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RailDriver

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Class 37/3

Carrolljon, you have done a exceedingly good job on this article, and I commend you on that. However, you missed out the Class 37/3. Do you know any info about these locos, apart from the obvious I.E they were rebogied. This is also on the class 37 talk page. Dennisman (talk) 16:49, 19 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi

Not sure you've been welcomed properly so

Welcome!

Hello, Carrolljon, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your messages on discussion pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically insert your username and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or ask your question on this page and then place {{helpme}} before the question. Again, welcome! Simply south not SS, sorry 17:38, 20 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Alstom Prima diesel locomotives

Hi! I just chanced upon this article of yours. I wish to convey my appreciation for having done a very good job. By the way, I find that there is already an article with the name Prima. I don't understand why we need to create a new article with the same name. We can merge these two articles, can't we.-Ravichandar_{My coffee shop} 03:40, 22 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I have replied on your talk page.Carrolljon (talk) 13:34, 22 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, no probs :-)-Ravichandar_{My coffee shop} 13:50, 22 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry. I know little about Sri Lanka. Nevertheless, I'll try looking around and update you in a few days.-Ravichandar_{My coffee shop} 14:21, 22 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

DYK nom

Hi. I've nominated Alstom Prima diesel locomotives, an article you worked on, for consideration to appear on the Main Page as part of Wikipedia:Did you know. You can see the hook for the article here, where you can improve it if you see fit. Thanks, Ravichandar_{My coffee shop} 04:11, 23 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Class 158

DPTAC is Disabled Persons Advisory Committee. The reason why I inserted "Repainted dado side panels and wall ends", is because I like to list all or most of the refurbishment work added. I do believe that there should be more information regarding/surrounding the refurbishment level/work carried out, especially if a person knows what work was carried out. This explains why I was very detailed and thorough on describing the refurbishment work. I do not mean to offend anyone or cause trouble, simply to provide as much useful information as possible. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Peter Skuce (talk • contribs) 15:18, 26 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I have information and photographs regarding the majority of the UK's multiple units, apart from those Scotland. My information regarding Scottish multiple units is reduced as I have never been to Scotland.

Please can we discuss how I can correctly and effectively send information to Wikipedia regarding refurbishments and current operations? Do you need my personal e-Mail address, would this help?

Do I have to wait four days before I can upload photographs into Wikipedia and how do I send them to the relevant webpage?

Please get in touch.

--Peter Skuce (talk) 14:53, 26 January 2009 (UTC)Peter Skuce[reply]

DB Class Köf III

Hi! Well done for creating this article. I was surprised to see the links suddenly worked and - bingo - there it was! I arranged for a mini-project to be set up called Rail Transport in Germany task force and would be delighted if you were interested in joining it. I have been busy translating stuff from German Wikipedia. My main focus is Bavaria and DRG, but I have done other articles too. Thanks again. Bermicourt (talk) 16:55, 26 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Cool! You may have spotted my recent article on Train categories in Europe which covers more than Germany. It needs some further tidying up, but having copied and translated the basics, I'll leave the detail to the experts! At least it's a start. BTW you can save yourself time on loco, railway station and railway company articles by copying the infoboxes from German Wikipedia. They both translate the fields automatically and do all the layouts which speeds things up massively. Also the German loco infobox is better than the English one IMHO e.g. it colour codes the railway companies and has many more fields. Bermicourt (talk) 20:46, 26 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

PS I can't see your name on the list??? It's at the bottom of the main task force page here Bermicourt (talk) 20:49, 26 January 2009

(UTC)

PPS Oh, I should have said... the German locomotive infobox is called Schienenfahrzeug. However when you copy it into English Wikipedia you need to change the title to German Railway Vehicle. It translates all the fieldnames for you. Full details here: Template:Infobox German Railway Vehicle. The Bahnhof and Unternehmen infoboxes retain the same name, but also translate the fieldnames and, in some cases, the data too!

When you're putting together an article, it's better to use a sandbox so people don't come along and try and mess with your semi-finished article or put it up for deletion. You can have several sandboxes; here's one of mine, for example: User:Bermicourt/Sandbox 2. Once the article's finished you just copy it into an article with the correct title.

For German articles I generally try and follow the same conventions as German Wiki e.g. they usually use the oldest known classification of a loco as the title, then redirect the others to it. So the DRG Class 38.10-40 is entitled Prussian P 8 because that was the original class.

If you get stuck on translating certain words, let me know; I have a number of excellent technical resources and have also built up my own glossary. That said, I'm not an expert on English terminology and especially the modern era! Bermicourt (talk) 13:24, 27 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Class 158

Richmond is the seat manufactor and Navigator is the model name.

--Peter Skuce (talk) 17:10, 26 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Photographs

Just to let you know, I have been uploading some of my photographs of trains - I've started off with the Class 158 and will upload Class 142, Class 143, Class 150 and so on. Please give me some time to upload them and advise me how to place them on the British_Rail_Class_ (142, 143, 150 etc... ) page.

--Peter Skuce (talk) 19:26, 26 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Have now uploaded the Class 158 photographs to Wikipedia Commons British Rail Class 158

--Peter Skuce (talk) 21:02, 26 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Wessex Trains Class 158 - in Aphaline livery 158751 and 158868 etc... Photographed at Bristol Temple Meads and Taunton interior shot of blue 'Wales and West' moquette trims First Great Western Class 158 158760 and 158748. Photographed at Bristol Temple Meads and Cardiff Northern Rail Class 158 Leeds

--Peter Skuce (talk) 22:51, 26 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Class 158 Photographs Uploaded

I have uploaded the following photographs (shown with URL weblink):

Wessex Trains Class 158 No. 158748 at Bristol Temple Meads < http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:158748_Bristol_Temple_Meads.JPG >
Wessex Trains refurbished Class 158 No. 158751 at Taunton < http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:158751_Taunton.JPG >
Interior of refurbished Wessex Trains Class 158 No. 158751 < http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:158751_V_INTERIOR.JPG >
Northern Rail refurbished Class 158 No. 158755 at Leeds < http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:158755_Leeds.JPG >
First Great Western refurbished Class 158 No. 158760 at Cardiff Central < http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:158760_Cardiff_Central.JPG >
Interior of First Great Western refurbished Class 158 No. 158760 < http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:158760_Interior.JPG > <-- Features the two CCTV cameras (there are two in each vehicle)
First Great Western operated, Transpenninexpress liveried Class 158 No. 158766 at Bristol Temple Meads < http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:158766_Bristol_Temple_Meads.JPG >
First Great Western operated, Transpenninexpress liveried Class 158 No. 158768 at Bristol Temple Meads < http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:158768_Bristol_Temple_Meads.JPG >
First Great Western operated, transpenninexpress liveried Class 158 No. 158768 at Cardiff Central < http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:158768_Cardiff_Central.JPG >
Interior of transpenninexpress Class 158 Standard Class DMSO vehicle < http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:158768_transpenninexpress_Standard_Class_Interior.JPG >
Northern liveried class 158 No. 158844 at Leeds < http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:158844_Leeds.JPG > <-- This train was NOT refurbished when I took the photograph, it still retained it's Central trains interior
Wessex Trains Class 158 No. 158868 at Bristol Temple Meads < http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:158868_Bristol_Temple_Meads.JPG >
Interior of Wessex Trains Class 158 with Wales and West moquette trims < http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:158868_Interior.JPG >

I can provide you with assistance on choosing the relevant photographs to use and you/we might want to feature some other photographs that are in the collection as well.

I hope that I did not upload too many.

From

Peter --Peter Skuce (talk) 00:17, 27 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I will do better - I will give you all the information that I know:

Wolverton Railcare

No as far as I know, there have been no Class 158s refurbished at Wolverton. The works mainly concentrates on refurbishing/overhauling EMUs rather than DMUs.

They have completed the following refurbishments:

Class 319/0 to Class 319/4 refurbishment for THAMESLINK (units were renumbered from 319021-319060 to 319421-319460)
Class 319/0 to Class 319/2 refurbishment for connex (units were renumbered from 319014-319020 to 319214-319220)
Class 317/2 to Class 317/6 refurbishment for WAGN Railway (units were renumbered from 317349-317372 to 317649-317672)
Class 317/1 to Class 317/7 refurbishment for stansted express
london midland Class 323 refurbishment
First Great Western Night Riviera Mark IIIA TSOs (x2), Mark IIIA RFM, Mark III SLEP and Mark IIIB BFO (17173-5)

The present on going refurbishments:

Class 319/4 and Class 319/3 refresh for First Capital Connect (mechanical overhaul, interior refresh and exterior relivery)
Class 442 for Gatwick Express

Eastleigh

(Alstom)

They have completed the following refurbishments:

Class 508/1 to Class 508/3 overhaul for silverlink metro (508301, 508302 and 508303) COMPLETED

The present on going refurbishments:

Class 143 refurbishment for First Great Western (eight DMUs, two already refurbished - 143617, followed by 143603)
Class 153 refurbishment for london midland (ten DMUs)

Ilford

(Bombardier)

Class 321/4 refurbishment for silverlink - COMPLETED
Class 321/3 refurbishment for First Great Eastern - COMPLETED
Class 165/0 refurbishment for Chiltern Railways - COMPLETED
Class 315 seat retrim for one/National Express East Anglia - COMPLETED
Refurbishment of High Speed Train Mark III Trailer vehicles for First Great Western - COMPLETED

Colchester

(Transys)

Class 170 refurbishment for Cross Country - COMPLETED

Derby

(Bombardier)

Class 315 refurbishment for one/National Express East Anglia - COMPLETED
Refurbishment of Mark IIIA TSO, RFM + TSORMB (converted from six TSO vehicles) and Mark IIIB FO refresh for one/National Express East Anglia - COMPLETED

Doncaster

(Wabtec)

They have completed the following refurbishments:

Class 465/2 to Class 465/9 refresh for Southeastern (units were renumbered from 465201-465234 to 465901-465934)
Class 317/1 to Class 317/5 refresh for one/National Express East Anglia (units were renumbered from 317301-317315 to 317501-317515)

The present on going refurbishments:

Refurbishment of High Speed Train Mark III vehicles for GNER/National Express East Coast
Refurbishment of High Speed Train Mark III vehicles for Cross Country
Class 317/1 refresh for First Capital Connect (317337-348)

Doncaster are working on Class 321 EMUs, however at present Class 321/3 for National Express East Anglia are only being overhauled and reliveired - supposed to be getting a refresh as well - this may be delayed.

--Peter Skuce (talk) 00:55, 27 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Class 158 Refurbishment at Wolverton

Only Central trains Class 158 were refurbished at Wolverton. The Wessex Trains, ARRIVA Trains Wales and First Great Western were all refurbished at Cardiff Canton depot. The ScotRail Class 158 are being refurbished at Springburn Glasgow.

--Peter Skuce (talk) 12:18, 27 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Class 158

Details regarding the First Great Western refurbishment can be found at The Railway Centre.

The interior photograph on the Class 158 page is of an unrefurbished Class 158/9 - WYPTE batch and so does not feature the Regional Railways original interior of grey background with blue speck seating moquette, as featured for the majority (well all of, barring ten Class 158/9 units) of Class 158 when they were in British Rail ownership.

--Peter Skuce (talk) 12:18, 27 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm Here

Just to let you know that I'm here if you need me, afternoons, evenings and late into the night.

You can always talk to me if you want. I need to discuss information regarding Class 150s, other trains and possibly the Valley Lines area of Arriva Trains Wales.

Do you only type information on DMUs or do you work on English EMUs as well - I ask this as I have a wealth of information available.

BTW - out of interest, can one use photographs as evidence to prove what I write is the truth and give information on refurbishments?

--Peter Skuce (talk) 23:26, 27 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

sorry I meant discuss with each other before placing my information on the relevant Wikipedia page. Also please feel free you can communicate to me if you are lonely or just want to chat.

I hope and trust that I have not caused any bother or offence - this is not my intention - I only want to share my information with you and Wikipedia browsers/viewers.

Does this mean that I'm free/Ok to edit information regarding Britain's EMUs on my own?

--Peter Skuce (talk) 23:46, 27 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

New articles

Hi. When you get a mo, could you please add your Rail transport in Germany related articles to the relevant section on the home page? It's here: Wikipedia:WikiProject Trains/Rail transport in Germany task force#What's new?. The idea is that each month the previous month's links get archived and we start afresh.

Also, have you seen the List of DB locomotives and railbuses and List of DBAG locomotives and railbuses? Useful for sorting out those confusing classes! Bermicourt (talk) 17:25, 27 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Lenkerführung

I haven't got any smart ideas about this one as my area of (relative) expertise is steam locos. On those a Lenkgestell is a pony truck or Bissel bogie i.e. a set of wheels that is 'steered' around curves by the rails. There were more complicated configurations where pairs of axles were linked by e.g. a Beugniot lever so that as the first axle was moved left, say, by the rails, the second axle was moved right. See Krauss-Helmholtz bogie. This reduced wear and tear and improved curve running. I wonder if what is meant here is a similar kind of system within each bogie or between the bogies that has the same sort of effect? A Lenkachse is a radially-sliding axle, so the term Lenk- seems to imply a system where the wheels are moved sideways, swung, pivoted or otherwise steered by the rails. Try asking a question on either the Railways of Germany forum and/or the WorldRailFans forum. Bermicourt (talk) 19:28, 27 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm going to make it simple for you - do your own fucking work.Carrolljon (talk) 12:54, 28 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Talkback

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Ravichandar_{My coffee shop} 13:05, 28 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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 I haven't got any smart ideas about this one as my area of (relative) expertise is steam locos. On those a ''Lenkgestell'' is a [[pony truck]] or [[Bissel bogie]] i.e. a set of wheels that is 'steered' around curves by the rails. There were more complicated configurations where pairs of axles were linked by e.g. a [[Beugniot lever]] so that as the first axle was moved left, say, by the rails, the second axle was moved right. See [[Krauss-Helmholtz bogie]]. This reduced wear and tear and improved curve running. I wonder if what is meant here is a similar kind of system within each bogie or between the bogies that has the same sort of effect? A ''Lenkachse'' is a radially-sliding axle, so the term ''Lenk-'' seems to imply a system where the wheels are moved sideways, swung, pivoted or otherwise steered by the rails. Try asking a question on either the [http://germanrail.8.forumer.com/viewforum.php?f=2&sid=322ecbcb1e0fe3931564a87a9555f81c Railways of Germany forum] and/or the [http://www.worldrailfans.info/forum/viewforum.php?f=2&sid=c2a74b126685a12303a631c954b4e02d WorldRailFans forum]. [[User:Bermicourt|Bermicourt]] ([[User talk:Bermicourt|talk]]) 19:28, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
-== Alstrom PRIMA ==
-Hi! There has been some issue with the references over the [[Template talk:Did you know#Alstom Prima diesel locomotives|DYK nom]]. An admin has some doubts about the referencing. Could you please clarify??-<font color="maroon" size="4" face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Ravichandar84|Ravichandar]]</font><sub><font color="aqua" face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User talk:Ravichandar84|My coffee shop]]</font></sub> 03:05, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
-:: Problems I've created??? The issue is about the referencing part, right. Chill! I don't understand why you need to get so angry over it. I didn't check out the refs before nominating. However, if the hook appears on the Main Page, you, as the creator of the article would be getting an acknowlegement on your talkpage. I am quite busy over the next week. I guess the admin has some minor issues over it. In case you could spare a few minutes, I believe, the issue could be fixed and the hook would be nominated. Anyway if you could not find time, then no probs at all.-<font color="maroon" size="4" face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Ravichandar84|Ravichandar]]</font><sub><font color="aqua" face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User talk:Ravichandar84|My coffee shop]]</font></sub> 12:52, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
 :::I'm going to make it simple for you - do your own fucking work.[[User:Carrolljon|Carrolljon]] ([[User talk:Carrolljon#top|talk]]) 12:54, 28 January 2009 (UTC)