Wikidata:Property proposal/Magyar írók élete és munkái ID

Magyar írók élete és munkái ID

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Authority control

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Description	identifier for a person in the biographical dictionary Life and works of Hungarian writers
Represents	Life and works of Hungarian writers (Q54805703)
Data type	External identifier
Domain	human (Q5)
Allowed values	[a-z][ez]?\/[a-z][ez]?\d{5}
Example 1	Ferenc Ábel (Q282996) → a/a00015
Example 2	Bálint Ökröss (Q1472107) → oe/oe18608
Example 3	Dávid Szabó (Q20437534) → sz/sz25240
Source	https://mek.oszk.hu/03600/03630/html/
External links	Use in sister projects: [ar] • [de] • [en] • [es] • [fr] • [he] • [it] • [ja] • [ko] • [nl] • [pl] • [pt] • [ru] • [sv] • [vi] • [zh] • [commons] • [species] • [wd] • [en.wikt] • [fr.wikt].
Planned use	Mix'n'match
Number of IDs in source	31376
Expected completeness	eventually complete (Q21873974)
Formatter URL	https://mek.oszk.hu/03600/03630/html/$1.htm
Applicable "stated in"-value	Life and works of Hungarian writers (Q54805703)
Single-value constraint	yes
Distinct-values constraint	yes
Wikidata project	Hungary

Motivation

--Meskobalazs (talk) 15:45, 22 April 2017 (UTC) --Tobias1984 (talk) 15:51, 22 April 2017 (UTC) Samat (talk) 18:08, 25 April 2017 (UTC) tdombos (talk) 16:19, 13 August 2019 (UTC) Pallor (talk) 10:20, 22 December 2019 (UTC) Tacsipacsi (talk) 23:03, 14 October 2020 (UTC) LaMèreVeille. January 2021

Notified participants of WikiProject Hungary Authoritative source regarding Hungarian literature. Epìdosis 21:41, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

Discussion

•  Support —Eihel (talk) 23:18, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for the notification! I do not suggest telling you why: this book was published a very long time ago, more than a hundred years ago, very very outdated, it contains a lot of erroneous data. A lot of data has since been corrected in publications that appeared later. However, the content of the book is included in other Hungarian databases: in the Magyar Nemzeti Névtér (Hungarian National Namespace - HNN) the descriptions have been republished and - unfortunately - all the outdated data. The database of the (Petőfi Irodalmi Múzeum (Petőfi Literary Museum - PIM) contains this information without text, but with corrected biographical data. Both databases are already present on Wikidata with a unique ID (PIM authority ID (P3973), Hungarian National Namespace person ID (old) (P6988)). That is, each item that appeared in the book is also included in two other databases: one with no change (HNN), and the other with data that has been updated most often.

The texts are in Hungarian, but it can be compared that the same thing appeared literally in the other database. (Compare what is in the HNN database and what is in the book!)

• Ferenc Ábel: Ferenc Ábel (Q282996) HNN person ID: 330343, PIM authority ID: PIM41729
• Bálint Ökröss: Bálint Ökröss (Q1472107) HNN person ID: 267941, PIM authority ID: PIM94862
• Dávid Szabó: Dávid Szabó (Q20437534) HNN person ID: 349749, PIM authority ID: PIM70683

Palotabarát (talk) 17:13, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

@Palotabarát: Thank you for the very detailed information! Given the fact that the advantage of the public domain is counterbalanced by the presence of much outdated data and by the repurposing of correct information in the new databases already having a property, I think I can retire the proposal, if you agree. Thank you again, --Epìdosis 20:47, 3 August 2021 (UTC)