Wikidata:Property proposal/Abandonware France IDs
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Abandonware-France video game ID
[edit]Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Creative work
| Description | identifier of a video game in the Abandonware France database |
|---|---|
| Represents | Abandonware France (Q16525048) |
| Data type | External identifier |
| Domain | video game (Q7889) |
| Allowed values | \d+ |
| Example 1 | Lemmings (Q864177)→5 |
| Example 2 | Mario Forever (Q4043721)→768 |
| Example 3 | Half-Life: Blue Shift (Q831796)→1148 |
| Source | https://www.abandonware-france.org/ltf_abandon/ltf_listes_jeux.php |
| External links | Use in sister projects: [ar] • [de] • [en] • [es] • [fr] • [he] • [it] • [ja] • [ko] • [nl] • [pl] • [pt] • [ru] • [sv] • [vi] • [zh] • [commons] • [species] • [wd] • [en.wikt] • [fr.wikt]. |
| Mix'n'match | 3719 |
| Number of IDs in source | 3320 |
| Expected completeness | eventually complete (Q21873974) |
| Formatter URL | https://www.abandonware-france.org/ltf_abandon/ltf_jeu.php?id=$1 |
| Applicable "stated in"-value | Abandonware France (Q16525048) |
| Single-value constraint | yes |
| Distinct-values constraint | yes |
| Wikidata project | WikiProject Video games (Q8485882) |
Motivation
[edit]Abandonware France (Q16525048) is a website in French about retrogaming (initially created as Lost Treasures Fr), and a major player in video game preservation in France (see them here invited in a symposium at the Bibliothèque nationale de France (Q193563)). Their database tracks, of course, games, 300+ already matched in Mix’n’match Jean-Fred (talk) 22:12, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
Notified participants of WikiProject Video games --Jean-Fred (talk) 22:14, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
Discussion
[edit]
Support The name abandonware is a bit misleading, as it seems to cover much more. Matthias M. (talk) 09:51, 25 December 2023 (UTC)- Support. Regards Kirilloparma (talk) 04:27, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
- Support Nicereddy (talk) 18:54, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
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Oppose Piracy site. How in the world can a game that's been on Steam for literally 20 years be considered "abandonware" by any stretch of the imagination??!--Trade (talk) 01:40, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
- The only available download for Blue Shift is the instruction manual, otherwise it appears to link to Steam to purchase it. Lewis Hulbert (talk) 02:51, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
- This site does not consider the affected game to be abandonware, ID has the ce jeux n'est pas abandonware tag line. Even if it were a piracy site, I don't see a problem, since we do have a piracy-related property Old-Games.RU ID (P10394), it has been approved and marked as Wikidata property for an identifier that does not imply notability (Q62589320). Regards Kirilloparma (talk) 05:30, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Trade: I think this is a fair concern. This is actually the reason why I held off for so long from proposing this property. What decided me was to see that the website had institutional recognition from a deeply respected and law-abiding actor like the French National Library − if they are fine with it, then I think so should we. As Lewis and Kirilloparma pointed out, Blue-Shift (which I assume is the one you had in mind) is **not** available for download, and overall the site has a strong policy of not hosting games. I really wish the website had kept its Lost Treasures Fr moniker instead of splashing 'Abandonware' in its URL, because there is really more to it than that. Jean-Fred (talk) 18:45, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
Abandonware-France video game series ID
[edit]Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Creative work
| Description | identifier of a video game series in the Abandonware France database |
|---|---|
| Represents | Abandonware France (Q16525048) |
| Data type | External identifier |
| Domain | video game series (Q7058673) |
| Allowed values | \d+ |
| Example 1 | Ultima (Q952606)→1 |
| Example 2 | Lemmings (Q18276721)→4 |
| Example 3 | Worms (Q7903060)→350 |
| Source | https://www.abandonware-france.org/jeux/sagas/ |
| External links | Use in sister projects: [ar] • [de] • [en] • [es] • [fr] • [he] • [it] • [ja] • [ko] • [nl] • [pl] • [pt] • [ru] • [sv] • [vi] • [zh] • [commons] • [species] • [wd] • [en.wikt] • [fr.wikt]. |
| Mix'n'match | 3720 |
| Number of IDs in source | 522 |
| Expected completeness | eventually complete (Q21873974) |
| Formatter URL | https://www.abandonware-france.org/jeux/sagas/$1/ |
| Applicable "stated in"-value | Abandonware France (Q16525048) |
| Single-value constraint | yes |
| Distinct-values constraint | yes |
| Wikidata project | WikiProject Video games (Q8485882) |
Motivation
[edit]Abandonware France (Q16525048) also tracks video game series, 150+ matches in Mix’n’match. Jean-Fred (talk) 22:12, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
Discussion
[edit]- Support Matthias M. (talk) 09:51, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
- Support. Regards Kirilloparma (talk) 04:27, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
- Support Nicereddy (talk) 18:54, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
Abandonware-France video game compilation ID
[edit]Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Creative work
| Description | identifier of a video game compilation in the Abandonware France database |
|---|---|
| Represents | Abandonware France (Q16525048) |
| Data type | External identifier |
| Domain | video game compilation (Q16070115) |
| Allowed values | \d+ |
| Example 1 | The Lost Treasures of Infocom (Q7748761)→301 |
| Example 2 | Wing Commander: The Kilrathi Saga (Q123697478)→234 |
| Example 3 | The Roberta Williams Anthology (Q2413943)→211 |
| Source | https://www.abandonware-france.org/ltf_abandon/ltf_listes_compilations.php |
| External links | Use in sister projects: [ar] • [de] • [en] • [es] • [fr] • [he] • [it] • [ja] • [ko] • [nl] • [pl] • [pt] • [ru] • [sv] • [vi] • [zh] • [commons] • [species] • [wd] • [en.wikt] • [fr.wikt]. |
| Mix'n'match | 3719 |
| Number of IDs in source | 849 |
| Expected completeness | eventually complete (Q21873974) |
| Formatter URL | https://www.abandonware-france.org/ltf_abandon/ltf_compilation.php?id=$1 |
| Applicable "stated in"-value | Abandonware France (Q16525048) |
| Single-value constraint | yes |
| Distinct-values constraint | yes |
| Wikidata project | WikiProject Video games (Q8485882) |
Motivation
[edit]Abandonware France (Q16525048) also tracks video game compilations as a separate first-class entity. Jean-Fred (talk) 22:12, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
Discussion
[edit]- Support Matthias M. (talk) 09:51, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
- Support. Regards Kirilloparma (talk) 04:27, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
Abandonware-France person ID
[edit]Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Creative work
| Description | identifier of a person in the Abandonware France database |
|---|---|
| Represents | Abandonware France (Q16525048) |
| Data type | External identifier |
| Domain | human (Q5) |
| Allowed values | \d+ |
| Example 1 | Yaël Barroz (Q90906378)→369 |
| Example 2 | David Bowie (Q5383)→1 |
| Example 3 | Chris Hülsbeck (Q64712)→2634 |
| Source | https://www.abandonware-france.org/personnalites/ |
| External links | Use in sister projects: [ar] • [de] • [en] • [es] • [fr] • [he] • [it] • [ja] • [ko] • [nl] • [pl] • [pt] • [ru] • [sv] • [vi] • [zh] • [commons] • [species] • [wd] • [en.wikt] • [fr.wikt]. |
| Mix'n'match | 3724 |
| Number of IDs in source | 41096 |
| Expected completeness | eventually complete (Q21873974) |
| Formatter URL | https://www.abandonware-france.org/personnalites/$1/ |
| Applicable "stated in"-value | Abandonware France (Q16525048) |
| Single-value constraint | yes |
| Distinct-values constraint | yes |
| Wikidata project | WikiProject Video games (Q8485882) |
Motivation
[edit]Abandonware France (Q16525048) also tracks people involved with video games. Jean-Fred (talk) 22:12, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
Discussion
[edit]- Support Matthias M. (talk) 09:51, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
- Support. Regards Kirilloparma (talk) 04:27, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
Abandonware-France company ID
[edit]Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Creative work
| Description | identifier of a video game company in the Abandonware France database |
|---|---|
| Represents | Abandonware France (Q16525048) |
| Data type | External identifier |
| Domain | organization (Q43229) |
| Allowed values | \d+ |
| Example 1 | Infogrames (Q1782700)→1 |
| Example 2 | Heavy Iron Studios (Q655656)→99 |
| Example 3 | Vicarious Visions (Q1947354)→142 |
| Source | https://www.abandonware-france.org/compagnies/ |
| External links | Use in sister projects: [ar] • [de] • [en] • [es] • [fr] • [he] • [it] • [ja] • [ko] • [nl] • [pl] • [pt] • [ru] • [sv] • [vi] • [zh] • [commons] • [species] • [wd] • [en.wikt] • [fr.wikt]. |
| Mix'n'match | 5936 |
| Number of IDs in source | 2459 |
| Expected completeness | eventually complete (Q21873974) |
| Formatter URL | https://www.abandonware-france.org/compagnies/$1/ |
| Applicable "stated in"-value | Abandonware France (Q16525048) |
| Single-value constraint | yes |
| Distinct-values constraint | yes |
| Wikidata project | WikiProject Video games (Q8485882) |
Motivation
[edit]as well as companies involved with video games. Jean-Fred (talk) 22:12, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
Discussion
[edit]- Support Matthias M. (talk) 09:51, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
- Support. Regards Kirilloparma (talk) 04:27, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
Abandonware-France magazine ID
[edit]Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Creative work
| Description | identifier of a video game magazine in the Abandonware France database |
|---|---|
| Represents | Abandonware France (Q16525048) |
| Data type | External identifier |
| Domain | periodical (Q1002697) |
| Allowed values | \d+ |
| Example 1 | Amiga Games (Q471168)→140 |
| Example 2 | Amiga Joker (Q471174)→27 |
| Example 3 | Tilt (Q3528553)→1 |
| Source | https://www.abandonware-france.org/bibliotheque/magazines/ |
| External links | Use in sister projects: [ar] • [de] • [en] • [es] • [fr] • [he] • [it] • [ja] • [ko] • [nl] • [pl] • [pt] • [ru] • [sv] • [vi] • [zh] • [commons] • [species] • [wd] • [en.wikt] • [fr.wikt]. |
| Mix'n'match | 5937 |
| Number of IDs in source | 143 |
| Expected completeness | eventually complete (Q21873974) |
| Formatter URL | https://www.abandonware-france.org/bibliotheque/magazines/$1/ |
| Applicable "stated in"-value | Abandonware France (Q16525048) |
| Single-value constraint | yes |
| Distinct-values constraint | yes |
| Wikidata project | WikiProject Video games (Q8485882) |
Motivation
[edit]Abandonware France (Q16525048) is also a library, indexing video game magazines. Jean-Fred (talk) 22:12, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
Discussion
[edit]- Support Matthias M. (talk) 09:51, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
- Support. Regards Kirilloparma (talk) 04:27, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
Abandonware-France book ID
[edit]Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Creative work
| Description | identifier of a book in the Abandonware France database |
|---|---|
| Represents | Abandonware France (Q16525048) |
| Data type | External identifier |
| Domain | written work (Q47461344) |
| Allowed values | \d+ |
| Example 1 | Q113711553→618 |
| Example 2 | Replay: The History of Video Games (Q24038031)→1718 |
| Example 3 | Une histoire du jeu vidéo en France : 1960-1991 : des labos aux chambres d'ados (Q101510665)→1648 |
| Source | https://www.abandonware-france.org/bibliotheque/livres/ |
| External links | Use in sister projects: [ar] • [de] • [en] • [es] • [fr] • [he] • [it] • [ja] • [ko] • [nl] • [pl] • [pt] • [ru] • [sv] • [vi] • [zh] • [commons] • [species] • [wd] • [en.wikt] • [fr.wikt]. |
| Number of IDs in source | 4626 |
| Expected completeness | always incomplete (Q21873886) |
| Formatter URL | https://www.abandonware-france.org/bibliotheque/livres/$1/ |
| Applicable "stated in"-value | Abandonware France (Q16525048) |
| Single-value constraint | yes |
| Distinct-values constraint | yes |
| Wikidata project | WikiProject Video games (Q8485882) |
Motivation
[edit]Abandonware France (Q16525048) is also a library, indexing books about video games. Jean-Fred (talk) 22:12, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
Discussion
[edit]- Support. Regards Kirilloparma (talk) 04:27, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
- Support --Lewis Hulbert (talk) 23:41, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
Abandonware-France award ID
[edit]Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Creative work
| Description | identifier of a video game award in the Abandonware France database |
|---|---|
| Represents | Abandonware France (Q16525048) |
| Data type | External identifier |
| Domain | video game award (Q18328126) |
| Allowed values | \d+ |
| Example 1 | Tilt d'or (Q3528557)→1 |
| Example 2 | Golden Joystick Awards (Q2627776)→6 |
| Example 3 | 4 d'or (Q123996804)→3 |
| Source | https://www.abandonware-france.org/bibliotheque/magazines/recompenses |
| External links | Use in sister projects: [ar] • [de] • [en] • [es] • [fr] • [he] • [it] • [ja] • [ko] • [nl] • [pl] • [pt] • [ru] • [sv] • [vi] • [zh] • [commons] • [species] • [wd] • [en.wikt] • [fr.wikt]. |
| Expected completeness | always incomplete (Q21873886) |
| Formatter URL | https://www.abandonware-france.org/bibliotheque/magazines/recompenses/$1/ |
| Applicable "stated in"-value | Abandonware France (Q16525048) |
| Single-value constraint | yes |
| Distinct-values constraint | yes |
| Wikidata project | WikiProject Video games (Q8485882) |
Motivation
[edit]Abandonware France (Q16525048) is also a library, indexing video game magazines, and also the awards they conferred. (This is probably the weakest ID per the limited number of entries, but we have few identifiers for awards, so I think it’s still worth it). Jean-Fred (talk) 22:12, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
Discussion
[edit]- Support Matthias M. (talk) 09:51, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
- Support. Regards Kirilloparma (talk) 04:27, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Jean-Frédéric, Matthias M., Nicereddy:
Done: Abandonware-France game series ID (P12257), Abandonware-France game compilation ID (P12258), Abandonware-France person ID (P12259), Abandonware-France company ID (P12260), Abandonware-France magazine ID (P12261) and Abandonware-France award ID (P12262). Regarding the remaining two proposals:
- Abandonware-France book ID has so far received my only vote and cannot yet be created (see WD:PCC, criterion #3)
- Abandonware-France video game ID still needs to be discussed because of some objections raised.
- These were the very last video game-related properties of this year. Happy New Year everyone and see you soon in the new year with new properties and more to come :) Regards Kirilloparma (talk) 18:30, 31 December 2023 (UTC)