like form. When you use '* {{spamlink|example.com}}' it displays the next line:


In order:

  1. First what is in the template,
  2. Linksearch for meta and the 5 big wikis (en, de, fr, en.wiktionary, fr.wiktionary, see Table of Wikimedia Projects by Size),
  3. 'LinkReport' is a report generated by an IRC bot by Betacommand, it is a save of a current linksearch on en.wikipedia.
  4. 'COIBot Linkreport' contains a summary of all use (by not-whitelisted users) on all 722 wikiprojects on Table of Wikimedia Projects by Size, since the moment of blacklisting/monitoring (see en:User:COIBot for more info).
  5. Eagle's spam report search searches for reports on en.wikipedia spam archives, and here as well I think.
  6. interwiki link search: 20 and 57 search in resp. the 20 and 57 biggest wikis.
  7. LinkWatcher search searches in en:User:Shadow1's database (only en at the moment, probably at some time also for more/all wikipedia).
  8. Wikipedia search searches for the existence of the page with the url name on en, de and fr.
  9. google search searches for info on the site on google.
  10. Veinors pages contain also link-addition information
  11. domaintools gives info on the domain
  12. AboutUs.org gives info on the domain
  13. Yahoo backlinks, search engine results.

I guess it contains pretty much all the tools needed to investigate the link, latest additions and current use. Hope this helps. --Beetstra 12:37, 14 September 2007 (UTC)Reply

Looks good - we'll see how it goes as it gets used. Given the nature of it I'll probably semi protect it I think - thanks --Herby talk thyme 12:43, 14 September 2007 (UTC)Reply
I think it is protected (or did you just do that?). --Beetstra 12:55, 14 September 2007 (UTC)Reply
By the way, to keep yourself more or less up to date, you can watchlist User:COIBot/LinkReports, that gets updated when COIBot saves a report (about every 5 minutes). It may get you one step ahead of a spammer (though take care interpreting the report, COIBot sometimes picks up links by mistake). --Beetstra 13:02, 14 September 2007 (UTC)Reply
Protection - yes (when I am around I am not generally slow!). As to watching (& for me) the honest answer at present is "no time" - I would consider myself pretty active on three wikis at least so I tend not be short of work. When I get time I will check it out and see what I can do - thanks for your work & regards --Herby talk thyme 13:20, 14 September 2007 (UTC)Reply