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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by 77.99.210.174 (talk) at 11:06, 27 March 2023 (Disastrous interviews on several local radio stations in one day). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 8 December 2022

2607:FEA8:41DF:BF00:8980:523A:71C8:CFC7 (talk) 02:46, 8 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Priscilla Truss Not Nee Grasby

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Pizzaplayer219TalkContribs 17:32, 8 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Disastrous interviews on several local radio stations in one day

(I think on 29 September 2022) in the midst of the mini-budget crisis, Liz Truss decided to be interviewed by several (BBC) local radio stations. I think the Truss logic was that the various provincial hosts would consider Truss to be fighting the "London elite" on their behalf. However they all appeared to seize the chance of "15 minutes of fame" re interviewing a Prime Minister and also to represent the soaring mortgage costs of their listeners, which had been caused by the mini-budget. So they all lambasted Truss instead - so another disaster there.

They were all subsequently given radio awards - https://advanced-television.com/2023/03/24/bbc-local-radio-journalists-collect-special-award-for-their-remarkable-interviews-during-the-short-leadership-of-ex-prime-minister-liz-truss/

Grammatical Error

In the last sentence of the first paragraph in the lead section, correct the grammar. Change 'She has been Member of Parliament (MP) for South West Norfolk since 2010.' to 'She has been the Member of Parliament (MP) for South West Norfolk since 2010.'

Make it say she has been 'a' or 'the' Member of Parliament for South West Norfolk since 2010. DDMS123 (talk) 01:59, 14 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

NO: This is not necessary Billsmith60 (talk) 11:48, 14 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{Edit extended-protected}} template. I think this is a difference between UK English and US English. Please discuss if necessary. – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:10, 14 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

"So and so is 'member of parliament' for such and such" is common parlance and grammatically correct. Why modify it? Billsmith60 (talk) 17:31, 14 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 15 December 2022

Why does the lede say she stepped down when just about every reliable source describes it as her resigning? What’s the point in having it say that? I would go so far as to consider this an example of WP:WEASEL. Please change it to “resigned”. Asperthrow (talk) 05:52, 15 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Out of curiosity, is there a strong semantic difference between "stepped down" and "resigned"? I've always viewed them as equal and Merriam-Webster, for example, defines them as synonymous. ASpacemanFalls (talk) 15:57, 15 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I perceive it as a more polite way of saying she resigned. Asperthrow (talk) 19:57, 15 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

As the contributor who made that change noted, it removes any ambiguity over when she left office. Truss announced her resignation in advance of stepping down several days later. The article is good both for its chronology and accuracy, and no weasel words are used. If only 'other sources' had taken the same trouble the Wikipedia community did over this topic. Billsmith60 (talk) 14:28, 15 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Announcing her resignation is not the same as resigning. Asperthrow (talk) 19:58, 15 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Not done, as explained above Billsmith60 (talk) 14:29, 15 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

There is no difference between the two verbs: 'stepped down' is a good choice, however, because of how the leaving-of-office process was managed Billsmith60 (talk) 18:25, 15 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I was the one who changed the language to "stepped down". The reason for this was simple. Most could easily conflate the announcement of her resignation/resignation statement (which occurred on her 45th day in office) with her formal resignation on her 50th day in office. If you look at media reports from her 45th day in office, a reader could very easily incorrectly assume that that was her FINAL day in office. She did, however, last a few more days in the job (which is important to note due to her short tenure in office) before formally resigning the office to King Charles. JLo-Watson (talk) 23:27, 16 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

"Although she supported the Britain Stronger in Europe campaign for the UK to remain in the European Union, Truss supported Brexit after the outcome of the 2016 referendum"

This sentence in the lead is a tad wordy. Why not just say "Truss originally supported the campaign for remaining in the European Union in the 2016 European Union (EU) membership referendum, but later supported Brexit after the outcome of the referendum"? The leads of Boris Johnson and Rishi Sunak use similar phrasing and are more concise as a result. 2.97.212.181 (talk) 13:23, 15 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your proposed sentence has 1 more word in it than the original. Tim O'Doherty (talk) 20:28, 18 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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