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Sorry to spam you I just realized you have some of the previously mentioned suggestions and you do have good mass removal options. Sorry again about suggesting stuff you already have, and I do need to give you some kudos on certain inclusions on your deck!

March 1, 2025 4:15 a.m.

I just realized I also tend to lean Blue when it comes to my interaction, but there are a whole myriad of choices depending on the colors you lean. Please let me know what is your color preference as well, as a deck is merely a form of self expression for it's owner. Also, another group of cards to consider are the instant cycle from the Commander 2020 decks, e.g. Fierce Guardianship, Deflecting Swat, Deadly Rollick, and Flawless Maneuver.

March 1, 2025 4:11 a.m.

Okay Twinships, lets start with the most important thing you must know about Slivers - and repeat after me: "Slivers are a sometimes food.". While they are amazing, and the more show up the more ridiculous the boardstate - you don't need all of them. There are times when you absolutely need room for other things like interaction, engines, you know...an actual deck. First things first - Who is your commander? To designate a Commander for the list on TappedOut you need to tag the card with CMDR when editing your deck list. Depending on the Commander, choices and recommendations will vary.

As of now, your deck has no engines, interaction, or resiliency - all of which are needed as you seem to be suffering from the classic Sliver problem of poor table politics. So, lets start looking at some card recommendations:

  • Lurking Predators: You need an engine, and this is as good as any. It also plays into table politics as it disincentivizes other decks from popping off at best, at worst it gets your opponents focusing on it instead of your creatures.
  • Intruder Alarm: You need an engine, this one in particular is one of the usual suspects for slivers that help close out games. When Heart Sliver (or any other haste enabler) and Manaweft Sliver (or any other dork) are on the field you can at worst play your whole hand, and at best play your whole deck and close the game on the same turn. Just make sure you only play this when you can effectively end the game as it is an effect that benefits your opponents as well.

  • Worldly Tutor: You need tutors.

  • Sylvan Tutor: You need tutors.
  • Demonic Tutor: You need tutors.
  • Grim Tutor: You need tutors.
  • Guardian Project: You need card draw.
  • Dormant Sliver: This is an optional card draw suggestion as you need a reliable sac outlet to remove the Defender ability from your Sliver
  • Counterspell: You need interaction.
  • Mana Drain: You need interaction.
  • Strix Serenade: You need interaction.
  • Swan Song: You need interaction.
  • Kindred Dominance: You need mass removal to slow down faster players.
  • Blasphemous Act: You need mass removal to slow down faster players. This also combos very well with Spiteful Sliver as well.
  • Cyclonic Rift: You need mass removal to slow down faster players and have answers.
  • Consider the Talisman cycle: Talisman of Curiosity, Talisman of Dominance etc. You need more rocks and means of fixing your manabase.
  • Kodama's Reach: The Sister to Cultivate - you need as many options as possible to fix your manabase in this deck as you are running all 5 colors. 5 Color decks tend to run slow and inefficient if you don't invest heavily in the manabase and/or in many different options for color fixing. On that same note, consider Skyshroud Claim as it is also very similar in nature as long as you have lands with multiple subtypes e.g. Stomping Groundfoil or Breeding Poolfoil which are both Forests but also are other land types. Also on that note - get shocklands. All of them. If you can also afford it get the Kahns of Tarkir/Onslaught/Zendikar Fetchlands as well. An okay cheaper substitute for the previously mentioned would be the Mirage Fetchlands - but they're an incomplete cycle. Sorry for the tangent here.

Now, these are just a start to some suggestions and ideas for your deck. But we can't get started until you designate your commander. Then we can start cutting to make room. Are there any pet cards or ideas you have? Please share.

March 1, 2025 4:05 a.m.

I'm not sure what you mean in regards to "I like the flexibility those provide over Worldly Tutor." This is how I envision it's use: Turn: You start by attacking with Gishath targeting an opponent with a weak board state. No blocks declared and combat damage is assigned. Gishath's triggered ability hits the stack, in response you cast Worldly Tutor placing Etali, Primal Conqueror  Flip to the top of your library. Worldly Tutor resolves, and Gishath has a guaranteed hit at the start of it's triggered ability resolving. Unfortunately you'd have to telegraph your moves with Sylvan Tutor as it's a Sorcery. You'd just cast it before you go to combat. The flexibility here comes in the fact that you also can just use said spells to help your early game as well getting access to Intrepid Paleontologist or Selvala, Heart of the Wilds. I suggest you revisit Worldly Tutor and Sylvan Tutor - perhaps proxy them in for a game or two and see what happens.

February 22, 2025 12:22 a.m.

Oh! and I can't believe I didn't say this, but thank you for they very nice compliment regarding my own take on Dino Tribal. I appreciate the nice words. I was half-joking about Gaea's Cradle, by the way. I full well understand that it's often a prohibitively expensive card and to some can feel a bit "win more", but in my eyes it significantly lowers the bar for hitting "critical mass" with your mana. As you build your board with creatures - something your deck wants to do, Cradle simply rewards you for "free" effectively. It helps keep the deck explosive - Growing Rites of Itlimoc  Flip is a considerably less over powered viable alternative, but why not have both?

February 21, 2025 2:22 p.m.

Ah! You're right about that Roaming Throne! I missed that. Sorry for the wasted suggestion. Interesting philosophy regarding your commander getting combat damage - instead of trying to sneak by, you just hit them harder. Well i'm glad you're considering Finale of Devastation as it fits this ethos quite nicely. I do wonder about your deck's consistency though - have you ever found yourself needing to tutor for creatures? I see you're considering Worldly Tutor, what about Sylvan Tutor? Both place creatures on top of your library, so it synchronizes perfectly with your Commander's triggers. What maybe more ramp? There's Kodama's Reach, the sibling to Cultivate that you could also include.

Now lastly, this suggestion is very expensive - but why settle for Three Tree City when you could go for Gaea's Cradle? Gishath Spared No Expense, so why should you? Just hear me out - this card is indeed a game changer, and a very splashy one. You don't have purchase it, as you can proxy. But if that's not your style, I won't slight you. On the other hand if you have a full trade binder with some pricey goodies you could go to an LGS you trust and work out a deal. I've done something like this before and it's worked out for me. But again, this is a very subjective thing. If that doesn't seem appealing, you could also try Growing Rites of Itlimoc  Flip. It can help you get another creature in hand/filter the top of your library. What're your thoughts?

February 21, 2025 10:29 a.m.

I need to make a correction - when I said "Does it consistently threaten to kill a player off/establish a threatening board between turns 5 and 8?" I meant between turns 8 and 11. The previous point was a mistake and is a speed more consistent with cEDH (bracket 5 decks) on a slower game.

February 20, 2025 12:14 p.m.

Your deck is on the Help list, and I love Slivers. So tell me, what exactly are you finding is an issue with your deck? Is it lack of consistency? Wins too often? Etc. Also, what's your budget? I can't exactly make informed recommendations if they're just too pricey. Tell me what you envision for this deck.

February 20, 2025 9:22 a.m.

lhetrick13,

I'm always a fan of Dinosaur decks and am always happy to offer my critique to try and help the deck builder's vision. I don't see any of the current Gamechangers in your list so I must ask - why do you think your deck is a bracket 4 deck? Does it fare well against Stax and Combo archetypes? Does it consistently threaten to kill a player off/establish a threatening board between turns 5 and 8? I'm not trying to say this in a mean way or anything, mostly just curious as to what kind of decks you want this list to be facing off against.

I would suggest the inclusion of some evasion for your Commander. Given the high variance of the format there will be times when Gishath won't be the biggest creature on the battlefield, and therefore won't be allowed to deal combat damage. Including old favorites such as Rogue's Passage or Whispersilk Cloak will guarantee damage and ideally more dinosaurs on your field. On that note, have you considered the relatively new Roaming Throne? It's a great option for doubling your Commander's ability triggers.

You have a cool deck, and I'd love to hear more about your games and victories. I also have my own dinosaur deck. Check it out, give it a +1 if you would feel so inclined:


The Predator of Predators

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I'm curious if you have a special dino playmat, or maybe a special deckbox to house your deck? I recently put in a commission for a deck box for my Dinos and it turned out crazy awesome. Check my deck page for more on that :)

February 20, 2025 9:19 a.m.

Ah, that makes so much more sense now, MollyMab. I remember this change! It greatly benefitted my playgroup as one of my friends had a Elenda, the Dusk Rose deck. Thanks for the clarification.

February 17, 2025 10:13 a.m.

yeaGO

I believe there's a bot loose on the site @ julietharald.

February 16, 2025 11:35 p.m.

I'm just wondering if there is a forums post already made about the new Commander Brackets Beta that was recently announced? Article and Video links are here in case anyone missed it. I'll just weigh in with my two cents - then when an Admin comes along to let me know that this is a duplicate thread i'll just post my opinion there.

I just have to get this out of my system first and foremost:

The RC hardly ever interacted with the community they supposedly represented. They didn't go to conventions to poll players on their experiences, or actively see what they could do to improve the average experience of the game. At times I viewed their opinions as reductive especially in regards to their banning of Mana Crypt:

"In games going over twelve turns, the accumulated threat of damage from Mana Crypt provides a reasonable counterbalance for its explosive effect, but when you are snowballing to a turn-six to -eight win, it's a meaningless drawback. Source

That statement alone is invalidating a whole portion of the group they supposedly represented - effectively stating that anyone who wants to play High Powered or cEDH decks just shouldn't. Not to mention the inconsistency of that logic - why not also ban Sol Ring, Dark Ritual or anything that leaves the player at a net positive for mana? Commander wouldn't be where it is today if games always had to be well beyond turn 8. At best, the RC banned a card because it was too easily abused, at worst they banned a card due to anecdotal evidence. I get that they wanted to help, but ultimately their execution left a lot to be desired.

I'm grateful for Gavin Verhey and his team starting the format down the right path. Now we as players are starting to have a common language to better understand the intent of our fellow players and craft an experience where we can all have fun. I am very optimistic for Commander's future, and will be participating in the Beta at my local venue.

Also, I think that Mana Crypt and Jeweled Lotus will likely see an unbanning in late April - early May.

What say you all?

February 12, 2025 3:18 p.m.
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