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Shouldn't be there be separate a criticism section for the ballistic missile defense system. Like how some ballistic missile can't distinguish between dummy and real missile? There are other defects also, so I was thinking that there should be a separate criticism section for the ballistic missiles. [[User:7Achilles7|7Achilles7]] ([[User talk:7Achilles7|talk]]) 16:25, 8 November 2018 (UTC) |
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Why is it a "Missile Defence" that mean its aimed to defend the missiles and not against them? The same thing is why using the "Aircraft Defence" for a [[counter-air defence|counter-Air Defence]] (the Air mean type of armed forces) would be wrong and Air Defence (the Air mean area/territory) are correct to some level. |
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[[User:Ilias48rus|Ilias48rus]] ([[User talk:Ilias48rus|talk]]) 18:20, 20 June 2019 (UTC) |
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:The "Missile Defence " can also mean a defence against something, that use missiles, in this case the 1st sentence in the Article's description are wrong. |
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[edit]There seems to be some inconsistencies in regards to the way 'defense' is spelled, either being spelled the American way "Defense" or the original way "Defence". Perhaps someone could choose one, and stick to that particular choice.
U.S. missiels in Europe
[edit]Maybe some mention of this new fiasco with the U.S. putting more missiles into Europe?
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[edit]I made multiple changes to improve completeness and accuracy. Any issues or questions, please discuss here. Joema 15:20, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
Missile Defense & Anti-ballistic missile merge
[edit]These two topics sseem to overlap significantly as the missile defense article generally describes the history of ICBM intercepts. Certainly, there is the possibility of expanding missile defense to include the airborne laser and sea-launched midcourse, but current emphasis on ICBM suggest significant merging.
- I disagree with the idea of merging entirely and at the same time think this article is misdirected. The term missile defence is much broader then what is implied here. On the base level of it, medieval armour could be considered 'missile defence' and using the definition of a self propelled missile you could still include it if you remember that the Chinese have used military rockets for 700 years. By WW2 Britain was attempting AND shooting down incoming rockets before they reached their intended targets. In the 1970's Russia began experimentation with shooting down man portable missiles and deployed successful systems in the Afghanistan war.--Senor Freebie (talk) 00:35, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
Lasers
[edit]"However non-missile defenses such as lasers will be operational within about two years." - This needs a source and a date. It's intriguing if it's true. 151.203.178.253 00:54, 13 July 2006 (UTC)John S.
- Initially the Boeing YAL-1 was planned to be operational by around 2008, but it has recently been delayed due to development difficulties. Revised wording to reflect this. Joema 14:33, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
History
[edit]Paragraph 2 introduces the concept "Hit-a-bullet-with-a-bullet" for the first time. This concept is fist explained in para 3 as "Hit-to-kill". Would make sence to bring the para 3 info forward to para 2 and given the significance of the phrase "hit-to-kill" maybe give it its own page. "Hit-to-kill" is not necessarily self describing. When I first read it I presumed the concept was one of a ratio number of hits to number of lethal hits. MalFarrelle 13:34, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
Balloon Decoys
[edit]"endoatmospheric intercept means balloon-type decoys won't work." - Why? MalFarrelle 13:28, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
Criticism of the concept itself
[edit]I think it should certainly be mentioned that large parts of the informed scientists and publics disaree with the very idea of missile defense. After all, with the thousands of deployed warheads of both the US and russia, any attempt at defense would be futile, and also smaller states could easily get through such a defense system. You need at least 2, if not 4, interceptors for each incoming missiles, the balloon thing and various other systems make it highly unlikely that such an interception would be successful, not to speak of virtually unhaltable MIRV-systems...the stratospheric costs of such projects, the focus on defense rather than the officially stated goal of disarmament, the irritation of Russia (which, in light of the futility of the defensive potential rather suspects an intended upgrade of offensive capabilities) and the damage done to the deterrence concept of Mutually Assured destruction (MAD) are considerable cons. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lhoaxt (talk • contribs) 13:38, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
Non-ballistic missiles
[edit]Should there be some mention of defenses against missiles other than ballistic missiles (example: close-in weapon systems aboard ships for defense against anti-ship missiles)? --Whoop whoop pull up Bitching Betty | Averted crashes 18:01, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
Russian Navy
[edit]Where the fnord does this go?
http://www.globalsecurity.org/space/library/news/2011/space-110922-rianovosti02.htm
The fiction section? Hcobb (talk) 02:53, 23 September 2011 (UTC)
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[edit]Shouldn't be there be separate a criticism section for the ballistic missile defense system. Like how some ballistic missile can't distinguish between dummy and real missile? There are other defects also, so I was thinking that there should be a separate criticism section for the ballistic missiles. 7Achilles7 (talk) 16:25, 8 November 2018 (UTC)
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[edit]Why is it a "Missile Defence" that mean its aimed to defend the missiles and not against them? The same thing is why using the "Aircraft Defence" for a counter-Air Defence (the Air mean type of armed forces) would be wrong and Air Defence (the Air mean area/territory) are correct to some level.
Ilias48rus (talk) 18:20, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
- The "Missile Defence " can also mean a defence against something, that use missiles, in this case the 1st sentence in the Article's description are wrong.
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