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Hi, Phil, it seems you were the person who was handled to relocation of this template from {{tl|Human-centric}} to {{tl|Anthropocentric}} following a request from an IP editor to do so. I wanted to ask that this be reverted back to "Human-centric" (even though this is kind of a weird and maybe clumsy way of saying the same thing)... This is because although I completely agree that "anthropocentric" ''is'' the scientifically ''correct'' term be be using here, a sizable proportion of Wikipedia's readership just ain't gonna know what big long words like that which they have never seen before actually mean. "Human-centric", which makes me cringe a bit even to type it, strikes me as the word we really need to be using here: it isn't in any sense truly ''in''correct, it is just more "pedestrian" and I think that "anthropocentric" is overly recondite for template use. And yes, I know there is a link to the word "anthropocentric", but the odds of a casual reader not recognizing the tern & bothering to clink on that link I think you will agree are next to zero, and so the tag will be ignored. I have witnessed other editors actually type "human-centric" more than once when referring to this kind of problem, and have never yet seen anyone type "anthropocentric" on a talk page anywhere to express the sentiment summarized by this template. Could we get it turned back to "human-centric" again, even if it sounds wrong to the ears of scientists and other professionals? Our audience is not us, and we need to accommodate them as often as possible when it is reasonable to do so. I think this is probably one of those times. Thanks for considering my request! [[user:KDS4444|KDS4444]] <sup>([[user talk:KDS4444|talk]])</sup> 02:36, 2 November 2017 (UTC) |
Hi, Phil, it seems you were the person who was handled to relocation of this template from {{tl|Human-centric}} to {{tl|Anthropocentric}} following a request from an IP editor to do so. I wanted to ask that this be reverted back to "Human-centric" (even though this is kind of a weird and maybe clumsy way of saying the same thing)... This is because although I completely agree that "anthropocentric" ''is'' the scientifically ''correct'' term be be using here, a sizable proportion of Wikipedia's readership just ain't gonna know what big long words like that which they have never seen before actually mean. "Human-centric", which makes me cringe a bit even to type it, strikes me as the word we really need to be using here: it isn't in any sense truly ''in''correct, it is just more "pedestrian" and I think that "anthropocentric" is overly recondite for template use. And yes, I know there is a link to the word "anthropocentric", but the odds of a casual reader not recognizing the tern & bothering to clink on that link I think you will agree are next to zero, and so the tag will be ignored. I have witnessed other editors actually type "human-centric" more than once when referring to this kind of problem, and have never yet seen anyone type "anthropocentric" on a talk page anywhere to express the sentiment summarized by this template. Could we get it turned back to "human-centric" again, even if it sounds wrong to the ears of scientists and other professionals? Our audience is not us, and we need to accommodate them as often as possible when it is reasonable to do so. I think this is probably one of those times. Thanks for considering my request! [[user:KDS4444|KDS4444]] <sup>([[user talk:KDS4444|talk]])</sup> 02:36, 2 November 2017 (UTC) |
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:Hi {{u|KDS4444}} and thanks for the message. My suggestion would be that you post a {{template|Requested move}} at the [[Template talk:Anthropocentric]] page echoing the above rationale. There seems to have been some discussion of which term to use and other editors may have different opinions on whether such a move should take place. If no one else comments after the requisite 7 day period, give me a shout and I will do the move. Best, [[User:Philg88|<span style="color:#3a23e2; font-weight:bold; text-shadow:grey 0.1em 0.1em 0.1em;"> Philg88 </span>]]<sup>♦[[User_talk:Philg88|talk]]</sup> 06:41, 2 November 2017 (UTC) |
:Hi {{u|KDS4444}} and thanks for the message. My suggestion would be that you post a {{template|Requested move}} at the [[Template talk:Anthropocentric]] page echoing the above rationale. There seems to have been some discussion of which term to use and other editors may have different opinions on whether such a move should take place. If no one else comments after the requisite 7 day period, give me a shout and I will do the move. Best, [[User:Philg88|<span style="color:#3a23e2; font-weight:bold; text-shadow:grey 0.1em 0.1em 0.1em;"> Philg88 </span>]]<sup>♦[[User_talk:Philg88|talk]]</sup> 06:41, 2 November 2017 (UTC) |
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::I just checked on this— it looks like the request got one !vote of support not long after it was made 8 days ago, but nothing (either for or against) since. It was recently relisted, but I am not sure that even that is necessary, as there is no minimum amount of participation necessary for RM discussions and there has been no opposition at all since I first made the request. Do you think this is enough cause to perform the relocation back to Human-centric? (because it looks to me like it is, but I would be glad to know if you feel otherwise). Thanks! [[user:KDS4444|KDS4444]] <sup>([[user talk:KDS4444|talk]])</sup> 23:15, 15 November 2017 (UTC) |
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Hainanese
Hello my friend. What are guidelines on this sort of thing? Many thanks and best wishes. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 07:09, 4 August 2017 (UTC)
- Hello to you my dear. Hainanese has no standard Romanization AFAIK and it doesn't really help anyone adding this type of info so I would say WP:INDISC applies and it should be left out. Best, Philg88 ♦talk 15:15, 4 August 2017 (UTC)
- Fair enough. Thank you so much. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 18:06, 4 August 2017 (UTC)
DNB attribution
With this edit (Revision as of 08:19, 31 January 2016) you removed the inline attribution requited by the guideline WP:Plagiarism. The Earwig's Copyvio Detector detects a 91.5% likelihood that most of the text was copied from the DNB article.
Can you remember, or look in your contribution history to see, if you have altered any other article to remove the attribution? If so please fix them. -- PBS (talk) 12:59, 14 August 2017 (UTC)
- My bad, I will check and see if there are any others. Philg88 ♦talk 16:55, 14 August 2017 (UTC)
Regarding Chinese coordinates
Hi, thanks for adding coordinates in your edit (Special:Diff/615249910)! The only bad news about it is that your coordinates appear screwed up by Chinese obfuscation, namely GCJ-02(Google Map?). (Wikipedia's geodata all use WGS84.) Please consider cross-checking these coordinates on satellite imagery or with OSM. If the coordinates you got appear wrong, you can try feeding it through this gadget (or its web version). Thanks again. --Artoria2e5 contrib 05:11, 17 August 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks for the heads up, Artoria2e5. Best, Philg88 ♦talk 07:08, 17 August 2017 (UTC)
- Ditto for Former Residence of Sun Yat-Sen (Shanghai). I am doing a quick check by Wikidata/OSM matching for fun, so expect a few more edits if you have watched any of these pages… Any help would be welcome too. --Artoria2e5 contrib 13:49, 17 August 2017 (UTC)
Help reading a map
Can you tell me what this map says? I think it shows Yelu Dashi's moves from the falling Liao dynasty to Kedun to Emil to Balasaghun to Samarkand(?) and his new empire at the time of his death. It is valuable because his movements are hard to explain in prose. I hesitate to label it because I can't read it. The thing I guess is Samarkand or Qatwan has a zhong in it and 1142 instead of 1141. Thanks. Benjamin Trovato (talk) 21:33, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
- Hi Benjamin Trovato and thanks for the message. Sorry, but it's been a while since I did any Chinese stuff so I can't really help. Good luck though in cracking the problem. Best, Philg88 ♦talk 04:36, 24 August 2017 (UTC)
Martin Pring and the East India Company
Hi, I am working on the wikiproject Bristol cleanup listing and started looking at the "dubious-discuss" tag on Martin Pring. I note you added the tag and a comment on the talk page back in Sept 2016. No one has argued with your comment that it should be the English East India Company, rather than the Dutch East Indies Company. You suggest you have sources to support it - could you just change it?— Rod talk 20:02, 22 September 2017 (UTC)
Clement Delves Hill
There is a monument erected in honour of Colonel Hill in Honnavar, India. This column is 171 years old.
Pictures can be found here:
http://www.deccanherald.com/content/634291/colonel-hill-monument-hc-orders.html
http://www.kamat.com/kalranga/karavali/honavar/chill.htm
- Thanks for the info Anand.Hegde. I see you have added these sources to the article. Best, Philg88 ♦talk 05:41, 23 September 2017 (UTC).
- (p.s. Don't forget to sign your talk page posts with 4 tildes like this ~~~~. This will automatically include your signature.)
CE
Hey Phil, could you help me with some copyedits here. Thanks! Jim Carter 21:24, 27 September 2017 (UTC)
{{Anthropocentric}}?
Hi, Phil, it seems you were the person who was handled to relocation of this template from {{Human-centric}} to {{Anthropocentric}} following a request from an IP editor to do so. I wanted to ask that this be reverted back to "Human-centric" (even though this is kind of a weird and maybe clumsy way of saying the same thing)... This is because although I completely agree that "anthropocentric" is the scientifically correct term be be using here, a sizable proportion of Wikipedia's readership just ain't gonna know what big long words like that which they have never seen before actually mean. "Human-centric", which makes me cringe a bit even to type it, strikes me as the word we really need to be using here: it isn't in any sense truly incorrect, it is just more "pedestrian" and I think that "anthropocentric" is overly recondite for template use. And yes, I know there is a link to the word "anthropocentric", but the odds of a casual reader not recognizing the tern & bothering to clink on that link I think you will agree are next to zero, and so the tag will be ignored. I have witnessed other editors actually type "human-centric" more than once when referring to this kind of problem, and have never yet seen anyone type "anthropocentric" on a talk page anywhere to express the sentiment summarized by this template. Could we get it turned back to "human-centric" again, even if it sounds wrong to the ears of scientists and other professionals? Our audience is not us, and we need to accommodate them as often as possible when it is reasonable to do so. I think this is probably one of those times. Thanks for considering my request! KDS4444 (talk) 02:36, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
- Hi KDS4444 and thanks for the message. My suggestion would be that you post a {{Requested move}} at the Template talk:Anthropocentric page echoing the above rationale. There seems to have been some discussion of which term to use and other editors may have different opinions on whether such a move should take place. If no one else comments after the requisite 7 day period, give me a shout and I will do the move. Best, Philg88 ♦talk 06:41, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
- I just checked on this— it looks like the request got one !vote of support not long after it was made 8 days ago, but nothing (either for or against) since. It was recently relisted, but I am not sure that even that is necessary, as there is no minimum amount of participation necessary for RM discussions and there has been no opposition at all since I first made the request. Do you think this is enough cause to perform the relocation back to Human-centric? (because it looks to me like it is, but I would be glad to know if you feel otherwise). Thanks! KDS4444 (talk) 23:15, 15 November 2017 (UTC)
Section header at WP:RM/TR
Did you intend to remove the subsection heading that I added? It's there to make it easier to edit the section from the WP:RM page. Dicklyon (talk) 16:50, 13 November 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks for the message Dicklyon. Sorry - it wasn't deliberate. I used the "Clear all requests" button so it appears to be a side effect of that. Philg88 ♦talk 17:30, 13 November 2017 (UTC)
- I was wondering if there was some such semi-automated undoing of my attempt. Where is this button and who would know how to fix it? Dicklyon (talk) 19:43, 13 November 2017 (UTC)
- The button sits above the "Uncontroversial technical requests" section. Alas, I have no idea of the technical wizardry behind it. Philg88 ♦talk 19:54, 13 November 2017 (UTC)
- I don't see it. Perhaps it requires admin status, or some special javascript installed. I'll ask on the talk page. Dicklyon (talk) 20:19, 13 November 2017 (UTC)
- It's behind some "display only on the actual page" code in the Instructions page. Updated. --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 21:07, 13 November 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks SarekOfVulcan, mystery resolved! Philg88 ♦talk 22:46, 13 November 2017 (UTC)
- It's behind some "display only on the actual page" code in the Instructions page. Updated. --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 21:07, 13 November 2017 (UTC)
- I don't see it. Perhaps it requires admin status, or some special javascript installed. I'll ask on the talk page. Dicklyon (talk) 20:19, 13 November 2017 (UTC)
- The button sits above the "Uncontroversial technical requests" section. Alas, I have no idea of the technical wizardry behind it. Philg88 ♦talk 19:54, 13 November 2017 (UTC)
- I was wondering if there was some such semi-automated undoing of my attempt. Where is this button and who would know how to fix it? Dicklyon (talk) 19:43, 13 November 2017 (UTC)