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::The material seems reliably sourced and relevant. I have no objection to its inclusion. [[User:Athenean|Athenean]] ([[User talk:Athenean|talk]]) 15:05, 18 September 2012 (UTC)
::The material seems reliably sourced and relevant. I have no objection to its inclusion. [[User:Athenean|Athenean]] ([[User talk:Athenean|talk]]) 15:05, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

:::no, it does not belong here. as noted by other editors "turks in germany" is a more appropriate page.--<small><span style="border:1px solid blue;padding:1px;background:blue;">[[User:Altetendekrabbe|<font style="color:white;background:red;font-family:sans-serif;">'''&nbsp;altetendekrabbe&nbsp;'''</font>]]</span></small> 19:05, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

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islamophobic incidents level of detail

regarding this diff and the others like it. i agree with Filippusson that this level of detail is out of place in this article. the section seems about the right length for what it describes.— alf.laylah.wa.laylah (talk) 06:21, 30 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Misleading

The fact removed here can indeed be considered misleading cause its 3 years old. We need to replace it with the Muslim population growth rate today if we want to keep the fact in a section called "Projections". The source does not say that Muslims are projected to grow at 10 times the rate of the general pop. in UK.VR talk 00:16, 11 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

exactly.-- altetendekrabbe  08:02, 11 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, I had not realised the source was so old, but see no reason to remove it until a newer source is found, just amend it to say in 2009 the pop was projected to grow at ten times the rate of everyone else. That seems more logical than removing it. Darkness Shines (talk) 08:24, 11 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Edit war

Really, five days of edit war and not a single post on the talk page? Anyway to encourage discussion I've protected both this page and Islam in Germany. In the interests of fairness, one page is protected with the poll data included and the other protected without it. – Steel 12:16, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

In my view the repeated removal of the poll is no more than a case of WP:IDONTLIKEIT.
  1. The poll is representative ("Ergebnisbericht zu einer repräsentativen Befragung von Türken in Deutschland", p. 1), not random. And it is recent, from July-August 2012, not outdated.
  2. The pollster is notable: Liljeberg Research International, is a subsidiary company of Info GmbH, the oldest public opinion research company in eastern Germany.
  3. The results of the poll are notable: its results were reported and discussed in a number of leading German press, online and TV media. A selection:
  1. Der Spiegel, one of the two leading political magazines: 1
  2. Die Welt, one of the four leading daily newspapers: 2
  3. Heise online: 3.
  4. ZDF, one of the three largest TV stations: 4.
All in all, its polling results of the largest Muslim minority in the largest EU country are clearly relevant for this article as well as Islam in Germany. Gun Powder Ma (talk) 13:34, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
The material seems reliably sourced and relevant. I have no objection to its inclusion. Athenean (talk) 15:05, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
no, it does not belong here. as noted by other editors "turks in germany" is a more appropriate page.-- altetendekrabbe  19:05, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]