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::::::::Voting is not relevant anymore, not only for "larger proposals". The current wording suggest that this only happens within the "larger proposals" category, but is not true. Is relevant to ANY category, and this should be stated clearly. [[User:Theklan|Theklan]] ([[User talk:Theklan#top|talk]]) 17:18, 24 January 2023 (UTC) |
::::::::Voting is not relevant anymore, not only for "larger proposals". The current wording suggest that this only happens within the "larger proposals" category, but is not true. Is relevant to ANY category, and this should be stated clearly. [[User:Theklan|Theklan]] ([[User talk:Theklan#top|talk]]) 17:18, 24 January 2023 (UTC) |
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:::::::::The process is explained [[Community Wishlist Survey/Prioritization|here]], that's why I suggested that you continue a discussion, in order to suggest improvements to the WMF procedure. Probably they realized that they didn't have the time and technical resources to be able to manage all the first 10 wishes that came out every year. But I don't see why you should continue to edit the pages where WMF is working. I would therefore ask you, again, to revert your edit in the disclaimer and not to modify the pages in which WMF is working. Thanks [[User:Superpes15|Superpes15]] ([[User talk:Superpes15|talk]]) 17:26, 24 January 2023 (UTC) |
:::::::::The process is explained [[Community Wishlist Survey/Prioritization|here]], that's why I suggested that you continue a discussion, in order to suggest improvements to the WMF procedure. Probably they realized that they didn't have the time and technical resources to be able to manage all the first 10 wishes that came out every year. But I don't see why you should continue to edit the pages where WMF is working. I would therefore ask you, again, to revert your edit in the disclaimer and not to modify the pages in which WMF is working. Thanks [[User:Superpes15|Superpes15]] ([[User talk:Superpes15|talk]]) 17:26, 24 January 2023 (UTC) |
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::::::::::I will do it because I don't want an edit war, but I disagree completely with the idea. I would suggest @[[User:MusikAnimal (WMF)|MusikAnimal (WMF)]] to make the changes to reflect the current process in [[Community_Wishlist_Survey_2023]], where it can't be found. [[User:Theklan|Theklan]] ([[User talk:Theklan#top|talk]]) 17:29, 24 January 2023 (UTC) |
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Welcome to Meta!
Hello Theklan, and welcome to the Wikimedia Meta-Wiki! This website is for coordinating and discussing all Wikimedia projects. You may find it useful to read our policy page. If you are interested in doing translations, visit Meta:Babylon. You can also leave a note on Meta:Babel or Wikimedia Forum (please read the instructions at the top of the page before posting there). If you would like, feel free to ask me questions on my talk page. Happy editing! --Mikhailov Kusserow (talk) 03:25, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
Fundraising translation feedback
Hey Theklan,
I wanted to ask for your help. As you may be aware we have been running banners on many language wikis. We have a lot of new content this year and I really want to conduct a thorough review of our translations. This is a combination of feedback from the community, readers, donors as well as those with professional translator experience. This will help us ensure the highest quality of translations used in our messaging.
To help us out with this I wonder if you would be willing to give us feedback for Spanish using This Link
Simply follow the simple instructions on that page and if you have any questions feel free to contact me on my talk page.
Many Thanks
Jseddon (WMF) (talk) 20:24, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
Re: eu.wiki coordinates and images
Hello, thanks for your update and question, I've replied at mw:Thread:Extension talk:PageImages/Maps and other images to exclude. Hopefully devs will be able to give you a more useful answer there. --Nemo 08:00, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
Gràcies/Thank you
Hola, gràcies a la teva firma donant suport a la nostra associació. El passat dia 5 de juny Amical Wikimedia (Associació Amical Viquipèdia) va ser reconeguda pel Consell d'Administració de la Fundació Wikimedia com a Organització Temàtica. Pots veure el comunicat de l'associació en català aquí o el comunicat de la WMF en anglès aquí. Per a la nostra associació és una fita molt important, portàvem 5 anys demanant ésser un organisme oficial. Nosaltres continuarem la nostra tasca de promoció al carrer i a les institucions de la Viquipèdia i els seus projectes germans arreu dels territoris de parla catalana.
Hello, thanks for your signature giving support to our association. Last 5th of June Amical Wikimedia (Associació Amical Viquipèdia) was recognised by the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees as a Thematic Organization. You can read the news bulletin of our association in Catalan here or the WMF's bulletin in English here. For our association, this is a very important achievement: we have been pursuing the official recognition for the last 5 years. We are going to continue the task of promoting Wikipedia and its sister projects all around the Catalan-speaking regions.
Moltes gràcies, Thank you --Davidpar (talk) 15:20, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
Superprotect status
Dear Theklan, since you are an administrator on a wiki from which no user participated in this discussion, I'd like to make sure you are aware of some recent events which may alter what the Wikimedia Foundation lets you do on your wiki: Superprotect.
- Request for comment: Requests for comment/Superprotect rights
- An open letter about its implementation: Letter to Wikimedia Foundation: Superprotect and Media Viewer
Peteforsyth 09:51, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
2016 Community Wishlist Survey
Hi,
You’re getting this message because you participated in the 2015 Community Wishlist Survey and we want to make sure you don't miss it this year – or at least can make the conscious choice to ignore if it you want to. The 2015 survey decided what the Community Tech team should work on during 2016. It was also the focus of Wikimedia hackathons and work by other developers. You can see the status of wishes from the 2015 wishlist at 2015 Community Wishlist Survey/Results.
The 2016 Community Wishlist Survey is now open for wishes. You can create proposals until November 20. You will be able to vote on which wishes you think are best or most important between November 28 and December 12. /Johan (WMF) (talk) via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 11:17, 14 November 2016 (UTC)
Translation request
Hello, I understand you speak Basque/Euskara. I was wondering if you can translate "Village in China", "Commune in Morocco", and "village in Indonesia". It is for updating Wikidata. Thanks in advance. --Artix Kreiger (Message Wall)
- @Artix Kreiger: Of course! Txinako herria, Marokoko udalerria and Indonesiako herria. -Theklan (talk) 09:56, 7 March 2018 (UTC)
Commond deletion bot requirements
I'm contacting you because you supported the Commons Deletion Bot proposal in the 2017 Community Wishlist. The Wishlist team has finalized the draft specifications for how the bot will work, and are seeking review in confirming or discussing the plans for the bot. If you have some time, please take a look and leave a comment. Thanks, happy editing to you. - Keegan (WMF) (talk) 19:06, 12 April 2018 (UTC)
Commons deletion notification bot
Greetings,
You are receiving this message because you supported the Commons deletion notification bot in the 2017 Community Wishlist Survey.
Commons deletion notification bot is ready to be deployed to any Wikimedia wiki that wishes to use it. If your community is interested in the bot, you can leave a request on the project page on meta-wiki. The bot messages are available for translation on translatewiki.net, as part of preparing the bot for release.
Thank you for your participation in the Wishlist. -- Keegan (WMF) (talk) 17:29, 16 August 2018 (UTC)
SVG Translate Community wishlist survey project
Hello! Thank you for voting for the SVG Translate project that was proposed in the 2017 Wishlist survey. The Community Tech team in the Wikimedia Foundation is beginning to start their work on the project. We're currently looking for feedback on some open questions which will allow us to come up with preliminary designs for the tool. If you are interested in being involved, you can watch the project page and join in the discussions on the talk page. Looking forward to hearing your thoughts and learning from your experiences. Thank you. -- NKohli (WMF), Product Manager, Community Tech (talk) 21:53, 16 August 2018 (UTC)
The Community Wishlist Survey
Hi,
You get this message because you’ve previously participated in the Community Wishlist Survey. I just wanted to let you know that this year’s survey is now open for proposals. You can suggest technical changes until 11 November: Community Wishlist Survey 2019.
You can vote from November 16 to November 30. To keep the number of messages at a reasonable level, I won’t send out a separate reminder to you about that. /Johan (WMF) 11:23, 30 October 2018 (UTC)
Your Wishlist proposals
Thanks for participating in this year's survey! Unfortunately, you can make no more than three proposals. Please let us know what three you you'd like to keep, and we will Archive the others. From there, you can seek others to adopt your proposals, if you want. Sorry you weren't aware of this rule! And thanks for your understanding :) MusikAnimal (WMF) (talk) 14:44, 30 October 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks MusikAnimal (WMF)! I will change some of them and limit to the most interesting ones! -Theklan (talk) 20:10, 30 October 2018 (UTC)
- Hey there! Thanks for narrowing down your proposals. You've got just one more to archive to be at the three-proposal limit. You can either let me know which one you want to archive here, or do as you did before and add the withdrawn template. Thanks again, MusikAnimal (WMF) (talk) 22:10, 30 October 2018 (UTC)
[Wikipedia & Education User Group] Updates: November 2018
Greetings,
Integrating Wikimedia with education is a powerful strategy for the outreach of Wikimedia projects. Realising this concept, a group of leaders promoted this and formed the Wikipedia Education Collaborative. After some time, this evolved to become a user group, officially recognised by the Affiliations Committee in June 2018. The user group had its first board elections earlier in September. In the process to formalise activities and give a shape the user group for long-term sustainability, we are now revamping our processes. Thanks for supporting us during incubation stages, we are now inviting you to formally join the user group by following the instructions on the members' page. Being a member will allow you to be a part of this wonderful collaboration and also do interesting stuff.
Kind regards
On behalf of Wikipedia and Education UG, MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 11:44, 10 November 2018 (UTC)
Wikipedia+Education Programme?
Hello @Theklan:, We met at Maynooth last year. Hope you are well. Just wondering if you know when the conference submission will be reviewed. If accepted I will need time to apply for travel funds. Best, AugusteBlanqui (talk) 10:25, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
- @Auguste Blanqui: We are working on that. I hope to have an answer for the next week. Neverthless, most of the applications will be accepted in one way or another. -Theklan (talk) 10:32, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
Lightning talks for Wikipedia+Education Conference
Hi Theklan
I see there are some spaces left for lightning talks in the programme, how do I submit one? Do I just add it to the programme or write it out here or something else?
Thanks
John Cummings (talk) 12:10, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
- @John Cummings: Simply add it. Are you registered for the Conference? -Theklan (talk) 12:13, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
- There is no registration link on the website, I assumed that it was open to everyone? Or has it closed? John Cummings (talk) 12:47, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
- It was closed a month ago. There is a notice about applications closure and how to proceed. If you are planning to attend and have everything ready, I would suggest you to write ASAP there. -Theklan (talk) 13:01, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks, sorry for the miss-understanding, I assumed the notice was about submissions not attendance. Thanks for your help, John Cummings (talk) 13:15, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
- It was closed a month ago. There is a notice about applications closure and how to proceed. If you are planning to attend and have everything ready, I would suggest you to write ASAP there. -Theklan (talk) 13:01, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
- There is no registration link on the website, I assumed that it was open to everyone? Or has it closed? John Cummings (talk) 12:47, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
Please translate the Editing newsletter
Would you please translate VisualEditor/Newsletter/2019/July into your favorite language for me? I'd really appreciate it. Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 17:30, 19 July 2019 (UTC)
Thank you for helping to create the Wikimedia 2030 Movement Strategy Recommendations
Wikimedia 2030 | ||
Thank you very much for everything you did to help create the Wikimedia 2030 Movement Strategy Recommendations! I am especially grateful for the enormous amount of work you did in the Diversity working group and all the care and commitment you brought to the process. --Nicole Ebber (WMDE) (talk) 09:35, 25 June 2020 (UTC) |
Global Conversations registration reminder
Hi Theklan,
This is a reminder that if you have not yet registered for the Global Conversations on Nov. 21 and 22, please do so! Register here. Registration closes by Nov. 20. We will email you the login information for Zoom prior to the call. Thank you. Looking forward to welcoming you this weekend.
MPourzaki (WMF) (talk) 16:25, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
- @MPourzaki (WMF): Hello! I registered like a week ago. I even have an appointment in my agenda for Sunday at 17:00UTC. -Theklan (talk) 16:30, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
The 2021 Community Wishlist Survey is now open! This survey is the process where communities decide what the Community Tech team should work on over the next year. We encourage everyone to submit proposals until the deadline on 30 November, or comment on other proposals to help make them better. The communities will vote on the proposals between 8 December and 21 December.
The Community Tech team is focused on tools for experienced Wikimedia editors. You can write proposals in any language, and we will translate them for you. Thank you, and we look forward to seeing your proposals!
18:26, 20 November 2020 (UTC)
We invite all registered users to vote on the 2021 Community Wishlist Survey. You can vote from now until 21 December for as many different wishes as you want.
In the Survey, wishes for new and improved tools for experienced editors are collected. After the voting, we will do our best to grant your wishes. We will start with the most popular ones.
We, the Community Tech, are one of the Wikimedia Foundation teams. We create and improve editing and wiki moderation tools. What we work on is decided based on results of the Community Wishlist Survey. Once a year, you can submit wishes. After two weeks, you can vote on the ones that you're most interested in. Next, we choose wishes from the survey to work on. Some of the wishes may be granted by volunteer developers or other teams.
We are waiting for your votes. Thank you!
16:09, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
Wikidata Lexemes on eu Wiktionary?
Hi Theklan! If I remember correctly, you have expressed interest in the name of the Basque Wiktionary community to use Lexicographic data from Wikidata? I am checking if you would like to start a conversation on eu.wikt to see if there is opposition to have eu.wiktionary be one of the early test Wiktionaries for that feature? If you do, let us know on phabricator:T294159. --denny (talk) 22:44, 22 October 2021 (UTC)
Leadership Development Working Group: Reminder to apply by 10 April 2022
Hello, I'm reaching out to you today as you've previously expressed interest in Movement Strategy and Governance-related topics. I was hoping to share the below message with you and your talk page guests, as the call for applications for this working group ends soon.
The Community Development team at the Wikimedia Foundation is supporting the creation of a global, community-driven Leadership Development Working Group. The purpose of the working group is to advise leadership development work. Feedback was collected in February 2022 and a summary of the feedback is on Meta-wiki. The application period to join the Working Group is now open and is closing soon on April 10, 2022. Please review the information about the working group, share with community members who might be interested, and apply if you are interested.
Thank you in advance for your consideration =) Xeno (WMF) (talk) 17:04, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
- Thans Xeno. What's the point of developing leadership if the WMF is not accountable for anything those "leaders" are asking? Theklan (talk) 17:45, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
Thank you for running a workshop at the Celtic Knot Conference 2022!
A huge thank you from the Celtic Knot organizing team (Richard, Daria and myself) for running a workshop at the conference! We truly appreciate the work and dedication you put in the preparation phase as well as in delivering the workshop.
To show our appreciation, we would like to give you this barnstar - feel free to use it anywhere you want, for example on your userpage.
I’m looking forward to work with you on future events and projects! Lea Lacroix (WMDE) (talk) 10:50, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
- Oh! So cute! Thanks Lea... I hope to see you soon. Theklan (talk) 18:33, 10 July 2022 (UTC)
Wishlist
Hi, I noticed your posts on Talk:Community Wishlist Survey. Since the process from 2021 is different, as you were told, there is no top 10 to evaluate. However, imho, the ones that WMF can't process (due to various reasons) shouldn't be put among the "not done" ones, as those yet to be done. I agree that we should discuss it, but in my opinion, also in order not to make the discussion very dispersive, it's better to discuss it in one single place, preferably here. So I would kindly ask you to report this last discussion on Talk:Community Wishlist Survey, so that it can be reached by the greatest number of interested people, but to avoid inserting tables there, which in the end don't reflect the real situation at the moment from the point of view of WMF, and make the talk page very heavy and difficult to read (but you of course can summarize the tables - or perhaps collapse them - here), so anyone can discuss in that page. Thanks for your understanding and best regards! Superpes15 (talk) 23:12, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks for your suggestions. The problem here is that the WMF staff was trying to archive the proposal and suggested to move the discussion to the talk page. I did it, and provided evidence of the problem. I would like to follow on at the proposal itself, but I want to close also the always present argument of you should open a discussion at the talk page.
- Also, not having a Top 10 is a great point of the nonsense of this wishlist, as we can't even vote for wishes in a democratic way. I would accept putting "declined" instead of "not done", but I don't know if they have been actually declined. Sincerely... Theklan (talk) 23:16, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
- Uhm, seems to me that WMF says it cannot guarantee to execute the suggestion that will come out of that thread (feel free to correct me if I'm wrong), but other users have also supports the existence of the discussion, so I don't think it will be closed given that a constructive proposal could come out. Yes, the wishlist - like imho everything in any area of our life - have many points that can be upgraded, but I'm also sure that such a discussion would be very long. For this too, I suggest you to use only one page and to wait before editing the tables! As I can see, however, the unprocessable proposals can be currently seen on the result pages, so they aren't currently hidden, there is no danger that they will disappear ;) Best regards Superpes15 (talk) 23:43, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
- The situation is serious, and the change made at Template:Community Wishlist Survey/Larger suggestions/Disclaimer reflects the current situation. Voting is no longer the way to decide what wish is going to be made, and this should be reflected on this template. Theklan (talk) 16:48, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
- I don't think that a disclaimer changed by you will reflect WMF's though. Since that disclaimer reflects the opinion of WMF, I don't see what advantage you would have in changing it (since it's not even marked for translation). This is not a private wiki, obviously, but it's a coordination project, and there are some spaces where it's better to wait for those who are competent to edit. It's like I start modifying the privacy policy or the checkuser policy, or UCoC, according to my preferences and saying that we are on metawiki so I can do it. I fully understand your point but, as I said, please continue to discuss it in the right place with the community, so that a serious proposal can come out to be submitted to WMF, that can improve wishlists, and don't conflict the pages where WMF is working, doing edit warring. So I kindly ask you to revert your last edit in the disclaimer (I don't want to generate another edit war). Thanks again for your understanding! Superpes15 (talk) 17:07, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
- Sorry, but accuracy is important. I have edited it to reflect current situation, and then I have opened an issue in the talk page. If the change is not accurate, I should revert it, but wording is important. I would make the same if I find a typo in the UCoC or in the Checkuser policy. I would change the content of those pages because they are policies or text to vote as they are. I don't see how those realities can be the same. Theklan (talk) 17:11, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
- I have seen now the second revert. There is a dispute on the accuracy of the content of that page. WMF is presenting something that is not accurate, and there's a discussion happening on the talk page. This should be noted to the readers somehow, as the WMF is stubborn presenting fabricated facts in order to change the reality of what is being discussed. How can wikimedians know that the information is disputed? Theklan (talk) 17:13, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
- This is not a typo, you changed the meaning of the content. You can't say "but voting is not relevant to adopt an idea", because if an idea is not voted, they surely will not implemented, so how this can reflect a WMF's (or community's) though? This is a personal opinion imho. Superpes15 (talk) 17:15, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
- Because @MusikAnimal (WMF) (the WMF reflects an official account) said it, literally: "Since 2021, we expressly do not commit to the top 10. Instead, we use a prioritization framework to help us ascertain what we can afford to do annually. It's far from perfect, but we believe it's a step up from the old "top 10" commitment that we used to have, which left a lot of wishes undone."
- Voting is not relevant anymore, not only for "larger proposals". The current wording suggest that this only happens within the "larger proposals" category, but is not true. Is relevant to ANY category, and this should be stated clearly. Theklan (talk) 17:18, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
- The process is explained here, that's why I suggested that you continue a discussion, in order to suggest improvements to the WMF procedure. Probably they realized that they didn't have the time and technical resources to be able to manage all the first 10 wishes that came out every year. But I don't see why you should continue to edit the pages where WMF is working. I would therefore ask you, again, to revert your edit in the disclaimer and not to modify the pages in which WMF is working. Thanks Superpes15 (talk) 17:26, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
- I will do it because I don't want an edit war, but I disagree completely with the idea. I would suggest @MusikAnimal (WMF) to make the changes to reflect the current process in Community_Wishlist_Survey_2023, where it can't be found. Theklan (talk) 17:29, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
- The process is explained here, that's why I suggested that you continue a discussion, in order to suggest improvements to the WMF procedure. Probably they realized that they didn't have the time and technical resources to be able to manage all the first 10 wishes that came out every year. But I don't see why you should continue to edit the pages where WMF is working. I would therefore ask you, again, to revert your edit in the disclaimer and not to modify the pages in which WMF is working. Thanks Superpes15 (talk) 17:26, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
- This is not a typo, you changed the meaning of the content. You can't say "but voting is not relevant to adopt an idea", because if an idea is not voted, they surely will not implemented, so how this can reflect a WMF's (or community's) though? This is a personal opinion imho. Superpes15 (talk) 17:15, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
- I have seen now the second revert. There is a dispute on the accuracy of the content of that page. WMF is presenting something that is not accurate, and there's a discussion happening on the talk page. This should be noted to the readers somehow, as the WMF is stubborn presenting fabricated facts in order to change the reality of what is being discussed. How can wikimedians know that the information is disputed? Theklan (talk) 17:13, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
- Sorry, but accuracy is important. I have edited it to reflect current situation, and then I have opened an issue in the talk page. If the change is not accurate, I should revert it, but wording is important. I would make the same if I find a typo in the UCoC or in the Checkuser policy. I would change the content of those pages because they are policies or text to vote as they are. I don't see how those realities can be the same. Theklan (talk) 17:11, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
- I don't think that a disclaimer changed by you will reflect WMF's though. Since that disclaimer reflects the opinion of WMF, I don't see what advantage you would have in changing it (since it's not even marked for translation). This is not a private wiki, obviously, but it's a coordination project, and there are some spaces where it's better to wait for those who are competent to edit. It's like I start modifying the privacy policy or the checkuser policy, or UCoC, according to my preferences and saying that we are on metawiki so I can do it. I fully understand your point but, as I said, please continue to discuss it in the right place with the community, so that a serious proposal can come out to be submitted to WMF, that can improve wishlists, and don't conflict the pages where WMF is working, doing edit warring. So I kindly ask you to revert your last edit in the disclaimer (I don't want to generate another edit war). Thanks again for your understanding! Superpes15 (talk) 17:07, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
- The situation is serious, and the change made at Template:Community Wishlist Survey/Larger suggestions/Disclaimer reflects the current situation. Voting is no longer the way to decide what wish is going to be made, and this should be reflected on this template. Theklan (talk) 16:48, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
- Uhm, seems to me that WMF says it cannot guarantee to execute the suggestion that will come out of that thread (feel free to correct me if I'm wrong), but other users have also supports the existence of the discussion, so I don't think it will be closed given that a constructive proposal could come out. Yes, the wishlist - like imho everything in any area of our life - have many points that can be upgraded, but I'm also sure that such a discussion would be very long. For this too, I suggest you to use only one page and to wait before editing the tables! As I can see, however, the unprocessable proposals can be currently seen on the result pages, so they aren't currently hidden, there is no danger that they will disappear ;) Best regards Superpes15 (talk) 23:43, 23 January 2023 (UTC)