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Muhajir politics

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Ways to improve History of Muhajirs

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List of Muhajir families moved to draftspace

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Fatima Jinnah Award

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		for outsanding edits to Mahajir (Pakistan) :) Whisperingthefirst (talk) 17:52, 7 November 2022 (UTC)

Pucca Qila Massacre moved to draftspace

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Sources used are not reliable, some pointed to the 1988 Hyderabad massacre while some pointed to another case in 1990 where 40+ are killed, which is quite different from the information on the infobox. More work should be done as the event is very likely to be notable, but there are no sources that supported it at this moment. ✠ SunDawn ✠ (contact) 03:09, 21 November 2022 (UTC)

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Mirrors

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Thanks a lot for reviewing the Muhajir (Pakistan) article. I think [1]https://infogalactic.com is not a Wikipedia mirror, to me it appears to be a separate wiki. Furthermore the page i used as a citation ([2]https://infogalactic.com/info/Muhajir_diaspora) does not exist on Wikipedia. I am think this is a semi-reliable citation, so can you please consider giving a second glance to the above mentioned website. Muhajir (talk) 18:57, 2 January 2023 (UTC)

(talk page watcher). Infogalactic is a mirror of Wikipedia. They specify "This article's content derived from Wikipedia, the Free Encyclopedia (See original source)." under each article. As such, it's not a reliable source. Even if it were a separate wiki, it would still not be a reliable source, as we do not accept user-generated content. —Femke 🐦 (talk) 16:58, 5 January 2023 (UTC)

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Your GA nomination of Muhajir (Pakistan)

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Your submission at Articles for creation: List of Muhajir families (January 11)

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Please stop making WikiProjects

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Talk:Muhajir (Pakistan)/GA2

I gave specific examples right within that sentence - did you not see the part that said with phrases like "Muhajirs are famous for their habit of eating paan." and "Muhajirs clung to their old established habits".? These are subjective and unencyclopedic in tone. You also have statements like "Muhajirs had no culture originally," which is literally impossible; no people have no culture. By underbaked I mean that the section is underdeveloped within the article. For example, you only have two sentences on literature, and the second one makes no sense unless you have familiarity with the concept of Mushaira, which most readers will not. And now that I look, your source for the statement "The majority of Muhajirs speak Urdu as their native tongue, therefore most of Muhajir poets and writers write in Urdu" does not seem to mention Muhajirs at all, so I'm concerned that there are other issues with source-text integrity in the article as well. That's all without even getting into the writing in the article, which could use a copyedit. I suggest taking it to the Guild of Copy Editors once you're done fixing the more serious issues. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 19:29, 18 January 2023 (UTC)

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thanks alot for informing me Goofy Ahh (talk) 18:13, 30 January 2023 (UTC)

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Please read WP:NPA

The link is above. Please do not make remarks like that again. Sylvester Millner (talk) 04:28, 11 March 2023 (UTC)

Greetings @Flamealpha123, I am observing Muhajir (Pakistan) from a neutral kind of distance. I do have a following friendly advice for you.

• In any collaborative environment like Wikipedia having differences over content is natural. Those are to be sorted out as per processes mentioned @ WP:DR
• Wikipedia:Assume good faith about other editors. Personalization of dispute like this is unlikely to be appreciated on Wikipedia in long run. I will advice you, preferably take a step back and strike out that sentence.
• Go for point by point discussion. If you have given reference for text added and if some one has doubt or reservation then provide relevant quote and page number from that reference and explain why do you find important and how that reference is credible enough.
• Take care on copyright, in the articles you have to write in your own words and not copypaste.

Wish you happy Wikipedia editing

Bookku (talk) 07:01, 12 March 2023 (UTC)

Thanks alot for your advice. I have stuck out the sentence and posted my view on the whole thing. FLA-ALP-1 (talk) 07:14, 12 March 2023 (UTC)

Muhajir elite

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June 2023

You have been blocked from editing from certain pages (Muhajir (Pakistan)) for a period of 3 months for edit warring.

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Request reason:

The material was not in dispute as the user removing it did not create a topic in the talk page, he should he gained consensus on talk page for removing 40,000 bytes of information and also please look at this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Muhajir_(Pakistan)#Article_written_on_fanpoint_view another user started a conversation on the same problem (POV) and it is clear at the end of the discussion that there is consensus (3-1) that no POV is left. Also I asked this user twice to provide evidence ([4][5]) that something is wrong with my edits and both times I was ignored. I reverted the edits because the consensus was against the edits as I have mentioned above and also most of the info removed was cited with highest level of sources such as:

• the Pakistan population figure, which was cited with census results from the official government website, was replaced with some phony figure (which was not even cited) and the census source was removed
• many sources were removed in the languages part of the info box for no apparent reason, and many of those sources were books and journals
• Large parts in the population section (all sourced) were removed also for no apparent reason
• In total 87 sources were removed from this article that's another reason why I reverted the edits

To me it appears as if the user simply resored this version [6] (31st may) and this removed everything added since good and bad

FLA-ALP-1 (talk) 03:58, 3 June 2023 (UTC)

Decline reason:

See WP:NOTTHEM. You are only blocked from the article itself, you may continue to participate on the article talk page, and you may also edit the other 6.5 million plus articles. 331dot (talk) 08:47, 3 June 2023 (UTC)

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I replaced the content because there was no consensus on talk to remove it. Also can i plz be unblocked because I want to promote this article to GA and by three months my college will start again. FLA-ALP-1 (talk) 15:54, 4 June 2023 (UTC)

Decline reason:

You haven't addressed your reason for being blocked, and you can still discuss the article on the talk page. --jpgordon^{𝄢𝄆𝄐𝄇} 16:05, 4 June 2023 (UTC)

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I'm surprised about how even a direct reference to WP:ONUS in the block reason and the block notification is so clearly ignored. Also, at least when filing a second appeal after a decline, you could have taken the time to read the introduction of the policy against edit warring. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 16:08, 4 June 2023 (UTC)

There was consensus that the stuff I replaced should be kept Talk:Muhajir (Pakistan)#Article written on fanpoint view. But ok I realise now that I should have gained a second consensus. FLA-ALP-1 (talk)

...That doesn't seem to be an accurate description of the discussion. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 17:29, 4 June 2023 (UTC)

Sorry? <span style="border:1px solid; background: linear-gradient(to bottom right, #4B0082, #800080); box-shadow: 0px 5px 15px rgba(0,0,0,0.3);">[[User:Flamealpha123|'''<span style="background: linear-gradient(to right, #FF1493, #FF69B4);-webkit-background-clip: (talk) 17:32, 4 June 2023 (UTC)