while I'd like to get on "A380" page.

@.avgas: Can you please explain which actual underlying problem this would solve for you? Is this just a "I like blue more than red" personal preference, or is there an actual use case for this change?

For my better understanding, the result is the line "The following pages link to A380" with A380 linking to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A380 . The reporter seems to request to append redirect=no to that very link.

Still missing a use case why looking at a Redirect page helps you with getting work done, compared to the redirect target page. See T189860#4094780.

Thanks @Aklapper, you well summarized. I've added a use case directly from the task description.

Change 431629 had a related patch set uploaded (by Daimona Eaytoy; owner: Daimona Eaytoy):
[mediawiki/core@master] Use redirect=no in whatLinksHere if the target is a redirect

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/431629

Good job @Daimona.

Change 431629 merged by jenkins-bot:
[mediawiki/core@master] Use redirect=no in whatLinksHere if the target is a redirect

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/431629

Change 436307 had a related patch set uploaded (by Daimona Eaytoy; owner: Daimona Eaytoy):
[mediawiki/core@master] Make linkshere-related messages backward compatible

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/436307

Better late than never. We should notify users that they need to move customization to the new message, keeping in mind that it will be treated as HTML, and if they already made some change to workaround the HTML link they'll be able again to use $1 as before.

@Daimona I will take care for the change on translatewiki.net and change $1 to $2 in all involved messages.

@Raymond Many thanks! Of course, we need to wait for the patch above to be merged on master and maybe backported.

I called it annoying and pointless before knowing the purpose was to enable redirect=no. Sorry about that.
I'm unsure what it means when it's both said the new version will be backwards compatible and it will be html. Will customized messages be able to use wikitext like previously? If yes then all sounds fine. If no then the previous customized functionality may be hard or impossible to restore. It used features like namespace-dependent behaviour and url encoding of the page name. MediaWiki messages should allow wikitext as much as possible. Wikisyntax can link with redirect=no by using a url instead of a wikilink, e.g.:
<span class="plainlinks">[{{fullurl:$1|redirect=no}} $1]</span>

But at the mobile site it would link to the desktop site due to T52399.
If there is a choice between enabling wikitext and enabling redirect=no then I strongly prefer the former.

Yes, it'll be possible to use wikitext there. Anyway let's wait for someone with a better idea or to merge my patches.

How would you phrase this in Tech News, if included in the message that goes on Monday? Something like this?

Redirect links in [[Special:What links here]] now link to the original page and not the target page. This was done last week. This was a problem for some wikis that now had messages that were no longer true. A new change tries to correct this. Wikis that already changed their customised messages might have to change them again. [link]

@Johan Yeah, more or less, thanks :) I didn't write it myself because I'd rather wait for the patch, first. Actually, I realized that we may go back to the message without "-2", as far as we keep the old $1 parameter the same as above, and of course if Raymond could help us by moving again all messages. So, depending on whether we move back messages (1) or not (2) my proposed message would be:

(1)

Redirect links in [[Special:What links here]] now link to the original page and not the target page. This was done last week by changing the used messages: [[Mediawiki:linkshere]], [[Mediawiki:nolinkshere]] e [[Mediawiki:nolinkshere-ns]] were added a "-2" at the end. This was a problem for some wikis that customized the message, since the new, uncustomized version started to appear and old customization stopped working. A new change corrected this by using the old messages again, with one more parameter for customization. Wikis that already changed their customized messages with the new "-2" suffix will have to move the customization back again. [link]

(2)

Redirect links in [[Special:What links here]] now link to the original page and not the target page. This was done last week by changing the used messages: [[Mediawiki:linkshere]], [[Mediawiki:nolinkshere]] e [[Mediawiki:nolinkshere-ns]] were added a "-2" at the end. This was a problem for some wikis that customized the message, since the new, uncustomized version started to appear and old customization stopped working. A new change corrected this by re-adding the old parameter used for customization. Wikis will only have to move their old customized message to the new "-2" one without any further change. [link]

As usual, this surely is unnecessarily verbose and might non be suitable for en-1 users, but unfortunately I can't do much better.

Thanks. And don't worry about being unnecessarily verbose – fixing that is part of why I'm here, after all. (:

I'll wait with including this until we know what we're going to do.

Change 436307 merged by jenkins-bot:
[mediawiki/core@master] Make linkshere-related messages backward compatible

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/436307

Change 436684 had a related patch set uploaded (by Daimona Eaytoy; owner: Daimona Eaytoy):
[mediawiki/core@master] Use the old linkshere-related messages without "-2"

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/436684

The patch above is to restore old messages, which I think we can do safely. @Legoktm since you reviewed the other related patches, could you please take a look at this as well? @Johan, version (1) in my previous post can now be added to T/N, and @Raymond could you please do the following?

• Re-move "linkshere-2", "nolinkshere-2" and "nolinkshere-ns-2" to their old version without "-2" (that is, revert the previous move)
• Change $1 to $2

And this should solve this problem once and for all :-)

@Daimona: Text replacement - "$1" to "$2" done per https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/436307

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/436684 is not merged until now. Re-move will be done after the merge.

Could someone please review the patch above? I think it's much better if we get everything up all at once with this week's train.

In T189860#4255928, @Daimona wrote:

Could someone please review the patch above? I think it's much better if we get everything up all at once with this week's train.

Sorry for the delay, reviewed it now. Do you want it backported?

Change 436684 merged by jenkins-bot:
[mediawiki/core@master] Use the old linkshere-related messages without "-2"

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/436684

No problem :-) I'd say yes, let's put it in the ongoing train (together with the change on translatewiki), because of how we notified users about this

Change 437924 had a related patch set uploaded (by Daimona Eaytoy; owner: Daimona Eaytoy):
[mediawiki/core@wmf/1.32.0-wmf.7] Use the old linkshere-related messages without "-2"

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/437924

@Daimona: Translations moved back on translatewiki.net. Export to Gerrit will follow next night.

Many thanks! So we're waiting for the change to come on gerrit and the backport of the above change as well.

Change 437924 abandoned by Daimona Eaytoy:
Use the old linkshere-related messages without "-2"

Reason:
We decided to wait for the train.

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/437924