Property talk:P454

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Structurae structure ID
identifier for a building in the Structurae database
DescriptionLink to Structurae database - Structurae (Q1061861)
Applicable "stated in" valueStructurae (Q1061861)
Data typeExternal identifier
Corresponding templateTemplate:Structurae (Q10958280)
Template parameteren:Template:Structurae used in references for infoboxes
Domain
According to this template: architectural structure (Q811979)
According to statements in the property:
fixed construction (Q811430), infrastructure (Q121359) or archaeological site (Q839954)
When possible, data should only be stored as statements
Allowed values[12]\d{7}
ExampleEiffel Tower (Q243)20000021
Rockefeller Center (Q11277)10000158
SourceStructures and Large-Scale Projects
Bauwerke und Großprojekte
Ouvrages d'art et grands projets
Formatter URLhttps://structurae.net/structures/$1
https://structurae.info/ouvrages/$1
https://structurae.de/bauwerke/$1
https://structurae.net/structures/data/index.cfm?ID=$1
Tracking: sameCategory:Structurae ID same as Wikidata (Q13294008)
Tracking: differencesCategory:Structurae ID different from Wikidata (Q13294011)
Tracking: usageCategory:Pages using Wikidata property P454 (Q23909028)
Tracking: local yes, WD noCategory:Structurae ID not in Wikidata (Q13294010)
See alsoarchINFORM project ID (P5383), Structurae person ID (P2418), Emporis building ID (P455)
Lists
Proposal discussionProposal discussion
Current uses
Total24,843
Main statement24,551 out of 81,000 (30% complete)98.8% of uses
Qualifier2<0.1% of uses
Reference2901.2% of uses
Search for values
[create Create a translatable help page (preferably in English) for this property to be included here]
Single value: this property generally contains a single value. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P454#Single value, SPARQL
Distinct values: this property likely contains a value that is different from all other items. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303). Known exceptions: Paddington (Praed Street) tube station (Q3360320), Paddington (Bishop's Road) tube station (Q29378866)
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P454#Unique value, SPARQL (every item), SPARQL (by value)
Format “([12]0\d{6})|: value must be formatted using this pattern (PCRE syntax). (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P454#Format, SPARQL
Item “coordinate location (P625): Items with this property should also have “coordinate location (P625)”. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P454#Item P625, SPARQL
Item “country (P17): Items with this property should also have “country (P17)”. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P454#Item P17, search, SPARQL
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P454#Item P131, search, SPARQL
Item “instance of (P31): Items with this property should also have “instance of (P31)”. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P454#Item P31, search, SPARQL
Scope is as main value (Q54828448), as reference (Q54828450): the property must be used by specified way only (Help)
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P454#Scope, hourly updated report, SPARQL
Allowed entity types are Wikibase item (Q29934200): the property may only be used on a certain entity type (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P454#Entity types
Qualifiers “subject named as (P1810), alternative name (P4970), applies to part, aspect, or form (P518): this property should be used only with the listed qualifiers. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P454#allowed qualifiers, SPARQL

Discussion

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Restricted to "structure Structrae ID"

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I added "structure" to the property label, as there are also Structurae IDs for people, but it is one of these annoying databases where different types of items have different URL patterns. --Zolo (talk) 17:31, 22 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Format change?

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Is my observation correct, that this database changed the format of the identifiers from 's' or 'p' + 7 digits to new 8 digits? --Pasleim (talk) 11:10, 22 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, apparently. A bot should probably change that. As the older format still works at the moment, it could follow the link and grab the new idea. But from what I can see, simply replacing "s" with "2" would do the trick. ---Zolo (talk) 17:53, 22 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Pasleim, Zolo: so now we have two ID for the same notice on Structurae? It create some violations on Wikidata:Database reports/Constraint violations/P454. What should we do? Remove the s+ ID? leave the two IDs? Cdlt, VIGNERON (talk) 10:24, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
s + Id is just a redirect to the new 8 digit Id. So let's remove all s + Id if the new version is set. --Pasleim (talk) 12:36, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
webmaster@structurae.de: The IDs were changed as follows: The p = 1 , s = 2 followed by the 7 digits.

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Is Emporis building ID (P455) constraint relevant ?

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Hi,

Emporis building ID (P455) was add by Docu but I'm wondering if it's relevant or not. Right now for 1696 items with Structurae structure ID (P454) there is 1613 violations, ie. 95%!

For there, there is two possibilities :

  • few items are in Emporis
  • a lots of items are in Emporis but no one put the ID on the items

Does someone know Emporis enough to tell?

Cdlt, VIGNERON (talk) 11:12, 7 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I think Emporis mostly aims at businesses focuses on recent constructions, especially skyscrapers. Structurae contains more ancient buildings, and also infratructure projects. So I don't think the constraint is really relevant. We can probably find better ways to suggest adding missing ids. --Zolo (talk) 09:04, 29 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

URLs

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webmaster@structurae.de: The main URL for the English version of Structurae currently is http://structurae.net and no longer http://en.structurae.de. The old URLs are, however, redirected to the new ones. The site also uses semantic URLs, but the old (s/p+7 digits) and new IDs (8 digits) can still be used to create a valid link which is then redirected to the current semantic URL.

Label disambiguation

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Rather than edit-warring over the label, as User:Jura1 and I have been doing now, I should have brought the conversation here, as they first suggested. Jura1 considers that the English-language label should be "Structurae ID (structure)", including the disambiguator, whereas I contend it should be "Structurae ID", without it. My preference is based on what I've seen with other properties and in Help:Label: “labels can be ambiguous” and “disambiguation information belongs in the description”. Jura1 correctly points out, however, that Help:Label is pertinent to items not properties.

Opinions anyone? — OwenBlacker (talk; please {{ping}} me in replies) 21:07, 28 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

How do you find the structure Structrae ID?

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If you search for a structure in the database by name, e.g. "Storchenbrücke" for Storchenbrücke (Q15060163), you find the page https://structurae.net/structures/storchenbrucke. But how do you find the numeric ID required for this property? --Dipsacus fullonum (talk) 21:47, 7 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

"But how do you find the numeric ID required for this property?" → @Dipsacus fullonum, Jura1: There's a small info box on structurae web pages, search for "Structure-ID" --FoeNyx (talk) 14:09, 7 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]