Wikidata:Property proposal/section number

section (or heat) number

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Sports

   Done: section number (P5474) (Talk and documentation)

Description	number assigned to a section of sportspeople in a sporting competition
Represents	section number (Q55279456)
Data type	Quantity
Domain	to be used in athletics performance participant in (P1344) claims on people with occupation (P106) subclass of athletics competitor (Q11513337), and also in meet result participant (P710) claims that are instance of (P31) athletics meeting (Q11783626) (or subclass)
Example 1	as a qualifier for Usain Bolt (Q1189)'s participant in (P1344) claim with target athletics at the 2016 Summer Olympics – men's 100 metres (Q25397537) and qualifier stage reached (P2443) = semi-final (Q599999) → 2
Example 2	as a qualifier for athletics at the 2016 Summer Olympics – men's 100 metres (Q25397537)'s participant (P710) claim with target Usain Bolt (Q1189) and qualifier stage reached (P2443) = semi-final (Q599999) → 2
Example 3	as a qualifier for Christoph Harting (Q11690237)'s participant in (P1344) claim with target athletics at the 2016 Summer Olympics – men's discus throw (Q26214545) and qualifier stage reached (P2443) = qualification event (Q2122052) → 2
Example 4	as a qualifier for athletics at the 2016 Summer Olympics – men's discus throw (Q26214545)'s participant (P710) claim with target Christoph Harting (Q11690237) and qualifier stage reached (P2443) = qualification event (Q2122052) → 2
Planned use	This property will be used by WikiTrackBot (RFP) in adding athletics results to Wikidata. Every non-final (and multi-heat final (Q54967487)) performance can potentially have a section number as a qualifier.
See also	stage reached (P2443)

Motivation

Knowing heat numbers is important, because qualification to the next round is almost always based at least in part on placing in a specific heat. stage reached (P2443) is currently used to indicate the round (i.e. quarterfinals, semifinals, finals), but Wikidata lacks a numerical datatype to indicate the number in a specific round. Making hundreds of items like "Semifinal 1", "Semifinal 2", ... to be used with stage reached (P2443) doesn't really make sense and would make queries much hHabstarder.

Properties like series ordinal (P1545) can't be used for this, because heat numbers will often be used as a qualifier in an athletics performance (for example in a participant in (P1344) claim) where using series ordinal (P1545) would be confused with the final placing of the athlete (we have ranking (P1352) for that, but it would still be unintuitive to associate "series ordinal" with "section number" especially if ranking (P1352) is missing) rather than the heat number.

Thanks, Habst (talk) 05:51, 30 June 2018 (UTC)

Discussion

Yiyi
Kasper2006
Habst
SFB
Sakhalinio
Сидик из ПТУ
Erokhin

Notified participants of WikiProject Athletics. Habst (talk) 05:57, 30 June 2018 (UTC)

•  Support as nominator. --Habst (talk) 05:57, 30 June 2018 (UTC)
•  Support David (talk) 09:29, 30 June 2018 (UTC)
•  Support Common aspect of many tournament types. Sillyfolkboy (talk) 21:44, 30 June 2018 (UTC)
•  Support --Yiyi .... (talk!) 11:18, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
•  Support I guess this would probaly work for Short track speed skating and Roller speed skating as well. But are there any wikiprojects for those sports here ? Migrant (talk) 13:03, 15 July 2018 (UTC)
• @Habst: the description is too long (max 250 characters), please keep in mind that this description is meant to disambiguate the property from others with a very concise description of its meaning. Marking as not ready, feel free to add the ready flag back once the description has been adapted. − Pintoch (talk) 08:19, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
  • @Pintoch: Thanks, my mistake as I didn't realize that description would be used verbatim. Fixed and marked as ready. --Habst (talk) 22:14, 17 July 2018 (UTC)

@ديفيد عادل وهبة خليل 2, Yiyi, Migrant, Habst, Pintoch, Sillyfolkboy:  Done: section number (P5474). − Pintoch (talk) 07:27, 18 July 2018 (UTC)