Talk:2024 Democratic Party presidential primaries
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Jimmy Carter
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Does anyone have any update on Jimmy Carter's decision? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 45.45.94.82 (talk) 12:47, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
- What "decision" are you referring to? A. Randomdude0000 (talk) 17:36, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
- According to the campaign website set up for him he hasn't declared yet. I would lean towards putting him in potential candidates category rather than decision pending category though. 31.52.117.63 (talk) 18:25, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
Bernie Sanders endorses Biden?
Given his endorsement of President Biden due to source noting Biden moved leftward as President compared to his time as a Senator; does this suggest that Bernie Sanders is not running (and should be moved to the "Declined to be candidates" section) or leave him in the "Potential candidates" section pending whether Biden officially announces his candidacy or not? WAVY 10 Fan (talk) 21:12, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
I would wait until he formally declines to run for President ~ HistorianL (talk) 00:07, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
- Does this count as another source to put Bernie back in the potential candidates section? (https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2023/03/will-bernie-sanders-run-for-reelection-in-2024.html/) Thanks!! EPBeatles (talk) 18:20, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
- I think relevant here as well is whether reliable sources consider the endorsement to mean that Sanders isn't running Przemysl15 (talk) 06:45, 4 April 2023 (UTC)
- As long as Biden has not formally declared and - more importantly - Bernie has not formally ruled it out - I see no reason why he should be excluded as a potential candidate, or should be treated in any other way than other candidates. The text in the potential candidate section literally says: "Most of these candidates are viewed as potential replacements if President Biden does not seek re-election, while some are viewed as potential primary challenges even if he does." So Bernie fits exactly in this category. I added him again accordingly with additional sources.2001:1C02:280A:5600:DD91:A307:BBDF:DC14 (talk) 18:53, 24 April 2023 (UTC)
- I think relevant here as well is whether reliable sources consider the endorsement to mean that Sanders isn't running Przemysl15 (talk) 06:45, 4 April 2023 (UTC)
Marianne Williamson
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Calling her a major candidate is a stretch in my opinion TRJ2008 (talk) 19:46, 4 March 2023 (UTC)
- I agree. The fact that she isn't named in a single poll taken, nor is really noteworthy. I think that knocks her off as a major candidate. Tipsyfishing (talk) 06:32, 5 March 2023 (UTC)
Her announcement got coverage in several reliable sources. I think she’s fine as is. Esolo5002 (talk) 07:52, 5 March 2023 (UTC)
- She has not been included in virtually any polls, she's never held significant office, and her announcement didn't even get 1 million views on Twitter. I don't think she's anywhere close to "major" TRJ2008 (talk) 15:10, 5 March 2023 (UTC)
- I agree with this. I don't see her really as any more serious then Segal. I don't recall the last time that we had someone who got media coverage, but is not included in any polling. If I recall, polling was the general decider if a candidate was deemed "major", assuming nothing else applied. Tipsyfishing (talk) 16:34, 5 March 2023 (UTC)
- The media coverage rule was introduced during the 2020 Democratic primaries, because prior to the first debate both Williamson and Andrew Yang were clearly being treated as major candidates by the media but a dearth of polling meant that they had not reached the 5-poll criteria. Devonian Wombat (talk) 03:32, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
- I agree with this. I don't see her really as any more serious then Segal. I don't recall the last time that we had someone who got media coverage, but is not included in any polling. If I recall, polling was the general decider if a candidate was deemed "major", assuming nothing else applied. Tipsyfishing (talk) 16:34, 5 March 2023 (UTC)
I think that having run in 2020 qualifies her as a major candidate. Mtobar2002 (talk) 22:58, 5 March 2023 (UTC)
Williamson is very obviously a major candidate, she meets the criteria of having received substantial media coverage. You don't see Jerome Segal's run getting tons of coverage in international media outlets. Devonian Wombat (talk) 21:27, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
Williamson has clearly gotten the substantial media coverage needed to be listed as a major candidate. TulsaPoliticsFan (talk) 03:57, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
I agree with Devonian Wombat and TulsaPoliticsFan that she has gotten more than enough national/international coverage from reputable media outlets to qualify as a major candidate. A. Randomdude0000 (talk) 18:06, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
I think there's something to say in favour of an additional criteria for selecting 'major' candidates. Namely, anyone who ran (for some serious time) in the previous (2020) primary, i.e. participated in some of those debates. Using this criteria, Williamson automatically qualifies, as many probably instinctively recognise. Just a thought.2001:1C02:280A:5600:DD91:A307:BBDF:DC14 (talk) 18:56, 24 April 2023 (UTC)
Marianne Williamson graph color
Her color is pretty close to the gray color used for others/undecided, perhaps a teal color would be best? 2601:249:8E00:420:ECE5:2C89:626D:50C3 (talk) 21:23, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
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Robert F. Kennedy Jr. formed an exploratory committee and already has a website (https://www.teamkennedy.com/) You can read on the website that he formed an exploratory committee (Paid for by RFK Jr. Inc. Exploratory Committee). 2001:1C00:A16:7F00:0:0:0:FC31 (talk) 14:07, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
- https://news.yahoo.com/anti-vaccine-activist-rfk-jr-211213096.html 98.22.34.247 (talk) 22:24, 5 April 2023 (UTC)
Biden in declared section?
President Biden has yet to announce a run for president in 2024 yet or file with the FEC, so I'm not sure why he is being put in the declared section? Today, Biden said in a NBC Today interview with Al Roker that he plans to run, but he hasn't confirmed that he will run yet. President Biden should go back to the decision pending section until we get a filing with the FEC or an official announcement from him. Alexjjj (talk) 19:08, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
- Maybe we should have a plans to run section. Biden campaign sources say the decision is made but he isn't ready to announce yet. 79.78.91.188 (talk) 17:59, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
- Biden says he has made the decision and will announce run for re-election soon. We need an announcement pending section. [1]https://www.reuters.com/world/us/biden-says-he-will-run-re-election-2024-2023-04-14/ 79.78.91.188 (talk) 00:42, 15 April 2023 (UTC)
- Once there is a set date, then we can add him to the Announcement pending section. David O. Johnson (talk) 02:01, 15 April 2023 (UTC)
- Biden says he has made the decision and will announce run for re-election soon. We need an announcement pending section. [1]https://www.reuters.com/world/us/biden-says-he-will-run-re-election-2024-2023-04-14/ 79.78.91.188 (talk) 00:42, 15 April 2023 (UTC)
Robert F. Kennedy Jr. major candidate?
I'm not sure that RFK JR. should be listed as a major candidate. Unlike Williamson, he hasn't gotten serious coverage in reliable sources. Esolo5002 (talk) 22:55, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
- He's appeared in 6 polls on FiveThirtyEight including reaching 10% in a morning consult poll. He appears to meet the polling criteria used during the last Democratic primary. TulsaPoliticsFan (talk) 00:24, 15 April 2023 (UTC)
- His announcement was covered by many, many reliable sources, including; ABC, BBC, Bloomberg, CNN, Daily Telegraph, deutsche Welle, Guardian, The Hill, NBC, New York Times, Politico, Reuters, Vanity Fair, Wall street Journal and Washington Post. 79.78.91.188 (talk) 00:31, 15 April 2023 (UTC)
Candidate colors/gradients
similar to my GOP proposal on Talk:2024 Republican Party presidential primaries I'm proposing below the following color gradients be used for the candidates in the 2024 Democratic Presidential Primary, this will allow us to have a uniform way of creating county maps and distinguishing candidates. below is my proposal but I welcome all suggestions Matthew McMullin (talk)
Update: changed Kennedy color from orange to green
User:CaptMarsMan I do have to agree with you that Green fits better for kennedy than orange, I've updated the gradient to reflect that
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US map of states
Like its Republican counter-part. We should have a map of the United States, just below the candidates box. GoodDay (talk) 03:41, 24 April 2023 (UTC)
Is there much point in the potential/declined candidates sections existing?
They seem to be pretty arbitrary speculation, largely about the hypothetical situation of Biden pulling out/ I'm not sure if the existence of those sections is useful or adequately reflects the nature of the race. Chessrat (talk, contributions) 20:59, 24 April 2023 (UTC)
Image for Kennedy
Like what was done for the 2024 Republican primary article, this article could use a new image for Kennedy, I suggest this one from this AP article.
HurricaneKappa (talk) 23:03, 24 April 2023 (UTC)
- It would look a bit odd if all the candidates on this page and the 2024 Republican primary article have professional looking airbrushed photos (or portraits), but Kennedy has a normal one.
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