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== Quarters of centers of a district and the district itself; the confusion and how do we fix it? == |
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Merhabalar, |
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What I'm trying to say is that just like provinces, almost all districts in Turkey are named after their historical, central cities. For provinces, we seperate these two (ex. [[Çanakkale]] and [[Çanakkale Province]]) but for districts, both are merged into the same page. This issue has already been discussed in various talk pages of said articles. You'd think it is easy to fix this, just create a seperate page for the central quarter. Yes, though it is hard to create a seperate page for every district. My proposal is to create such pages only for very important districts of Turkey (such as [[Fatih]], [[Beyoğlu]], [[Beşiktaş]], [[Şişli]], [[Üsküdar]], [[Kadıköy]], [[Maltepe]], [[Beykoz]], etc.). This is a very difficult mission, but if multiple people work together, I'm sure we can solve this problem. What do you think? [[User:Youprayteas|Youprayteas]] [[User talk:Youprayteas|<sup>talk</sup>]]<sup>/</sup>[[Special:Contributions/Youprayteas|<sup>contribs</sup>]] 18:22, 10 March 2024 (UTC) |
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As you probably know you can see a list of articles without any cites at all by clicking “A list of articles needing cleanup associated with this project” at the bottom right of the project page and then scrolling down and clicking “Cites no sources”. I think these uncited articles drag down the reputation of this project and maybe its other articles. |
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:Hi, this is an interesting idea, but with some practical problems. Unlike the Çanakkale example, there is no administrative unit "Üsküdar" apart from the district and municipality "Üsküdar". You may ask yourself what you would write in an article about the city centre of Üsküdar that would not fit in an article about the municipality. There are some exceptions, for instance there is a neighbourhood (''mahalle'') inside [[Beykoz]] district/municipality that is called [[Merkez, Beykoz|Merkez]] (or "Beykoz Merkez"), perhaps some of the information that is specifically about the centre of Beykoz could go there. [[User:Markussep|Markussep]] <sup>[[User talk:Markussep|Talk]]</sup> 08:57, 11 March 2024 (UTC) |
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::I have some comments. |
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::1. Going with the current example, [[Çanakkale]] is the seat of the [[Çanakkale Province]] it is not, in itself, a municipality. The municipality for the city of Çanakkale is the [[Çanakkale District]] (for metropolitan municipalities the center city is divided into many districts, in that case each rule different areas of the central city.) |
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::2. Not every district has a central neighbourhood, a lot of them have their centre divided too, even if they do have one, it might include a bigger or smaller area than the city itself. |
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::3. It doesn’t actually matter if there is a municipality or not for the page created, for example [[Moda, Kadıköy]] is not a province, district, municipality, village or neighborhood but the page still exists because the settlement area exists. [[User:Youprayteas|Youprayteas]] [[User talk:Youprayteas|<sup>talk</sup>]]<sup>/</sup>[[Special:Contributions/Youprayteas|<sup>contribs</sup>]] 13:08, 11 March 2024 (UTC) |
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:::Actually there is a difference between Çanakkale District and the municipality of Çanakkale, since Çanakkale Province is not a metropolitan province. Therefore we have separate articles for the district and the town/municipality. I agree with your points 2 and 3. But what would you write in an article about the locality Maltepe, that would not be duplicating information that belongs in the article about the district/municipality of Maltepe? [[User:Markussep|Markussep]] <sup>[[User talk:Markussep|Talk]]</sup> 08:21, 13 March 2024 (UTC) |
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::::The thing is that yes, it’s true, everything would be the same, but the district page would be mainly about the admisitrative unit and not the settlements in it, and the district articles would be cut significantly. If you say this is a loss of enclopeadic information, I say no because everything that is mentioned in the district page about settlements other than Kadıköy are already written in a more detailed manner in their seperate pages. [[User:Youprayteas|Youprayteas]] [[User talk:Youprayteas|<sup>talk</sup>]]<sup>/</sup>[[Special:Contributions/Youprayteas|<sup>contribs</sup>]] 13:19, 13 March 2024 (UTC) |
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A few weeks ago there were over 300. I have cited a few and nominated many for deletion but, as you will be able to see after the weekly bot runs tomorrow, many remain. I have also redirected some of the uncited Dam articles to the list of dams. |
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== Anyone like to work together on [[Seismic retrofit]]? == |
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Some other people such as {{ping|TheJoyfulTentmaker}} and {{ping|Iffy}} have also cited articles and saved them from deletion. If anyone could continue redirecting dams and cite any articles worth keeping that would be great. Particularly sports, music and films as I am not very interested in them. |
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Merhaba, |
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Saygılar [[User:Chidgk1|Chidgk1]] ([[User talk:Chidgk1|talk]]) 10:39, 16 September 2024 (UTC) |
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I just added this project to [[Seismic retrofit]] and rated it high importance. I see it has not yet been translated into Turkish. Is there a native Turkish speaker who would like to work together on improving the English article and later translating it? |
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:Thanks for taking a constructive and collaborative approach to these issues. I have little knowledge of Turkey and Turkish sources so cannot help much here outside of the tennis area. Most articles have an intersection of topics with WikiProjects who have an interest in the subject matter, for cultural topics such as sports, music and film, see [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Directory/Culture]] for a list of groups who may be able to help. [[User:Iffy|Iffy]]★[[User Talk:Iffy|Chat]] -- 13:42, 16 September 2024 (UTC) |
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It seems to me that might save lives in future, but I don’t have enough Turkish or enough stamina to attempt it by myself. [[User:Chidgk1|Chidgk1]] ([[User talk:Chidgk1|talk]]) 06:28, 6 April 2024 (UTC) |
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== Afd == |
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Or [[Urban seismic risk]] is a much smaller article - come on guys don’t you think this is important? [[User:Chidgk1|Chidgk1]] ([[User talk:Chidgk1|talk]]) 06:27, 7 April 2024 (UTC) |
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An editor has listed the article [[Boğaziçi (Istanbul)|Boğaziçi]] for deletion. It would be great if someone from here(ideally from Istanbul) goes and checks if the article is notable enough for inclusion. '''[[User:TNM101|<span style="color:red;">TNM</span><span style="color:black;">101</span>]]''' ([[User talk:TNM101|<span style="color:blue;">chat</span>]]) 15:44, 8 October 2024 (UTC) |
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:I may contribute to it, but will be limited until end of May with this [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:The_Core_Contest/Entries#Turkey]. A lot of translations into Turkish in Turkish Wikpedia seems to be done by bots, that'd be a good starting point. [[User:Bogazicili|Bogazicili]] ([[User talk:Bogazicili|talk]]) 18:35, 7 April 2024 (UTC) |
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== Is [[Haykakan Par]] the same place as [[Aras Mountains]]? == |
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== Ispanaklı kek == |
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Please don’t reply here but at [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Haykakan Par]] [[User:Chidgk1|Chidgk1]] ([[User talk:Chidgk1|talk]]) 19:03, 12 October 2024 (UTC) |
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== [[Karima Gouit]] == |
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:Not really mate, you can nominate it for deletion. [[User:Youprayteas|Youprayteas]] [[User talk:Youprayteas|<sup>talk</sup>]]<sup>/</sup>[[Special:Contributions/Youprayteas|<sup>contribs</sup>]] 06:30, 22 April 2024 (UTC) |
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Deletion discussion at [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Karima Gouit]]. There may be [[WP:GNG]]/[[WP:RS]]-good sources in Turkish, so if you can find some, or conclude there are none, please join the afd. [[User:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|Gråbergs Gråa Sång]] ([[User talk:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|talk]]) 05:46, 16 October 2024 (UTC) |
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:Thank you for the note! I found two sources from the Turkish media and shared in the AfD. [[User:TheJoyfulTentmaker|TheJoyfulTentmaker]] ([[User talk:TheJoyfulTentmaker|talk]]) 06:08, 16 October 2024 (UTC) |
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::Thank ''you''. [[User:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|Gråbergs Gråa Sång]] ([[User talk:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|talk]]) 06:09, 16 October 2024 (UTC) |
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== Requested move at [[Talk:Turkish Women's Football Super League#Requested move 8 October 2024]] == |
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[[File:Information.svg|30px|left]] There is a requested move discussion at [[Talk:Turkish Women's Football Super League#Requested move 8 October 2024]] that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:#800080;">[[User:SafariScribe|Safari Scribe]]</span><sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">[[Special:Contributions/SafariScribe|'''''Edits!''''']] [[User talk:SafariScribe|'''''Talk!''''']]</sup> 05:53, 16 October 2024 (UTC) |
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== It takes more than one person to make a project == |
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== Requested move at [[Talk:Tahir Pasha (governor)#Requested move 9 May 2024]] == |
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[[File:Information.svg|30px|left]] There is a requested move discussion at [[Talk:Tahir Pasha (governor)#Requested move 9 May 2024]] that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. [[User:Wikiexplorationandhelping|Wikiexplorationandhelping]] ([[User talk:Wikiexplorationandhelping|talk]]) 05:12, 12 May 2024 (UTC) |
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Is anyone else here apart from @[[User:TheJoyfulTentmaker|TheJoyfulTentmaker]]? If not I will mark the project inactive and stop spending time asking questions here. [[User:Chidgk1|Chidgk1]] ([[User talk:Chidgk1|talk]]) 10:09, 25 October 2024 (UTC) |
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== The [[Varlık Vergisi]] article seems to be written in a biased tone == |
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:What do you mean by "here"? I have the project on my watchlist and occasionally answer questions, but for instance I do not speak Turkish. [[User:Ymblanter|Ymblanter]] ([[User talk:Ymblanter|talk]]) 10:52, 25 October 2024 (UTC) |
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I came across this article and while I was reading it, it really sounded like someone who has bias against Turks wrote it. I don't know about the information, but the tone is definitely unneutral. [[User:Youprayteas|Youprayteas]] [[User talk:Youprayteas|<sup>talk</sup>]]<sup>/</sup>[[Special:Contributions/Youprayteas|<sup>contribs</sup>]] 18:32, 12 May 2024 (UTC) |
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::I'm here yes, but I'm more interested in vital articles, or core articles of this project. Do not mark this project inactive. [[User:Bogazicili|Bogazicili]] ([[User talk:Bogazicili|talk]]) 14:41, 25 October 2024 (UTC) |
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==Merger discussion for [[Yüksek Hızlı Tren]]== |
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:Please fix it with [[WP:RS]] in line with [[WP:NPOV]]. Wikipedia does have systemic bias. See: [[Wikipedia:Systemic bias]]. [[User:Bogazicili|Bogazicili]] ([[User talk:Bogazicili|talk]]) 18:58, 12 May 2024 (UTC) |
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[[File:Merge-arrows.svg|50px|frameless]] An article that you have been involved in editing—[[Yüksek Hızlı Tren]]—has been '''proposed for [[Wikipedia:Merging|merging]]''' with another article. If you are interested, please participate in [[Talk:Turkish State Railways Transport#Merge proposal|the merger discussion]]. Thank you. [[User:Chidgk1|Chidgk1]] ([[User talk:Chidgk1|talk]]) 10:10, 25 October 2024 (UTC) |
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==Merger discussion for [[Yüksek Hızlı Tren]]== |
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== [[WP:DCWC|Developing Countries WikiContest]] == |
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This is a different proposal to the above. I hope more people might comment. {{ping|Ymblanter}} and any lurkers here - despite the title no Turkish is needed and indeed these trains are useful to many foreign tourists as well as important for helping the unity of the country in my opinion. {{ping|Bogazicili}} although obvious less important than the [[Turkey]] article you are working hard on, I believe these trains will continually become more useful to the country, as roads fill up with traffic and flying internally between big Turkish cities becomes more expensive with carbon taxes. So it is important for people to properly understand them I think. |
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[[File:Merge-arrows.svg|50px|frameless]] An article that you have been involved in editing—[[Yüksek Hızlı Tren]]—has been '''proposed for [[Wikipedia:Merging|merging]]''' with another article. If you are interested, please participate in [[Talk:High-speed_rail_in_Turkey#Merge_Y%C3%BCksek_H%C4%B1zl%C4%B1_Tren_(2nd_proposal)|the merger discussion]]. Thank you. [[User:Chidgk1|Chidgk1]] ([[User talk:Chidgk1|talk]]) 07:08, 31 October 2024 (UTC) |
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Starting this July, we will see a new contest on the scene - the Developing Countries WikiContest ([[WP:DCWC]])! Think of it as a [[WP:CUP|WikiCup]] but only for articles and media on developing countries. |
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Competitors may submit [[WP:GA|GA]]s, [[WP:GT|GT]]s, [[WP:FA|FA]]s, [[WP:FT|FT]]s, [[WP:FL|FL]]s, [[WP:FP|FP]]s, and [[WP:DYK|DYK]] and [[WP:ITN|ITN]] entries from/on developing countries to gain points and climb the leaderboard. Points are also awarded to those who review GAs, FAs and FLs. |
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Turkey is listed as a developing country for the purposes of this contest and articles related to it are eligible to be submitted for points, so I encourage everyone here to sign up and compete with editors from around the world to create high-quality content! |
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Append your name to the [[WP:2024 Developing Countries WikiContest/Signups|DCWC signup page]] today! |
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Best wishes, [[User:Wilhelm Tell DCCXLVI|Wilhelm Tell DCCXLVI]] (<small><sup>[[User talk:Wilhelm Tell DCCXLVI|talk to me!]]</sup>/<sub>[[Special:contributions/Wilhelm Tell DCCXLVI|my edits]]</sub></small>) 07:22, 19 May 2024 (UTC) |
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== Change picture request == |
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I would like to suggest the change of the picture of [[Aytaç Şaşmaz]] as it is not a true and actual representation of his image. [[Special:Contributions/176.205.44.112|176.205.44.112]] ([[User talk:176.205.44.112|talk]]) 08:03, 25 May 2024 (UTC) |
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== Help/feedback with an article? == |
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Hello, I have been working on an article that involves Turkey. However, I do not speak Turkish and don't know where to begin with Turkish-language sources. Is there someone here who would be able and willing to help me on expanding the article? [[User:Pietrus1|Pietrus1]] ([[User talk:Pietrus1|talk]]) 18:44, 25 May 2024 (UTC) |
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Articles without any cites at all
[edit]Merhabalar,
As you probably know you can see a list of articles without any cites at all by clicking “A list of articles needing cleanup associated with this project” at the bottom right of the project page and then scrolling down and clicking “Cites no sources”. I think these uncited articles drag down the reputation of this project and maybe its other articles.
A few weeks ago there were over 300. I have cited a few and nominated many for deletion but, as you will be able to see after the weekly bot runs tomorrow, many remain. I have also redirected some of the uncited Dam articles to the list of dams.
Some other people such as @TheJoyfulTentmaker: and @Iffy: have also cited articles and saved them from deletion. If anyone could continue redirecting dams and cite any articles worth keeping that would be great. Particularly sports, music and films as I am not very interested in them.
Saygılar Chidgk1 (talk) 10:39, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for taking a constructive and collaborative approach to these issues. I have little knowledge of Turkey and Turkish sources so cannot help much here outside of the tennis area. Most articles have an intersection of topics with WikiProjects who have an interest in the subject matter, for cultural topics such as sports, music and film, see Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Directory/Culture for a list of groups who may be able to help. Iffy★Chat -- 13:42, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
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[edit]An editor has listed the article Boğaziçi for deletion. It would be great if someone from here(ideally from Istanbul) goes and checks if the article is notable enough for inclusion. TNM101 (chat) 15:44, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
Is Haykakan Par the same place as Aras Mountains?
[edit]Please don’t reply here but at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Haykakan Par Chidgk1 (talk) 19:03, 12 October 2024 (UTC)
Deletion discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Karima Gouit. There may be WP:GNG/WP:RS-good sources in Turkish, so if you can find some, or conclude there are none, please join the afd. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 05:46, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for the note! I found two sources from the Turkish media and shared in the AfD. TheJoyfulTentmaker (talk) 06:08, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 06:09, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
Requested move at Talk:Turkish Women's Football Super League#Requested move 8 October 2024
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There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Turkish Women's Football Super League#Requested move 8 October 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 05:53, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
It takes more than one person to make a project
[edit]Is anyone else here apart from @TheJoyfulTentmaker? If not I will mark the project inactive and stop spending time asking questions here. Chidgk1 (talk) 10:09, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
- What do you mean by "here"? I have the project on my watchlist and occasionally answer questions, but for instance I do not speak Turkish. Ymblanter (talk) 10:52, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
- I'm here yes, but I'm more interested in vital articles, or core articles of this project. Do not mark this project inactive. Bogazicili (talk) 14:41, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
Merger discussion for Yüksek Hızlı Tren
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An article that you have been involved in editing—Yüksek Hızlı Tren—has been proposed for merging with another article. If you are interested, please participate in the merger discussion. Thank you. Chidgk1 (talk) 10:10, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
Merger discussion for Yüksek Hızlı Tren
[edit]This is a different proposal to the above. I hope more people might comment. @Ymblanter: and any lurkers here - despite the title no Turkish is needed and indeed these trains are useful to many foreign tourists as well as important for helping the unity of the country in my opinion. @Bogazicili: although obvious less important than the Turkey article you are working hard on, I believe these trains will continually become more useful to the country, as roads fill up with traffic and flying internally between big Turkish cities becomes more expensive with carbon taxes. So it is important for people to properly understand them I think.
An article that you have been involved in editing—Yüksek Hızlı Tren—has been proposed for merging with another article. If you are interested, please participate in the merger discussion. Thank you. Chidgk1 (talk) 07:08, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
Requested move at Talk:Turkish Women's Football Super League#Requested move 23 October 2024
[edit]There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Turkish Women's Football Super League#Requested move 23 October 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Feeglgeef (talk) 13:37, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
Requested move at Talk:Wahhabi War#Requested move 26 November 2024
[edit]There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Wahhabi War#Requested move 26 November 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Feeglgeef (talk) 17:39, 9 December 2024 (UTC)