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I combined my archives and added outdated content that was on this page to them. Mugaliens 13:07, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
AMA Request
Hello Mugaliens,
I've accepted your case. I'm looking over the editing history of the associated articles, and should be able to get back to you with some recommendations tomorrow or the day after. In the meantime, please set up an email account and I will be able to talk with you privately. Best,--Amerique dialectics 01:10, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks! I'll look into how to do that. I may ask for help, shortly. Mugaliens 20:52, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
- I've confirmed my e-mail address with Wikipedia and enabled Wiki to share it with others. I'll turn that feature off when I hear from you. If for some you reason you can't read it, please let me know and I'll figure out another way. - Mugs 21:02, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
Overuse of Citation Needed stickers
I've noticed a prolific overuse of "citation needed" remarks akin to marking "on a normal sunny day, the sky is blue" or "regular coffee without cream or sugar appears black" as "citation needed." Most the points where some prolific citationist has posted these remarks are well-known, well-established, and well-documented facts, understood by nearly all adults. They're not fanciful claims, or uncharted personal opinions, and since I've made only one correction to this article, which has not be "citation needed," I feel free to contradict the over-prolific use of whoever has posted them here. Recommendation: Before you slap a "citation needed," please take the 60 seconds to Google the information on your own to ensure that it's warranted, as most "citation needed" marks are NOT warranted.
Google Hits
Google is a tremendous resource, but requires a few simple skills and key points of consideration to be effective:
1. You must have both a wide and deep range of knowledge, at least in the area in which you're searching. Otherwise, you'll be unable to separate fact from fad, or well-sounding prose from truth. One way to alleviate this probem for seaches into areas in which you're not an expert is to conduct many searches from well-known and reliable websites, such as Wikipedia, The Mayo Clinic, etc., comparing content and the validity of it's source, to ferret out the good content while revealing the bad.
2. Don't limit your searches to a single term, such as "War." Rather, narrow down your searches with several qualifiers, such as: "gulf war" and "computer war" and "Blu-82." There's a "sweet spot" in searching, however, as trying to narrow down your search too much will produce too few responses, and more often than not, they're a bit off target. Thus, it's best to limit your searches to between two and four or five terms. I think three is the sweet spot, with four being a secondary if three terms turns up too many (thousands) of Google hits.
3. Google hits are NO measure whatsoever of the accuracy or validity of any particular topic and can NOT be used as a metric for validating or devaluing any topic or content. Those who state, "that's not relevant - only 22,000 Google hits" haven't the slightest clue as to what Google is, how it's to be used, and what it represents. Furthermore, those who make such claims merely underscore the fact that they really don't understand much, that they jump to conclusions, seem to find "trends" in a small number of facts, and are generally incapable of looking at anything objectively, without introducing a large amount of distorting personal prejudice. The only thing Google hits measure is the number of websites out there which mention your search terms, and to a lesser extent, the general public interest in your topic. For example, there are 39.9 Million Google hits for UFO, yet the world has yet to see any credible evidence. Meanwhile, the term "scanning tunneling electron microscope," an instrument which can reveal individual atoms in three dimensional images, is in wide use today in many areas of advanced research, and mentioned in hundreds of magazines, periodicals, and newspapers over the last 20 years. Yet it yields just 544 Google hits, more than 73,000 times less than the number of Google hits for "UFO." Rain, on the other hand, yield 171 Million Google hits, but who cares? It's condensed water vapor that's falling out of the sky. Whoopee.
In conclusion, use Google to find out information - but that will only happen if you use it well. Don't use Google to measure the validity of a Wiki article or subsection. That's simply a totally ignorant misapplication of the nature of Google.
Rogue Admins
Yes, they do exist, and I've been in their sights more than once.
Definition: An admin who, for whatever reason, is unable or unwilling to discern the difference between valid and invalid content, or who unnecessarily picks on or attacks any user. Possible resons include gross personal prejudice; the desire to "make the world right" rather than accepting it the way it is; an evil intent to inflict as much discomfort/pain on users that, for whatever reason, they don't like; a history of pure contentiousness.
There are five ways of dealing with rogue admins:
1. Ignore them. Unfortunately, this approach quite often results in them deleting your valid content. If this is acceptable to you, then it's by far the easiest way to deal with them, simply offerring them no resistance. They'll soon tire of punching thin air and seek out more satisfying ways of bullying others.
2. Contact them. At the very least, this will ferret out the true rogues from honorable admins who simply come across as roguish. Even if the admin is a true rogue, if they get enough complaints directly from others, they may begin to rethink their approach. Regardless, it's a required first step on most BBS and forums, including Wiki.
3. Contact another, trusted, admin or two, asking them, "I'm curious - am I way off target, here, or am I doing the right thing?" Most admins will tell you like it is, without regard as to whether or not you're the admin or the user. If you can get two or three second opinions like this, all the better. You might not be able to use their feedback directly with the rogue admin, but you can use their feedback for the following two steps:
4. Request for Mediation. There are quite a few mediators out there who will work hard to help two parties, including those between an admin and a user, resolve disputes.
5. Request for Arbitration. This is a requisite step in resolving disputes at Wikipedia, and invites everyone associated with the disputed content to make comments, cite their own and other's previous posts. It's usually visited by admins who have no inherent interest in the material, so they're capable of taking an objective look at the issue and render fairly accurate recommendations.
What not to do:
1. Blast them on either their talk page, your talk page, or on the talk page of the article in dispute. A far better approach is to objectively and rationally discuss the information using the approach mentioned above.
2. Take them to task. They're an admin, while you're not. They win. It's far better to contact them, respectfully, request mediation, and request arbitration.
3. Bad mouth them behind their back. That's a Wiki-no-non, and Admins have the ability to monitor everything a particular user posts. If they're on your case, they'll see it.
4. Engage in a revert war. This is merely stooping to their level. Take the high ground and follow the steps outlined above.
The good news is that if you take the higher ground, the rest of the Wiki community will soon come to see them for who they are, and you'll gain the community's respect while the rogue admin will gain their ire. If you stoop to the rogue admin's level, however, you'll both gain the community's ire.
Good luck!
- Mugs 14:02, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
wait
I am going to write on your behalf to one person. Stay tuned.VK35 00:42, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
Afd Notice - second time around for Unsolved problems in chemistry
Unfortunately this article has again be nominated for deletion Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Unsolved problems in chemistry. I know you tried to save it the first time around. Could you please help again. --Heliumballoon 17:33, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
Unblock Request
Mugaliens (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
that shred is] WAY beneath my minimum word limit. Etc. So forth. Besides - I haven't even been around since I left on an extended business trip at the end of the first week in May. Ahem - Will some objective admin please ensure JzD receives any appropriate level of censure? Thanks. And would the same objective admin please unblock my wrongly blocked account? Also, much thanks. And would it be too much to ask to put a JzD monitor on it so that any further efforts on his part receive some peer review before becoming final? Again, thank you! (if the latter is even possible)
Decline reason:
Your claim that you have made no contributions in more than half a year is shown to be false by looking at your contribution log. You last made contributions in May. Given this, the rest of your claims are dubious and so I am declining your unblock. — Yamla 17:11, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
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Second Unblock Request (Yamla seriously misconstrued my original comment - read on for details, please)
Mugaliens (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
Unblock - collateral blocking has taken place. Yamla, I made no such statement as you claie. Please take the time to carefully re-read my original post (which seems to have been edited in the final version you posted, above). In the original, I stated that I'd made no contributions along the lines of men in skirts (the reason JzG claimed for his blocking). I further stated that the contributions I made in the six months up to 6 May 07 were along the lines of capacitors, JPADS, Standard Day, etc. Not men in skirts. I left on a business trip 7 May (Iraq) and where I was working we didn't even have edit access to Wiki (except about twice while away from our normal work center). Got back a week ago. I'm sure you can do the math and match it up with my actual contribution history. Finally, JzG's link to his supposed reason is to another user's page (and I respect other user's pages, meaning that's their territory, and I just don't go there). So, your "given this" justification for denying my block is groundless, and the rest of my claims aren't dubious at all. Please unblock. Thanks.
Decline reason:
After checking into the background here a bit more thoroughly, I have to agree with JzG that there are serious concerns about the abuse of multiple accounts here, and there has been a great deal of disruptive behavior from you in the past, and evidence of a connection between these various accounts is definitely good enough for me. That seems to have tapered off recently, but only from this account. So, no unblock. Mangojuicetalk 19:14, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
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- I've asked JzG to reconsider. Mangojuicetalk 05:00, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
Thank you, Mangojuice. 15:42, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
Ok, Folks - It's been three months, and JzG is retired, so he's not the guy to ask to reconsider. I'll stay away from the fashion sections. I would like to continue with my technical contributions. Will someone PLEASE unblock me? Thank you. - Mugs 20:03, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
{{Unblock - I repeat, collateral blocking has taken place. Please reconsider. I know you have to go by some objective measure, but I assure you the claims I made above were on target, not "dubious." I have, and will continue to stay away from the apparently highly controversial fashion sections and stick to the technical sections, of which I've 25 years of hands-on experience in various fields have a lot to offer, and would like to help Wiki continue to fill in some gaps. Mangojuicetalk are you there? I really do not believe that it was fair for JzG to slap on an indefinate block then retire. That's not, as we say, playing pool on a level table. Is there someone there who would please reconsider and lift the ban? I've been very patient for the last three months, but I think it's time for another look. Thank you in advance. - Mugs 20:16, 13 October 2007 (UTC)}}
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- I've left a message with the blocking admin. –xeno (talk) 14:25, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
- I'm inclined towards an unblock. Have you heard back from JzG yet? (He's not retired, never has been. His "retired" template has the RE crossed out. He's simply tired). Either way, it's been over a year (year and a half?) Can't imagine why a {{second chance}} would be unreasonable. Mugaliens, you've been patient, please be patient for another few hours while this sorts out. Cheers, Keeper ǀ 76 18:02, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
- Hi, Xeno. I think he switch to just Guy. Thanks. It's been a year. I can wait a little longer. 23:42, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
- I'm not familiar with the case whatsoever, so since the blocking admin is not willing to unblock, I'm going to leave it up to someone else to review the unblock template. –xeno (talk) 22:38, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
- Ok. 23:43, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
- Comment. (edit conflict) Don't unblock, please. Leave it to JzG."Whatever disagreements I had with jzg and his other online name were primarily with him." Uh... and with me. And Bunchofgrapes, and Sandstein, and a few others..."[1] Just thought I'd mention it. I'll leave the reviewing to JzG, who is still active, even though it says "retired" on his page. See [2].
- Mugaliens was a very exhausting user (and, if I understand Yamla correctly, still is, via socks). He wore me out, but JzG showed exemplary patience. I note from Mugaliens' posts above that he seems unaware of having done anything wrong on Wikipedia; he's still, as ever, blaming. everybody but himself. I reckon this is up to JzG. P. S., what does "collateral blocking" mean? (Blocking via collateral damage?) Bishonen | talk 18:05, 30 July 2008 (UTC).
- Sockpuppet using agenda account. No thanks. Guy (Help!) 22:32, 30 July 2008 (UTC)