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I'm getting the feeling that Orthostatic Intolerance should be a sub-section of the Orthostatic Hypotension article if they are not in fact the same thing / should be merged. The difference needs to be clarified. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/216.243.5.110|216.243.5.110]] ([[User talk:216.243.5.110|talk]]) 22:56, 5 August 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
I'm getting the feeling that Orthostatic Intolerance should be a sub-section of the Orthostatic Hypotension article if they are not in fact the same thing / should be merged. The difference needs to be clarified. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/216.243.5.110|216.243.5.110]] ([[User talk:216.243.5.110|talk]]) 22:56, 5 August 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

You probably have got that feeling due to that the orthostatic hypotension subgroup of OI has been extensively focused on in the article with other subgroups of OI missing or hardly impacting onto the page. Page needs balance and not just one form of OI mostly focused on.


I dont think it should be merged due to following reasons
I dont think it should be merged due to following reasons

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I'm getting the feeling that Orthostatic Intolerance should be a sub-section of the Orthostatic Hypotension article if they are not in fact the same thing / should be merged. The difference needs to be clarified. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.243.5.110 (talk) 22:56, 5 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You probably have got that feeling due to that the orthostatic hypotension subgroup of OI has been extensively focused on in the article with other subgroups of OI missing or hardly impacting onto the page. Page needs balance and not just one form of OI mostly focused on.

I dont think it should be merged due to following reasons 1/ Orthostatic intolerence isnt necessarily due to orthostatic hypotension and can be due to other disorders too eg those who have orthostatic hypertension can have orthostatic intolerance. (Ive highlighted orthostatic intolerence on the orthostatic hypertension page as OI is important to that group too thou it probably isnt as common with the orthostatic hypertension as it is with the orthostatic hypotension. OI is just as common in those who have POTS too).

2/ There is a study on pubmed which was for orthostatic intolerence, which found it wasnt related (at least in those of that study) to BP (so not to orthostatic hypotension). So it appears there can also be other causes of this disorder other then the most known one being orthostatic hypotension and someone with orthostatic intolerance dont necessarily have those BP issues.

3/ I think this page definately has room for growth, right now the focus on that page seems to be just mostly about one form of OI rather then being well rounded on it. (Ive started to work on the page to try to start to make it more balanced).

The orthostatic intolerance page does need a lot of work. Right now I arent sure if the first definition on it is even correct (glad to see that second definition there). Ive always heard orthostatic intolerance being defined along the lines of "the inability to remain standing or upright" which improves when the person lays or sits. Thou yes it can also be due to dysautonomia but is sometimes due to currently "unknown causes", that is often the case in CFS patients who are often viewed with having orthostatic intolerance but sometimes no orthostatic BP and heart issues can be found thou they often are in those individuals.

So my thoughts are leave this page due to the links of this with other disorders too (not just orthostatic hypotension) but it certainly needs to make sure there is a general consensus on that definition of OI, which my current thought is that first one put, its probably wrong. --Taniaaust1 (talk) 00:05, 7 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I just changed the OI page to make it more accurate by just changing around things and changing one word so it wasnt appearing that all OI is dysautonmonia, so I think OI now is more clearly defined (other then that change I kept the original writers wordings). Have started to add other forms of OI to it --Taniaaust1 (talk) 00:32, 7 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]